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Wylted, please unblock me and PM me. There is something very important I'd like to discuss.
This is 100% important, PM me if you feel like it, come with an open mind. 
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Some observations regarding debates on DebateArt
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@949havoc
how did I attack your identity
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Systemic Racism in U.S. criminal justice is a myth
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@drlebronski
what the fuck does Mesmer even mean, where I live and getting necklaced, that's implied doxxing and also totally ridiculous all at once as nowhere does someone get hung for not being a black supremacist.
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Systemic Racism in U.S. criminal justice is a myth
It's amazing to me how all your posts get 1 like the instant that you post them, by the way Mesmer. It would be interesting if by some miracle I was wrong and you had a hardcore fan. 

Now that I said this though, you possibly will go back in time and unlike some to remove the proof xD
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Vote RM for President of DART
Okay, I am asking mods to shut this thread down, there's serious allegations here and I will disclose any and everything to them, in private. 

What I will say is I did neither of those things on DDO.

There is one time, one instance that happened on facebook by another user on facebook sending me severe abuse encouraging me to kill myself with other insults attached. I don't want to go further into it. That user had already revealed who they were to everyone on DDO, for the record and what happened, happened on facebook. It has since been 100% dealt with. That user was not who Mesmer is, in fact that user and Mesmer have their own beef.

I am not going to take any bait here, this is beyond serious now and I want to tell you that I obeyed the law while using DDO.

I am willing to entirely drop out surrounding these allegations, my actual legal status is at risk here, I did not ever DDOS, ever.
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@drlebronski
You're welcome to. I'm not even keen on running if this is the kind of stuff that's allowed here. Why is Mesmer digging into my past and even lying while being unwilling to reveal the honest past of his/her/theirself? I'm just curious, that's all.

This is not stuff I'm keen on perpetuating as it has actual criminal implications and is actual 100% libel and defamation.
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Vote RM for President of DART
You are talking about my past with false allegations. I am done replying to you but don't accuse me of criminal things. If you wish to talk of my past, people should know of yours too yes? That is what I asked you. I didn't threaten, I asked you about hypocrisy here.
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Vote RM for President of DART
I did not threaten to dox you, who you used to be means usernames on this website alone that you went by. None of which lead to your identity unless there's something I don't know about.
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@drlebronski
Don't take the bait too much, but yeah, Wylted's views are a bit worrying if that's a president of this website.

I'm not going to react much more than necessary to Mesmer, Wylted or anyone whose sole purpose is to get a rise out of me here. 
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Vote RM for President of DART
He's so thin-skinned that if you give back what he dishes out, he cries and reports you -- not a trait you want for a prez.
I call you a racist, far-right troll. If that is something that is too much for you to take, it is you who is thin-skinned. I can objectively prove every aspect of me calling you that, correct, you call me things like 'little boy' and 'worst post in the thread' and other such things solely to aggravate and get a rise out of me. You do that to plenty of users, being as offensive and aggravating as you feel that you can get away with. If you are going to pretend our motives and frequency of such things are the same, then so be it.
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Vote RM for President of DART
 start doxxing and DDOSing people again (just like he did on DDO).
I never ever DDOS'd, you can keep trying to bring up this 'past devil' argument about me but when you make criminal charges it's rather different.

If you are going to dig up my past, I should let everyone here know who you used to be too right? 

I will just let your lies stay there but I'm not gonna take a criminal charge. 
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Vote RM for President of DART
Ragnar's favorite rhetoric tactic was to say RM did you make this post that RM made? oh look at me, I am so clever hehehehe it got childish and tiring to even bother addressing. 

I took my ban, came back and have since been reserved with my contributions, understanding that the first excuse these guys get they'll ban me. That's not how I want any other user to feel, I will make sure of it if I'm the President.
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Vote RM for President of DART
To make it worse for them, DuhHamburgler (Mikal), Lunatic (TUF), Seldiora (now Gugigor) and all others they accused me of having harassed claimed to be anti-my-ban saying they didn't feel harassed by me in any way that could justify a ban. The mods had to desperately silence, sidetrack and avoid the gaping hole in their case against me, pointing out that I owed them for reducing my ban sentence to 6-weeks, having been banned for the 'harassment' of members who vehemently opposed my ban and called it abusive moderation.
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@ILikePie5
In my six-week ban it in fact was above 90% ex post facto, they had to do that after I destroyed all the justifications they brought post-facto of the David+Ragnar moderation era's beginning by solid reasoning and post-by-post addressing. They specifically had to dig deep into the past of me and Ramshutu to find a post that remotely could justify the ban which I had already gotten banned for 2 weeks for during Bsh1's era.
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School systems should include LBTQ+ topics in their history and sex education
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@Theweakeredge
You reply to them, the error is yours. They say intentionally rude and nonsensical stuff to make you bite and then like a fish on a hook, the harder you bite the more you suffer.

Let go, let the worm be.

Everyone who is even slightly sane can see a severe difference between pedophilia and homosexuality between consenting adults.
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Vote RM for President of DART
I am still going to run, I want to be disqualified as a majority winner if it's the case. I encourage everyone who supports me to vote me, regardless of eligibility, and to state explicitly in the vote when making it for an eligible candidate that they'd vote for me instead if they could. It has to be proven objectively that I was robbed, if I was robbed.


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You may not qualify either. I was gone so did not track your bans
It makes you wonder what this 'clean slate' promise that they make each iteration even means, they never stick by it.

The only way they justified my wrong ban was to dig into the past before the other iteration that also promise clean-slate, which even then was twisted and still had outright lies and ignored context.
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@drlebronski
One of the first permanently banned users here. In terms of why he got banned, it was a justified reasoning and he went way overboard in his final days. I was saying out of the permanently banned, he's one of the only ones I feel had positives that could justify unbanning him, so as to show what I may consider overturning as President here.

At the moment, the users who were wrongly banned are all currently unbanned and still around or left the site for good despite being unbanned.
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Good music
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@zedvictor4
What is a 'typical tune' and how does progressive rock not have typical commonalities in its genre?
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Vote RM for President of DART
It is what it is, if they dismiss us based on that, it's a cowardly move. So, whatever happens I don't care either way. I was asked to try to run by another user here and I'm happy to do so. If I'm disqualified for an unjust ban, I'll support whoever I feel best can help the userbase in my exclusion.
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@drlebronski
I am not keen on giving this far-right propaganda a platform here and I know that the supporters of it will happily vote on said debate, so it depends who the audience is but if enough want it I'll take a debate on a very specific sub-topic within it, or else Mesmer can just gish gallop a ton of things forcing me to have to prove systemic racism across 10 different angles and subsets within it, so to speak, which is difficult effort-wise and character limit wise and frankly reading the stuff Mesmer writes genuinely angers me, I minimise my exposure to it by not even opening most of the threads.
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Vote RM for President of DART
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@drlebronski
For what reasons?

Thanks for your support. I'd appreciate reasons why you'd vote me and what it depends on, clarity helps voters decide, even ones who already support.
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Systemic Racism in U.S. criminal justice is a myth
Congratulations. You've made the worst post so far on this thread.
From you, that's a compliment. You are a toxic user with a blatantly racist and far-right agenda here, I don't really need to worry how you see me. You thinking ill of me, on balance, is probably a good thing considering what you think is good is consistently evil.

As for the proof you say I lack, it's out there and I already know each thing I post you won't address or consider, you'll just dismiss but for others reading this who are interested where to start, it's safe to ignore the entire OP that I was accused of ignoring, but waste your time reading it if you must.

Instead, there's basically a ton of documentaries and stuff to digest the information from, far more than I am compiling here, I'm just giving you starting points.


^ an unbiased documenting of active policy changes and rule changes that BLM and allied movements have caused the change of (so that it's less racist now than it used to be, not negating what it originally was and definitely not leaving the entire thing as a myth even today).

^What's great about this is that it links to other sources and articles on the matter all of which are valid reads in their own right, making it an incredible starting point.

Start with those three and everything they link you to, then PM me if you're genuinely interested in the subject. It's best not to engage with far-right trolls here on the matter, they will just drag you down and wind you up.
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Vote RM for President of DART
And you need to change my username into a broken down rat man to diss it.

Wylted is pronounced the exact same as wilted. Don't even need to try. Shame really.
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Vote RM for President of DART
Alright, nice toxicity guys lmao?

I made only one, Wylted already made his thread so that rule enforcement is easily going to backfire on him. 
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Vote RM for President of DART
I am aware I voted no to the Presidency thing. I understand how this looks but ultimately if it exists I am all for trying. I never once made a secret of my ambitions to be a moderator here, yet I accept that both due to aggression I had to a couple of users here early on and due to me being a social outcast amongst the 'clique' who are moderators, I'll never be one for the foreseeable future.

So, I want you to know what I can and will do for you if you put me in the president position and explain why I am better than almost anyone else who will run for it.

Defense Attorney Guarantee
I absolutely promise you that no matter what Chris, Supa, Ragnar, David or whoever does to gaslight or silence you if/when a ban heads your way and you speak harshly against it, I will both personally represent your case to them even if I disagree with you and think you earned your ban as well as to create a thread myself that they won't dare to close, about your ban for the community to discuss in.

To prove to you that I represented you, I will post captions from our conversations regarding your moderation to a thread I create after the verdict is finally given or they ignore me completely.


Politics/Religion and Bias worries

I identify as left-wing and religiously you could call me agnostic but really I have my own theory that is close to Taoist philosophy in its conclusions and the way I go about life.

I can't promise you that I am going to be completely immune of bias in terms of caring as much if someone who agrees with me is censored vs someone espousing views I disagree with and I think any other candidate who promises you that is not self-aware. 

What I can promise you is unless you have been particularly nasty to me personally, I'll unblock you and hear out why your particular censored content is wrongly treated that way. 

In cases of harassment and two-way bullying, I have never and will never just instantly say the left-wing person or less religious person is in the right. To me, BrotherDThomas is a much bigger issue to the website community than Ethang5 despite the former blatantly being an atheist troll guised as a Christian and the latter being an unabashed Conservative Christian.

I know what bias is and am aware I have it but I will do everything in my conscious power to correct it. If and when it does happen, I am open to criticism, it will be something I'll need to prove doubters wrong on. I'm not immune to it, I accept it.

My agenda

My primary agenda is to make DART more of a website I'm not ashamed to show off to my family and IRL friends or whatever. As it is now, it's bit of a cringey trollfest in many departments and it's not as much an issue that the trolls are active as it is that I feel not enough special events like debate tournaments and actual worthwhile threads are created and contributed to.

I am going to heavily ensure if someone is baited by trolls to overreact and then gets banned that such user doesn't need to operate here totally afraid and instead ensure that the mods see who the provoking member was and to put into context each post.

I also want to give tips and advise to users in situations that I, as an ordinary user, perhaps never get to hear about or see in a combination of private and public clashes. As you know, I support using the block function much more readily and without the shame that most do. I'd always advise that as a default but I am quite good at seeing situations from both sides and would give tailored advice to any user who is feeling targeted and doesnt know how to handle it without lashing out and who feels the mods don't care.

I want this website to be a pleasure, a website you open every other day excited to see what's being posted rather than worry which nuisance has posted and made you not bother to use the site anymore due to. Those who don't know what I am referring to or how it can be achieved without censorship are welcome to vote against me. Those who want to see if I live by my word, should vote for me and see.

I am not going to cower to Chris, Supa, Ragnar or any of them. I am my own person and my agenda is entirely independent of whatever their clique may approve or or laugh into silence. Whatever you want for the website or to get heard in your defebse, let me know. If you're banned and feel nobody heard your case out, I'm not entirely sure what to do yet as I am not keen to give an email nor would I regularly check one but eventually off-site communication can be arranged. At the moment the presently banned seem to all be severe cases. The only one I think actually could be overturned would be Type1 but that's without knowing when he'd next go wild. When he tries, he's an extremely active and entertaining member. When he doesn't try, he becomes toxic and stupid and I do think personally that he knows that but anyway, the rest I'm not sure about. They all seem legitimate permabans.
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What makes religion not a philosophy, and vice versa
It is the religious right-wing that invented censorship and fake news both.

You new age ones hate everything you inspired just because the irreligious Left learned to wield it for better reasons and in better ways than you.

Unlike your fake news, the Left don't directly lie in theirs. 
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@949havoc
If I make a new user account, don't ask mods to shut my old one down and pretend I'm a different age, there are issues regarding integrity and rule obedience.

I don't care either way, do what you want. I just noticed. Eventually, you'll have to close one of your accounts.
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A flawed voting system
The problem is with the intellectual capability of most voters and even mods of said vote but I won't say more so as not to be accused of insulting too harsh.

In reality, there's a pretty objective winner in most debates if one is intelligent enough to analyse the chains of interconnected logic and facts. Unfortunately, very few are capable of objectively seeing that. I slowly am learning to take advantage of this though and focusing less on genuinely winning and more on appealing to what voters think equals winning (which takes a lot of trial and error as well as observation).
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@949havoc
I can tell a lot about a person even from an online persona. If you can't, that's just lack in ability.
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Systemic Racism in U.S. criminal justice is a myth
Systemic racism in a justice system isn't only arrest rates.

It's both the complete disparity in opportunities some races have in society to escape poverty and a crime-filled environment through to the sentencing some ethnicities receive vs others for the exact same crime. 

Then, it's how both get treated and protected or neglected by COs post-arrest (which can onclude how readily vs hesitantly they're rewarded and reduced sentence for good behavior).


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MEEP: Reformed ban policy & DebateArt President
Fantastic MEEP, loved the pre-MEEP phase thread, where we got to suggest changes to it before voting on it.

It didn't exist, but I enjoyed it.
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MEEP: Reformed ban policy & DebateArt President
Yeah put your libel against me in the help center. That seems great.

Change my vote to three to yes.
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MEEP: Reformed ban policy & DebateArt President
Change my vote on 2 to yes if that changes something lmao.
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MEEP: Reformed ban policy & DebateArt President
So where do I run for president?

This thread? You ready to vote for me, guys?
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OH MY FUCKING GOD, GET THE FUCKING VACCINE ALREADY, YOU FUCKING FUCKS
I'll bet Israel getting the Pfizer vaccines first fed in to the vast Jewish conspiracy thing.

They were not first. UK was first. Yep, UK made AstraZeneca but also were first to use pfizer before they'd finished AZ. Israel were fast to follow.
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@n8nrgmi
The unique thing about censoring Holocaust Denial, in terms of how to justify it is that when someone says something like:
but if a person is reasonable, the truth prevails. all we can do is hope the majority follows the truth.... and i think human nature is such that the truth tends to prevail when it matters most. 
You can point out that in no shape or form were the brains of Germans during Hitler's rise drastically different to the rest of the species, meaning that they were humans with extremely similar average capacity to reason as all other human cultures. Instead, the variable that caused the utter catastrophe that followed was the variable that we have to stamp out interacting with said average/constant.

Think scientifically about it, come back to me when it hits home.
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MEEP: Reformed ban policy & DebateArt President
I apologised to Mikal as it later seems that I had been mistaken about his financial situation years ago and as a result was also therefore very wrong about bluesteel.

This was cleared up. Mikal didn't even want me banned. I was surprised. So who is it I harassed?
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MEEP: Reformed ban policy & DebateArt President
Type1 was a weird dude who was/is actually someone who resented me. We had a rivalry elsewhere and I felt he'd be fun to have here. It's that simple. 

I was wrong in the long run, he proved to be incapable of disciplining himself. That doesn't mean I arranged off-site for his bursts of multiaccounting. I am the reason the mods caught him so fast each time.
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@whiteflame
The harm in 3 is the lies but also alternatively what is the point of a clean slate promise from the new mods when all they do is dig up old lies from former mods and wave them in front of us?

I didn't multiaccount. I didn't arrange any cheating with Type1.

I am accused of doxxing because I said I knew a clique of girls (which are mainly men in a mafia discord server) are braiding each other's hair and getting manicures.

I didn't harass in a serial or targeted manner. Seldiora and Mikal both backed me up on that, the latter to my surprise.

It's a series of defamation. I was wrongly banned, literally.
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Atheists are no longer welcome here
Even as a joke, this shows which of us censors for the correct vs incorrect reasons.
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MEEP: Reformed ban policy & DebateArt President
Because David was terrible at his job, half of the banned user list is just is just libel anyway. 
Ragnar committed the libel against me but yes 100%

The multi-accounting and doxxing is just straight up defamation, I never did either on DART, point blank period.. 'Targetted harassment' is such a bullcrap thing, when did I serial-target people in a harassing manner, look at their examples. Look at them.

I want to bring it up again and prove how Ragnar can't defend a single point but I've learned to let go.
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MEEP: Reformed ban policy & DebateArt President
The banned user list is a terrible idea to showcase.
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@Vader
@MisterChris
Please self-veto #3 and run a separate thread or meep on the separate parts within it. 

I am asking you because you never ran thiseep by us, this slipped that step. You did not follow the procedure.
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Drlebronski AMA
Why do you say that I am typically a douchebag here? Be as specific as you want but not as offensive as you want, there's a difference. I want to understand, not be roasted.
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@3RU7AL
If you're too weak-minded to even back the conclusion that the Holocaust happened, you're not somebody who can sit there calling me a coward if I just click the exit button on this conversation right now.
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@3RU7AL
Did the Holocaust happen or not? Answer the question.
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@3RU7AL
It was the only example in the discussion we had. You're the one broadening to absolutism here.
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@3RU7AL
I quoted precisely where I expanded on the reasons.

The Holocaust happening is the epitome of why Fascism is toxic and why enabling 'fake news' (it was a term way before Trump used it) is detrimental to us all firstly as individuals (we waste time and energy battling the lies, slipping up at times and buying into them) and secondly as a society if said lies are solely associated with a devastating agenda.

There is absolutely no reason to deny the Holocaust. None. Not one. I am someone who researched flat earth theory, 9/11 being an inside job etc I do not dismiss conspiracy theories for being conspiracy theories, I approach always with an open mind.

The case for Holocaust denial is only ever propagated by white supremacists who have never seen or understood the irrefutable evidence involved. There is literally everything; bodies, diary accounts, records, photos, several independent testimonies all 100% adding up chronologically. There is not one single iota of basis for the denial. I know there isn't. I guarantee you there isn't. 

The only thing it has is 'but what if'. The only agenda behind it is to push forth Neonazi, pro-fascist ideology. There isn't any other motive at all and as I said, if somehow that wasn't the motive of a certain duped ignoramus who believes in it, then they are living proof that it can spread to minds like a virus and needs to be stamped out.
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@3RU7AL
What is the discussion? Did the Holocaust happen or not? Don't cherrypick and sidetrack. Stick to the discussion and pick your side.
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