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@Barney
If you vote BK or Ijb1 and aren't the third mafia after Wylted and Luna, you're essentially gamethrowing.
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@Lunatic
I got roleblocked so you vote the lurker who is the only role with a dead roleblocker that can realistically do this to me other than ascetic.
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I BeLiEvE Wylted he puts a PM at start of DP to warn Mafia that's tracked visiting him just to put them later.
Genius. Lunatic get an MRI scan after this if you are Town please.
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Ohhhh RM dumb lets work with noble Wylted and genius Lunatic
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@JoeBob
You're terrible at Chess... start there.
Your Rubik's PR is nearly as good as a casual hobbyist can get before they waste too much time on it.
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@JoeBob
depends on the reader, that's the beauty of it.
I don't expect you to have perspective on this. I can assure you this is something to be extremely worried about.
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@JoeBob
yeah 6 bridges is nothing, those lives meant nothing this is nothing to worry about.
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@Barney
if it's option 2, why hasn't he outed it already then? He has nothing to gian or lose either way then.
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@Barney
Wylted's perspective is simple:
- He is in the 2 not the 1 and it's about to be 1v1 instead and he is hoping it stays 2v1 and Town dies
- He is in the 1 not the 2 and wants us to help it be 1v1.
If he had another approach he'd already have outed the scum.
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@Barney
You're falling for a blatant con/scam he's saying anything he can to survive.
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@Barney
 Which as someone obsessed with optimal play over all else (to include actual fun), is weird that you would not even contemplate his offer.
I don't accept it as optimal to trust my enemy who is outnumbered to side with the majority instead of the minority that can help him temporarily, whereas we can't help him either long or short term. At all.
Use your head.
If he was narrowminded, ready to side with Town for some illusion of 'optimal' he'd have already outed it and thrown himself at our mercy which he's already at anyway.
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@FLRW
Why do you do this stuff? Her IQ is blatantly not that high.
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@ijb1
I may well be AFK when you're on.
Answer all these:
- What did you do NP1, what did you NP2?
- Is your role is unlimited or 1x etc
- What is your take on the situation rn, what reads do you have?
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@WyIted
so it doesn't violate any rules for me to help eliminate them, nor is it an issue as far as playing to my wincon is concerned because I think the move marginally improves our chances.
I agree, you aren't breaking the rules minus your bs early PM cryptography. Town negotiating with you is and I am too scared to ask Austin to clarify as he may modkill for the very negotiation discussions that already took place.
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didn't mean his own partner meant other partner of whiteflame.
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@Barney
the risk that represents is the nature of the game and what makes it fun.
To me, as a guy who is skilled at both Poker and Mafia, I can tell you I know when gambling and risk are necessary. I am also sure when you're being guided like a gullible lamb to the slaughter.
What Wylted is offering you is like 'come here and play roulette or blackjack'. Even if you can count cards and the deck is indeed not properly shuffled making it a genuine edge, you're gonna get 'modkilled' by the casino for what you do and he'll sit there laughing at you. Even if that doesn't happen, you're being guided by a guy to risk getting rid of actual Town when doing this does not in any shape at all benefit him which I kept secret as I hoped he hadn't clocked it yet but need to tel lit now.
Wylted gains absolutley nothing but helping us lynch the other scum partner this DP, he'd only gain it in future ones. He genuinely cannot possibly gain anything from it, it benefits him immensely to have the other scum player around if with his own.
If he is whiteflame's partner, his only hope is enough of us getting modkilled and vig killing other scum while he kills other, in other words he has no real win condition to hope for if we're realistic about all town except vig being modkilled.
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@Barney
You want to lynch me for stopping to talk to someone? Someone who we know has useful information. Yes, he could tell a bunch of lies, but the risk that represents is the nature of the game and what makes it fun.
Don't gaslight me, you said this:
I’m good with leaving  you around to be the last scum well, an extra day at least)I like having a flair of style and narrative to these games.
If you want to talk and put yourself at risk of modkill, do that but do not tell that you'll promise to keep him around for his style. Fuck his style, fuck my style, play to win not to remove people you don't want to have around.
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@JoeBob
After ijb is here to fully clarify 3 things and agree to who he RBs np3.
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@Best.Korea
@JoeBob
Listen to me, any post anyone makes from this point on open to negotiating an unfair Town edge that is game breaking, with Scum, is violating an explicit gamemrule Austin put there.
Whether Wylted is a genius or is accidentally doing it, you need to STOP what you're doing immediately. I knew this previous DP but shut my mouth about it hoping he'd out the scum eventually.
Wylted isn't violating the rule because he's fucked anyway.
Whether Wylted is a genius or is accidentally doing it, you need to STOP what you're doing immediately. I knew this previous DP but shut my mouth about it hoping he'd out the scum eventually.
Wylted isn't violating the rule because he's fucked anyway.
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@Barney
He sk.baitijgnwhole Town to get modkilled shitnthe fuck up right now.
I am.right, listen to me.
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@Barney
If you do that I vote you and don't rethink it. That's all I am telling you.
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@AustinL0926
@WyIted
This is why you aren't as smart as you think you are. Instead of asking "How can we get the best odds of winning" You instead say "derp, let's all do the most obvious thing because I can only think 1 level deep"
Don’t do anything else that gives you an unfair advantage, even if it’s not explicitly stated in the rules. It won’t make you clever, but it will get you modkilled.Â
I have very deep thinking, my G.
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Everything includes townreading Lunatic DP1 and saying his role.is towniest seeming dp2.
Which I agree I can be wrong on.
Everything includes getting guilty on whiteflame, pure luck, talking a hard GTer out of selfing via diplomacy and being the sole Towny other than the GTer voting scum DP1.
Wrong is challenging Wylted as real Cop instantly for claiming he had daycop capacity.
Wrong wrong wrong.
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@Lunatic
RM hasn't been wrong on everything this game,
Everything. Yes.
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@WyIted
Keep thinking that. I destroy you by 1 level thinking every mafia game were enemies somehow.
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@AustinL0926
Pie must be able to for a short burst but I understand.
If Ijb wasn't RNGd due to inactivity then we still have a lot to ask.
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@AustinL0926
Is there a way to get ijb active? We need him to clarify a couple things and to promise he can be active to not RNG his power the next NP
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@Best.Korea
GP may survive shot, it's possible. We don't know how defensive mafia themselves are set up since Town is also very defensive.
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@JoeBob
There is no rational reason to unless you and GP are both scum. Reason being this NP BK realises he is motivated and shoots GP no matter what.
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@JoeBob
It's likely that no Town will reply it's okay to Wylted for his first comment but GP in a scum mindset felt he can pass it off as that.
What GP was potentially (if not probably) saying is he is the other scum, the one Wylted is threatening and saying 'we good bruh, trust' in essence.
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Lmao... GP basically confessed to being scum by what he replied at the start of this
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It has a big knife/sword as it's main weapon so I thought of it as a shredder
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@Barney
Also take note that Lunatic if scum probably made up his fakeclaim instead of using what was given which adds up if Wylted used JOAT and had genuinely miller a option 2.
Witchdoctor has only its name. Only. As the connection to the role. No other claim has said Austin did anything except use something about the bot's playstyle as the reason except for ME.
In my case it was as Shredder disrupted a match to force an investigation into their opponents tinkering with the bot post weigh-in pre match. Bots have to meet strict weight equivalence for matches to be fair or something.
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@WyIted
You know we can just lie to you to make you out the other scum right?
Idgaf what you out I'm voting you.
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@Barney
I'll go into this later if you need me to dig to every single DP2 post link to.back it up (some wee multiple to establish different things about claims).
Luna Luna Antitown Tuna
Lunatic has claimed doc. He has said he's unlimited and for absolutely no reason he could justify waived NP1. He then insulted me with a lot of ad hominem when I pressed on the fact it makes no sense even with factional armour to do that even though it's true it probably wasn't needed.
Due to him doing that it ended up a BIG issue as Vader whow as inactive all NP1 is claimed by you as replacement to have replaced in to have been RNGd by Austin to track Lunatic. If this had tracked him saving someone and they not being roleblocked things would be clearer now how to draw team lines etc.
BK the BP Batman Badman Boy
His claim is his role couldn't kill NP1. He had to activate it similar to how we now see Whiteflame.had to charge up a kill target. After activating his power, the next NP he has both BP vest and Vig power for that night only.
Joebob nothing funny to say
1x motivator that if he doesntotivate a limited role, Austin confirmed would (if real) give an unlimited power role 2x the next NP.
Austin also told us this DP that we'd not know until the next DP or for BK this NP coming now, whether the NP2 motivating happened or not.
GP the Gangsta Gorilla with a Gory Gash.
The beast is yet to bleed or maybe already is.
Barney the Doped up Dinosaur
In the middle of all this we have you. Tracker, unlimited which seems to contradict me as unlimited cop.
You have dumbtold and scumtell so much since your return it's insane. Pay attention.
What happened NP2 though?
I think the jailer being RNGd to me saved me from Luna and Wylted killing me.
I think the partner of WF is Joebob or GP.
Ijb1 the absentee jailkeeper
What he did NP1 nobody knows, if he is 1x or unlimited nobody knows. He ignored me asking this despite being online to clarifyultiple time but has to be Town unless he's ascetic as I got no result despite a dead roleblocker, while investigating him.
A jailkeeper saves while roleblocking making tracker and cop both being in Town viable and balanced if Doc is fake.
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@Barney
@Best.Korea
@BK
I'm saying you are Town other than if Barney is also scum that's essentially 100% the case rn.
@Barney
I need time because I am doing other things. Meanwhile please very carefully read the game's DP2. You can skim read DP1 but read DP2 in detail. You have not grasped a lot about the game's factional protection or BK's claim.
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@Best.Korea
You're either scum with Barney or you and Barney are both scum on opposite teams.
No other combination at all where you are scum works due to his NP2 finding
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@Barney
Are you willing to read paragraphs of information from me, yes or no
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@JoeBob
Don't answer Barney until.he unvotes this isn't ok
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