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Just FYI, members of the site will be getting free shit once a week every Friday/Saturday and the gravy train only stops if I am unelected.
48 hours or there abouts until the next free thing drops. Comment below to tell me what type of free shit you want?
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Vermin Supreme officially endorses me as site president.
Who will endorse me next?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Nobody below the age of 75 reads news papers. Stupid take.
Besides newspapers are not informative I get more information from picking up a foreign affairs magazine then newspapers stating stupid shit like "local man breaks into funeral home to fuck dead bodies"
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@Yassine
Does laissez-faire refer to corporate activity or individual private finances & transactions?
A Laissez Faire system would if done correctly result in a bunch of small independent business owners, similar to what we had prior to the industrial revolution, but with less ability to treat workers as terrible as was done back then.
The Right are shifting slowly further back in History in reaction to present Progressivism.
That's a fair criticism and one of the downfalls to conservatism, and at risk of revealing my power level, I think conservatives are valuable allies, but ultimately would lean towards some sort of populist fascism. Being consistently behind liberals by 20 years is a losing strategy.
The conservatism of a person like John Adams is more sustainable but ultimately is becoming extremely rare among conservatives .
So first we would divide red by blue states and then work towards policies that would bring about some sort of technocratic right wing fascism that is a mix of evola style governance and transhumanism.
Where do you see yourself now, & how far back in History are you willing to go to uphold your ideals?
Me personally. I just try to use the tools of modern society while resisting things that are destructive, such as cutting my dick off, having meaningless sex, doing drugs and letting life pass me by, by using the television and internet as some sort of opium of the masses. I also have a strong revulsion towards consumerism.
I wouldn't go back to uphold my ideals. The destructiveness of liberal ideologies is something we have proven we can not tolerate. We showed them freedom of speech and they used it to cancel conservatives and kick them out of the public square for example. We allowed them to use corporations to attack American society with their filth.
In my society, every member would work towards what is best for the country and we would make laws to ensure that happens, but we would have to control culture as well.
Maybe sterilize family lines which are proven to be bad.
Indoctrinate people in schools where the marxists have previously infiltrated and corrupted.
In fact basically take what the CCP has done, but instead of doing it selfishly for themselves and their party, invert it to do what is good for America.
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@Sidewalker
I'm pretty sure being guilty when you are charged with a serious crime is not irrelevent.
The statement you made was not relevant to what I was saying is obviously what I meant
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@IwantRooseveltagain
It's clear you aren't foliar with the etymology of the phrase and what it means. https://www.mymetmedia.com/indict-ham-sandwich/
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@Barney
It sounds self contradictory on her part. It shouldn't be bannable to be a bitch, but I can understand the frustration on your part.
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Thank you for the nomination. Should you somehow win I will gladly accept the position and support your efforts.
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@Sidewalker
Especially if the ham sandwich is guilty as hell.
Irrelevant. The point is indictments are easy to get.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Yes he did, but much more eloquently than you
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I guess that's a fair enough statement, it just felt like it was insinuating something else
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@Barney
- And due to the severity of the lies about other users,
That sounds like a subjective judgement.
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She thought the threat shouldn't be ban worthy or she thought it wasn't direct enough to prove her case. Perhaps she didn't feel like searching for hours through post history to prove some rando made a threat that they are very unlikely to follow through on and that a mod banning the individual would be an overreaction.
I have received threats I haven't reported. Mostly on DDO. It's not a big deal. On Facebook, Twitter etc. I receive death threats like once a week. I don't report them. I barely acknowledge them. It's really no big deal
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@Barney
We're they banned for the following a post of yours a few before that
If the claim is true, offer details so that whomever it was may be banned. Otherwise we'll be left with the conclusion you're lying as a desperate plea for attention.
Is lying and being an attention whore suddenly a bannable offense?
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"you can indict a ham sandwich". It's not particularly hard to do
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@Greyparrot
I agree with most of what you said.
If they were being totally honest, "a good Democrat is a dead Democrat" would likely be the most prevalent sympathy.
I believe most of us have people close to us who are Democrats who we love very much. My wife's cats for example.
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@Double_R
I ignore this talking point of yours because it has absolutely nothing to do with the thread.
Smart choice. It is off topic. This isn't even a thread about the 2nd amendment perse . It's about whether 2nd amendment "enthusiasts" have an easy time ignoring gun control arguments because it is typically not something that effects their communities.
I have seen similar arguments concerning the different treatment of the crack epidemic vs the meth epidemic. I don't think the different approaches were all racial though. We also are in a time where liberal ideologies around drugs are more prevalent and the libertarian movement has done a lot of work pushing the narrative that drug addiction is a medical issue not a crime.
Personally, I think yes. I think if gun violence was more prevalent in the white community, there would be a lot more people for more gun control. Personally I think the gun control arguments are wrong, but it doesn't change the fact that a clear majority of people would disagree with me, if the problem was right in their own backyard.
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- DDO-to-DART's history, I've never seen someone go from as good as you used to be to as dogshit as you are now.
This true but really life has gotten in the way of the effort I am able to put into debates. I managed to do so well on DDO because I debated an interesting concept. I didn't plan my arguments, but what I did do was find a way to immerse myself for 12 hours a day in formulating my arguments by passively listening to podcasts on the topic, watching YouTube and spending a lot of time writing.
I want to spend that much time now, but I can't. It was fun. For example I spent the last 6 months working 60 hours a week. When I am off, I have fun with my son. We play Minecraft or I work with him on his homework because his mother lacks the patience so it falls on me. I also drive her back and forth to work so that consumes between mine her and the kids travel 2 hours a day.
I also try to fit in a workout and some self development for example lately I have been spending 30 minutes a day with the book psycho cybernetics.
I want to put in that effort. You know what I do now instead of spending spare time researching debates? I study for the CompTIA A+ certification or some other thing I think will help me move in the direction I want to go.
I don't have time for the presidency. I want you to actually work on yourself. You just need to stop seeing people in such a negative way and be more of a team player. I am not here to defeat you and prevent you from being the president. I am here to make you a better president. You are almost there.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Oromagi already made this thread. Pay attention
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Robert Greene is a fucking idiot and his laws are contradictory.
A reminder I wasted like $40 bucks on mastery and the shit could have been written in one paragraph.
Find mentor learn from them through instruction and osmosis them be master of thing.
Fucking stupid.
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@oromagi
If you look at what lunatic posted from that thread then you'll see it was me accusing another user of being a pedophile and then making a Chris Hanson joke. David did delete the thread once it got shown as the reason he banned me as a way to cover up his stupid manufactured reasoning. This isn't like the BSH1 thing where I flirted with a minor (not that his actions were intentionally malevolent, it was an innocent slip up).
The debate and I think I elaborated on the position more when I did the debate on debate.org where I was a top 5 debater against stiffer competition.
The opening of the fBI child porn database would reduce the ability of people to exploit children because it would reduce the economic incentives for exploiting children.
It would also bring more unknown perpetrators to justice who are seen in those films by perverts jerking off to the films, recognizing a participant and then using the FBI tip box under the film to report the person so they would be brought to justice.
So the argument was about a strategy to reduce child exploitation, and about bringing more offending pedophiles to justice.
There is also data that supports countries that outlaw porn see an Increase in rape and other sexual offenses, so there is an argument to be made that the FBI releasing it's database would prevent more harm to children.
It's a really good arguments for releasing the FBI's child porn database. It isn't an argument for supporting the child porn industry, it actually would eradicate it.
Obviously, even though the argument is ethical to make because it is one about reducing the incentive to exploit children, lowering the amount of pedophile offenders and bringing more offenders to justice it's more of a thought experiment and devil's advocate position.
I believe that you could potentially poke holes in the porn bans resulting in more rape arguments, but the other 2 arguments that it reduces the commercial viability of producing porn and it brings more offenders to justice is true.
If you actually take the time to understand the position it is about protecting children not harming them so you painting me in that light is wrong.
It's a sensitive subject, but the thought experiment I laid out was worth exploring and taken far enough might provide some real world solutions to combating the exploitation and abuse of children.
It's a nuanced position, a thought experiment just like my debate against Danielle about judicial corporal punishment and it's worthy of exploring, because it often helps look at problems with a unique point of view that could perhaps recognize some unintuitive solutions to problems we all see in society.
For example during the judicial corporal punishment research I realized the following things, while advocate that an alternative to prison should be caning inmates.
1. Prison sentences are often counter productive to what we want to do as a society. For the following reasons
The debate and I think I elaborated on the position more when I did the debate on debate.org where I was a top 5 debater against stiffer competition.
The opening of the fBI child porn database would reduce the ability of people to exploit children because it would reduce the economic incentives for exploiting children.
It would also bring more unknown perpetrators to justice who are seen in those films by perverts jerking off to the films, recognizing a participant and then using the FBI tip box under the film to report the person so they would be brought to justice.
So the argument was about a strategy to reduce child exploitation, and about bringing more offending pedophiles to justice.
There is also data that supports countries that outlaw porn see an Increase in rape and other sexual offenses, so there is an argument to be made that the FBI releasing it's database would prevent more harm to children.
It's a really good arguments for releasing the FBI's child porn database. It isn't an argument for supporting the child porn industry, it actually would eradicate it.
Obviously, even though the argument is ethical to make because it is one about reducing the incentive to exploit children, lowering the amount of pedophile offenders and bringing more offenders to justice it's more of a thought experiment and devil's advocate position.
I believe that you could potentially poke holes in the porn bans resulting in more rape arguments, but the other 2 arguments that it reduces the commercial viability of producing porn and it brings more offenders to justice is true.
If you actually take the time to understand the position it is about protecting children not harming them so you painting me in that light is wrong.
It's a sensitive subject, but the thought experiment I laid out was worth exploring and taken far enough might provide some real world solutions to combating the exploitation and abuse of children.
It's a nuanced position, a thought experiment just like my debate against Danielle about judicial corporal punishment and it's worthy of exploring, because it often helps look at problems with a unique point of view that could perhaps recognize some unintuitive solutions to problems we all see in society.
For example during the judicial corporal punishment research I realized the following things, while advocate that an alternative to prison should be caning inmates.
1. Prison sentences are often counter productive to what we want to do as a society. For the following reasons
A. Cause people to connect with other criminals and foster a type of felon university
B. Take father's out of the home who need to provide for their family.
C. Give people a blemish on their record and make them harder to integrate back into society to be productive members of it upon releasing.
2. That the war on drugs harms the black community by taking a lot of black males out of society. We can see countries where large male segments migrate out for various reasons and the effect we see on those communities is similar to what we are seeing in black communities in America. This is complicated and nuanced to spell out but having significantly fewer males than females in a particular society is detrimental because it gives men too much power to mate select, which promotes promiscuity, single mother hood and reduces the civilizing effect women have on men, with less power of mate selection.
3. We also see more harms on lower income populations due to the fact that it is often better to just plead guilty to a crime you didn't commit, than it is to plead innocent and have to spend time defending your case. This results in the negative impact of a record that would not happen if a person could make bail and quickly be back in society while defending their innocence.
So what real world solutions does participating in a judicial corporal punishment thought experiment reveal?
1. Some sort of bail reform. Not what liberals are proposing now which there are many cases of violent offenders immediately getting out to finish what they started with victims, but bail reform for non violent offenders who want to plead innocent and fight to keep their name in good standing, but also need to quickly get back to work to support their family.
2. We need more of a focus in prisons on preparing prisoners to return to society. This doesn't even necessarily mean giving them less time, but making sure they don't reoffend by providing them resources to reintegrate will help them as well as society as a whole.
3. The war on drugs needs to focus on giving people help. I don't think we need to go as far as giving people free heroin or anything that absurd but if we are willing to spend a shitload keeping them in prison, we might be saving ourselves a bit of money if we can get them the help they need before they end up in prison.
4. Ban the felon check box on applications. Seriously why is Applebee's asking dishwashers if they are felons? Who gives a fuck. Let these people reintegrate into society and punish businesses for being retarded.
Had I finished the other debate about the FBI porn database, we both may have learned something. I apologize for that. These thought experiments are worth doing though. Here is something I learned from the first debate.
1. We should make it easier for pedophiles to receive help before they offend or before they offend again.
These people have to keep a nasty secret about themselves, and if they fear coming forward to tell somebody because it will immediately put them in prison than they are afraid to get help.
These people are a danger to society and we need to support measures for them to come forward and get the help they need not to offend.
People should not have their character attacked on this site for making devil's advocate debates or conducting thought experiments . This place is not for advocating your actual positions. It is for having intellectual exchanges that help you grow.
You can go proselytize elsewhere. This isn't the spot for it. This is supposed to be the spot you go to hash things out before you proselytize not the place you proselytize.
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@Yassine
As in 2 countries. The southeastern part of the United States and all solidly red states. You won't see liberals supporting such a thing because while this would result in a virtual utopia for the red states, this sort of thing would result in the destruction of blue states because a parasite requires a host. We would likely see another war of Northern aggression backed by 3rd world shit holes like California try to dominate the south so they can keep a hold of their host to leech off of. They obviously would fail because their army would consist of undisciplined mud people, women and trannies who would face strong masculine men who are disciplined and fight with the moral high ground
It is no coincidence that blue areas always become poor and resemble 3rd world countries while red areas prosper with low crime good economies and family values.- Why exactly do you think this is?
I believe that the closer you get to Laissez Faire capitalism, the more prosperous a nation will be and I believe that the economic freedom index which measures how Laissez-faire a country is, indicates this.
I've seen some of that. How far would you go to prevent things like Liberalism, abortion, child sex ed, gender affirming treatment, euthanasia, family drag... normalized across the US?
Precisely as far as the Taliban would go. If they want to live in the Weimar Republic they can move to a blue state, where without republicans to intervene in such things would legalize shit like pedophilia.
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History has already taught that the modern, diverse, industrialized, scientific, democratic majority of the nation will always prefer union
Of course they prefer union. A leech requires a host
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@Yassine
@oromagi
Definitely a 2 state solution. It will undoubtedly prove the inferiority of liberalism. The blue states can cut off their children's dicks abort all their babies and have their soft fascism while red states will flourish without the depravity and economic turmoil.
It is no coincidence that blue areas always become poor and resemble 3rd world countries while red areas prosper with low crime good economies and family values.
I live in a blue area now. Trust me, absolute shit hole. Whenever I go on road trips to visit relatives in other blue areas, same thing. Meanwhile when I make put stops in red areas, absolute fucking paradise, every one of them.
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@Greyparrot
Yes for 3rd world shit holes that we have no business forcing our way of life on
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@oromagi
- AI and child porn? I can't think of two subjects you were ever more passionate about.
The child porn comment is unacceptable. I was banned from the site because I requested help to identify a potential pedophile to the police.
Also the AI debate was against a fellow liberal who was so left wing he considered AU racist. Not me.
My interest in AI is limited to the following categories
1. How a technological singularity brought on by AI answers the Fermi Paradox
2. How advances in AI will assist in bringing about radical life extension
I also hold out some hope we can replace the government with a perfect AI program, so we can have perfect governance that will create maximum freedom and prosperity which I think go hand in hand as indicated by the economic freedom index.
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@Lunatic
Understandable, I think Ragnar isn't really appropriate as a mod personally. Whiteflame is doing a fine job and I understand he probably needs help and competent help is in short supply, so it's a tough situation. Plus I am skeptical of his ability to do the right thing in that regard because he seems to also not like upsetting people in general and it's impossible to have somebody incompetent step down without hurting their feelings.
I am struggling to do it here because I know that Ragnar is well liked, has contributed a ton of good stuff here and is honorable. He just isn't a good mod.
I am going to need your help with setting modding on the right course if I win. If I lose Ii think I'll be powerless. I just basically need to bang out a project and make an amendment that will make my presidency a 3 months and make my impact and move on.
I have been assured by the moderation team- that they will allow the next president to influence them. So this isn't an over faith in the position but me taking them at their word.
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@oromagi
That ain't research. That's not even curiousity. That is believing the first critter that tries to manipulate your opinion by reinforcing your ignorant prejudices.
Bro I used to read Michael Moore books. I know what liberals believe and it's why I am not one anymore.
Dude. We have debated a couple of times. We both know you don't do any of that shit. No need to lie.
Generally I lose interest and drop out and we typically focus on things where I am arguing devil's advocate. I would be willing to take pro on the following actual researched positions with 1 month argument times and a reasonable character count. I would leave the site if we pick 5 unbiased judges and I lost on any of the following. These are off the top of my head.
1. The fair tax should replace the current tax system
2. The disproportionate use of force against African Americans is the direct result of individual police officers racism on balance
3. School district funds should be distributed by county (con has to argue status quo)
4. Abortion after the first trimester should only occur for legitimate medical reasons
5. Infanticide should receive less harsh punishment by the law than murder.
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@Lunatic
think you could actually learn alot and grow from the presidency. You definitely have passion for the website.
I agree with this and would like to set up a sort of interim presidency to help him sort out a few things before he takes the role.
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@Lunatic
Do the mods still run things by you at all as somebody to kind of prevent hive mind from forming?
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@Dr.Franklin
I actually like when Best.Korea trolls so I will not vote for Wylted
As somebody who says whatever it takes to get elected, I assure you that he will double his trolling if I am elected.
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@ILikePie5
As a citizen of Dart. Thank you
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@oromagi
The fact that you believe what your read on Twitter and Tik Tok explains why you are such a fucking useless ignoramus. You should fell shame for being so easy to manipulate.
I think it's fair to take people on their word and liberal hiveminds include reddit, Twitter and TikTok. It is how I do my research to see what liberals believe. To find out what conservatives believe I usually read economics text books, listen to philosophy lectures and consult with conservative think tanks.
Nobody wants to sex change children. That is just another one of those fucked up voodoo myths Tucker tells you to believe and you lack the work ethic or the self-respect to wonder why you let those Tucker fucks control your information.
I don't watch Tucker Carlson, though I respect him for telling the truth. I did see a clip recently where he pointed out the mainstream case for helping Ukraine is bad. Pro Ukraine people's argument seems to be Ukraine is a a free country with a perfect democracy and zelensky is honorable and he pointed out the crackdown on a branch of Christianity, the media shutdowns of media criticism of zelensky and his attempt to imprison a political rival.
Now I understand America's foreign policy and why they are waging a proxy war there, but Tucker is right to criticize the majority of media because they are trying to make a moral case for the proxy war that just falls flat, especially when you see similar sieges elsewhere in the world that go ignored if it doesn't serve western foreign policy interests.
So no I don't watch him but occasionally see a clip I agree with.
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@oromagi
Fucking over the weak and despising the law are two primary qualification for running for Republican office these days, apparently.
You should despise the law. It made slavery legal, the Holocaust was legal. If it weren't for people despising the laws than I would not have the privilege of sharing water fountains with black people and we would have double the water fountains we do now.
So what is it? Do laws determine morality or is it GoD?
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@oromagi
- 99.99% of Americans agree that 7 year olds are too young for phalloplasty.
That is not what I am seeing on Twitter or TikTok. We have people literally saying it is racist to lose weight and I just saw some posts saying that the actors in avatar are being threatened over doing blue face.
This is your typical liberal. If you don't believe those things you are probably a Republican and just don't know it because of straw man's the media use which don't seem to support your beliefs.
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Fair enough
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I approve this message from badger who is at least 50% of our triumvirate.
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You guys are really being unfair to double R LOL.
His thread legitimately got derailed because of partisan bitching and his point entirely missed.
He actually seems to make an effort to come at this from a neutral position steal manning his opponents despite using loaded terms like "racist".
This is why nobody sticks around.
He essentially is wondering whether it's easy to ignore calls for gun control for whites because it effects black communities more.
He isn't blaming whites for being unaware of the disproportionate impact on African Americans.
He isn't saying all arguments against gun control are based on race.
This is why people don't stick around.
Literally every Republican on the site who commented on this made it about what political football team they are on, instead of the issue.
This isn't about whether some gun control restrictions go too far or an argument even for gun restrictions. It is more of a sociological question and sadly he would have probably got better responses from the brain dead types who frequent reddit.
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@AustinL0926
It usually turns into either an event coordinator position or nothing. Me personally I would like to bring an event coordinator on board, but I envision it as a way for the community to make some more bottom up decisions, and I would like to bring on board a liaison to the mods so I don't have to do it, but whiteflame has assured me that he will allow whoever is president to weigh in at the very least on broader issues.
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My threads were actually on 3 unique things. One was recruitment related not campaign related. One was congratulating the other 2 parts of my triumvirate and the other was an announcement of me running to save the site
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I have the same issue with the flag being half mast every other day. It needs to be like a 9-11 size event to justify that
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@Sir.Lancelot
That means a lot from somebody so close to the royal family
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@Sir.Lancelot
Intelligence will be supporting me, but no president doesn't have modding powers
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Yes I was. I really didn't want to run but you forced my hand both times. You need help bro. The fact major player in all 3 political parties has agreed to endorse me, says a lot about you
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Not a threat a request for mod action and my campaign seeks transparency so it was a public request
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@Best.Korea
Done. You will be in charge of my personal security as well during all online events
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@Best.Korea
If you join my team then it provides ample opportunity to murder the leader and take complete control of the site.
Consider a role as chief military advisor please
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@Ragnar
Post number 5 is technically doxxing. I know a ban would be controversial in the middle of an election cycle, but you can't let politics get in the way of doing what is right
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I am actually aware of that. It's odd but I hope you actually start examining things more along how you can be happier as a person instead of the current introspection you do which is full of self hatred projected into the world.
You are a great guy but nobody is going to see it until you start treating people more kindly, most importantly yourself
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