Shila

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Due to months of isolation and strictness I am able to go out with only virtual threats of Covid. In China nowadays, wearing a mask is more a "I care about COVID" passport than an actual protection measure.

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Shila, Can you tell me everything that is funny about this photo?

Sorry guys for derailing the thread a little.

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You don’t want to give Americans another reason to go out an shoot somebody with news like that.

First, I am neither an American nor am I in the US.

Second, the atomic bombing of Hiroshima is not news

RM: --> @Shila

Thank you Shila and how many personalities do you have on different accounts and forums?

Best.Kirea: Life is the main cause of starvation.

Do you believe morally ambiguous individuals are more responsible for their actions than those driven by an intense fanaticism or zealotry? 

I know it might differ depending on the situation, however let's just look at the Holocaust. 

You have individuals who play an essential part in the genocidal process, and may send thousands of innocent people off to their deaths, yet they might save a few children or somebody they used to know. Then you have individuals who are driven by this intense anti-semitic ideology who don't stop to consider their actions, who wouldn't spare anybody, who genuinely believes they are doing the right thing. 

Who would be more responsible for their OWN actions? 

I guess you could say that morally enigmatic individuals would be because they usually have a full understanding of the ramifications of their actions, while fanatics tend to get caught up in their own single-mindedness to fully comprehend their situation. 

However it is also the fanatics own fault for allowing themselves to succumb to this single-mindedness. However I am unsure if this is even related. 

Would really appreciate some advice and opinions on this topic. 

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It made the Chinese stay at home which was not good for the economy.

China's economic growth was mostly positive in the year 2020 unlike America. That is another topic.

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I'm assuming your using a 28 day embryo as a reference for when you think a difference exists between the entity at birth and the embryo. 

If you believe the cut-off date is at 28 days, then this well before the point the point of viability and you have given up a lot of ground.

I strongly disagree that any date several weeks or a even a dozen weeks before viability makes a difference on the personhood of the prebirth. 

Polytheist-Witch: As absolutely horrible as American atheists are, the ones in the UK are way, way worse. They encounter less theists but are even more angry at theists and full of way more hate than the American ones go figure on that.

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Chinese are not fat like Americans. China should be sending a new batch over.

--> @Shila

OK I will be nice this time and repeat a request I made and see if you have any honor by honoring my request. I have no interest with engaging with you on this site. Please do not respond to any of my posts.

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It is hurting itself in its own confusion. Surely nobody will scorn at China's strict effort at eradicating COVID.

RM thinks he's Superman, Jesus Christ.

I'd rather have been Superman than Jesus Christ but unfortunately I was born a human in touch with god so I am closer to being the latter.

Am I the only person who thinks Bush simply LET 9/11 happen so there could be a fake war on terror?

After all, there is a lot of oil in Iraq and Iran, and it also gave a chance for the elites to make billions on selling their war inventions and other sales on the home front.

The fake war on drugs and horrifying war on communism were huge moneymakers, why not just make another fake war on terror?

Seems like it makes perfect sense to me.

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LOL!!!! Delusions of grandeur and psychological projection shines bright once again. LOL!!!!

You sure you aren't talking about yourself there, bud? After all, you seem to know better than the FBI on their own UCR and Biologists on biology, without citing any evidence, of course. Like always.

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Asserting God as the standard for morality, not asserting God as an existent being. If you read the exchange first you would know that.

The latter is a factual claim and therefore one which, if you believe in basic principals of logic, shoulder a burden of proof. Clearly you don’t, which is why you pretend it’s a game.

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The Beatles didn’t start out as millionaires. Success made them millionaires. But that did not change their talent for making music.

The only working class of the four was Richard Starkey aka Ringo. He came from the Liverpool slums and lived in squalid a back -to - back house

@ witch

They're just here to vent their hatred of theistd on people they don't know so they don't lose all their family and friends.

Polytheist-Witch wrote: I'm here to basically take a shit and walk away. #140

Have you run out of woods to take a shit in Witch?

Polytheist-Witch: Usually you see a picture of someone and guess what they might sound like. But all we have here are words so I honestly had no idea what to expect very interesting.

Novice_II: Because this thread is asking for secular pro-life arguments, I tend to argue that it is contradictory to deny human rights to the unborn unless human rights mean something other than human rights. Escaping that picture, I have simply not heard a good argument for abortion that did not lead to certain conclusions that most people would see as horrific. With or without God, the pro life position seems to be the most reasonable. 

Polytheist-Witch: You don't choose your religion. If you have you've done it wrong.

That's why people can have a moral standard that completely conflicts with their religion.

Best.Korea: Dear Shila,

Our government could invest into developing such a vaccine as top priority, then mask it as a new flu shot.

If 90% of children receive such vaccine, it will reduce total reproduction by 90%.

It wont kill all humans, but it will help.

Nuclear war would also be a positive solution. But they also have to kill the fish too so the fish doesnt evolve into new humans.

Polytheist-Witch: If you're picking your religion then you haven't been called by any particular god and therefore you probably aren't really dedicated to your religion. You just go through the motions or do what you think is socially acceptable. That's why people can have a moral standard that completely conflicts with their religion.

Polytheist-Witch: Nope, nope and nope. Lazy and liar. Worthless atheists.

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>@Lemming

-> @Shila

No, that I'll get a headache.

So you remember what happened the last time you did it.

It's this level of retorts that drive others crazy. 

It's irritating and services no purpose other than to derail the debate/discussion. 

Knock it off. Please. 

Best.Korea: Dear Shila,

I will not defend anyone anymore, be it Vietnam or Iraq. Even if Iraq sends me a friend request right now, I would decline then block.

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So why are you still arguing with Sidewalker?

On the subway with very little service. Not really anything else to do.

-> @Shila

If the IRS knew Which income brackets pay no taxes on the dividends received from or sale of their stocks. We wouldn’t have tax cheats anymore.

You are grossly misinformed or under-informed about the subject matter. (A little eagerness to investigate the subject about which we speak may help you.) Enjoy your day, sir.

Best.Korea: Dear Shila,

Forced sterilization is also one of solutions. I think it can be done through vaccines

Dear Shila,

We will see if it works. My other policies failed, or to say: havent achieved expected goals. 

The isolationist policy cannot fail more than my previous policies.

Art cant be a scam. Art is for fools and their money, no misrepresentation or guarantees are offered, with the exception of forgery of existing art. Forgery would be a scam and that isn't art, its a crime

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58% of Americans own stocks. But stocks are part of their employment pension and retirement plans.

Owning stocks is one way to defer paying taxes. But only the very rich can cheat on their taxes by hiring fancy accountants.

Enjoy your day, sir. I have no interest in either indulging or engaging your mulish avoidance of a direct response.

Dear Shila,

Yes, one policy of isolationism is the increased use of the block button on people such as you.

The second policy is to mock anyone who disagrees with me.

It should be easy to implement.

-> @Shila

No, that I'll get a headache.

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@TWS1405

I'm 90% sure, Shila is not a bot.

@Shila

I don't want to bang my head into a brick wall.

Polytheist-Witch: RM thinks he's Superman, Jesus Christ.

Best.Korea: I am against abortion.

If you destroy fetuses, you destroy humans.

Future of humanity depends upon survival of fetuses.

Now, of course someone could say: "humanity doesnt deserve to survive". 

They would be 100% right in saying that. 

So in that sense, abortion can be justified as a way to destroy humanity.

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@Shila

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Sorry, I am unwilling to discuss this with you,

'Might be I just don't get it,

But I think that you don't get it,

And I'm not interested enough in convincing you, to continue trying to convince you.

Morals of society change, as the people who make up that society change.

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The wealthiest 1 percent of Americans are the nation's most egregious tax evaders, failing to pay as much as $163 billion in owed taxes per year, according to a Treasury Department report released on Wednesday.

Yes, the wealthy in general are very good at circumventing tax obligations. Yet they're still responsible for the largest portion of taxable income.

What percentage of Americans cheat on their taxes?

Your worst case scenario: up to five years in prison. Six percent of individuals 'fessed up to cheating on their taxes.

You're not answering my question. Since you brought up stocks being a tax haven, I'm asking you which income brackets pay no taxes. (Remember, that was your point, not mine.)

Best.Korea: --> @Shila

I also plan to implement some isolation policies in my policies related to this site.

Best.Korea: In my opinion, Saudi Arabia is a terrible country. I dont see why would anyone want to support it.

@Shila

Just because a law 'was for a long time, does not make it moral,

This is a 'simple concept Shila.

Morals of society change, as the people who make up that society change.

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@Shila

funny...I don't see any Assyrians or Babylonians around and the Egyptians today aren't really as advanced as the Israelis in many areas. So I don't know what your point is. If you want to go off on a tangent and try to deny the underpinnings of Judaism, feel free to do so here as you have elsewhere. it is a non-starter. You are denying the three major western religions that way and that's fine by me. Throwing together unrelated sentences, false statements and conspiracy theories can be your fun pastime.  You will have to pursue it without me. If you ever develop any actual questions about Judaism, let me know. Meanwhile, I'll let your statements which amount to nothing just sit here and fester, as they have elsewhere.

-> @Sidewalker

If you read my post, I said, asserts belief in God,

And if you read the exchange your post was written in response to, you would know that this conversation has nothing to do with “asserting belief in God”. It’s about morality and for the most part God has been assumed for the sake of argument.

Context matters in communication. Take note of it and these conversations will go a lot better.

But as you know,  I'll be glad to formally debate your incoherent and illogical claim that faith in God carries the burden of proof.

I would debate this claim if I had ever made it and/or believe it. I don’t and never have. You are having a whole conversation in your head.