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The far-right groups you mention are cringe anyways who cares. Those are just fringe-right weirdos nobody likes that are the Russian equivalent of American wignat groups.Also Schwab stopped supporting Putin amidst the invasion. I don't think Putin's a great leader, but Russia's clearly in the right to not want global western hegemony and NATO encroachment.
Clearly in the right, I see. That explains the forceful invasion and thousands of duped soldiers dying, not knowing what they're even fighting for on Russia's side as well as the death toll on Ukraine's side.
Solid reasoning.
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blocking this mf ^dude thinks he has the courtesy to keep pinging me after blocking me
No worries, thanks to how blocking works on this website, it doesn't stop me tearing your propaganda to shreds.
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And what are you sympathising with in Putin's Russia? The left-wing liberals who are being arrested for protesting? I'd share that empathy with you if you felt it.
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And what happens in Russia for you to be supporting it in this war?
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@triangle.128k
That's very unlikely as Putin runs his own nation in a very Nazi-like manner, minus the concentration camps (though prison conditions in Russia are very terrible).
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@Incel-chud
The biggest mystery is where you think the following:
- That you know how much each person here has donated or not donated.
- That you think making these type of profile pics mainstream will not increase the willingness and likelihood of people to donate.
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@Dr.Franklin
Mhmm, are you suggesting the tyranny of Putin on protesters is equal to what Canada has done to the truckers in terms of proportional punishment vs action?
Also, are you suggesting the cause of the truckers is as necessary and valid as that of the anti-Ukrain-war protesters and anti-Putin/tyranny protesters who have been there before?
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@Dr.Franklin
I see, what is it you think is happening right now in Ukraine that the US is experiencing worse than?
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@Incel-chud
Thanks for the tantrum, it makes it obvious what kind of mentality lies behind the Russia supporters.
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@zedvictor4
Currently their is only one
Is this the correct use of 'their', Mr. grammar expert? ;)
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[Insert propaganda quips and satire]
If you think this is a callout thread, then I wonder who I am calling out.
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Meanwhile Putin is sending cannon fodder that do not even know what they are fighting for.
Propaganda kind of loses its power when you realise the real context. A country is being invaded and happens to work with some people who believe in something, so as to defend itself against the barbaric invasion. Ooooh let's demonise them after you posted 'deserve to lose their shitty country' just a day before on amother thread.
Get lost.
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@Athias
I am not mocking it or memeing it. Try your projection elsewhere.
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@Athias
You are NOT supporting Ukraine with these profile pics. They're nothing more than memes which reflect the latest online outrage. Support Ukraine by getting off your ass and doing something. Even if you don't intend to fight in the front lines, you can donate your time. You can join groups that are helping the Ukrainian non-combatants evacuate. You can send money to fundraisers. You can volunteer and join relief efforts in providing food to the refugees. But, this appalling display here only tells me that the only thing you support is your online friends knowing how you feel.And I get it, editing pixels allows you to feign support from a distance. And just so it's known, I'm not targeting just you. My response applies to every single member on this site who's donned the Ukrainian flag in some pseudo-display of so-called "support."
You neither know what I do in my spare time nor is your argument valid if I or others would not do more towards it than spread awareness peer pressure support and get a fucking conversation going.
Nobody in the entire world should not know of this event, this is a disgusting brutal invasion that could become world war three if it's handled wrong. Just keep typing your bullcrap and act like a big man doing so much while really all you did was to encourage the assassination of people who happen to be rich and who actually are advising Putin against the war (yes, rich Russians are responding to the paralysis of their assets accordingly and were never for the war to begin with, it's unclear where Putin got the idea and it is likely it was China who advised it).
All you are doing is whining and moaning 'oh yeah i'm so cool i have afro samurai as my image hehe I'm not a poser I'm doing so much for Ukraine' fuck off.
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(A) We don’t have a full understanding of Putin’s reasons for acting now as opposed to beforeWho is this "we" you speak of? Most of the world knows exactly why Putin decided to invade right now.
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@ILikePie5
Coal is much more right-leaning than left-leaning tbh.
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Raging on behalf of the machine is the only acceptable action.
And who are tou raging on behalf of? You call truckers in Canada victims of Fascism but ignore Russia itself and now Ukraine being victims of Putin's fascism for no reason other than a sneer as you essentially say 'but countries bought oil, they cannot be against the brutal Imperialist invasion of Ukraine.'
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Not sure which country you mean there. Many European countries are switching to full boycott of all Russian goods.
US shpuld join in but whiners and moaners like yourself will vote against it.
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Actually, this thread is virtue signalling about purity of vodka and oil when there is a fucking entire continent (Europe) and at the very least Ukraine itself (the second-largest nation in Europe) at threat of imperialist overthrow woth thousands alreadt dead.
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GP would you be agaimst making a similar thread scheme entitled 'Ukrainians fight Putin's Fascism' or are you just here to feign empathy for victims of Fascist Tyranny?
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@Athias
Your bitter resentment would be better directed towards Putin, however you are free to whine and scathe at the supporters of Ukraine if that floats your boat.
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@oromagi
My answer is no, to the latter.
However, the circumstances are different as this is our present, not our past.
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@TheUnderdog
Well UK and Germany (this time allies) have led the way with regards to the warfare on Russia and it isn't risking lives of their own so far. It's very economic and linked to paralysing Putin's rich allies/stooges abroad as well as paralysing the entire banking system of Russia that has branches anywhere and estate, assets or anything really.
They, and others, are both doing that and of course financially and technologically (as well as with ammunitions and other things though Germany held back on that due to the agreement they made to stay militaristically passive other than defending their own nation after WWII). If US would actively engage in the economic warfare and push harder for sanctions it would immensely help the battle but people like yourself enable the apathy as well as people like Incel-Chud and GreyParrot who not just enable apathy but enable sadistic mockery of Ukraine's misery and scatching support for Russia, people like that are truly enabling and supporting US to pussy out of actively helping Ukraine much.
US has only taken the step to halt transactions in dollars by Russian banks, they can do way way more.
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@oromagi
Unfortunately, Putin studies his enemies intently and engages into things with many contingency-plans in place (in the past, at least as he seems to have become less sane). He already thought ahead towards early sanctions and tamed China and the Middle East (North Korea is just an unofficial extension of the CCP, it's an experiment of what losing the face of democracy will do for them so they let it exist, I genuinely believe this and it's why Kim Jong-un supports Putin more than the CCP in public even though North Korea should be scared shit if Russia can do this to Ukraine and get away with it because that means China can do it to them).
I won't say more as it may help Putin to form an idea. I will just say I can already see a plan about how threats/bluffs and further maneuvres can start to make it so that Ukraine doesn't lose brutally but instead surrenders and the one holding the gun may not necessarily be Putin on his own.
I do want Ukraine to win, desperately though. I am not gonna feign the optimism that some are about the win being inevitable though. This is a real war, real uncertainty about who wins and how.
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@triangle.128k
It's very clear you struggle to keep reading things once you begin, you didn't need to tell us that. You do the same thing with every single article that supports a view you disagree with, no doubt.
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@Athias
You want to help the people of Ukraine? Pick up a rifle and head to the front lines; offer Ukrainian refugees a place to stay; fly to the homes of the international bankers who sponsor global conflicts and pepper each of them up with bullets.
You don't always have to murder people to do good, there is already warfare happening on an economic level to the bankers and billionaires/millionaires that you are alluding to and it is not lethal; just financially paralysing.
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@TheUnderdog
I care about issues that effect America; not foreign countries because I'm American. It's not like people from Chile care about what's happening on the Ivory Coast.
Yeah, that's an attitude that most people who hate debating or worrying about big topics happening in the world take. Your mentality is no different to somebody who doesn't give a shit that four doors down the street, somebody was brutally murdered or abused or something. 'It's not my house, let me put this on Netflix and not worry' is okay for your emotional wellbeing, it's just not the attitude that a debate enthusiast would generally take, in my opinion.
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@Athias
As for the broader picture, things like this spread awareness and make clear who stands where. It's important to know if you're friends with somebody who is pro-imperialist-tyranny or not, I feel. I am certainly against it.
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@Athias
you're just trying to siphon some of the publicity concerning the events in Ukraine, and draw attention to yourself.
No, we're not. LOL!
That is literally impossible on this website, nobody gives a shit about some random debate art user, instead if Ukranians turn up to this website they will see it and smile as opposed to wince at the cringey shitposting of some other members in favour of a tyrannical Russia.
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@TheUnderdog
Why join a debate website if the only thing you care about is your immediate issues and what's for lunch?
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May what you wish happens to Ukraine happen to your homeland too.It already has. Corruption so bad we can't even function as a nation.
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that's nothing compared to what's happening to Ukrainians' livelihood right now, you delusional joke.
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@triangle.128k
I blocked you long ago. Nice strawman and nice avoidance of the question I asked.
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@triangle.128k
What exactly do you mean by this question? Which war specifically are you askng about?
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@triangle.128k
By political opponents you mean the Russian stooges who enabled the Crimea invasion and served Putin's agenda for many years?
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May what you wish happens to Ukraine happen to your homeland too.
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@oromagi
Okay, for me there are two distinct classifications:
- Known active manipulator of News abroad
- Known enemy of free speech within domain
Putin has been caught with #1 more than most (I reckon China does it the most and aims to prevent the Media they can influence mentioning them in a negative light). On the pther hand, you said he is the most #2 on the planet. I can think of places on Africa and Latin Ameroca, not only Middle East and Chona, where you need to watch what you say really carefully or there are potentially fatal consequences if not at least threats.
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@oromagi
Nope. Putin was a major in player in misinforming the UK about BREXIT, financing Marine Le Pen's candidacy for French President, funding neo-NAZI and skinhead organizations throughout Europe, etc all the while. Foreign government propaganda disguised as free speech is not free speech.
What is free speech then?
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@oromagi
That makes no sense at all, you are saying because he utilises free speech more than the other tyrants when it suits his agenda, he's more against it than those that don't bother with disinformation as much but oppress their own people just as fervently as Putin, if not more, within their own nation.
You are not talking about an enemy of free speech I think you mean enemy of America.
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@ILikePie5
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@Dr.Franklin
Since Chud/Wylted didn't take the bait and reply to me, I didn't get to make the reveal to him that his court example was the opposite issue of corruption to what he's making out.
Zelensky is the first Ukrainian President in a long time to not be a Russian stooge/infiltrator. He wanted to strongly investigate the previous one because he was dirty as they come. His attempts were curtailed because of corruption still present in the courts due to what he has since slowly begun to root out.
Zelensky is not corrupt, Chud is just talking out of his ass knowing fuck all about Ukraine.
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@Vader
I'll sign up only if it's AoT. I can't be fucked with some kanye discography theme.
I am fine to not sign up, it's up to you.
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@oromagi
Free Speech has no greater living enemy on this planet than Vladimir Putin.
Well, that's excluding the leaders of Middle East and China (let's not even call North Korea a genuine country, it's a hellhole posing as a legitimate nation).
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@Lunatic
I have won Round 2 through concession, I thank my opponent and look forward to the final debate.
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@sadolite
Which culture is inferior? He also strongly alluded to racial superiority/purity.
How does one measure these things?
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It's complicatedRead between the lines if you want the statementI don't even listen to niggas, I'm killing off most of these motherfuckers, digging they ditchesThis feel like I wrote it in a graveyardElevated to this level, you ain't on my radarMaking a fucking mess, I attestLet 'em rest in peace, capiche, god blessYes, you are now fucking with the bestCoast to coast, down south, east to westAssess, your situation 'fore you take a stepI'm a mad man, tell 'em I did this shit for a repConnect, with legends, I only wanted respectI'm a venomous villain, I sink fangs in your neck, yes yesI'm spitting ridiculous, I am blessedI been coming to collect, I'm like the IRS, yes godI ain't took a loss in a minute, who the fuck said that I'm finished?Running to the goal with the team on my back like [?]Y'all pussy muhfucker look timidI don't want sit with nobody on the sideline sitting, to be honest nigga I prefer winningAin't no limit how far I could take my vision, I'd die behind the shit that I'm spittingShit can get darker than Riddick, I martyr them niggasI'm looking like a god to you niggas, it's hard for you niggasThey acting like they couldn't tell the difference between the real and the imageThe minute I made a mark, I been a marksman with the penI'm in the zone, I can't be stopped and I am hoping that I offendAgain, one of the illest, I am himOver they heads, atop brimsI could give a fuck what you think, bitch I know I'm top tenDamn, let that last line sink in, I am one with the BPMHumble these menTell them niggas please calm down, I don't wanna have to hurt no clownsI am in a circus, I can hear the serpents lurkingI can snake charm with the verses, mercy, mercy, stay outta my lane no mergingKilling everything I'm purging, working, godI had to connect with the LocksmithAnd that's a Bay Area prophet[?], lyrical militia, sick of the sickest, sound like I'm viciousAin't this shit everything you envisioned?They follow a nigga like a religionHandle my business, you know what the deal isIt's a guarantee they finished
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@ebuc
Kiev is the Russian spelling and pronunciation, Kyiv is the Ukrainian one.
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I edited this from: https://www.reneweuropegroup.eu/news/2022-02-16/renew-europe-firmly-stands-with-the-people-of-ukraine-and-calls-on-the-eu-to-be-determined-and-united-in-case-of-a-russian-attack
I touched up the contrast to make it appear clearer in the format/size this website has it. Use it wherever as your image. I would like to make clear that I am not the uploader of that article and original image, in case some people are feeling doxxy.
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@Incel-chud
that sounds free actually, the courts had the power to decline the request.
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