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@bsh1
You can't rob me of those wins without admitting bias and hypocrisy. Oromagi, Ragnar and Ramshutu (most of all the latter) climbed by preying on Sparrow/Type1. All other MEEPs were enacted non-retroactively. If you do and enact it soon enough to rob me of those wins, you're corrupt.
Good MEEP, I am interested to know if you or Virtuoso came up with these.
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@Ramshutu
When I am at Round Three of my current debates, I will make an open challenge that's rating restricted, allowing you to accept and a few others, for the Flat Earth being possible/viable. When I do that, feel free to accept. I'll define terms in the Description.
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@Ramshutu
So if I argue here will you reply?
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@Ramshutu
So if I reply to your 'contradictions' (all of which are false and explained away by a series of things to do with perspective and distance, or something along those lines) in this thread, will you reply in this thread or do I have to accept the challenge to get a reply?
I am not going to make the same mistake as last time, I know that you will win with the current definition of 'plausible' and that you'll make every logically sound argument from my side shaken off as 'unreasonable but viable doubt in an insane person's mind'.
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@Ramshutu
No, there's a huge abyss between the two extremes you just described. The latter scenario makes it too easy for me to go 'omg it's a conspiracy and all the logical fallacies are programmed into the simulation.' while the former enables you to go 'oh really, would Roscosmos not have called their rival NASA out on it by now? Let alone back then during the cold war?' and refuse to understand what being in on a conspiracy together that far surpasses human rivalries, would mean.
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@Ramshutu
I want you to use the arguments you just used, among others, to justify that given what we see, hear and know that the flat Earth is impossible or way too illogical to hold as genuinely viable.
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@Ramshutu
I don't like 'reasonable doubt' it allows you to smear campaign me and say 'well duh, they're not lying' to many things I will bring up.
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If alternatively you don't want to, I'll reply to those arguments in here.
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@Ramshutu
Challenge me to a debate on the flat earth being physically viable/possible/plausible.
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Unfortunately, what you just said is mostly meaningless nonsense.
Fortunately, you finding meaning in it is not what qualifies it as meaningful.
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You shouldn’t forget everything you know; this is absolutely absurd; and I guarantee you that those who believe in flat earth simply forget everything they know when it’s convenient - only to remember it when they feel their point is valid.
It is not exactly like that. You don't forget everything you know, you remember that you know nothing and are gambling on the truth at any given time.
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The issue, say, with flat earth is that it is objectively untrue, and anyone who has any understanding of geometry, observation and 8th grade trigonometry would know it’s both untrue and absurdly so.
So, let's start here. Start with why.
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@DebateArt.com
Read above. You are celebrating the wrong birthday.
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He made the website like two months before releasing it. The real birthday of DA as we know it is Aug 5th.
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Dr. Franklin, this was made prior to that being released.
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@Mopac
I'm just saying, ya'll got it easy. I'm the most hated person here.
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@Death23
I get away with it easily... Not sure what you do but I don't care to explain how.
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How so?
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Druid is not witchcraft it's a Celtic religious practice, retard.
Druids have supernatural powers beyond that and were believed to have almost every single power Witches do but be more 'politically active' whereas Witches were more 'keep away from us and do your own thing'. Originally Druids were all male but overtime the Lore has changed and they have become both genders but when you really think hard about it, they are essentially Witches who are more interested in politics and less introverted.
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I am a female, retard.
So you're a female, you identify as female and we're not in a professional environment. Then what was sexist and perverted about calling you 'darling'?
Witchcraft is a practice anyone can engage in. It's not female or male, retard.
Wrong. The Magic they practise is able to be harnessed by many types. The beings that have most in common with what they can do, magic-wise is the Druid and Warlock but Fairies are close competitors in that regard. Wizards can do magic other types can't and can't do magic other types can. Sorcerers are entirely different and operate on harnessing magic in and of itself as an essence and using it like a physical thing to push, pull use objects and alter them etc.
Wizard related to high magic, not witchcraft, retard.
I am aware, thanks for agreeing with me that people are wrong to call the male Witch as Wizard, when in fact they are Druids or if particularly sinister and less nature-focused then they are Warlocks.
Pixies are a type of fairy, retard.
Not exactly, no. They are from the same original ancestor but evolved to be different even physically. Pixies have slightly darker/tan skin and look more Chinese or Mongolian whereas Fairies are Scandinavian and/or Germanic racially. The elfish features of pixies are not as strong on fairies.
The appearance aside, Pixies can genuinely do magic different to Fairies and operate on a system of ethics that Fairies completely disregard. Fairies would tell you that Pixies stand for nothing but actually Pixies see anarchy and fighting power (even if that power seems benevolent) as a positive force. Fairies use magic that influences events or moods in a way that makes everyone happy whereas Pixies use magic that is much more sorcerer-esque. The most that Pixies can do with mental magic and altering events in any way other than physical pushes, sounds etc is to perhaps make you feel fear but that's about it.
No gender specific, retard.
Witches are female, always. In every single Lore ever written about them, they are female both biologically and in self-identified Gender.
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Go ahead, use that brilliant brain of yours to highlight the lies of this retard. Maybe name two.
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You're free to contact me back, genius.
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You. Who are you talking to?
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Wylted, I know that the Keto diet is causing you to behave this way but that is a bit beyond the mark of what's acceptable.
I sense 'disgusted' is the type of guy who is sarcastic to all equally IRL and online so I don't think he'd be particularly nasty to his children to the extent that you describe. His funeral need not have a single person at it to mean he was entitled to be the way that he was but I'll like to further extend this to explore what fame even is.
I understand that a kinder person is more likely to have people at their funeral but there's more to it than that tendency alone. A real asshole to some will have an avid fanbase from the 'other side' to those 'some' so long as he/she isn't too mean to the other side.
What you are suggesting is unfounded and you don't know exactly how he is IRL. He clearly uses the website as a joke pass-time and isn't tryharding his posts but that doesn't entitle you to say what you just said.
I don't like disgusted, he calls me a necrophiliac amongst other things but I don't think you need to go ahead and say that his grandchildren will not attend his funeral based on a severely superficial judgement of a guy who blatantly isn't being his serious IRL self on here.
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@Ramshutu
The biggest error people make is listing the following:
from flat earth, creationism, the food babe, fad diets, anti-vax healing crystals and energy channeling
and saying 'so how do I tell that it's pseudo-science?'
This alone shows you are in a wrong mentality to handle the deduction of pseudoscience. You must come in knowing nothing, believing nothing. Every single Round Earther may be a sheep or in on the conspiracy, you need to come in thinking you trust no one and refuse to blindly take anyone's word no matter how close they are to you emotionally.
Start there and 'pure logic' will begin to open up to you. It is a fascinating journey with a lot of pain at the beginning but elation and wisdom at the end of the tunnel.
You need to not believe anything at all, whether the majority believe it or the minority do. You simply analyse, hedge your bets on truths and see over time which theories seems to contradict 0 of the others you have concluded in a scheme of pieced together truth.
If any single thing you believe in even indirectly makes another make less sense, you have either got to patch the missing link or accept that at least one of them is pseudoscience.
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@bsh1
From what Mike says, that actually is the harder one to do because the Rating system is hard-coded in a way he can't undo without destroying and restarting everyone at equal Rating.
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Let me ease your pain, male witch?
Witches are a gender-specific alignment of magic being. Unlike what most think witches are not evil, their male counterpart is Druid (but you can use this term to refer to a female), not Wizard.
The Wzard is not a male Witch, it is a bigger equivalent of a male Fairy. Female Pixies are what most people mistakenly think Witches are in the alignment spectrum.
Witches are nature-focused balancing magicians. They identify as the female gender, specifically.
If you thought 'ease your pain' meant more than listening to you and genuinely understanding why you hate this website and Castin etc, you are wrong. I genuinely don't understand your agony and want you to release it and justify it so as to be proven wrong or to prove me wrong and open my mind.
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@disgusted
I'll help you buddy, the key is 10 reports and it times you out. However, if Bsh1 or Virtuoso are handling it at any time you will notice a sudden surplus over the 10 per 24 hour limit. It doesn't come back at the same time if you didn't report all at the same time but this 'coming back' will be more than 10 in the same day as they're handling reports it hands you back flags if you reported under 24 hours ago.
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Feel free to whine, let me ease your pain darling.
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@Ramshutu
Step up to the plate.
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Beat to Loop (right click and click Loop unless on phone then you need YT Music or something): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2gQA3ypgKoWhat the fuck d'you think you're saying 'bout my raps being simplistic?You're the living definition of ordinary missing real shit,Telling me I spit the 'big dick' fickle lyrics? I'm a genius and a misfit, IQ way above your calibre, it's practically infinite,If I get banned for this rap then you can relish in your limits,You're a muggle that's in trouble 'cause this game's becoming Quidditch.What I do, you barely compare to. Lapping up Type1 debates? Well, I done did it now, so whatever,You can run circles around the others but little brother of mine, I'm too clever,You're walking in my shadow, especially when it's pleasant weather,Watch the sun shine bright on me, you're far behind me weak feather,Only loss you got's against me, want a rematch? Leave in a stretcher,You're pathetic and you'll never surpass me for long, ever,Think you're the best one minute and the next, I'm better.
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@David
@bsh1
@Ramshutu
@Mharman
@Club
Beat to Loop (right click and click Loop unless on phone then you need YT Music or something): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2gQA3ypgKo
What the fuck d'you think you're saying 'bout my raps being simplistic?
You're the living definition of ordinary missing real shit,
Telling me I spit the 'big dick' fickle lyrics? I'm a genius and a misfit, IQ way above your calibre, it's practically infinite,
If I get banned for this rap then you can relish in your limits,
You're a muggle that's in trouble 'cause this game's becoming Quidditch.
What I do, you barely compare to. Lapping up Type1 debates? Well, I done did it now, so whatever,
You can run circles around the others but little brother of mine, I'm too clever,
You're walking in my shadow, especially when it's pleasant weather,
Watch the sun shine bright on me, you're far behind me weak feather,
Only loss you got's against me, want a rematch? Leave in a stretcher,
You're pathetic and you'll never surpass me for long, ever,
Think you're the best one minute and the next, I'm better.
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@DebateArt.com
@David
@bsh1
@Ramshutu
@semperfortis
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@David
@bsh1
@Ramshutu
@semperfortis
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I am the greatest.
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You are blocking me, witch.
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Incognito in chrome means it's still going from your cookies etc just not saving new ones.
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Google tracks (it's not a conspiracy theory) so the reason Debate.Art shows higher for you, if you use chrome or browse on an Android phone attached to your Google account, is that they know you like Debate Art. Try looking on another browser in their incognito mode. DDO will probably score higher and DA lower. It also puts Debate Island high for me and I think that's also from my history.
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If it is low for now, it will come back later even purely through the adspam clicks.
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DDO will always score high because the name is so brutally good (just 'debate' and .org ranks above .com unless there is huge disparity and DDO owned DDC and pseudo-sold it to a trusted 'unregistry corporation' that ensures no one else gets the URL but you no longer need to run the website).
Essentially they pay monthly to own Debate.Com but at a very cheap rate where the only thing they're paying for is owning a URL that Unregistry Corp uses to advertise itself. It's the cheapest deal possible for their situation and was a wise investment by them.
DDO is an example of fantastic financial wisdom and terrible people-side wisdom of such a would-be successful enterprise. They played their cards right in every sense of not being driven out by competition ever (simply the face that the website is 'debate' and it's been around so much longer etc, means any other debate-esque website will never beat it on Google for years to come).
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@Snoopy
Exactly. Even if you lack a beautiful lover, anyone next to you is going to be far freer to bond and interact with you with that style of seating.
The argument is probably safety but I don't know how to put this lightly... Car crashes happen because of foolish and inattentive drivers. The cars are not why they happen. It's true that a really sudden and unfair situation could occur but you shouldn't take a car like this and ride fast as hell, take it slow and steady and it's wonderful. I don't own one yet but it's my dream car and always has been.
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I like the idea, it's true that Ramshutu intentionally votes in the last 2 hours of most of my voting periods intentionally to mitigate my ability to get an ally to even look at the debate (I can't just ask all my friends list to look at every single debate and I also don't want to as it risks them voting against me when they otherwise would ignore it).
I am not saying I campaign to get votes for me, but that motive is undeniably there and is actually filthy to NOT do as you're throwing the game in a toxic way as it inflates the rating of your opponent.
Anyway, I don't care all that much anymore. I have come to peace with the idea that I must play it slower and safer and go for debates that I know I can get casuals to vote on as either the topic is high-profile or my opponent is someone I predict will give up as the debate goes along or be so much weaker than me that I'll win regardless.
I learned this from Ramshutu and it was a secondary reason why I never could get any kind of revenge on him even if I wanted to, meaning it's severely powerful at defending against the exact strategy Ramshutu is (or was until my brand new approach) using to keep my Rating artificially low and my work ethic unfairly punished, as opposed to rewarded.
I now will focus much more on making sure that I not only debate better than (or as good as) I used to by having enough time to put full effort into my debates but also that I'll pick topics which are attractive in some predictable way. The Santa one is just a 'wow wth' one that I knew would get people peeking in and the abortion one I'm doing right now is just one of those topics you know will get people coming, especially as there's a few conservatives who want to see me fall.
I hope they vote honest and that my new strategy pays off.
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As you say 'minor nuisance' to cover a flaw with it, I'll say 'minor nuisance' as the problem I have been having are voters being intellectually incapable or masquerading as such.
They will genuinely appear to put full effort into the vote and seem to genuinely have 'read' the debate but beyond referring to X or Y within the debate and calling my stuff 'terrible' and exploring what they insist I should have done instead... There's not much I can do about it.
The inverse is saying 'brilliant' to how an opponent tackled my point, even when I directly defended against it before or after that said attack. The omission of my reply is the most common tactic of Ramshutu but he switches it up at times, referring to what I said in a very vague way and saying 'incoherent' or 'bad faith' or something along those lines. Ramshutu is not the only person who used this strategy to vote against me but he's the only one to do it so regularly and fervently.
The most recent 'very blatant' example being this vote: https://www.debateart.com/debates/1051?open_tab=votes&votes_page=1&vote_number=1
Read the debate and then read his depiction of it, it must blare bright red to you how much of an agenda he has.
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