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@PREZ-HILTON
What you did with samstevens and vaarka is 100% if not ramshutu too, what you are implying Austin did. You told me it is handcuffing oneself a good year ago, to not let people advocate for us. I do not know what Austin told them.
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@PREZ-HILTON
What is inevitable?
Do not pretend for one second you would not try or advocate Pie to push for a runoff in reverse. Not even for a second will anyone buy that.
One thing you could do to truly defeat me, as in it would win votes, is have a real platform and show that google docs plan if it was not faked.
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@PREZ-HILTON
@Sir.Lancelot
For the sake of transparency and whatever else, I want to state the lancelot vote issue is dropped.
He voted himself who was not a candidate. Him voting wylted defies alot of what he said during the campaign phase but there is no rule against lying and altering one's intention to vote.
Whiteflame has made clear to me he does not consider the self-vote a vapid vote despite counting abstains and votes both years from polytheist witch and this year, that2user, that were for ineligible members.
Apparently that2 and witch were not locked in, neither were abstainers.
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@PREZ-HILTON
I drop the lancelot thing entirely, whiteflame does not like to count his self-vote and I must agree he clearly decided to vote you.
There are 2 votes that if allowed makes it a tie requiring a runoff.
The Lancelot thing is dropped by me, I even would care about the voter account-age eligibility even if I lost entirely by 10 votes. This was a vague rule throughout that they seem to be wishy washy on.
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@ILikePie5
Perhaps karma is a bitch either eay around.
For you it would be a bitch if your 1 day account advocation ends up backfiring as they allow 5 day old accounts.
There is no way at all, none, that you can tell me a consistent track record of ditching dart for over 2 years other than for elections which also includes ramshutu is worse than new accounts appearing to deeply care about the site and the election.
Either way, I am assuming if they allow the votes it will be a runoff, I am solely posting here to make clear your side has zero moral leg to stand on after it tried to make you have coup power via a MEEP and then tried to allow 1 day old accounts to vote.
I will accept the outcome that happened, as the rules play it out to be. I actually solely told things in advance to be transparent. If I had done this while silent, it would seem sinister and shady. You have the ability to pitch your case to whiteflame and the mod team.
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If you were curious, it was not me but one who voted for me that brought something to whiteflame's attention and told me.
That said, I noticed something after both years had had abstains and third party or troll votes officially counted in terms of Lancelot's edit which i was informed was originally a self-vote by this witness.
The same person told me 2 votes for me were wrongly dismissed and I agreed.
I know with full understanding that Wylted tried to pass an official MEEP to literally grant Pie a position of power that could overturn the election results. There is zero doubt in my mind that Wylted would do the same in reverse. I know this because Pie even wanted 1 day old accounts allowed, I am arguing 1 week old accounts be allowed.
It depends on what happens. It is interesting that you call mods a conflict of interest whereas the election where airmax won you campaigned I was terrible at handling the mods and that it is so important to get along with them, as has Pie.
What you guys do is shift narratives wherever suits your agenda. What you are angry at is me seeing how exactly the rules work, no different to what you would do in reverse.
In this thread Wylted says 3 months minimum, yet Pie wanted 1 day old accounts to get to vote. Fascinating.
If an account does more in 2.9 months than samstevens, ramshutu and Vaarka have done the past 2 years, who shows more eligiblity to vote?
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@PREZ-HILTON
We will see.
Regardless could be 21-21.
As for insurrection, you wanted Pie empowered by a real, actionable MEEP that you tried to get instates to be able to coup the election.
You played like a scumbag, you deserve no less than ruthless technicalities in return from your opponent. If you win, you win and disappoint us probably, if not good for me. You are a nasty guy who never treated me as anything close to an equal, at the very least I am pushing on this to make you squirm and make you know I am not a fucking joke to mock, I am a real opponent who could beat you. That is something you never gave me even when i wiped the floor with you on a debate where I was against your own suicide. I want you to know you did not get to run on a clown platform and make me look shit, you barely scraped a win at best and are still able to lose as things are depending on rule enforcement.
I am not a joke, I am not a toddler, I am not the shit beneath your shoe. You will feel that now in this moment regardless because you react solely to fear, that is what you process as respect in your sociopathic mind. I have come to understand you, you can deny it all you want.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Lancelot voted himself, that2s vote for whiteflame and the abstains of 3 members counted.
As for the 2 votes for me that are wrongly ruled out, that is going to depend what the mods see as the threshold for too new.
I am not looking to lead an insurrection, it is up to whiteflame what he decides and up to supadudz and barney what they decide.
Remember Wylted, you pride yourself on being such a good teamplayer with them. So, the tantrum you spoke about, I hope you do not throw if things do not go your way.
You won (based on the current count) by people who did not use DART at all for 2 years outside of votes showing up, namely samstevens and vaarka as 2 glaring examples.
I congratulate you out of obligation, not respect nor some deep acknowledgement. You did not deserve to win, your platform was that vermin supreme endorsed you and that you will give out gift cards. The voters are waiting for you to announce the winner and reveal your amazing google docs manifesto.
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I mean I would call this spam but 3RU7AL and Oromagi set the precedent for this to be uncapped
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@Sir.Lancelot
Without strife, the victory has no meaning. Without strife, one does not advance. Without strife, there is only stagnation.
YUTHURA BAN
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@Sir.Lancelot
No need to, your response is sufficient.
This is all fun and games to you. You just forgot the game has rules and that some of us care.
You want to back the so-called sith lord, be ready for all technicalities to be pulled out.
Your vote should be discounted and I am being informed 2 votes for me were legitimate in all ways except they signed up a week ago.
There is, in other words a way for me to win 21-20 right now based on enforcing the rules without bias.
I will say no more. It is up to whiteflame, the DART owner Mike and destiny/god to see this through.
You joke about destiny in another post. We will simply see. Next time you wish to prank as you did, delete your vote instead of editing, it at the very least leaves more uphill battle during the investigation.
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Can you work with the site owner/admin to help retrieve your original vote please?
Remember, we could not change our vote that election.
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I did not contact you conceding, assuming the votes for me that came in later on especially with week-old accounts are ruled out while you keep the votes from users that did not contribute to the website at all in the past year (though I got a couple of those too), you won and whichever one of us won this was a good run for me.
I did everything I could, won Lunatic and Mikal over, won the mod team over and ended up with Athias and David being neutral abstainers. Yet you somehow still beat me by 2 votes based on the current count with the likes of samstevens, ramshutu and vaarka who didnt do a damn thing for DART in the past year, saving you. I wonder how you got them to vote, perhaps campaigning outside of here, perhaps just informing them.
I do note that your empathy is fake, as recently as a few hours ago, you called me an equivalent of a toddler who could not legitimately hold the mods accountable and laughed sadistically about selling mugs with 'rationalmadman's tears' written on them.
You are a prick, Wylted. I do not respect you. I do not like you. This is not salt, this is as simple as you running on a comedy platform, a clown platform and beating me due to voters being shallow.
You mocked me start to end, mocked the entire election and still won. So I congratulate you on the win and am so pleased to see energetic newer members participating, many voting for me. I doubt you will do a good job as President, I think this is Airmaxv2 perhaps with 0 tournaments but we will see.
You have called me likened to elliot rodgers, said I could never charm or work with the mods and mocked me start to end if your time here on DART, not just this election. I am amused that you think feigning empathy will work here, anyone paying enough attention sees you for what you are.
It does not hurt (much) that I lost, I am just sad that you won based solely on a troll, clown campaign. It makes me sad for this website's IQ and quality of member.
I will be contributing regardless, I care about DART, not about you too much. Well done on the win, you earned it even though by all means you did not deserve it.
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@WeaverofFate
The main answer to number 1 is to ensure pure toxic trolls slowly get less toxic and toxic rivalries are handled less by banning and more by talking things out.
I also would regularly host tournaments and stuff like that as the President is responsible for site events.
I will likely do it anyway as so many voted for me, I will just host them unofficially which is not too much difference here.
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@WeaverofFate
No to 2, there were too many trolls voting terribly before, we came to an agreement on the most lenient yet reasonable barrier that lets both a forum and debate enthusiast relatively easily gain access.
We even had trolls using sudden alts to vote.
There is a history to that barrier.
2 minutes are left to vote, I cannot answer in depth.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Oh right it is eastern time. Then gg.
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@WeaverofFate
Here is mine: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8374-remember-me-real-murky-memory-there-oh-you-do-nice
It is unclear where Wylted's original platform went, the mods deleted it due to him spamming, there is a sort of redo of it.
After the deleting if his spam threads, this became his only actual december 2022 jan 2023 campaign thread
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@WeaverofFate
After the deleting if his spam threads, this became his only actual december 2022 jan 2023 campaign thread.
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@WeaverofFate
Here is mine: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8374-remember-me-real-murky-memory-there-oh-you-do-nice
It is unclear where Wylted's original platform went, the mods deleted it due to him spamming, there is a sort of redo of it.
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I was the only non-moderator member of that task team/force. There is a reason I became invited and central to it. Otherwise it would have kept running after I quit it.
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@Sir.Lancelot
The thumbs up feature of the website is due to me alone on that task board. Ask the site owner. I also pushed for a redoing of the Help Center. That was all me. It was not teamwork, I was the only one putting in work for most tasksand Mike realised it too and was sorry for how it turned out.
Ramshutu was the second hardest working member there. He is lying about how things went.
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I just say gg wylted, whether you fail hard as president or succeed, I benefit excluding me getting wrongly banned during it.
I will address it later and thank those that voted for me regardless of the loss.
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@ILikePie5
Depends on the people clearly, some have far sounder judgement than others.
Everyone can form a baseless opinion, not everyone can and will form a well-informed one that they can defend.
If you of all people think this is me angry and lashing out, then it is amusingly good for me. I do not care to be known for my anger and this is so far from it that it benefits me if people presume it to be.
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@ILikePie5
Wylted is a much less responsible character than you. You would have beaten me much harder than him, he almost lost.
It does not matter anyway, clearly it ended up being a huger W for you as he won anyway and now you can run next time. He is hardly gonna do anything much in my prediction so it cannot look bad or good and lets you swoop in.
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@ILikePie5
If by resume you mean site resume, sure yeah it is one of the reasons. That is not ego, it is also not delusional since all mods either abstained or voted me over wylted.
I do not mind this loss, it saddens me that it happened as Wylted is gonna shit on the role just like Airmax did, in my prediction but let's see if he hosts events and actually opposes the mods on any corrupt decisions.
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@ILikePie5
I have been calm throughout. Calm does not mean passive and cowardly.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Actually it resulted in me getting type1 banned for his alt that they kept doubting me about. After the disrespect and ignoring of me and random exclusion of Castin from it (who didnt want to participate after she realised she was never invited despite being a forum mod), I quit it and they disbanded vert shortly after, I wonder why if I was just a problem to it.
Mike, the site owner, appreciated my contribution so much he thanked me. You can believe what you want.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Wylted plans to contribute to the site, even if he loses.
And yet he never has and is most known for forfeiting debates and trolling.
Financially maybe he has before he decided to stick to gift cards which I think he gets cheap due to irl stuff.
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One needs to run around badmouthing the other constantly even saying he will put 'rational madman's tears' on cups or some nonsense.
This entire thing is just about ruining it for me, to Wylted. He is a blatant troll who is saltier than me if he loses and pretends it is the other way around
The main reason I am sad about this loss is I lost to a guy who genuinely ran on a clown platform just a clown that gives gift cards.
His platform was to stop me winning. That was his only campaign promise. He pretends he can do more to stop and convince the mods and if I say I am disagreeable, he says yes I am and lack social skills, if I say I get along with the mods and win their votes, he says oh that is because RM is so agreeaeble.
He is a fake turncoat who flaunts being what he is to any paying enough attention. He won, which makes me worry but seeing who people vote for and support in irl elections already made me worry for over half of humanity out there.
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How fake does someone need to be before it is obvious to the masses?
Best Korea actually accused me of being fake while voting Wylted.
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The choice is between a person who if elected will bitch and moan about how mods are unfair and block half of the people he needs to advocate for and between a person who will not only be an effective advocate on this site for everyone, but also will take the fight off this site to improve the site overall, and every mod chose the choice that would challenge them zero over an effective advocate of the people.This is an example of having an extremely clear ethical choice and the people who should be signalling the site what the only ethical action is, are letting the site down.A part of me wants to just let the site go down in flames because most of the leaders on this site have made the choice that is more likely to lead to it's destruction as well as the choice that is most likely to neuter the position of president permanently.I am not going to let the cynics who threw their votes away to win.
This is you on your 50 dollar gift card thread
Now you are telling me you dont want me to lose.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Your sole agenda is to stop RM winning. This is your entire campaign.
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@Sir.Lancelot
That is great, I wonder why he has to win presidency to ever or act on any of it. The airmax mystery.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Airmax literally ran on the platform that if we didnt vote him asbpresident he'd let the site rot but that if we voted for him, he would magically advertise for site popularity.
Sounds like mimicked platform with mimicked results coming up.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Well done anyway, I am happy this showdown happened this year and not last year. You beat me when I was at my best, that is saying something. You were definitely going to beat me last year especially with 3RU7AL having voters moved away from me and not away from you as much and back then I had 0 popularity amongst older ddo users.
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@Sir.Lancelot
You mean like airmax promised?
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@AustinL0926
Does not matter to be fake just for votes. I can just tell you several users voting for Wylted could not give a shit about DART, these include vaarka, samstevens and more I wont bother naming. They are voting to stop me winning, nothing I would say would change their minds nor did I run on a platform that implies that.
I also see some legitimate votes for me from newer members but if you observe their activity here it is existent and genuine. People should not vote for likability, if this loses me votes so be it. They should read the campaign threads and consider how a user has been to the website in quality content etc.
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Let us see the voters of Wylted's past year activity and how much they care about DART.
Then compare it to mine.
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Why Pie stepped down for Wylted by not running despite wanting to 2 years in a row is beyond me.
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The average voter of Wylted has barely used the website and does not care for its wellbeing. That much is true esp if we look at last year activity.
It does not matter though, he can win and be another shit president.
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@Greyparrot
by Peace you mean Putin tyrannises them?
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@whiteflame
Wylted has 9 btw. anyway im taking a break from the site for some hours,
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thanks to all who voted me, I will give a proper speech when the election is over.
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@Reece101
You already were unblocked when making that post however, I get why you didn't realise, it means you didn't visit my profile or notice the 'red lock' symbol had gone.
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@Greyparrot
Sure. Support people that break peace treaties. You must like endless wars for profit
This is quite literally what Putin embodies at the moment. Except he doesn't need to profit too much in cash, his currency is power.
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@Greyparrot
It is pragmatically beneficial to America even totally emotionlessly to achieve its end goals whether strategic or moral, to make a long gruelling example out of Russia. It helps dissuade anyone else to get cocky and tyrannise surrounding areas. China probably still will with Taiwan but that history is very complex, Taiwan actually thinks it is the real China, for starters.
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@Greyparrot
I don't support any American Party-based Republican, to be quite honest.
I just don't see why either that this makes her less of a Republican if you know what a Republic's values are nor do I see why this is opposed by you since Putin is by far extremely anti-Republic.
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@Greyparrot
Russia is the imperialist fascist state, 'Nazi' is just playing semantics there.
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It's also weird because the man's side is also like he's caressing an ass LOL
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I think it was supposed to be a black man and black woman holding each other up but it kind of looks weird, especially as the woman's side does look like she's holding up this giant dick at a first glance.
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