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@oromagi
Maybe Trump cut anonymous TikTokker's taxes but he didn't cut yours and he didn't cut mine- he raised our taxes and gave it to rich celebrities he most admires.
I don't pay federal taxes to be honest. I always put tax exempt. It hasn't bit me in the ass yet, but I assume it will at some point.
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Gish gallop, even focusing on a rebuttal on one would not be sufficient against a gish gallop, but I will point out a retarded one.
He has pursued policies that disproportionately benefit the wealthy and powerful.
That wouldn't make him an authoritarian, but think about the absurdity for a moment.
The rich and powerful media conspired to destroy him. Big tech conspired to destroy him, practically every billionaire on the planet has made him enemy number one, including Soros, warren Buffet, Jeff Bezos and the owner of the las Angela's Clippers
Yeah it really sounds like the wealthy are his friends
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@oromagi
If that's what you call Satanism, then it is pretty easy to say that your mental illness is the source of your irratonal belief.
Establishing the goals of the Georgia Guidestones would require a one world government as predicted in revelations and who does revelations call the head of that one world government?
We can go over the Guidestones a bit but dropping the flowery rhetoric to show what it means.
1. Requires genocide
2. Eugenics
3. Yeah and lose valuable cultural mythos and practices from indigenous people who pass on their traditions orally and whose languages are currently in jeopardy already
6. NWO
8. Incorrect the government should be solely concerned with individual rights, while citizens should prioritize social responsibility
Same reason people start saying "Make America Great Again" in 2016: it was a popular Presidential campaign slogan. Not a conspiracy.
I am talking about separate organizations using the slogan simultaneously not Biden supporters. I mean all at the same time just using it . I think the WHO started randomly saying it at the same exact time also.
What is the relationship between a global conspiraccy that controls the world and Satanism or Hollywood. Are you now claiming that George W Bush and Paul Giamatti worship Satan?
It's my impression they secretly worship an owl. I am claiming they have a secret religion that they share though, and that I recognize quite a bit of the esoteric symbolism, many bits which are shared with satanism and luciferianism.
Not a conspiracy. Once one company makes a decision likely to garner bad publicity, like-minded companies tend to follow quickly behind hoping the front-runner will take the brunt.
That's a good point actually. I concede.
Such organizations are an essential structural element of democracies- the machines by which consensus is acheived
This is what I have a problem with. I prefer a world of independent thinkers not organizations that are trying to manufacture consensus through social engineering or propaganda.
I would like to see a well informed public who only considers voting on policy issues they have personally spent a considerable amount of time studying. It's why I don't bitch about one issue voters. They mostly spend a ton of time studying one specific thing and become experts on it, meaning they are voting correctly in at least one regard.
Such dynamics likely explain the relationship between Ivy League schools and power without the need for any secrets or conspiracy and Skull & Bones is just as easily explained as a slice of that dynamic put under a microscope unnecessarily.
That sounds very unfair and anti meritocric.
Wow you have log books for a secret society?Keeping records is not very wise practice for a secret society
I believe they keep secret minutes. Interviews with ex girlfriends by some researchers seem to document this and there are stories of participants getting butt naked being lowered into pits and telling each other their darkest secrets. A scary thing for future world leaders to have an organization with blackmail material on them.
It's a closed society but it doesn't mean there isn't any leaks, that's how we understand as much as we do about them.
It's my understanding also that the Bones movie did a pretty good job of representing the secret society well. So watching that might give you some insight
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@SkepticalOne
I don't think I can DM people who blocked me
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@zedvictor4
Genocide and jews are concepts relative to electro-chemical reactions in the brain. Thinking.
With variable output relative to electro-chemical reactions in the brain. Thoughts.
Etc. Etc.
Amazing but true. Just a thought.
Or Just the way things are. Just another thought
You only think that genocide of Jews is okay.
I only think that the Holocaust is wrong.
Whereas wrong and OK are just thoughts relative to thinking, relative to the transfer of data from currently existent and previous data sources.
All of which are internal simulations of an assumed external reality. Existence and reality are internal concepts. Externality is also an internal concept relative to acquired data. Though it would be fair to say, that acquirable data does give some credibility to the concept of an external reality.
Hence.....Universally speaking, I doubt that anything else gives a shit about the human concept of murdering jews. Just a though. Internally projected and then transferred and displayed as an appreciable narrative.
Whether or not you appreciate this appreciable narrative will be relative to any subsequent internal reactions which might occur in association with data previously acquired and stored in your own databases.
And into day 2 of our annual journey around the SUN STAR GOD, who knows what might be encountered on the other side.
Maybe the souls of Jews
Or maybe not.
You choose.
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@oromagi
Classic wide-eyed conspiracy nut: "Dude! there's so many secret connections that I don't even have time to explain just one!"
No, you wouldn't get it. Seriously they date their log books a certain way for example and year zero is when the Bavarian illuminati was. Founded. A lot of the symbolism and rituals are very similar etc.
Dude! I don't have details! I don't know names and shit. I just know for certain that secret societies are doing secret shit and I'm determined to fuck things up for every American for reasons I can't jutify or even explain!
Other than the fact these people publish names of their members many times,. They are secret societies. 3 presidenta have been skull and bones member. Many other powerful people have been as well. This is a very small club with a hidden agenda.
I am not fucking things up for Americans. You can look at policies and see what their intentions are. Let's just imagine for a second that you are correct and organizations such as the Fabian society, skills and bones and the bilderburg don't exist. Then we can still see some sort of evil cooperation.
For example when people get deplatformed it isn't a slow trickle like is natural, but it looks like all organizations are working together in unison. The same with how news stories come out and suddenly at the beginning of 2020 you see 50 organizations in unison pick up the phrase "build back better" like some sort of hive mind.
I used to be a statanist, so I can pick up the imagery faster than you can but the following have obvious satanic imagery
1. 2001 a space Odyssey, particularly the beginning with the monkeys
2. Lucy
If you include gnostic imagery to be satanic then
3. The matrix
4. Free guy
5. Eyes wide shut
6. Mother
7. Truman show
8 dark City
Honestly there is too many to mention. These people have infiltrated media, politics and business though and if you look at my last round with RM in a recent debate, I lay out why they are pushing certain policies, which is consistent with the goals they laid out on the Georgia Guidestones.
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@oromagi
And yet you told your lie. It is not as if there is any similarity between the two group's politics, or motivations, or maturity level.
I don't have time to explain all the connections to you. It is my belief that the Bavarian illuminati went underground and survived as the skull and bones society, and for a brief period also has a lot of influence on free masonry.
In other words, you concede yet another pointless lie.
No, I am explaining that the pilpul on whether the current secret societies running everything are named the illuminati is a red herring.
Fine to say but your not claiming that any of those people are some secret tribe conspiring against you in continuity.
Yeah, well those tribes exist. Ever heard of the Fabian society? Did you ever hear about when the financiers secretly met on Jekyll island to screw over America and successfully did so? These groups exist
Believe me, it shows. SInce that is a pretty basic requirement for US edcuation, I'll assume you were home schooled or educated outside of this county.
As I have explained hundreds of times. I had to drop out at 16 after being failed the prior year anyway because I was emancipated and won custody of my younger siblings after being placed in abusive foster homes.
I know a lot of the things I learned about in school was bullshit anyway, and Ii learned more by checking books out from the library. At that time it was astronomy. I also recall my social studies education having a map of the USSR on the curriculum, long after it's fall, but civil studies wasn't a thing.
What part of civil studies covered which political philosophy was correct?
the DNC explicitly supports the Second Ammendment but argues that there should be gun liscenses with similar hoops and fees and checks as a driver's liscence.
Loom through the debate portion of the website. Are there more Democrats calling for a complete ban on guns in that section, or are they asking for merely a couple more restrictions?
Let's assume they are legitimately claiming to be pro 2nd amendment but just want restrictions on guns. I think me and you both know where continued restrictions occur?
Why hasn't a single Democrat listed the restrictions they want and then maybe suggest passing a bill that no new gun laws will ever be passed after that, to prove it is not just them trying to boil a frog?
Then in all fairness you should consider yourself too ignorant to hold an opinion, right? Let's agree you lack the basic information to hold an opinion on most subjects.
I would agree that I am too ignorant to strongly hold an opinion LOL, but weak opinions that Ii always doubt are impossible to avoid. For example I don't even know if I am talking to a conscious entity at the moment. Solipsism could be true. It's one of the things my therapist seemed concerned about. Me having no strong principles because I doubt everything about everything.
Trust me, when republicans really were in control, I hated them as well, but they have been losing since George Bush.
Again- totally paranoid bullshit. You live in a dark closet and waste your life imagining monsters constructed from the vague noises you hear from the other side.
I can show you news article after news article about conservatives being cancelled for stupid shit. You can freely share your opinions in public. I don't have freedom, I am not allowed to.
Look at Dennis Miller. He was canceled because he stated that a black quarterback was overrated because the media was racist. That's not even a conservative opinions. Shit the guy was overrated by the media and it was because of the media's racism, but he was canceled.
There was an attempt to cancel Robert Downey Jr. Because he stated that he was a republican one time like 15 years ago.
Tim Allen cannot get movie because of his political persuasion.
There was a canvasser for a republican in Florida recently attacked for being a conservative. We have actors trying to cancel conservatives as a whole by pretending like he was attacked by them and he has supporters who believe him still.
Just after the 2016 election, footage was coming out of antifa attacking elderly white trump supporters at protests.
That girl that was on DDO, I think her name was Rosalina or something she ran for president with me. She was at a Maga event and was attacked by Democrats. She was on the front page of some newspapers showing a milkshake being hurled at her.
If I revealed my political opinions in person I would be physically attacked by Democrats and then I would lose my job. I know this is true because we have lots of examples of it happening.
BTW, if a liberal is against economic interventionism, he would technically be for Laissez-faire capitalism, assuming he was pro 2nd amendment and pro not murdering unborn babies. What exactly would make him a liberal?
How could that type of liberal even win an election?
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The skull and bones society has it's roots in the Bavarian illuminati.Totally false conspiracy theory
How would you know? It isn't exactly an open society? However regardless of whether the current illuminati is connected with the Bavarian illuminati is of no importance. We have over 100 groups claiming to be Rosicrucians, we don't claim Rosicrucianism died merely because none of them are the original group and are only loosely connected at best.
Al Gore went to Harvard, you incompetant boob
I guess that explains why he wasn't allowed to be president.
You get an F- in Americans civics. Please leave this country and make way for immigrants who earned their place by studying American civics
They didn't offer civics in any school I attended. The most I was told is that the government is of by and for the people, but if that were the case there would be no such thing as political dynasties and you would not have this revolving door between regulators and big business where one year a person works at Pfizer the next the FDA and visa versa.
1. Economic interventionism2. Banning of guns3. Eugenics through abortion and euthanasiaAnother fucked up lie.
I had no ideal that Democrats were anti-abortion, opposed to gun restrictions and for deregulation. Maybe I was wrong about them
A year later, you are in full witchhunt mode because Tucker told a lie and all the right-wing believed that lie was true without any interest in the facts and repeated that lie over and over and when the official truth came out, the right wing didn't even bother check in. Your need to believe you are under attack by the left was already established and no amount of fact-checking or telling truth was going to change your phony gay panic.
No, I just seen some random articles pop up on my feed. I don't watch the news. When I do it tends to be fake news (sensationalism, sound bites and covering topics in a very cosmetic way instead of going in depth) . You combine this with the fact that reporters tend to go into things with presuppositions that are entirely wrong and assume certain world views as opposed to being completely unbiased. News is bad mmkay. If I could find a perfect news source that just states dry facts and doesn't cherry pick topics to fit an agenda or narrative, I'd be very happy.
I never heard about the case you mentioned but you did point out the problematic law when talking about that case, so thanks for pointing out the problematic law. I personally have heard teachers calling into radio shows saying they have students they keep a bag in class for so they can change into their girl clothes at school and that radio call in was what I was thinking of.
Your need to believe you are under attack by the left
It's actually true at work you can state all kind of ignorant shit, if I were to mention to a coworker that I believe in a small government restrained by the constitution, I would be fired for racism.
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@TheUnderdog
This is going to lead to abortionists not performing abortions anymore, so it would lead to females doing their own abortions. Then you’re going to have to punish the woman. I hope you have the mental capacity to relieze that.
I don't believe so, but if they did do their own abortions. I think there punishment will be what normally happens to idiots that start cutting into their own body.
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@Greyparrot
It really is and these people are very transparent about their intellectual dishonest. For example
1. We believe in bodily autonomy so women should be able to murder their babies.
Not even lying about the above premise, this is what is brought up in most debates. Not that they are claiming the baby is not a person but that it doesn't matter because of bodily autonomy. And then.....
2. We believe if you aren't vaccinated you should be punished by laws preventing you from participating in society.
Immediately their supposed premises is dropped. Many such cases. Look at the following.
1. Men and women are equal every single way and gender differences are strictly a social construct.
2. Trannies are women on the inside and should be treated like a woman and saying gender is a social construct and they can just start acting like men is bigoted.
Their ideologies aren't at all consistent, the reason being and you should look up The Jolly Heretic if he is still on YouTube because he elaborates on this better. They are liberals because they feel it advantages them in some socially way, and the genuinely think conservatives are stupid people for valuing honestly over games for social dominance.
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This idiot legit said that child service workers are unpaid volunteers in all red states then blocked me when I pointed out how stupid that is.
If you look at every post he makes, it is a strawman position because he knows his ideals are inferior to conservatives and he has refused to engage in a single debate for that very same reason
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@oromagi
The Illuminati is silly little anti-semetic conspircacy theory. You have done an excellent job of demonstrating why your deranged opinion is entirely unworthy of respect. Please seek medical attention for your personal, dangerous mental health problems
Yep, call it antisemitic and you can easily sweep it under the rug. The skull and bones society has it's roots in the Bavarian illuminati. So it still exists and George Bush as well as Al Gore are both in the skull and bones society and part of that illuminati.
Americans don't follow one man against the people, ever.
He is the voice of the people. He's a populist LOLl
Evil is a supernatural claim. Your claim lacks any rational basis
You claim to be a Christian. You know evil exists. Jeffrey Dahmer is not a good person, nor is near 100% of politicians who work together secretly against the public
Flat out ignorant lie. Starvation is so rare in America that it is generally not tracked as a natural cause of death. An average of 100 Americans starve to death each year
Americans are fat, it's going to take a few years of starving them to kill them off. I say they start dropping dead in 2025 once they work through their fat stores.
You're saying that the Jan 6th attackers knew the future? Another supernatural claims far away from the way reasonable men think.
I am pretty sure cause and effect is a thing and you can judge by a party's platform where the country is headed and having the same platform as Hitler
1. Economic interventionism
2. Banning of guns
3. Eugenics through abortion and euthanasia
It's pretty obvious where things are headed. They were literally trying to stop people with the exact same platform as Hitler. We even see antisemitism becoming very rampant in many leftist circles
Pure mentally-ill fanstasy. I assume you have mixed up your sexual fantasies with reality.
Would you like to debate whether or not there are some teachers who assist their students in their transitioning ambitions? Dude I am on Reddit everydaym I know how you guys think.
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Ok, I figured you were nuts from your childhood. This confirms it
Only a sick fuck would call somebody crazy about saying it's unethical to chop off a 7 year old's dick
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@oromagi
loyal Americans are nevertheless bound by oath and honor to persist in protecting America from enemies foreign and domestic and Trump is unquestionably that.
That's actually what loyal Americans were doing on January 6th. We had evil people about to take power who would make inflation so high that people are now starving in the streets, they would piss on the constitution and they would start passing mandates to allow teachers to encourage 7 year olds to transition and start the process of getting their dicks cut off.
There is nothing more American than protecting the constitution by attempting to prevent the illuminati who is inherently anti American from taking power
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@IwantRooseveltagain
no, they don’t.
People aren't volunteering to be social workers without getting paid moron.
Here it goes again
"Derp republicans are anarchists and would rely on an unpaid military, police and all government workers doing it for free, Democrats are all benevolent altruists"
You have to work on your thoughts process . I know that the above is as complicated as your brain process can get. You actually believe that red states have child services as an unpaid volunteer position. Shaking my head.
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@zedvictor4
Sure murdering children would prevent childhood poverty, but there has got to be options that don't involve murdering poor people
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CNN so I can learn what all liberals are thinking and then I research professors and other academics who disagree with those narratives to see what the average Republican believes.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
I’m sure they all struggle to find people willing to be foster care parents. I’m talking about how some states support the program with funding and others do not
Every state funds those things
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@IwantRooseveltagain
This statement is straight out of FOX News.
Fix news also stated that WW2 ended in 1945. Would you like to debate whether that is true or not?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Well there’s your problem right there. Florida has no state income tax. Social programs like foster care are low priority. If you had been lucky enough to live in a state that cared about human beings you would have likely had more support.
Name one state that doesn't struggle to get good foster care parents in the system.
Yes, but then you would likely be in poverty in your old age. Do you realize that most seniors in this country get the majority of their income from social security?
Not really. I put like 30% of my money in investments. I would do even more if taxes weren't removed. Also filial responsibility laws would fix what those who fucked up investing or failed to, caused to happen to themselves.
Both Investment banks like Lehman Bros. and Merrill Lynch and commercial banks like Washington Mutual. So, so much for knowing they would be rescued
Thank God they were punished for stealing market share from small banks, but unfortunately the market share up for grabs when they failed most likely went to other big banks due to market interventionism.
Personally I try to avoid feeding the system by sticking with credit unions, but I am only one person.
I’m curious were you got this impression but I’m guessing it was ignorant right wing media.
Just economists from a variety of sources. This is straight projection. You only get your news from Salon so you assume because you do that, that must mean conservatives do it as well. I suggest if you can't find unbiased sources of information that you at least attempt to get it from those who have the opposing bias to yours as well.
If some of the banks hadn’t been bailed out you would have been likely unemployed for the last 14 years. Is that what you want?
Yes if billionaires were not rescued and thus incentivized to partake bad banking practices. It somehow would have effected me, LOL. Tell me how giving bank of America millions would have prevented me from making a good income?
That’s laughable. All the wealth is in California, New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New Jersey. All the poverty is in the red states like Kentucky, West Virginia, Mississippi, and Louisiana.
You do have to do that to hide what is really going on don't you. All the poverty and crime in red states is mostly from the large blue cities within those states not the red cities.
We do know that large cities that are completely controlled by liberals are destroyed. Look at Detroit and Chicago for example.
Are their wealthy elites that live in those cities. Sure, and they fund and vote for Democrats because their millions help isolate them from the effects of those policies and the regulations help them gain more market share.
You can do the same thing on country levels by looking at leftist nations like China, North Korea and Venezuela and see the same results as in major cities ran by Democrats.
If you had been living in Delaware when all this happened I think you would have had better support.
Venezuela is even more liberal than Delaware, by your logic I would have gotten more help in Venezuela than Delaware. You have to get over this retard think that goes like this "derp the further left you go the closer you get to a utopia, derp". That's demonstrably false and even when I proved increased regulations result in more market share for large businesses in banking, agriculture and healthcare this causing more poverty because wealth becomes more centralized and you back pedal and say stupid shit like
"Derp but if we have small businesses able to survive it means employees will be treated badly, derp ignore that Nike literally uses child slave labor as do most multinationals derp"
You are either a legit retard for thinking small businesses being destroyed for the benefit of big businesses is good because those businesses are altruistic God's or you yourself are evil.
I live in Delaware now. Trust me I run into more poverty here and crackheads than I did in Jupiter. If they help more than why is Wilmington Delaware, worse than Jupiter Florida?
Why do you even think that Delaware has alleviated the following problems that have always plagued child services
1. Lack of foster care options
2. Child service workers lasting an average of 6 months to a year and having extremely high turnover and constantly being short handed
There is currently a documentary on Netflix about some kid who was abused by his parents until he died. Child services was in his life a lot and they failed to remove him before he died. Guess where that took place? It took place in one of the biggest cities in California. So a blue city, in a blue state.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
That incorrect not all did lose.
But let's imagine the strategy did actually work. Even if that strategy was effective. Was it worth risking democracy (words from the DNC not me). They were literally increasing the chance of democracy being destroyed for temporary partisan advantage. Seems unethical.
Let me guess though, because you are a retard. Your personal policy is
"Derp I am a retard and everything the DNC does is inherently altruistic and every thing the RNC does is inherently evil?"
How old are you to still be thinking like that?
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I wish I were joking. Either the DNC is pro Trump or they are anti Trump and knowingly funneling what they consider threats to democracy, money to win elections. Either way it's an evil thing to do and unethical.
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I am going to be honest with you. I could have went after my parents for child support. I could have applied for government aid potentially but I was making an income so not sure if I was ever eligible.
I was like you back then also. I was a liberal then I learned about policy issues included economics and philosophy and it became really obvious the results of liberal policies being countries like Venezuela, and I realized it is no coincidence blue cities like Detroit and Chicago turn up into 3rd world countries while republican cities have very little poverty and a lot of economic prosperity.
I live in a blue area now and will confirm it is a shithole and I hope to vacation in the country soon to get away from it and enjoy paradise. As soon as I set myself up to make 6figures from home, I think I'll move the family to the country. I am sure it's exactly how I imagine it in my head. You know without me having to trip over meth heads when I walk into a convenience store and have constant fear of a violent crime happening
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@IwantRooseveltagain
You have no clue what you are talking about. The repeal resulted in investment banks merging with commercial banks. The result was swift and disastrous.
Before the act 80% of banking was done with small banks. What happened to all those wealthy bankers? My guess is they had to get jobs as tellers for the new banks.
You know you really should consider supporting policies that are good for the country . Even if you are a Russian spy or something trying to trick people into supporting policies that harm themselves or you were just brainwashed by a bad actor, you still should see that hurting Americans does not benefit you and only helps the billionaire bankers.
That’s the opposite of what happened. The Housing crash of 2008 was largely the result of repealing Glass-Steagall.Deregulation and a lack of new regulation
My impression is that banks made risky loans and did other stupid moves because they knew they would receive economic interventionism in the form of stimulus and bail outs. So once again had we not removed the consequences of risks for banks through economic interventionism we could have avoided all that.
The banks shouldn't have been bailed out period. Thanks for economic interventionism for making them too big to fail and then thanks economic interventionism for bailing them out instead of taking some short term extreme pain in exchange for long term gain
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Perhaps? Were you guardian to your siblings or not? Sounds like you are dodging.
I said I was. Not a perfect memory from over 2 decades ago though.
We’re your siblings still children in 1997? If you didn’t get it for them you made a mistake.
I am sure I made several errors. It's hard to know what is available to you when you spend all your time working and raising kids. Why didn't Bill Clinton just mail me insurance cards? It's not like I had access to the internet back then to know these things.
Come on, usually government is the Federal government not the local police. What state were you living in when you ran away?
Florida, yeah it was all local governments. Local police putting me in an abusive home, followed by the department of children and families.
At your income level you don’t pay any Federal income tax. You pay social security tax for your retirement and disability and Medicare tax.
Yeah back then it was minimum wage or close to it, but had I been in charge of my own retirement and Medicare or whatever than I could have utilized the money immediately.
My income level recently has dropped so maybe I can get a refund for some of the federal taxes I paid this year, but how much I made the prior year and before that I doubt I can get refunded. It is only around 70k this year due to me just deciding to go into a deep depression earlier this year and become catatonic. I think I may switch to a higher paying role come February or March but I kind of like taking it easy right now, even though I am working long hours.
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It sucks that repealing it hurt big business so stocks went down, but it's good that there was more competition and less corruption in banking because of the repeal
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Glass-Steagall was good legislation. Just 10years after it’s repeal the banking industry put our economy in the worst crisis since the Depression
Look up the statistics for how much banking was done by small banks before the act vs after the act.
I understand the intent behind the legislation was good. You need to actually look into the results of these regulations not what the stated intent is.
Would you like to debate the following. You would be pro
"Glass Steagull was a perfect policy with zero negative results"
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Tell me how much help you got from the government to be able to support your younger siblings. Food stamps? Free lunch at school? Free healthcare from CHIPS. How did programs created by Democrats help you and your family?
I didn't get any of that. We went without healthcare or food stamps. Free lunches at school, perhaps . Honestly though I think all republicans support the free lunch programs.
In fact I will let you into just how much the government helped me.
I was in an abusive home and ran away with my siblings. The police caught us, criticized me for being a bad brother and returned us to my father.
So I guess thanks government for literally putting me in an abusive home.
I didn't have the best mother, but we were kidnapped so not entirely her fault for the situation.
When we did manage to get removed and put into a foster home, my sister went to a temporary foster home where she was abused until she got into a girl's home. She did end up in a therapeutic foster home and ended up escaping the abuse. So for her that was the second time government intervention put her in an abusive home.
Me and my brother immediately went to a boy's home which was terrible but not abusive. We then went to an abusive foster home and I even witnessed a 5 year old get molested. So thanks government intervention, I guess.
I had to do a ton of work to be freed from that abusive situation and to free my siblings. When I was free, I represented myself in court and fault for the custody of my siblings. As soon as I got custody, the state immediately stopped assisting us at all. DCF disappeared as did the guardian ad litem and every one else.
I didn't get government money, nor did I get any food stamps. What Is did get was less money in my paycheck due to taxes which made things harder.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Correct regulation or I should say over regulation is bad. Let's debate "over regulation is good" . I will take con.
As far as unions are concerned, red states make interventionist laws that harm unions and a lot of blue states make laws that favor unions. Neither approach is okay. Both approaches are pure evil.
A law that says if 51% of my workforce signs up for a union, I have to is evil and unethical. A law that demand employers give benefits to non union members that union members negotiated for, is evil and unethical. The government should not be picking winners and losers.
Here this could also help you understand why the 1880s were not Laissez-faire. You're welcome
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Standard oil literally paid Democrats to change laws so they could more easily dominate their competition. Those laws were for economic interventionism not removal of regulation's.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
go after striking employees?That’s Republicans
Actually Woodrow Wilson was in office when Rockefeller paid him to kill his employees
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Why did it become a monopoly? It did it by the use of government interventionism helping. Standard oil used the government for a long time and also intimidated competition etc. Had a Laissez Faire system been in place their intimidation would have violated the law they would have been put out of business
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Should we let small businesses pollute the environment or cheat their employees just so they can survive? I don’t think so.
I have worked for small and big businesses. That is more common in big business. I don't think going out of your way to destroy the economy and small businesses help the situation
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Oh the 1880s where the government intervened for John D Rockefeller to go after striking employees?
That's interventionism. A right wing government would allow strikes not send the national guard in.
Literally the 1880s had government intervention.
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Debate me on whether regulations are generally easier for big billion dollar corporations or independent business owners. I will take the position that having billions at your disposal makes navigating complex regulations easier.
If we want we can also debate whether any over regulation exists in any capacity.
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Look, the idea that the US was going to be a network of rural farms and an agrarian economy went out with Thomas Jefferson. You are clueless.
Not sure what you mean. I merely pointed out economic interventionism and what immediately followed which is that we went from small businesses dominating an industry to soulless corporations paying people minimum wage
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I am not talking about medicare. fDR placed wage caps on employers which meant employers started to offer health insurance to lure talent in. This resulted in patients being insulated from healthcare costs and rewarding companies willing to overcharge insurance companies
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What does leftist mean? Define leftist.
Personally I would define the left right paradigm as how much economic interventionism or government interventionism a person wants. As far left as you can go is totalitarianism like north Korea or Venezuela or Nazi Germany. But as far right as you can go would be Laissez Faire capitalism or anarchy
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That’s nonsense. The FDA was created in 1906 to promote public health through the control and supervision of food safety, tobacco products, caffeine products, dietary supplements, prescription and over-the-counter pharmaceutical
We know the claimed intent. Who were the biggest lobbies for this act? I will give you a hint. Big food producers. Regardless of the intent the results are that most food was bought from local people, now most of it comes from a handful of multinational corporations.
Would you like to debate whether regulations are easier for billion dollar companies to confirm to or easier for your average rural farmer who is according to you an idiot?
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Who advocated for the repeal of Glass-Steagal? Republicans
Correct. Like I said the passing of Glass Steagull caused people to immediately go from banking at local banks to national and multinational ones in a relatively short period of time.
Before Glass Steagull passed 80% of banking was done at mom and pop banks. Afterwards 80% is done at the top 5 or 6 banking institutions.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
ask Alan Greenspan and Hank Paulson
I just listed 3 proofs for my position and you instead of disproving my evidence decide to make a logical fallacy known as appeal to authority. Is that correct? Also I happen to know for a fact Greenspan would fall closer to me ideologically than you.
What is leftism? you are equated democratic socialism to leftism. Democratic Socialism is simply regulated capitalism.
North Korea and Venezuela are at the bottom of the economic freedom index which rates how capitalistic a country is. My interpretation of the index is that the countries at the top are more capitalistic snd the ones at the bottom more leftist
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Many of them are white guys who are uneducated and watched as they fell out of the middle class as rich people got richer with the help of the Republican Party.
The economic freedom index disproves the theory that leftism promotes economic prosperity as the most leftist countries are at the bottom of it. The reason you refuse to debate is likely because you know your theories are easily disproven. There is a reason why selfish billionaires like Soros, bill Gates and the Rothschild's are all liberal. We know economic interventionism harms competition for the following reasons.
1. After Glass Steagull people went from banking primarily with small banks to banking with the top 5 banking institutions.
2. After the FDA was created to make more regulations we went from most groceries being bought from local grocery and food producers to now a handful of companies controlling the food supply
3. After economic interventionism by FDR your favorite guy, hospital visits because the price was hidden from consumers and passed to insurance agencies hospitals started becoming ridiculously expensive.
So all your theories about moving towards more economic interventionism are easily disproven by historical examples.
Oh, you really need to learn how to communicate better.
There was a common sense way to interpret that and a retarded way. Considering that I admitted I already dropped out, it was pretty retarded to interpret the statement that way.
I would love to hear your story. Maybe I can show you where you went wrong.
Yes I dropped out of highschool at 16 because I was emancipated to become an adult and gained custody of my younger siblings. It took 2 minimum wage jobs to afford to raise them, so there was no time for school. Not to mention it isn't easy for even an emancipated 16 yr old to acquire an apartment lease.
Most girls who drop out of high school do so because they got pregnant, Republican Congresswoman Lauren Bobert for example.
It doesn't surprise me that pregnancy makes school tough
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No, what do you think motivated me to do that?
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Why do you think I did that?
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I guess you also missed that sensitivity class at your minimum wage job.
why do you hate poor people? Does it make you feel good about yourself to hate black people, Appalachian mountain folks, immigrants and the handicapped and mentally ill that struggle to make a high wage and receive educations?
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Why is this a common theme. I am pro life. Very pro life. I think abortion is murder.
I think common sense tells us that punishing women for this is wrong. Only doctors who perform abortions should be punished and anyone assisting them.
Stop shitting on the poor people in tough situations seeking a solution in a moment of desperation. Start punishing money hungry doctors, murdering for profit
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Again, genius, it’s:…ever to read Foreign Affairs magazine. Did you miss that class in high school about basic grammar?
I dropped out of highschool as a freshman. I would still easily crush you in a policy debate.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
I honestly didn't think anyone on a debate site, particularly a member so interested in American policy issues would be too ignorant to ever read a foreign affairs magazine.
Bare minimum to talk about American domestic and foreign policy, should be to regularly read foreign affairs magazine which is what many policy makers refer to or the individuals writing in it, before they make foreign policy decisions.
Hell, Biden gets at least some briefs from many of the writers in that magazine.
I am seriously confused why you are calling rural voters idiots while you yourself don't seem to educate yourself on foreign policy. Even a lot of the domestic policy you see being discussed on the site is because of foreign policy issues. For example here are some domestic issues that are a direct result of foreign policy concerns.
1. Tik tok being a Chinese information gathering tool as well as a demoralization propaganda effort
2. Discord, Twitter and many other social media companies having massive amounts of Chinese money in them, giving them access to the data of millions of Americans.
3. Russian infiltration of many far left and far right American extremist groups.
4. The cyber security weaknesses of local governments which continue to be soft targets for foreign intelligence agencies
5. An alarming amount of "whistle blowers" who leak information to WikiLeaks while whistle blowers from non western countries rarely have their stuff appear on these sites and revealed to hostile countries.
6. Domestic inflation caused by making up for the European shortage of oil that was previously acquired from Russia.
You are just completely uneducated about these things and like a 12 year old still engage in rooting for a political football team instead of having a balanced view of things. Most of us usually fall left on most issues or right on all issues, but there is a distinct difference between usually falling one way or another because of ideological differences, and being a retard who just watches left wing news outlets and goes "derp I will just believe that instead of examining the issue from other angles"
Seriously, anyone who comments on foreign or domestic issues and has never taken the time to pick up a foreign affairs magazine is a retard. The same goes for having opinions on supreme court decisions and never reading through the judges decisions to see why they supported the decision they made.
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