Shila

-> @Shila

Your profile says you have a high school diploma.

I do have a high school diploma, as well as a number of others. My profile is meant to poke fun at those who treat personal information on these debate sites like BattleCards (not to be confused with Battle Cards.) If you've interacted with me much when I was at DDO, then you'd be hard pressed to not know that my DART  profile is mostly satirical--i.e. my choosing the most ridiculous options available. If one has bothered to have a decent conservation with me, they too would know that my profile is mostly satirical. I admitted as much when I starting posting on DART, amused by the questions and often misfired ad hominems when "my subscription" to notions like "Confucianism" and "Monarchism" were concerned. FYI: the only accurate items on my profile are my (native) country, and my native language. 

As far as the subjects Tejretics and I were discussing, when I was at university I double majored in Mathematics and Economics. Thus my stating: 

Athias Post #23:

I’m currently a college student in the United States studying math and economics, and am from India. 

... ... ...interesting.

And I knew to ask Tejretics about Econometrics given that it's the most logical post-graduate pursuit after undergraduate studies in both Mathematics and Economics. One of my M.S.'s is in Econometrics. So this is my incredibly prolix way of telling you that my "education" isn't limited to High School--only my humor is. 

Polytheist-Witch: Being obsessed with whether or not someone is trans what a woman is all comes down to men being confused about who they want to have sex with. There's nothing worse than finding someone attractive and then finding out they have a dick if you don't like dick. If you can't figure out who you want to have sex with that's really not any woman or trans person's problem.

--> @Shila

Everybody should consider their options what a fucking stupid comment.

 

--> @Ehyeh

I would disagree with you on objective morality being uncertain and also on the idea that god almost certainly doesn't exist. 

I concur.

--> @Shila

You do realize there are more Black immigrants from Africa and other places with POC since 1865 than People with any kind of slave heritage exist today in America...

There are also way more non POC that immigrated to America after 1865 than ever existed before 1865 in America. A lot more.

What you are asking to do is demand a great many non-POC immigrants from 8 generations ago who never had the opportunity to have anything to do with slavery to pay "reparations" to POC immigrants from 8 generations ago that were never a slave and never had the opportunity to be a slave after 1865

--> @Shila

You can claim that it is "no problem"

But the misappropriation of the recent Covid reparations proves that it's absolutely a problem with the current government. In a period of inflation and recession, asking people to do anything other than get back to work  while the government agrees to stop printing money devaluing the standard of living for everyone is asking for the immediate destruction of the nation. Maybe after we get our finances in order, we can play around with reparations like we did with the Covid reparations that helped put us in the current economic condition. At least we can survive the economic destruction better with such a mismanaged reparations scheme.

Polytheist-Witch: Being obsessed with whether or not someone is trans what a woman is all comes down to men being confused about who they want to have sex with. There's nothing worse than finding someone attractive and then finding out they have a dick if you don't like dick. If you can't figure out who you want to have sex with that's really not any woman or trans person's problem. 

--> @Avery

It is necessary to live in the shoes of the average citizen of any country before one can give an educated opinion of that country.  You will find you may not like that country at all. I lived in Sweden for a short period, hated it.

Polytheist-Witch: It amazes me that the people here at the site think that a blind person wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a nonflame heat source and a flame heat source. Like somehow being blind dropped your IQ points.

Buy the major coins (i.e. bitcoin).  Alt-coins are high-risk.

Buy low, sell high.  Buy down, sell up.  Buy after corrections.  Never FOMO.  

Don't put the majority of your investing into cryptocurrency.  Maybe 10-20% if that, but diversify the rest into other things (i.e. index funds, business, real estate, collectors items, etc).  This way, if crypto booms, you profit, but if it crashes, you don't lose most of your life savings.

-> @Lair77

That is true, but we also have non polling metrics like Consumer confidence and GDP growth along with inflation rates and the average wealth of a person adjusted for the low or high cost of living.

Obama scored much higher in all areas.

--> @Shila

Also, Obama was lucky. 

He studied in college 30-40 years ago when tuitions were much cheaper and law schools were not oversaturated like they are today.

Now, if you want the same degree Obama got, you easily pay 10x as much for it.  And you have far more competition in the job market because law schools willingly admit more students than there are positions for law jobs.

So would you borrow $250,000 to get a law degree, if there was a potential risk you might not even get a job in that field.  Or if you do, maybe you make $50-60k a year.  

You're also not factoring in the interest.  When you borrow 250k, you don't actually pay 250k.  You might actually end up paying 350k with all of the interest, since interest always gets paid off first

--> @Tejretics

I’m considering the MSc in Econometrics and Mathematical Economics at the LSE, yeah! 

I wish you the best. I got a lot out of the experience when I did it--though not at the London School of Economics. As long as you like the math, you'll be fine. 

For a PhD, I’d just do an econ PhD, preferably in the US (if I did end up doing one). Econ PhD admissions generally expect that undergraduate students do a lot of math.

Are you considering teaching Economics?

Yeah, it seems like college degrees can benefit in the long-run.  But in the short to mid-term, like the first 10 years, someone could be working a basic job to pay off lots of debt while they work their way up the career ladder.

--> @Shila

You do realize there are more Black immigrants from Africa and other places with POC since 1865 than People with any kind of slave heritage exist today in America...

There are also way more non POC that immigrated to America after 1865 than ever existed before 1865 in America. A lot more.

What you are asking to do is demand a great many non-POC immigrants from 8 generations ago who never had the opportunity to have anything to do with slavery to pay "reparations" to POC immigrants from 8 generations ago that were never a slave and never had the opportunity to be a slave after 1865

-> @Shila

share the country

America isn't a white country. It is for all people who choose willingly to emigrate here, and all people who are born here.

Additionally, maybe if they didn't buy millions of Africans and force them to work in the fields for about 150 years and then breed them like dogs to they could sell the offspring for a profit then there wouldn't be so many black people to "share" with.

Now that they live here, and were born here, and (at the time) legally emigrated here, even if it was against their will, this country is just as much for every black citizen as a white citizen. This has nothing to do with "sharing." It is the birthright of every Black American to be a citizen of this country. It is their right.

But the slave trade and slavery and everything that came from it honestly is white peoples' fault. They (old southerners specifically, and their children) are mad that they had to actually be good human beings and agree with science and stop oppressing a whole ethnic group because they wanted free labor. 

But America is a nation of freedom, liberty, and justice for all. This country isn't owned by any one person. It is a free land where anyone has an equal opportunity and equal rights. To think of it as "sharing" is appallingly elitist and ethnicist. This country, by the nature of the document we wrote in 1776 that founded it, and the subsequent one that was written in 1789, with amendments, is for everyone who is born here and anyone who checks the boxes to move here, and it is not "sharing" at all. It is giving people what is rightfully theirs.

Like I just did in the Politics forum, here are some of my controversial philosophical views. Would love to chat about any of them! Also check out my AMA.

• Epistemic nihilism is false. I’m not sure its truth can actually be evaluated, but at minimum, it’s useless and unproductive. 
  
• God almost certainly doesn’t exist. 
  
• Highly uncertain about this, but free will probably exists. 
  
• Moral realism is probably true, though highly uncertain. 
  
• Common sense morality is, all things considered, a pretty good metric. 
  
• The best approximation of a good moral theory that I can think of is preference utilitarianism, albeit somewhat skittish, accounting for moral uncertainty with either expected choice-worthiness or a parliamentary model, and incorporating some unusually strong common sense intuitions. 
  
• Creating new happy lives is a good thing, though not as good as making existing people happy. Creating new bad lives is a bad thing (though not as bad, other things equal, as inflicting suffering on existing people). 
  
• Countries don’t have very large special obligations to their own citizens. They should prioritize their citizens a bit more than non-citizens, for pragmatic reasons, but policy should, in general, focus a lot more on the rest of the world. 
  
• Individuals have a moral obligation to assist those in need. 
  
• We should care, morally, as much about future generations as the current one. Of course, for practical reasons, it often makes sense to prioritize the interests of people alive today, but the moral worth of someone 300 or 3000 years from now is no different than the moral worth of someone alive today.
  

Just because you get wet if you get water on you does that mean that water itself is wet? 

Fact.  Because, in many instances, decades ago, African Americans were denied opportunities to get a mortgage for a house.  Even if they had the money and income to do so....

The fact that they can buy houses now is irrelevant now.  Because they missed out on the best time in all of human history to buy a house.  Anyone who bought a house in the 70's or 80's, they'd easily see the house go up 10x value by now.

So, yes, they can buy a house now that prices are over-inflated but missed one of the biggest opportunities in American history to accrue wealth.

There are many black people who are renting now that would actually be owning property and passing property onto their children if racism didn't exist.

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@TWS1405

--> @Shila

The same high standards apply to transgender persons. "These policies are based on the conclusion that open service by transgender persons who are subject to the same high standards and procedures as other Service members with regard to medical fitness for duty, physical fitness, uniform and grooming standards, deployability, and retention is consistent with military service and readiness," the Department of Defense instructions state.

Still a non-sequitur argument.

Transgenders cannot, by medical definition, be medically fit for duty let alone meet the physical fitness requirements and uniform and grooming standards. Nor are they deployable. They make a mockery of the Armed Forces

It is official.

From January 26, 2021, onwards, there are no restrictions on military service by transgender individuals. Medical care for transitioning servicemembers is provided by the military and procedures for handling the transition in official records established.

--> @Shila

America has the largest African diaspora of 47 million outside of Africa. That is why racism is highest in America which has 235 million reported whites that has to share the country with  such a high number of blacks.

Of the roughly 11 million Africans that survived the Atlantic journey, only approximately 334,000 were brought to America. The remaining 10.7 million were taken to the Caribbean and South America.

Because of the American dream and the freedoms America offered, blacks chose to stay in America post slavery and make a life for themselves. While some did, for centuries, by the mid 1900s a small percentage of blacks wallowed in their black culture that left them in an endless circle of despair and a social, cultural and financial (class) victimhood mentality. A mentality that made them feel entitled to do as they please without consequence, leading to the out of wedlock birth rates jumping from 22% to over 70%, higher illiteracy, higher dropout rates from school, higher crime rates, and higher unemployment rates. That was their fault, their problem, not the boogey white man. This mentality also leads to blacks being more racist towards whites, Asians and Hispanics than vice versa. So sure, there is a lot of racism in America, directed at whites, namely white males. 

--> @Shila

--> @Shila

Guns are not the problem, human beings and their attitude towards their fellow man is the problem

Guns are the problem in America. Read the study.

Roughly 33,000 Americans every year are killed with firearms (homicides, suicides, and accidents).

In the abstract, it's hard to appreciate just how catastrophic this death toll is. So we made a chart to make things more concrete. It compares the number of Americans killed by guns between 2001 and 2013 to the number of Americans killed by war, AIDS, illegal drug overdoses, and terrorism combined during the same time period. It turns out that guns killed more Americans than all of those horrors put together:

If the 2nd Amendment was to arm Americans to kill Americans. It is working. The American civil war killed over 750,000 Americans.

The tool (e.g., guns) is not the problem, human beings and their attitude towards their fellow man is the problem. Their behavior. Their mental state. Their belief system. Their self-esteem (and confidence) or lack thereof. Their fear or lack of fear of punishment or how they hurt others (i.e., suicide). 

An inanimate object cannot harm anyone or anything until it is wielded; and when wielded, it is the behavior, mental state, attitude, belief system, self-esteem or lack thereof, and whether or not they fear punishment or the consequences of utilizing that tool that determines how that tool is wielded and utilized that's the problem. Not the tool in and of itself that cannot do anything without the wielder. 

The military uses guns to kill people. 

And?

More Americans die from guns than hands, feet, fists.

Which guns? Not shotguns. Not rifles of any kind. You need to be more specific. 

NRA even admitted the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun was a good guy with a gun. 

They're not wrong. 

Either way guns are more efficient.

Other countries have mentally ill people too. But America sets the record in people killed by guns.

Yes, as a tool a weapon like a gun is more efficient to take out another armed assailant, or for those bent on suicide. 

Again, it's not the weapon (i.e., tool), it's human behavior, attitude, self-esteem or lack thereof, and a lack of fear of the consequences of their actions in using a weapon for nefarious means. 

--> @Shila

-> @Shila

God did not give animals or birds control of their environment. They are totally dependent of nature. Bu5 humans have dominance over their environment. 

Nope.  Just one recent 21st century example; Two thirds of Pakistan was flooded just weeks ago; many people lost their lives and properties were totally destroyed and lost for ever.  So, it is not just animals that have no control over their environment, we humans just like them, are at its mercy. Stop talking bullshite.

God has sent great floods before. But here he saved the majority of Pakistanis unlike Noah’s  flood where he destroyed the Jews.

No. The flood was another natural disaster that the superstitious of the time believed it was sent from god because the priests of the time told them so. And they were Hebrews, not Jews. But again, those that drown in the deluge were unable to survive under all that water. so much for your man having "domination of the seas".

God saying "have dominion over all the animals" simply makes us an apex predator.  Tell me; how does a human in his natural state go about having dominion over a frenzy of great white sharks in their own domain? Or just one great white shark?

Shark hunting by humans is actually driving the sharks extinct. Shows humans are masters of the sea. 

Stop it ffs. So, you can stay under water without coming up for air longer than a whale or a dolphin, can you? 

Scuba divers out manoeuvre sharks.

No, they can't. Stop being so fkn ridiculous. And I asked you "can stay under water without coming up for air longer than a whale or a dolphin, can you"? 

And that would be scuba divers using artificial breathing apparatus.  You are terrible at answering without thinking, aren't you.

And you didn't answer my question>> Tell me, if we humans are so adapted to the NATURAL world, why is it we lost our natural fur coats only to have to hunt down and kill other animals for their coats?

God made Adam and Eve bare naked so he could ogle at their nakedness.

So, are you saying that humans didn't evolve from apes and that humans in their natural state have always been naked?

That is why God noticed their naked bodies and grew obsessive.

Try answering they question. Are you saying that humans didn't evolve from apes and that humans in their natural state have always been naked?

Genesis 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

The verse 3:21 of Genesis says different. 

"King James Bible

Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins and clothed them.

But either way, according to the contradictory bible, it was either God or themselves that made artificial covering for these two earthlings. Which is not their natural state by any means. 

After banishing Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden they were no longer protected. God then tried to protect humans from the prying eyes of angels. But even here god was unsuccessful.

So, then they were not in their natural state, were they, you clown.

--> @Shila

It was an monochromatic echo chamber (i.e. age 15-30, male, libertarian).  But I liked it.

But do you have to disqualify senior citizens. Their opinions maybe less relevant but they want to be liked too.

statistically, retired people are more likely to vote

--> @Lair77

Even though trillions of dollars of covid relief bills were signed during both Trump and Biden's terms.

Okay, I'm anti-Trump and pro-Biden, but this is unfair -- Trump signed those bills when the economy was significantly depressed and inflation was well below 2%, Biden signed that bill against the warnings of some economists (like Summers) and when the economy was clearly in an expansionary period. There was bipartisan support for Trump's bills, but only the Democrats supported Biden's. 

To be clear, I'm not claiming current inflation is primarily due to excessive government spending. But certainly some of 2021’s inflation was.

Are you Mesmer? 

-> @Shila

Being better educated is beneficial to society. You can contribute and participate more in public discussions.

Collectively, yes.  But on an individual level, there still needs to be an incentive to make a decision.   If someone perceives something as beneficial to society but harmful to the individual, they may not do it.  

You raise children that will probably go to college too. 

This is basically the American dream.  To become part of the top 40% of earners, and then raise kids to become in that top 40%.  And the main goal is to preserve the existence of the middle and uppermiddle class.   

  If this is the lifestyle a person prefers, they should pursue it.  It's not necessarily wrong.  However, this is essentially an argument  that people have a moral duty to meet society's expectations and serve other people.

https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/COSA-Biden-Speech-Full-Report-0905.pdf

57% of voters polled say Biden's speech was DESIGNED to incite conflict among Americans vs 35% that said it was just a fine and dandy speech.

Good luck in November Bidentards.

--> @Deb-8-a-bull

I didn't say remain a atheist. 

I dont have to not not believe in god. 

You dont go from christian to atheist.

Being a atheist fells like nothing until you are asked and or realize you are what they consider a atheist.  

Im a atheist now. 

And now i am a Muslim.  

Buttttttt  watch me become a Christian.  

And I'm a Christian. 

10

And a 9.

And a 8.

And a 7

6

5

4,3,2,and a 1. 

' Catches breath '   

See that shlt.    I too like to live dangerously.  

Inter denominational. 

Multi denomination at once. 

I crouch down , place my head between my kness. 

Then i simply tilt foward. 

Well thats how i roll.  

phenomenal

Even though trillions of dollars of covid relief bills were signed during both Trump and Biden's terms.

Yes, true, but that's changing the topic.

--> @Shila

I hope the economy doesn’t slip into a recession. 

It will.  Recessions always happen every decade or so.  It's an inevitability of the business cycle.

  I just hope it does quickly.  If the recession can start in 2023 and recover during 2024 that would be perfect for Biden.  

But if the recession starts in 2024 and ends in 2025, we might get President DeSantis.

The democrats will be blamed for overstimulating the economy with all those handouts.

Even though trillions of dollars of covid relief bills were signed during both Trump and Biden's terms.

--> @Shila

RationalMadman: Damage as in not supporting bloodline supremacy?

-> @Shila

That's really reductionist.  Overall, yes, people with degree, on average, earn more.  

But there are millions of people with degrees yet still have basic jobs.  Earning the same, or only slightly more than people with degrees, but they have 20-60k in debt to pay off.  

I'm not against college, but it needs to be done correctly - not just going for the sake of going

It was an monochromatic echo chamber (i.e. age 15-30, male, libertarian).  But I liked it.

--> @Shila

I mean. The study didn't find it cooled off. The study didn't find that at all. In fact, it found it persisted. I think this is because many Twitter accounts are bots.

Also, ICYMI, liberals are just as hateful as conservatives on average. [1]

Liberals tend to want to silence everyone who disagrees with them just as much as Conservatives do. [2]

Personally, I try not to do that. And that is one of the reasons I have decided to stick to this site even though it is very close to a liberal/center-left echo chamber lol.

I also have liberal friends, and I welcome their comments. The thing I have tended to notice, though, is they often do not welcome mine. Some do. But most don't. 

The same thing is true with my conservative friends. Some welcome it. Some don't. 

SOURCES:

[1] https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/09/why-liberals-arent-as-tolerant-as-they-think-215114/

[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7415017/

With tuition costs increasing faster than wages, it's less of a value than it was decades also.  Also, it's less effective at setting people apart.  In the past, if you had a college degree, you were among a small percentage of people.  Now, there are many people with them.

Imo, college is worth it if:

1. You know what you want to do.
   
2. You're majoring in something that's in demand (<10-20% of majors). 
   

Rising tuition costs make high school performance more important.  Someone with a high GPA in high school has access to scholarships.  If I had an offer between taking a $200k loan to go to Harvard vs. going to a public university for free, I would easily take the latter.

You understand neither the meaning of what a troll is or what a tried-and-true racist is. I am neither. You're just an intellectual coward when it comes to the truth about some black Americans, and the divisive rhetoric of race and racism in this country as well. 

Lol. The enlisted guy from the Army loves the “intellectual coward” line. You know all those enlisted guys were paid the big bucks because the were such intellectuals. And he’s the least racist guy you could ever meet, except for Trump of course.

--> @badger

She's been there forever. Part of the furniture I guess. Kinda like you are here. I rarely read your posts. When I do, I don't think much of them. Actually if I were to pick one of you to die, it'd be you, but I'd prefer you both lived forever. Or something. 

seriously, what policy impact is this going to have ?

--> @Shila

Firstly. 

' stands whith arms open ' 

bring it in big fella.     A quick hug.  

You reply was WELLLLLLLL below par.   With a note added made for a hint of ,   ( talking to yourself in the third ) 

Picture me hurting real real bad like from that powerful rebuttal.

Ouch. 

As a fellow Catholic for the last 3 - 4 mins i am going to forgive you for that my brother. 

If you are having trouble with me changing from one religion to the next.  May i suggest you pic it with the transformers noise. 

The entire point of machine learning is turning correlations into predictions. It's very legitimate science that produces seriously impressive things. There's no fallacy here, you're just dumb. I don't even know why you'd be so indignant about this. Colder the country, the more suicides too.

--> @RationalMadman

Nothing of the sort. No corruption, no escalating any war. Just good old Biden and his racist gaffs, not to mention inability to hold a coherent speech but that never held Trump or Bush Jr. back.

1) Yes, all 3 presidents have had gaffes.  Bush, Biden and GW Bush.  But Biden didn't get us into a 2 trillion dollar war in Iraq.  Nor did he try to overturn an election and start an insurrection.

2) Gaffes are literally at the bottom of the totem pole politically.  All that really matters are your executive actions and legislative accomplishments.  None of what you wrote here takes away from his accomplishments.

3) What happened 5, 10, or 20+ years ago isn't relevant.  As president, I only judge them for what they do during their presidential term.

While insulting such a sizable segment of our population, Biden actually went further. He referred to this group of people as “Latinx,” which is a term invented by woke academics who objected to gender-specific words in the Spanish language.

Oh ya, that’s so so offensive to use the term Latinx. Biden is practically the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

Cherrypicking.

RationalMoron is more like it.

This is offensive and toxic, good dramatic example of how to offend people, I see you take after Biden.

--> @Shila

I didn't say remain a atheist. 

I dont have to not not believe in god. 

You dont go from christian to atheist.

Being a atheist fells like nothing until you are asked and or realize you are what they consider a atheist.  

Im a atheist now. 

And now i am a Muslim.  

Buttttttt  watch me become a Christian.  

And I'm a Christian. 

10

And a 9.

And a 8.

And a 7

6

5

4,3,2,and a 1. 

' Catches breath '   

See that shlt.    I too like to live dangerously.  

Inter denominational. 

Multi denomination at once. 

I crouch down , place my head between my kness.  

Then i simply tilt foward. 

Well thats how i roll.  

 

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@Shila

Yup. Tooooootally not relevant at alllllllllll

Definitely.  Paul Volcker, fed chairman in the early 80's, aggressively reduced interest rates.  It caused a sharp recession in 1983, but the economy recovered in 1984.

The question is: Do we do it quickly and have a severe but short recession?  Or do it slowly, and make it take a really long time for the economy to get back to normal?

--> @RationalMadman

Trump actually forced this to happen

Trump and Pompeo made a terrible deal with the Taliban, released 5000 Taliban prisoners, and cut a deal to withdraw that Trump later said he would not have followed through on, putting more American servicemen in danger.

No amount of "Trump never said the n-word" cancels out the fact that he sides with hategroups.

I'll easily contend with progressives, conservatives and independents alike.

• Multiple presidents have intended to get out of the middle east and instead use resources to rebuild our own country's infrastructure.  Biden is the only who actually did it.  
  
• 100 accomplishments in the first 100 days.
  
• Biden passed significant pieces of legislation in a narrowly divided Congress.  Most other presidents with significant legislative achievements have done so with a comfortable majority, but it takes political skill to negotiate with a 50-50 Senate.
  
• First president in history to pass significant legislation toward climate change.
  
• First president in history to actually pass legislation to negotiate drug prices with Medicare.
  

-> @Shila

Ummm, yeah . 

 

I'd  be a Christian , Muslim jew scientologist.. 

Spanning across three holy books 

Well 4 actually,  dianetics is it ? 

Plus,  i just took Allllll  the good shlt from each of them and just put the out dated gay hate /  slave owning /  magical  bullcrap 

Ive looked into the ease of which one can ummm " become " a Christian.  And the other groups. 

Unfortunately  I can't be jewish.  And to be jewish you have to do the ( oddly not so easy )  singing chanting from the book thing.

Buttttt

The absolute  ease of which i can be a Christian and or Muslim,  its incredibly easy. 

Watch me shila. 

And.  Powwwwww. 

See that.

' I am right now a Christian ' 

I will remain a Christian until i send post. 

Oh anddddddddd i am also a Muslim.  

And you know this how?  

Because. ....... I SAID I WAS SOOOOOO I AM. 

This ease of which  i can be a christian from most of the denominations .  may want to be addressed. 

Peoples could actually just like say they are a Christian.

And get this.....   

Get this. 

They could like say they are a Christian and not even be a Christian deep down inside. 

Can i get a  Allah akbar  , amen,  and whatever the scientology lot do. ( Alien overlord ) 

Alien ,Allah  amen akbar. (  thats my chant. ) 

On sending this post i will transformed back into my dead atheist self. 

Good day.