RationalMadman

Add supadudz to the townpile. My reads remain the same.

Not happening. I do not care anymore. You do not ever threaten me irl and make me succumb to you. That's final. After I am lynched, lynch Oromagi and Press.

I lromise I will not claim. I have both done nothing to deserve being picked on and also am happy to make a shitty town lose if they're going to treat me this way, end of discussion.

I tolerate you calling me Rat and Ratman nonstop but this is getting too far. I am contacting mods about that threat. Idk whot f you think you are. You're blocked.

Is that a threat? Try to taser my genitals irl, see who is screaming by the end.

You are confused. I can be lynched and still win. In a ga.e where death is inevitable, I do not need to pander to you and beg for mercy. Go ahead, do not think for one second you are owed a claim by me more than you owe me your claim. You're not town, I do not fear the rushed bandwagon here, I do not fear losing either. Do what you want.

Yes, you can even be partners. I don't know which way around it is but I scumread you both and there even can be two scum pairs here (2v2 mafia). All I know is neither of you are pushing on tbe other at all and Oromagi is sliding along like a snake around the lack of friction in his way, which despite your activity levwl ia largely contributed to by you making the spotlight only shine on me. That's of cours by design, as I intentionally made it shine on me, but you're solely focusing on me.

What exactly haven't I answered in that post?

Mafia and thirdparty are both scum. Mafia is one of two things under the umbrella 'scum'.

If you were town you'd i terrogate me far more, vote less readily. Last game you were scared to vote me and you were cop. Here you're playing like a coward yet also ready to clash on votes as you know that my vote is on Press and it will be hard for me to get votes on you.

You're tactical but not strategic. In the end they will believe my reads. Watch.

You go right ahead. Good luck when I flip town amd the rest trust my reads.

It could be an American thing. All European nations, despite being the hardest hit in the original outbreak in Italy and Spain, have far exceeded US in how they handled it despite almost 0 of them forcing mask-wearing in the 100% of the time manner that US now is. They're only making it mandatory when you're close to someone, on public transportation etc. Many shops in Europe are beginning to have screening for body temperature and there is proof of testing on some nationally-updated apps in Italy, France and Spain I believe (but they're not fully used yet even by the tested).

Thid party is scum.

It's objective, not subjective. You can quantify his content as direct, aggressive vs indirect, passive. I'll show you proof if you want. My main target is Press, not Oromagi, as Press is reacting disproportionately scummy since being scumread by me 

No. Last game Oro was far more aggressive.

Which arguments against me are deterred by me reading Oromagi as scum?

I'm voting press for a long time. Did you not see?

To me it is very simple. When Oromagi was town, ge reacted to being scumread by me far more. He also offered consistently positive feedback. When Press was town, he kept interrogating everyone, never once 'pushing back on those who suspect him' even when he was uncc'd miller and their suspicions made no sense. This game he's not just scummy in itself, he is behaving very different to before, much more 'waa waa you scumread me' and much less 'everyone, I am onto you!'

Oromagi and Press are scum, I am getting more certain over time.

Thirdparty is scum, is that confusing for you?

You absolutely can. It's based on what you find scummiest in a villain, as a host.

Supa, I already said most of the reasons I think he js thirdpartty in a later post. You are lynching me on a fool's errand. I will out when necessary and town will win off of my reads even if I am lynched. You are one of the single most irrational players I've met, you lynch on pure impulse and this game will be no different. Where your alignment shows is how you react after some events unfold, so let's see your reaction.

Guys I am sorry, when I said this: 

I just realised after reading Little Cookie's post on the page before this (last post on the page) that it was Deadpool's storyline that's ruled out, not Daredevil's. I apologise. That said, I also realise that this is irrelevant now as this is a pure villain-on-villain game (which I did not at first think).

I extremely townread this assessment by you. I do not think you would have bothered to come up with that accurate assessment at all if you were scum. You would merely have let me keep fighting others.

LittleCookie8

ILikePie5

Warren42

User? - don't know enough about how he differs as scum to truly read into his posts and accurately read him but he's playing just like last game vibe-wise for me.

Null 

(everyone who isn't town or scum, don't make me state the obvious, I default people to scum-leaning though)

PressF4Respect

Oromagi

what are your reads on Oromagi, please force (yes force) interactions with him. Otherwise, I will push on you. Why you and not him? I am more sure of you and I think he's thirdparty whereas I think you are mafia.

Why do I think that? Lots of tiny reasons combined, already revealed the core principles on which I read Oromagi as TP.

Thank you for your elaborate OMGUS. Which you already were attempting before but now are actively pushing for.

Do you have any reads outside of me? Last game you were interrogating everyone left, right and center.

everyone join me in voting Press please, trust me on this.

you will find out that char claims are role claims once we get going on our adventure. I already have semi-cracked the code.

I actually agree with the right-wing on this only insofar as to blackmail every citizen when just going for a stroll down a street with noone nearby, to wear a mask is simply ridiculous. However, on public transport or at work when dealing with customers (and as the customer themselves) it does make sense. Basically, what I'm saying is if you're on the beach or in an alleyway or wherever at a time when barely anyone is around you, there's no reason to force you to wear a mask. In fact, shops shouldn't require masks they should just require tests to be quite honest. If you're infected then they should not let you in the shop and if you're untested but not showing symptoms then you must wear a mask.

I support a dynamic policy and flexible approach that combines safety with freedom. 

Unless we arrange that, I want Oromagi and Press to out.

Actually you know what? If we arrange a time for all to out, I support a massclaim. Just because even though it helps mafia work out PRs, I am certain I can then confidently tell you what the split is.

Why are you asking for people to out when you and press are my scumreads (you are thirdparty in my deduction)?

I would like you and press to out and no one else, thank you.

I think you are either town or a very clever scum player who has read Oromagi as indeed being TP (or partnered with him but then why would you be so obvious?).

In short, I townread you weakly based on the fact that you so readily participate alone. The participation is active, in that it engages a user each time with the post angled to attack or defend (or both). This is definitely 'towny' but you are also a capable player, who would know exactly how to play aggressive while being scum.

in games without vanillas*

Character is always more connected to role than affiliation, that's a given. Think about it, there's 2-3 sides of any mafia game but many more characters than that. It's the roles that are split just as much as the characters are (especially in games without vanillas).

the proof will be in what he flips as, how can I bring you to the future? As for the clues, the first is how okay and keen he was to lynch inactives so much so he said it 2 times (if not 3). It is strange for him so early to be reiterating that. 

Now, push that aside, Oromagi as town and as I interacted with him last game, is all about tactical prods. This game he isn't tactically 'prodding' people, he's almost whispering in a corner 'about' people intending for other people to read what he says. This is not the reaction-testing maniac I knew when he was cop last game, it doesn't even resemble him.

He is far too passive this game as well. Last game he leapt at me or would be leaping at warren the moment he scumread us for out interactions or whatever. This game, he is so gently talking 'about' poeple to question them, it isn't his town meta at all.

Why not scum? Why thirdparty? Those tells will be revealed as the game goes by, call it a hunch. The short answer is that as scum, he'd at least be attacking his own teammates or someone. As thirdparty he's scared to piss the mafia or a vigilante off, he wants to survive, it's possible his role even is literally 'survivor'.

the game concept isn't supposed to be all villains vs each other, frankly that is really shallow and unappreciative of the depth of antiheroes, antivillains and heroes in marvel universe.

I did not really think that the entire thing would be true villains throughout the cast, it doesn't mean I didn't read the concept. I skimread it, looked for key things and that's all that mattered.

I don't think mafia are heroes, especially if speedrace said there's no thematic split.

Ohhh you thought mafia was heroes, sorry I misread.

That's a scumslip lol. Why would you think that if you're a townsided villain like me?

I admit I thought that too, pre-game. I thought this was antiheroes vs villains but based on my character this is just pure villains vs villains.

Speedrace doesn't want us to believe there's a split. Do you know why? That is because we're all villains and it seems thst the function of balance in this game is that all characters are powerful (he explicitly stated no vanillas or goons) and that the thing weakening the town is that all character claims are scummy, aince we're all villains. The inly thing helping scum vs this overpowered town, therefore, is that their powers are hybrid powers. Meaning that absolutely noone has a power that's unique to scum-roles (or if they do it's maximum one of the team of what I assume is 3 or even funnier would be two teams of two or something). When we add on third-party roles, we begin to understand that the sole thing stopping town steamrolling this game is purely in the fact they don't think that there is a way to derive a split from character claims.

Yet, if it is true that there really is no way to tell from character claims, and if all/most scum roles are hybrid, enabling them to claim as town and prove themselves, then what would you i  Speedrace's shoes says balances it BACK in favour of town? Perhaps that the characters did have a split, a secret one, that only the smartest players could decipher and which lied in... I already said what.

And why'd you doubt that or talk so condescending? Where's your useful input?

He is third-party, do not pay attention to oromagi. Focus and keep interrogating me, it at least can help things progress from branch-out things from that.

From my own character, I can know exactly whst the split can't be. Then, out of what it can be and based on my knowledge of sepedrace, I can conclude that the most likely split lies in how the villains obtained their power(s) or something along those lines, such as what the power itself is.

He doesn't know it. He made a split subconsciously.

Scum not scim

There is definitely a theme split based on how speedrace inside his soul/mind sees characters as redeemable villains vs truly scim villains. No doubt about it, there's always a split.

I think that this is town villains vs villains vs thridparty villains.

The crtieria on which we are split seems to be based on the nature of the power or how we obtained it. The way I obtained my power(s) and/or nature of my power(s) seem to be my character's towny feature, if anything. It's possibly storyline-based but since this seems to be cross-movie it also implies it's cross-storyline.

Wait a minute something is wrong. I am a villain yet I am sided with the town. I thought I am an antihero but I am just a villain!!!