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@Vader
Can 8 include songs where the Coachella artist is Ft. and significant to the song but not the predominant artist?
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@warren42
both of your examples have a colour in the title
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@Vader
Does 8 mean that the song was also performed in 2015?
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@Vader
Country isn't tone deaf compared to the mumble rap you love. ;)
Please host this, I'll impress you.
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@Barney
You keep taking this personal, it is not personal. There is beef but it's between Oromagi and me. You are meant to an unbiased arbiter of the rules, you let him get free wins vs banned users but I can't just because I'm smarter/better at spotting them for you. You don't even understand how much you favour him but that doesn't matter because at least you have the guts to favour him, Virtuoso has been silent this whole time hiding behind you, that's a coward-move from a head mod to do to their vice/deputy.
You are not the issue, the fact Mafia games aren't moderated strongly by default is a major issue.
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@Vader
@warren42
He definitely told half-truths about his taste. Based on what he told us, your Greek song should have been far too autotuned and Pop for his palette. I'm not complaining, I would use this information in a rematch.
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I am proud of my selection. The one hit wonder pick by me was definitely a intentional 'just pick the one most won't pick' attempt. I wanted to have zero replication-picks even with me outing mine first and picked what I found beautiful but would match your taste. I disagree a lot with your comment on 'who let the dogs out', it has more lyricism and effort+passion than a lot of catchy tracks, let alone one hit wonders. It's probably because of the severe accent and slang that you think they are just saying nonsense, that's a language barrier and that's what's so amazing about it. They made that song to be a Carribean-only hit, it ended up an international one. It's the epitome of one-hit wonder, they weren't trying to make big bad hits.
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@Barney
He hasn't even genuinely said sorry or posted on any of the threads relating to the issue. Why is that?
The most he said is some artificial 'I want the ratman to feel welcome' speech in the mafia game, which was hardly a heartfelt apology.
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@Barney
What's the problem with my comprehension. :) That your verb 'soft warn' was BS and really you patted him on the back and giggled along with what he said? Na, I got no comprehension issue. I've seen you come down harder on Stephen and Disgusted for less severe things. Oromagi should be hard-warned, no soft anything.
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@Barney
Why do you think he's your friend? Tell me, I want to understand.
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@Barney
Want me to quote myself retorting you in the main subforums thread?
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@warren42
I like him but his negative 'vibe' and stuff isn't entirely my taste.
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@warren42
I like indie bands like The Killers too, it's just that I felt I couldn't go ahead and lie to you or do wrong by Chris Webby to deny he's up there as my fave. There's another rapper I hold equal or even superior to Webby but Webby is my fave even as a person so yeah.
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The favourite artist one was unfair. If I'd been a metalhead or edm fanboy, I'd have lost even harder to your taste.
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@fauxlaw
Haha I'll address this pack of lies later.
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@Vader
Just because I was a victim, doesn't make this about me. What happened is an example of a systemic issue.
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@Vader
This isn't about me, Speedrace has been bullied brutally by Wylted and I've been informed that this was treated leniently. I know this because it was me who reported Wylted/Singularity's posts as I was reading mafia to think 'should I get into this game?' and the first thread I saw had Wylted/Singularity being unbelievably racist towards Speedrace making disgusting racist jokes. I had no idea until this recent incident that he wasn't sufficiently punished for it.
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@Vader
If you believe that's abuse, you are not mentally strong.
If you don't believe that gang-bullying andverbally harassing a user who is simply in a game to have fun and play well is abuse, you are mentally broken and refusing to get therapy rather than they themselves being 'weak' for feeling unhappy about it. Bullying is not okay, stop victim-blaming.
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@n8nrgmi
I respect the Illuminati for what it is; kingpin in the world's ecosystem of gangster politics and economics.
In other words, I love Bill Gates, Go Microsoft boo Linux!
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@Intelligence_06
He's saying it's really hot where he is, at that time. The reference is to RPGs where random exceptional events can often unlock achievements for you being present during them.
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@sadolite
When they say a Virus is airborne, they dont truly mean that, they mean that spit particles via the air can spread it. When a virus is declared waterborne, it simply means that it has a much lower capacity to thrive in tiny amounts of spit but has just as much potency when in large bodies of water.
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If you're in a situation where you're too busy and too worried about about what your opponent will say back to you, just forfeit the Round (it is more optimal, the shorter that the character count is but only if it's above 2k since if it's below 2k it's also not optimal to do).
For medium-character-limit debates where the opponent feels as if they aren't going to try too hard if you forfeit, you are better off sacrificing the Conduct point (which is only 1 vs the 3 points that arguments give) to disarm them. They won't fight back hard enough the next Round unless they are a true 'blood, sweat and tears' type of debater but you need to size your opponent up and know which one to do this with vs not.
More often than not they subsconsciously react to your forfeit with 'extend all arguments' or basically 'ah, let's see if he/she says something next Round' rather than using the extra Round to a fuller extent, expanding their points. They rarely go 'oh it's RM, he may actually turn up in a later Round and win'.
Of course, this only works for a while, eventually opponents will pick up on what you're doing but it's a 'cycle' because even if they know you do it, they can't feel the urge to put in the work for what they perceive as a free win.
This is most effective when you've noticed a flaw in the opponent's Round 1 or 2 and they (not you, they) have 2 further Rounds remaining (at least). What you want to do is forfeit so that they don't have an extra Round to bolster their case against your fatal attack to it. If you give them an extra Round of typing and reaction, you only make life harder for yourself. If they have only 1 Round left, point out the flaw so that voters don't accuse you of bringing it too late for the opponent to react, that can backfire.
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@sadolite
They filter the spit. Do you understand?
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@sadolite
Just to be clear, I am against mandatory masks and am a left-wing variant of what 'libertarian' is. If you don't want to wear your mask and are very sure you don't have the virus, in a secluded area where all others consent to the risk, I kind of say 'well, whatever this is natural selection if you're right or wrong'. Though, if you go home and infect others who didn't consent to that risk, you're then an asshole.
I agree with you that forcing everyone to wear the mask no matter what situation is there outdoors (even if there's only one person far away from them on the other side of a street) is frankly ridiculous. Then again, there are people who spit as they walk along or whatever and hypothetically someone could fall into/onto that later so I understand both sides here, I just personally think walking slower and being careful would avoid the falling scenario.
In all seriousness, if you are trying to tell me that masks don't stop the spread, that's because some people wear it with their nose poking out and also because of insufficient hand-washing etc, meaning their hands are spreading it to places they touch while having left their home, so on and so forth. The masks do very blatantly prevent your spit or phlegm going onto other surfaces, including other people's pores and skin. This is not some refutable, hypothetical thing, it's so utterly blatant that I'm confused how it's a 'theory' and not a solid fact in some people's eyes.
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@ebuc
In my opinion, Firefox for brilliant user-enforcable privacy and Chrome for quality of webpage display and accessibilty and general browser's ease of use.
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This guy comes in telling me no one cares what I post...
Ends up caring a little too much what I post.
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@Barney
Has your mind changed on enforcing when someone keeps harassing me in my thread and I ask them to leave me alone? If not, please display your lack of bias. The reason I am asking you this publicly is that I see no reason to keep things hush-hush.
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@ILikePie5
Well guess what? What the mod says is practically final. You don’t have to like, but the action has been taken.
This is a debate website, there are MEEP referendums on the code of conduct and enforcement of it and on top of all of that, I have explained very clearly why it is not me 'disliking' the action that makes it wrong but clear-cut elements of hypocrisy and genuine distress of victims that need a serious rule-enforcement change for people not just like myself but like speedrace when Wylted/Singularity was racist to him and whoever else suffered under trolls in Mafia games.
This is not about you, you literally are not involved in this thread. Shake your pom-poms for Ragnar all you want and tell me no-one cares what I say, while caring what I say and replying to me. It doesn't matter to me.
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@ILikePie5
Yes, others do too but they are quiet about it.
When you say 'hate' you are changing the word 'dislike'. I actually am starting to resent you deeper than just dislike though, the more you are interacting with me on this thread. The reason I do not 'hate' you, aside from how little you matter to me, is that I know you are a toxic personality who cannot help what you are doing. You are not actually out to hurt me, you are out to hurt and rile up anyone who is weak and an easy target. The evidence is in the history of your posts and frequency with which you spam this emoji for no apparent reason:
😂😂😂😂
You enjoy people feeling laughed at by you. You relish in their agony as they type a lot to battle your few lines of humiliating bullying but the difference between your usual victim and me is that I know you are doing this, I am typing for others to read. Now, I will stop as I have said enough, you are irrelevant to this thread and your perspective on this is undeniably biased.
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@ILikePie5
Mod already said it was fine so it was fine.
That is not how it works unless your definition of 'fine' is that he got away with it.
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@ILikePie5
No one has had a problem with us for a couple of years except you.
That is a complete lie but if you do actually believe that it is not my responsibility to make you realise how disliked you are, I am not a bully like you. Go and believe you are liked, just know that it's not by me and I don't go to your threads or whatever and cause you hassle or say noone cares what you say, any opportunity that I get to say that.
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@ILikePie5
First Amendment doesn't fucking apply to a privately owned website, on top of that it is not a first amendment right to say that you will put a taser to someone's genitals IRL or even that you want to, especially if you're expressing that want directly to the person.
I do not need your BS, stay off my thread.
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@ILikePie5
I am actually not alone in seeing it as unacceptable, even Crocodile posted here and the drama clearly was a factor in User_2006 quitting his account.
When you say phrases like 'literally noone' you fail to understand that on this website, my threads do actually gain traction and people (even haters of me) do pay attention and care what is said and thought about. You are correct that originally it was just a thing that a minority of people in the game (because the game was majority toxic and/or indifferent) cared about. I am actually happy to be out of that game only because I don't want to type anymore in that environment with you and Oromagi. You are both extremely toxic players and people, he's just passive-aggressive about it.
It was Oromagi who coined the term 'ratman' and who even just calls me 'rat' at times. He knows it pisses me off but does it anyway, he is a sadistic person who engages in his sadism in a slow, controlled manner. This was one of the first times that the real him shone through in an outburst that I do believe is due to him being drunk/high for all I know. That is not an excuse, it is an explanation.
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@ILikePie5
Even if the threat is not legitimate, why is it okay to say what he said at all?
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@Barney
Why is it ok to say that just because it's a mafia game? Why is it ever okay to say what he said???
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@Barney
I have an extremely vivid imagination and this is both a blessing and a curse. Let me tell you that when I read something gory, I imagine it there, in reality, especially if I'm already stressed. Furthermore, I can tell you that me aside, others with similar imagination-depth and reading comprehension skills would not leave reading what he wrote not imagining it happening. This isn't about a physical safety issie, it's about a mental one.
You can turn this on me and say 'poor baby RM quit the site for your mental safety' or you can drop the act, be humble and admit you misjudged the situation. The CoC is 80+% for protecting emotional distress and displeasure of users as a result of how others use the platform and interact with the other users. It is this majority-context issue that was most severely violated. I don't think you understand that some people truly imagine what they read out there in front of them, the entire fictional literature industry is funded by them/us.
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@Barney
@ILikePie5
Solely for finishing my debates I have returned. Both for my own ego's sake, yes, but also because I don't see a reason to waste my opponent's time and effort, especially if they've worked hard. Additionally, after some time to meditate, truly calm down and deal with other shit, I have realised that I merely need to avoid mafia completely as I was previously and also definitely stay off the Discord and I'll be fine. (I am busy IRL atm, it was part of the stress that led me to take this unbelievably sick threat by Oromagi all the more seriously than really it may have been meant).
To be very frank with you, I do not for a single second believe or understand your perspective here and in the future I am certain you will look back on this and question what on Earth led you to have such a lapse in judgement. While not so severe this time around, you outright admit that your leniency on Wylted is part of what ended up with him still being around (and which Mr. "I like Pie" who says nobody cares what I say is simply salty about being reminded was a user that he helped win Survivor games and was buddy-buddy with).
Out of respect for you and also out of an urge to leave this on a note that doesn't imply I am just a crybaby trying to stain the reputation of this website, let's carefully analyse what you're saying and show how you are the one disrespecting the sanctity of DART's rules and moderation's intergity, not me.
- Even if we set morality completely aside, to pressure players in Mafia to have to waste nightkills and lynches on players who are violating the Code of Conduct (CoC) of this website is absurd. Do you understand that? You are forcing players to need to waste strategic moves and erroneously get rid of otherwise suboptimal players-to-remove because of your lack of enforcement. That is outrageous to suggest is fair on those players who have the power to play much smarter 'for the win' in those games.
- What was said to me was in no shape or form a playful reference to an in-game action. He even specifically said 'IRL' it seriously scared, enraged and much else for me as the game was full of players like Mr. "I like Pie" here who jeered him on and taunted me more and more, leading me to irrationally refuse to give in and claim when in the end I actually should have done before the last vote came. I felt humiliated, threatened and extremely stressed (also due to factors outside of the game but it all added up).
- You are suggesting that somehow CoC are less severely applied in Mafia games yet absolutely nothing in the CoC states this at all.
That's all I have to say on the matter. You do have favourites and this is partly due to that (I am glad a user posting here agreed with me). This drama is so severe that User_2006 felt a need to quit the site (whether or not he's made a new account) despite still being involved in the game. That is how disgusting and wrong what has happened here is. Do I regret making this big drama? This time no, I don't. This is vile and you need to start enforcing your rules in those threads or 'forum games' will become the easiest thing for any other debate website or curious viewer of this website with some malignant agenda, to use to smear campaign DART. That's all, goodbye.
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I will not stand for this abuse whatsoever. That's all I will say. I quit this website for real now until rules are established. Idc to ask for a 'ban', this is beyond forgiveness or anything.
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In order to justify to me that Mafia games are not subject to CoC, I was told by Ragnar that a racist pedophile who was banned for 90 days for this (only permanent as he bypassed via alts) was held under a lenient light for what he saod in magia games. I guess this is justified now.
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I have seen first-hand with bsh1 that what is said in Mafia games can get you punished. This is actually correct.
I was told by Ragnar that it's okay for a user I'll happily name in this OP but can't so that it's not a callout thread, that they'd tase my genitals IRL as a passing joke in a mafia game to highlight that I 'owed them' some information and they'd torture me for it if this was IRL (they genuinely said this). Because the user is Ragnar's favourite, it's been oushed away as a passing joke.
I will be sure to show many others this comment if ever they compliment this fucktard teacher's pet user and I promise that this comment will not be forgiven until this user admits what they said was a threat, was wrong and that it in no shape or form deserves leniency.
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Mafia has a stronggarm, i am a flavoured bulletproof whose role description made it clear that only a telekinesist or strongman could kill me. Good luck town. Remember my townreads.
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Do not show them mercy, do not at all reason with them.
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Once I flip town, please, in this order blackmail the followiwng players to fullclaim as they did to me:
- PressF4Respect
- Oromagi
- Bearman
- Ilikepie5
You will win if you do this. I guarantee it. Stick to that order.
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@WaterPhoenix
I already clarified how/why several times. Read.
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