RationalMadman

She is less impressive if you focus on rhyming, focus on her puns and depth:

She does it hilariously and with intense creativity. She isn't lyrically superior to Em, obviously lol.

Eminem autowins against all rappers except Nicki Minaj, Tech N9ne and Vinnie Paz because of who is to the rap game.

Many can beat Eminem lyrically because Eminem focuses much more on being funny and creative with puns and rhyming for the sake of rhyming than on actual depth of lyrics or flow.

G-Eazy is good at the rap game but entirely embodies what you just described Tech N9ne as.

I will give you an example of Paz when he is barely trying to be in-depth, how amazing he still is:

G-Eazy is a worse rapper than MGK in terms of lyricism.

Eminem is arrogant in ways that are entirely unjustifiable. He will side with and against rappers at his whim.

G-Eazy was befriended by Eminem to hit back at MGK and he called MGK a mumble-rapper while defending G-Eazy's honour against MGK's dissing of G on the side of having dissed Em. Eminem is a fucking two-faced guy but he will always be a powerhouse in the rap game that only Minaj and Vinnie Paz (you probably don't know who he is) can fuck with in terms of genuine rep and built-up thorough respect for what they broke the mould of and changed in the rap game; Minaj being not just a woman but such a powerful person due to her allies in the industry and Paz because he founded 3 labels/groups, 1 being he himself, and who is absolutely a founder and fundamental aspect to modern rap as we know it. He pioneered flow and lyricism in ways that none before him ever did and explored making beats that weren't hip-hop but still were gangster as fuck and pleasing to the eardrum.

Tech N9ne could arguably take Em on but he'd objectively lose because Tech's strategy is to fight 'around' enemies in the rap game and manoevre via other rivalries the enemy has. He did this with The Jokerr, even got the guy to release a 'sorry for dissing' song months later.

Tech N9ne isn't dead, Tech-9 is another person; a rapper-turned-commentator.

Tom Grennan song I loved (didn't listen due to you, already know it). It was so applicable when it was released and to do with my real life. I loved that song so much.

Not sure if you're trying to trigger me or not (funny as it had an image of a gun on the guy's shirt) but that is not really the same subgenre of hiphop as 'rap' or 'grime'. What you just showed is known as Mumble rap with one of the most unpleasant voices to mumble with that I've heard in a long time. I don't mind shitty rap, Night Lovell is a pretty great 'crap rap' type who clearly doesn't give a damn about lyrics but makes it sound good and gangsta enough to be pleasing. You're displaying very bad taste, it is disappointing.

When you say you find that superior or equal to Devlin, it is worrying how much you must be suffering then as I wonder what could be displeasing or horrible to listen to for someone like you, do you feel disgust at things?

Interesting mix. Is it your playlist?

What happened is terrible, we get it. It's not like this maniac even had any reason to hit the ones that he hit. He literally picked on random, tame civilians not some massively sadistic or dangerous types. So from all angles this was a terrible event.

This is not at all approved or cheered on by Islamphobes. This is literally killing the most civil type of Muslim there is; the kind who only ceremoniously live out their religion, holding peace and communal serenity above the spread of Islam. So why the fuck did he target them? I'll tell you why, because he is a sociopath and they were easy prey to justify his sadism on.

We all know that he is a maniac who did a terrible thing, what is the point of this thread? Tell me, has anyone actually defended him? I don't keep up with this thread to know but it seems all this is, is turning an event where all agree it's terrible and horrific into some kind of 'us vs them' thing. We are all against him, especially the left-wing progressives.

Aside from what this reveals about you as a person aside, this is directly encouraging others to violate the Code of Conduct and to bully me. That's beyond just breaking the rules yourself; quite ironic, considering what you accused me of in the next post.

I'm sure that you do and that you think you speak for everyone in the 'we'. You unfortunately will find that I am too smart and also too tough to be bullied off a website merely by remarks like that. Keep this up and see which one of us leaves this thread and site; I assure you, I don't think it will be me.

One day I hope you gain respect for others and also do research so that you start to see that the government can be the terrorists even though legally they never can be named that.

Aside from that, what does that have to do with my first post to this thread? You are simply trying to mock and offend me so that I either succumb to rage or silence. 

It isn't. If you have irritable bowel syndrome and stomach issues, it is the WORST diet possible.

most of what you sent isn't to my taste (even the Eminem one)

Devlin is a god of rap, no question. 

If Brexit happens, yes.

If Brexit ends up turning into a legal-stalemate or whatever, then no. Staying in the EU will always be the optimal move for the UK. Always. This is about more than just culture but even including that. The UK is culturally closer to a nation like Sweden than it is to a nation like Canada. The fact that Canada was a colony and doesn't hate that it was doesn't really mean much. When it comes down to it, Canada and US's rivalry is entirely artificial (not even superficial, artificial). When a war happens, Canada is begging US for protection and when it comes down to UK and who has its back, it's gotta be France & Co. You can't seriously think that new-age Germany is UK's enemy either.

Aussie and NZ absolutely should have such an arrangement between one another.

Fuck yes this is about me:

I do not care if you believe that I belong in this is thread or what value you assign what I say. I take note that you were incapable of even respondig to a single thing I said in the post above, in your entire reply.

Just a side-note that triggered me as I'm a rap expert... Hip Hop is the overall genre. Rap is a subset of it. This is why 'mumble rap' is wrongly named. People like Lil Pump are Hip Hop but they are not Rap (some idiotic 'real rap' fans say "he's only rap but not hip hop" what they mean is the total and utter opposite of what they say). Hip Hop has four subsets:

1. OG Gangsta Rap - this is the most 'hip hop' genre (50 Cent, old-school Lil Wayne, Tupac, Biggie Smalls, Nas)

2. Lyrical-mastery Rap - this is actually the only subgenre that is 'rap' but the others have stupid names that include 'rap' wrongly (Eminem, Vinnie Paz, Tech N9ne, old-school MGK)

3. Singsong non-tryhard rap (New-age Lil Wayne, G-Eazy, Nicki Minaj when she's not trying but she's a lyrical rapper when she tries, Russ)

4. Grime - Underground British Gangsta-styled rap that became an 'in between' of the first three over time (Wiley, Devlin, Bugzy Malone, Skepta)

5. Mumble Rap (Lil Pump, Lil Xan, Lil Uzi Vert, Tekashi 6ix9ine)

When you say 'hiphop and rap' you mean 'hiphop' altogether, this includes rap.

Why do you think they never split up sports between races even though blacks blatantly dominate some sports, whites others, yellow-asians others and Brown-Asians dominate Cricket and some peculiar sports like Chess and disc-sliding type games? Everything's fine as long as the dominant one truly earned it and everyone of the other races feels it's fair. This will always be subjective, but the pain of being kept at the bottom so brutally that even the anomalies can't shine and the way the norm of your race shines is not able to come to fruition is a pain that is unjustifiable to put the race through.

There was a time blacks couldn't compete in long-distance races because all jobs were white-only. There was a time when mathematics wasn't something Asians were able to compete with whites at as the very syllabus they used (both brown and yellow, Asian races) were incompatible with the ones Whites used. You only see races able to 'shine' when given the chance to do so and they only can even begin to do that when you undo the already-present glass ceiling that has so many ways it's weighed down upon them, to enable them to even bother to go into a line of work and think 'oh someone of my race can do this'. Sure, once in a while you'll get the Eminem or Benjamin Banneker to break the mould but waiting for someone lucky enough and strong-willed enough to break a glass ceiling is hardly the best way to keep things evened out.

MeToo refers to actual sexual molesting from high ranking bastards like Kevin Spacey to people (he actually preyed on males) that they feel like preying upon. It is not words, you Conservative liar about genuine SJWs.

Yeah, yeah let you do your work like with MAR where Ramshutu and Death23 had to post paragraphs for you to even CONSIDER that MAR was using the most blatant and severe case of alt-abuse that the site has had so far.

I am not sure what you mean by 'let the mods do their work' as if you are above us or earned your place remotely. You were put into modship not even by anyone proven to be good at moderating but rather by the completely shady Mike who instantaneously put 'I am not involved with modding' the next day on his profile and who trusted bsh1 with complete access and control of behind-the-scenes information about users and aspects of the website, despite Mike claiming to have had nothing to do with the DDO community and thus not being able to say he could justify trusting bsh1 that much that soon.

Don't think that you guys are some people who deserve to be where you are, least of all bsh1 who does 0% of the work and takes 100% of the credit for what you do, man. I didn't make this threads to undermine you but if you are doing to say 'shut up and let us do the work' at least bear in mind that you're in your position due to luck or hidden relations with the user Mike, which is it?

It is Nd, look at his Modus Operandi. Everything about the account apart from that finally he stepped into the Formal Debating Arena, was identical to Nd when he trolled on an alt.

It's not obvious, I think the mods are being lazy or lying if they deny it. I have observed a few things about the origin of the Somebody account (early debate comments, blocking me before we even had our first interaction, etc) and how he uses the English language. It is Nd, I am promising you. 

And you're honestly telling me that one wasn't the other? 

Alright, but the reason why it stood out to me (I did mainly only bother to look into it as Argent said it was particularly helpful) is that as I was reading, it confused me what it was referring to. It would keep asking me to measure how easily I accepted the new truth and each time I felt nothing at all.

Reputation matters. If I know you have power over that and you take my clothes, I simply will steal your favourite piece of clothing until you cower, apologise and trade it back.

You steal my clothes while at my house, I steal your wallet while at yours.

That is not an admission of anything, it is a philosophy of not letting my penis rule my life or cloud my judgement any more than I would let empathy do so.

If you really badly need my clothes, beg me like the desperate being you are. Then I can and may well choose to show you mercy. Go behind my back or sneak out in the middle of the night with my clothes and invite me over to your place, know that this isn't about the satisfaction of the revenge; this is simply retribution.

That's one way of not answering. ;)

Backing Civid wasn't a great move but I too stood by DI which ended up longer lasting but equally defeated.

Welcome to DA, I will enjoy battling you some day on the Formal battlefield.

No fucking credit for the guy who actually called it knowing less about you than YYW does and being the legendary RM. Yeah just congratulate YYW after he 'agreed' to me.

Guys how do you predict the winner? What kind of stats do you base it on?

ConservativePolitico

Whether you guys believe it or not, I believe I am immune to this barometer "backfire" effect and I noticed as a child that this was linked both to my superior intellect as much as to my Asperger's Syndrome (high functioning autism with more ability to speak in public being the differentiating factor from medium-to-low functioning autism, even if delayed in early life this solely refers to the adolescent and adult ability to speak, not early childhood but if the child learned to speak much faster than most they definitely are high functioning and the term Asperger's Syndrome has been officially terminated as not only did they realise it literally was identical to high functioning autism but that Dr. Hans Asperger began his research under the Nazi regime, for the Nazis even though he finalised it after).

I am not saying that all intelligent or all autistic people who are high functioning have this immunity, I am saying somehow in me the mix of the two is such that I was immune to it and it drove my parents and peers very irritable when I would ask 'why' for all beliefs already from the age of 3 upwards. I was not asking as a habit at all and shocked my parents when at the age of four I was already counter-arguing their orders with 'but you're wrong, I don't have to do it this way or this time, I can do it this way, this time or even not do it at all and achieve the end result anyway.' type arguments.

It both annoyed them and entertained them, I think that it definitely irritated my father as he's more of 'come on, let's do it and shut up about it' type of person than I am and my peers and even some teachers got so severely triggered by this (it wasn't always 'why' it changed into intelligent counterarguments to sometimes core syllabus teachings, so I was not even able to be shut up with it being irrelevant but them being stammered in the ability to explain why I was wrong or they were right). 

One example of this was in geography, where it took a bully of mine laughing at me to help the teacher to keep the lesson going. It was ecology and I asked calmly during it why exactly the environment designed us, who are parts of the ecology and environment, to destroy it. I realised this would trigger people who believed in free will but also trigger the teacher who had to preach that it was against nature to fight it and that we were enemies of the Earth by doing what we're doing to it. I found it even more amusing because at first the guy who liked to verbally bully me said 'well duh, we chose to do that it didn't design us to.' and I replied 'it designed us to choose to do it as it designed our brains.' this was where the teacher's expression changed and where they had to laugh me into silence but i did notice a few of them actually realised how legit my argument was and instead of being angry or laughing were genuinely contemplating it. Unfortunately I was only in the 14-15 age-group and there's no way most of their brains thought more than 'damn, that actually makes sense' and pondered free will or that nature isn't a good thing necessarily as they lacked my combination of intelligence and high-functioning Autism to ponder it further.

Life for me was tough, but so severely rewarding in ways that you can't imagine if you don't have my kind of brain. I see strategy and logic in ways only the likes of Sun Tzu and Bonaparte did, I comprehend things so deeply whether or not I like or dislike the truth or lie and it shocks even me at times what I discover the more I look into things and comprehend them.

You can think I'm arrogant and delusional but in time you'll realise I just am that smart and should have no reason to doubt it.

If this proves true and there is a lawyer involved with food industry cases as a speciality or just as a general area of expertise amongst others, please get in touch with me. I will not pay you but you won't have to pay me either and I will help you use this case (I know who Wylted is, that's not a threat) to investigate the suicide and help take the entire pro-Keto diet down not just as a result of this but with this being the spearhead of a larger case. 

Wylted did possibly have chronic depression and paranoid schizophrenia before the diet but I am going to prove with the autopsy if we can, that this diet was a severe cause.

If this is serious, it is the ketogenic diet at play. I have warned you vehemently about the effect of starving yourself of carbs and inability to produce Dopamine and you just don't care.

Can do it? Yes. Will do on this matter in the forums? No.

I'm aware you tried to troll me but you're supporting my case despite the tease.

If you mean Internet as in broad spectrum, then yes. 

If you mean DebateDotOrg (DDO), DebateIsland (DI) and Debateart.Com (DarC) then not exactly... (CreateDebate [CD] is a trollfest, it doesn't count as a proper debating website but it's ruthless banter that trains my ability to debate under pressure in ways no other site ever has)

Some do debate solely to express views they will not change, I can completely comprehend a Religions Forum main genuinely seeing DDO and DarC as much of a thoughtless cesspool of trolls as the rest of the Internet when it comes to debating. If you ventured out to any forum other than the Religion Forums and, more importantly, observed the Formal Debating, element of DDO and DarC, you'd begin to have seen a very different evolution and current status of people. These people include many of the top debaters ranked on the site. While all systems are culpable to corrupt voting screwing up the ratings system and other means to climb Elo than necessarily being the most knowledgeable and high-IQ debater, what usually is one thing you can rely on is that the people ranked at the top of the debating sites are usually the most open-minded (but not at all proportionally 1-20 is more to less or vice versa, it's dispersed but consistent with the extremes) and almost all of the people ranked on the bottom of the website were precisely there to do what you say people do on the Internet when debating. This is almost certainly true no matter how bad the website's rating system is, so long as there's genuine Formal Debating format being the means by which things are ranked and that the mods at least care enough to remove blatantly malicious, or stupid, votes.

The reason why it's almost always true that there's negative correlation between rank and how rigid one is in their views, is that the people at the top of the debate site, if it's ranked by Formal Debating and the mods at least care a little anymore to moderate ad spam and blatantly malicious votes, is that there is a secret link between the ability to debate well and the ability to change one's mind for better ideas. This is NOT as simple as 'better is more' in a directly proportional sense across a debate site's ranks but it IS very rigid if everyone were to keep at it. This includes the factor of 'debating more gets you a higher rank' because the people more enthusiastic and who would spend their spare time on a hobby as unappreciated socially and demanding intellectually and emotionally as this (trust me it's demanding emotionally if you are as dedicated as Alec or myself are to this website's ranking) then what you learn is that the people towards the top are almost always willing to consider other options and at the very least are undeniably the most likely debaters to put genuine effort into debating against their real views (or angled in between their real view and a mainstream take on it) that broaden their horizon at least in understanding why the opposition thinks what they think.

The 'flippers' who totally flip wings and severe core beliefs will always be few but you will never find that they are amongst the worst debaters unless their flips are totally random and not to do with the debates they had on the website at all, in which case there won't be that correlation.

It didn't hit smartphones nearly at severely. I think it was chrome-only error for windows.

There was something to do with how you store the cache. It must be something that the template company you have or whatever, hosts third-party. This service is definitely shared with some other websites, it happened to createdebate as well.

It's over now.

This applies to other areas of the site too, forcing me to refresh the page over and over again (every new page need to refresh) or it keeps reverting to some kind of time-freeze version of the site.

There's a cache-failure to update that has frozen the front page of debates but if you change the front page to 'page 1' by clicking the '1' it temporarily fixes it.