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To be clear, I townread supa for his reactions today, it's why I begged him to unvote to discuss matters.
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@Bullish
He hammered supa not me. Let's end this in the night phase.
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@Crocodile
You can't unvote you hammered supa but I think you're scum as you never self-visited tonprove you're a watcher.
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@Barney
There are many problems with the very structure of a debating website. To begin with, most human beings dislike interacting in an environment where everyone is arguing (obviously). This alone means no matter how well it's done, the website will forever remain unpopular vs almost any other forum of its tier.
The other problem is that due to the anonymity of the users and thus 'worthlessness' of achievements (but not monetarily I mean even for glory for you as a person IRL) the kind of things you engage in 1v1 debates involve so much wasted effort and often saying stuff you don't really believe just to scrape out points (I am unique because I simply pivot BoP if I'm vs an opponent who slipped up so I rarely have to flesh out points I don't agree with just to 'win' but even then I have had debates that represent points of view I don't personally feel proud to show off nor the content of my opponent... to people I know IRL).
This kind of 'competitive environment' is one where we are seriously a select few humans out of a select few humans who even give enough of a shit about our Rating/Ranking to even begin to fathom discussing which medals matter.
I will always be that weirdo though and in life, for me at least, it helped me structure what was otherwise a chaotic ball of energetic and fruitless motivation. Rather than just be angry with the world, I became angry with myself to failing to understand why I was failing to compete in the world, in a website and anything. I am what I am and apply myself uniquely to an environment to excel in ways literally no one except me can.
This is something I am proud of even if the 'achievements gained' are worthless to all (including me). It's about mastering strategy in and of itself and applying myself and my unique tactics, it's something I enjoy and will do to the very day I die (and beyond, depending on how much of this persona remains in the afterlife).
I am not win-addicted, I am addicted instead to understanding the mechanics by which winners vs losers in any given environment are decided. Once understood, I don't mind being a loser anymore. I am more INTP than INTJ and that will always be the case, I am sure. The J has increased with age though and I certainly apply myself better than I did in my lazier times.
To me 'laziness' is an illusion by the way, lazy people are merely people who passionately dedicate themselves to avoiding what needs to be done. INTPs are often extremely hard-working inside their heads, it's just that they fail to apply it to anything that (as zedvictor says) 'matters'.
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@Vader
In all seriousness he's not super bad for a mumble rapper, he is basically a rendition of what Lil Xan was when he began and he looks a bit like Justin Bieber which itself can get memes going and get his videos views.
What I am confused about is that your former favourite artist was Kanye West... While I don't approve of calling him GOAT, he is definitely superior to this LAROI guy at rapping and producing (both).
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@Vader
You are just typing nonsense like he's 'unmatched in any way'. Naruto was a freak of nature almost entirely due to the nine-tailed fox. He himself is just another Ninja on an elitist bloodline that was known for fast and brutal moves and which had extreme influence in Konoha (the Uzumakis). Sure, his childhood was tough to a degree but in other ways it was the opposite of shit because he had people who severely admired and shielded him due precisely to both what was stored inside him and who his father was.
He got to brag, boast say "I will be Hokage" over and over and it came true because he has more plot armour than any character ever seen in Animes. If you actually analyse how many people were after him from so many different angles, he should have kept a low profile and become a rogue ninja of sorts but he was enabled to be famous and influential despite the entire Akatsuki (excluding Itachi who probably would have defended Naruto), Orochimaru, Ōtsutsuki Clan and many others being completely after him and resenting him. Naruto is forced to be the one you root for because you only get to appreciate friendship and tearing apart of friendships when it revolves around him. When he strikes a motherfucker down with a rasengan, you're obligated to go 'they deserved it and this is not a tragedy' because the storyling blackmails you to if you want to keep enjoying it.
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To be honest this loss is 99% on Bearman who unnecessarily threw a near-autowin scenario I had planned. Once Bearman confirmed you as visiting me, we still would have lynched him but Press would have been far townier and we'd also have revealed cards and done other things. the reason we rushed the day is he voted himself and gave up so we assumed he was gamethrowing mafia but he was gamethrowing town.
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Therefore both of you could pass my track-test thanks to your 2 pair.
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@Vader
I am just going to laugh in the game over when both you and and pie get humbled.
That is assuming that you're town with me, though. For all I know you're mafia and here is why:
Mafia clearly get a power with 2 pair that allows them to visit without roleblocking (unless crocodile was roleblocked).
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@Vader
If you unvote me, I'll unvote you. Crocodile will get online any time now and it's doomed for us if he's the mafia.
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@Vader
PoE is why my vote is on you, you never eliminated me as potential town and don't have the slightest clue what deductive reasoning even is.
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@Vader
No it isn't funny and the omgus makes perfect sense. Either I am hammered by mafia or Crocodile is the town with me and you are the mafia. Since you are dedicated for several hours up until that vote I gave, to not unvote me, it follows that my only logical move is to VTL you as it changes nothing about my odds of winning.
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@MisterChris
Right-Wing ethos is Darwinian but in practise, right-wing conservatism never ends up being Darwinian, as nepotism stagnates competition within a generation or two. This is why the Uchiha lost completely in the end, they kept preying on each other too much.
While I see right-wing libertarianism as better at competing, I by no means advocate it all that much since it's a lie. If you're not sharing and caring, then only the strong/smart/fast/cunning survive.
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@MisterChris
That makes sense actually, the Uzumakis embody right-wing Libertarianism whereas the Uchihas embody right-wing Convervatism. I would say the the left-wing characters are tossed aside as 'support characters' and 'inferior bloodlines' a lot of the time. For instance, Hinata's group within Hyūga are more left-wing and seen as weaker as well (irrationally so).
The entire show has a right-wing bias but I enjoy it regardless because it is very deep compared to almost any anime at all out there. Danzō is in a way brutal left-wing Conservatism but that again goes along with their bias against left-wing and incorrect portrayal of it. Ninja are, in general, extremely right-wing in their ethos since it's 'only the strongest, fastest and most cunning survive and thrive' mentality that defines their culture. They can be very left-wing within their clan though and Sakura is an example of that but she wasn't raised as a ninja. I would say that Team Gai (despite having Neji on them) were a very good example of 'left wing ethos' in both how they fought together by pushing the workload onto their teammates in very efficient shared reliance on one another as well as that despite Rock Lee blatantly being his favourite, he refused to ever go easier on Lee based on that. The original Team Kakashi was very unfairly right-wing in their ethos but once Sai replaced Sasuke it changed fast and Naruto learned a lot about not taking all the limelight and working 'together' not just 'with others out of necessity' which is the core difference between left-wing and right-wing ethos.
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@Crocodile
When you come, if you are town, to not insta-hammer me (I am town too). Wait to talk. The only reason I've given you two-way hammer here is if you are mafia I want you to have no idea the strength of either of our hands and also because clearly the only way I can 'truly win' at this point is if you're town so gambling on the scenario that you're mafia and won't lynch me is a scenario that's pointless for me to not vote Supadudz in since I have no idea if his hand is good or not vs yours and this is me going all-in hoping you're town more than anything else.
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Since Supadudz is totally and utterly unwilling to reason with me and I will lose anyway if he's town once Crocodile comes online as I'll get hammered, I have no reason left to not return it this many hours later.
VTL Supadudz
The only reason this is in any way optimal is to mask the strength of hands from the mafia who may hammer as town still can win if they have the better hand at night.
Good luck Croc if you're mafia.
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I actually townread how hard Supa pushed on me here and him having 2 visits makes me think that Mafia have some kind of role investigating role rather than a watching role that doesn't roleblock the person they visit potentially and lets them appear towny to a tracker.
So, I legitimately think at this point that Croc bussed Oromagi that night and that this is game over since Supadudz is too stubborn to unvote and discuss.
If I am wrong, I will be pleasantly surprised.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Btw, Kakashi is basically everyone's top 10 solid character no matter what. You can't claim sole fandom of him.
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@Crocodile
When you are online DO NOT HAMMER ME (if you are town if not ggwp) we have a lot to discuss. I know you scumread me, you strongly implied this the day before.
When you are ready to interrogate me, let me know. I will pass with flying colours.
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@Bullish
No. If Supa is town he needs to feel shit for each and every one he ignored.
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I will wait to be hammered then, if Croc is mafia. Hope town gets the NK
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@Vader
Are you not desperate? We had two free mislynches and are now only able to win thanks to mafia not having double NK or double vote. Of course they'd still need to have the stronger hand the next night.
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@Vader
As Madia I'd neevr need to panic this hard, I'd focus on appealing to crocodile and frame you well.
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@Vader
If you were town here why would you vote me and readily hand hammer over before you're sure?
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You are so bad at this game even if you are scum. I made a beautiful chain-event scheme the day before. Why would I do it as scum? How can I track two nights in a row as scum? You think they have scout role so readily available to feign as trackerm
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@Vader
You're acting with a thug mentality here: hit first ask questions later. This is short-sighted and a result of the mumble rap you fill your head with.
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Okay, you don't want to?
Let's go.
Crocodile come and let's reason. Supadudz has had many slips. Refusing to rethink this is one of them.
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@Crocodile
If you're town and arrive when I'm offline, do not hammer. I have a strong case if you will listen. If you were roleblocked last night it was Supa who did it.
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@Vader
UNVOTE OR YOU ARE SCUM THERE IS NO FUCKING REASON TO DO IT UNLESS YOU WANT RISK CROC HAMMERING ME BEFORE YOU HAVE CHANGED YOUR MIND
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@Vader
You watched croc, I can't be lookout who found out via that
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@Vader
Unvote please unvote unvote just fucking please unvote so we can talk
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@Vader
How did I track your visits and Crocs too? Do you think Mafia has a scout role that I got twice?
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@Vader
Unvote so that we can talk, there's no reason to vtl yet.
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@Vader
Please unvote so we can talk without fear of hammer
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