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@Math_Enthusiast
Ten times the money has ten times the buying power.
But Elon Musk did not buy Tesla orSpaceX. He created those companies.
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@Stephen
Red or Golden?Red. High StreetIf I have read you correctly?
What is golden?
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@Best.Korea
It’s called filling occupied space.Sure. Whatever makes you hard.
Filled with bilateral numbers.
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@Math_Enthusiast
- Elon Musk's net worth, 402 billion dollars, in seconds, would be 12739 years. The human era–the period for which humans have been the dominant species on Earth–is estimated at around 12000 years, with the holocene calendar putting us in the year 12025.
How long will Elon Musk live with all those seconds added to his wealth?
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@Savant
Life expectancy has continued to rise.
You have a very positive attitude on life.
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I still love you too you silly faggot, and for addressing me the way you have I order you to wear studded panties for the next week while out and about.
You made one trans happy.
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@n8nrgim
Don't you pay attention to lib talking points or the news? The cost of living is way out of whack. The average house now is 400k, whereas in the 70s it was way less even after inflation. Education costs tens of thousands when before it's a few hundred or thousand, cause they privatized colleges. Healthcare was was less now it's 18% of our gdp, which also isn't competitive with other countries who spend half as much and cover everyone with less wait times and better in general. The minimum wage in the 70s was 15 bucks after inflation and is only 7 and change now. Wages just tread water and have barely gone up after inflation over decades.
That is why they re-elected Trump. Trump said he alone can fix the problem and make America great again.
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@Best.Korea
Got you excited, didn’t it?I was already very excited. My panties are soaked with precum.
It’s called filling occupied space.
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@Math_Enthusiast
The way that I have proposed that we do this also has the nice side effect of potentially making this giant flow of resources even bigger by making investing something you need actual qualifications for while giving the investors the opportunity to invest far more money than they would have been able to otherwise.
What is you economics called?
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@Best.Korea
bilateral testes { external } --ovaries if woman { ergo internal }-- and external penisWell, yes.
Got you excited, didn’t it?
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@Best.Korea
You cant really expect for people to understand your point of view. These are all very rich people who eat a very significant piece of society's cake. You cant expect them to understand those who barely have any cake to eat.
His solution will remove cake from every home.
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@n8nrgim
I personally think we should tax the rich for consumption with their income. the rich borrow money at 1 percent, instead of taking from their investments and incurring a capital gain tax. they escape taxes that way. the rich should pay fifty percent of everything they borrow for personal use, or the highest bracket tax. otherwise the rich will keep escaping paying taxes.
You have been influenced by Al Qaeda.
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@Math_Enthusiast
No, but I can replace an Elon Musk who makes hundreds of billions with an Elon Musk who makes hundreds of thousands.
If you can replace Elon Musk, you can also replace Trump.
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Lol, we aren't. 100 years ago, China was like a flea on our ass. America has let every other nation catch up since we decided to outsource innovation to the government.
Who has the largest army in the world?
Mapped: The World's Largest Armies in 2024
China
China has the largest standing army, with over 2 million active personnel. With increasing defense spending over the last decades, the country also ranks third in the number of tanks and second in the number of aircraft carriers in service.
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@FLRW
Tesla, the most valuable automaker in the world valued at over $1 trillion, did not pay any federal income tax last year.Tesla’s annual financial report, released this morning, shows the company enjoyed $2.3 billion of U.S. income in 2024 on which it reports precisely zero current federal income tax. Over the past three years, the Elon Musk-led company reports $10.8 billion of U.S. income on which its current federal tax was just $48 million. That comes to a three-year federal tax rate of just 0.4 percent – more than 50 times less than the statutory corporate tax rate of 21 percent.
No wonder he looks so happy on stage. No taxes and no alimony payments.
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@cristo71
The guy is just a student.Noted. I am being gentle : )
He thinks student loans are an asset.
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@cristo71
This is a huge flaw in your suggestion.
The guy is just a student. He doesn’t have any investment only student bills.
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@Stephen
Has our resident Reverend had a lie-in today?
He is exercising his free will.
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@Savant
well informed membersOk but he knew the actual name of the principle and you didn't.
Shila made him correct his mistake.
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@Math_Enthusiast
I wanted to throw some numbers down to give some perspective on just how ridiculous the volume of resources he has at his personal disposal is, regardless of what he possibly could have done to earn it.
What Elon Musk has is Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter, plenty of children and money and autism.
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@Mall
Give us your thoughts and questions below.
Owning things after they are paid for is not theft. Nor is paying your taxes theft.
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@Math_Enthusiast
I suggest this video. There is no good reason to believe that the salute wasn't a deliberate signal to the far right.
In the video Elon Musk says his heart goes out to those meaning those with the Heil Hitler salute. Like Trump he wants a united Reich.
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@sadolite
I stated earlier that tariffs were used to compel countries that refused to repatriate.
How does that apply to Mexico, Canada and China?
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@Savant
Is Elon Musk doing more work in one minute than everyone in an average American household combined does in 4.5 years?No. Not sure who is saying that he is though.
His salary earning suggests that. Elon Musk's income in one minute is well over four and a half times the annual income of median household.
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No I messed up. I mean Pascal's wager
That is why DART needs more well informed members like Shila.
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We are currently getting rid of the slave class. Illegal immigrants explored for slave wages and liberals are complaining and say prices will go up. They are saying slave labor benefits us so getting rid of it is bad
Slavery helps Americans to remain colourblind.
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Nobody will ever know what Trump really wants.
Trump says it publicly what he wants. He wants Israel to hand over Garza to him for free since it is 90% rubble. Trump will then relocate the Palestinians in Garza to Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and other neighbouring countries. He will use the USAID money to pay him for rebuilding Gaza. Then he will sell the finished product as beach front homes to the highest bidder and pocket the profits. This will certainly end the war in Gaza.
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His original ideal behind the tarrifs is that he wants to renegotiate every single trade agreement one by one. While previous administrations cared about win win situations, Trump just cares about getting the best deal imaginable for the American people.
Are tariffs good or bad?
The findings suggest that tariffs have a detrimental effect on output, with the negative effect larger for higher tariff increases and persisting over time, at least over the next four years or so. The residualized growth tends to be in negative territory in all four years following an increase in protectionism.
Was Trump's trade war with China successful?
After the trade war escalated through 2019, in January 2020 the two sides reached a tense phase-one agreement. By the end of Trump's first presidency, the trade war was widely characterized as a failure for the United States.
Trump wants to renegotiate his own trade deal with Mexico and Canada that he signed in 2018.
Trump signed onto the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement, or USMCA, in 2018. It took effect in January 2020 and replaced NAFTA.
In 2018, Trump said the USMCA would be “the most modern, up-to-date, and balanced trade agreement in the history of our country, with the most advanced protections for workers ever developed.”
But now, he thinks it can be improved.
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Pareto says that since the reward of believing in Jesus is eternal life and you will die if you are wrong anyway than the rational choice is Christianity.
Are you describing the same thing?
What is Pareto principle in simple words?
The Pareto principle (also known as the 80/20 rule) is a phenomenon that states that roughly 80% of outcomes come from 20% of causes. In this article, we break down how you can use this principle to help prioritize tasks and business efforts.
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@fauxlaw
But so is bitcoin.Just as I said; there's more to investment than the NYSE. But bitcoin, at present, seems too volatile and searching for an identity
Trump endorsed cryptocurrency. That’s a strong identity for starters.
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The first wedge was that liberals got upset when they saw we were colorblind and equality was achieved.
Americans are colourblind. They only see slavery and free Americans.
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They tried to cancel culture him, Trump told the censors to fuck off, he is keeping BigBalls.
Did they exchange Heil Hitler salutes?
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@Best.Korea
President Donald Trump on Monday signed executive orders proclaiming that the U.S. government will recognize only two sexes, male and female ...I am guessing he will remove LGBT education from schools.
eliminating the Department of Education, the latest move by President Donald Trumpto swiftly carry out his campaign promises, two sources ...
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@n8nrgim
The only point I might be wrong is usaid is rooted in statute but I think was created by a president. The president might have more authority than I realize to revoke or modify that. But it's still based in statute and Rubio is trying to utilize congress to amend it instead of relying on trump nullifying the order
Who developed USAID?
President John F. Kennedy
President John F. Kennedy created USAID via executive order at the height of the Cold War in 1961—based on authority provided in the 1961 Foreign Assistance Act—to counter Soviet influence abroad.
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@Best.Korea
Transphobe Elon Musk's investment in MAGA payed off.
Trump’s pick of Elon Musk is paying off too.
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You should think about why that change occurred. Why was the entirety of American culture accepting just 30 years ago?
America was too busy fighting wars to deal with domestic issues. Vietnam, North Korea, Japan, etc.
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@Best.Korea
Or maybe you think people start being gay and trans at age 18?
President Donald Trump on Monday signed executive orders proclaiming that the U.S. government will recognize only two sexes, male and female ...
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@sadolite
Oh Ok, I’ll be sure to avoid those the most.
That is a good starting point.
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Here's a look at Trump orders the courts have halted:
DOGE
Retirees and union members filed a legal challenge to the Treasury Department's decision to allow staffers from Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, access to the federal government’s massive payment and collections system — and the personal data housed in it.
Arguing that the move violated federal privacy laws, they're seeking an order barring DOGE from accessing the data and requiring the return of any data that has already been harvested. The Justice Department has agreed to restrict some access to the systems pending the results of a full hearing on the matter on Feb. 24.
In a related case this week, a group of union members filed a suit seeking to block DOGE, which Trump created, from accessing confidential information from the Labor Department. U.S. District Judge John D. Bates heard arguments in that case Friday and denied the request for a temporary restraining order. He said he had "concerns" about the alleged activity by DOGE but that the plaintiffs had not established standing.
Nineteen states, led by New York, filed a similar suit Friday, arguing Musk's access to personal data was unconstitutional.
USAID
On Thursday night, a pair of unions sued the Trump administration over its efforts to dismantle the U.S. Agency for International Development.
At an emergency hearing Friday in Washington D.C. federal court, U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols said he would pause a midnight deadline for USAID to be stripped down to a few hundred workers. The announcement came just hours before 2,200 USAID employees were scheduled to be placed on administrative leave, which would have taken effect at 11:59 p.m. ET Friday.
Nichols said he would be issuing a “very limited” written temporary restraining order before midnight. The order was issued shortly before 11 p.m.
Government buyouts
As part of Trump's effort to downsize the federal workforce, the Office of Personnel Management recently announced a mass "deferred resignation" program that would allow workers to resign now but get paid through September. The stated deadline to accept the offer was Thursday night, and a senior administration official said earlier in the day that 60,000 people hadaccepted.
Labor unions for federal workers sued to stop the program, arguing that the Trump administration does not have legal authority to offer such buyouts.
A federal judge in Boston blocked the government Thursday from implementing the buyouts until at least Monday, when he will have a hearing on the issue.
One consequence of the judge's order is that it also extended how long workers have to respond to the resignation offer.
“We are grateful to the Judge for extending the deadline so more federal workers who refuse to show up to the office can take the Administration up on this very generous, once-in-a-lifetime offer,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told NBC News in a statement.
Birthright citizenship
One of the most controversial of Trump's executive orders was one called “Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship,” which seeks to restrict birthright citizenship. It seeks to limit such citizenship to people who have at least one parent who is a U.S. citizen or permanent resident, and it says that those born to parents who are in the country legally but temporarily will no longer be automatically guaranteed citizenship, including those with high-skill work visas and student visas.
A number of lawsuits across the country are challenging the order. Federal judges in Maryland and Washington state this week issued nationwide preliminary injunctions blocking it from taking effect.
In his ruling Thursday, U.S. District Judge John C. Coughenour wrote, "Citizenship by birth is an unequivocal constitutional right."
The judge in Seattle wrote, "The President cannot change, limit or qualify this Constitutional right via an executive order."
The Justice Department appealed the Seattle decision Thursday night.
Funding freeze
A pair of federal judges temporarily blocked a federal aid funding freeze directed by the Trump administration in response to his executive orders.
A memo from the Office of Management and Budget last week directed federal agencies to “temporarily pause all activities related to obligation or disbursement of all Federal financial assistance, and other relevant agency activities that may be implicated by the executive orders” pertaining to topics like foreign aid and diversity, equity and inclusion programs.
The memo said the pause would allow the administration to review which programs are “consistent” with Trump’s agenda.
The vaguely worded memo was withdrawn after confusion about what aid would be halted spread and people and organizations reported being unable to access systems to receive federal aid.
In a ruling Friday, U.S. District Judge John J. McConnell in Rhode Island signed off on a temporary restraining order after the memo was withdrawn, noting that Leavitt had tweeted to the public that “This is NOT a rescission of the federal funding freeze. It is simply a rescission of the OMB memo."
The judge found the White House's actions appeared to violate the law. “Federal law specifies how the Executive should act if it believes that appropriations are inconsistent with the President’s priorities — it must ask Congress, not act unilaterally,” he wrote.
Before U.S. District Judge Loren AliKhan issued her ruling Monday in the separate Washington, D.C., case, she noted that even after the memo was withdrawn, there were “individuals who are still having issues accessing funding platforms.”
“That indicates to me the memo is still doing some work,” she said.
Transgender inmates
Another of Trump’s orders targeted transgender inmates, saying the federal Bureau of Prisons was now required to ensure that “males are not detained in women’s prisons.”
That led to two lawsuits filed on behalf of four transgender women prisoners who were scheduled to be transferred to men's facilities. They argued that the order constituted cruel and unusual punishment because they would be at serious risk of violence and sexual assault in a facility for men.
Two judges blocked the inmates from being moved.
In a suit involving three of the prisoners, U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth in Washington, D.C., concluded that “the public interest in seeing the plaintiffs relocated immediately to male facilities is slight at best.”
Lamberth noted that "by the defendants’ own admission, there are only about sixteen male-to-female transgender women housed in female penitentiaries, including the plaintiffs.” He said the government had not even alleged the three prisoners “present any threat to the female inmates housed with them, or that this threat cannot be managed locally by prison staff."
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You seem knowledgeable about this stuff. Why don't you focus on debating and distilling this information instead of your trolling which no doubt wastes hours of your life every day that could be devoted to more interesting pursuits.
Thank you for your advice.
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While pedophiles are one of the most oppressed groups in America even more so than other rapists and serial killers, I do think it's worth it for the betterment of society to oppress certain groups such as pedophiles, rapists, serial killers, trans people, and Juggalos
You should consider yourself an extreme liberal.
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Catholics believe the holy Spirit is God, not sure why you would debate somebody who agrees with you that the Trinity of the Father the son and the holy Ghost are God
Who invented the Trinity in Christianity?
Tertullian
Tertullian (155-200 CE) was the first to use the Latin term 'trinity'. He described it as a "divine economy" as in the household or monarchy of God. God the Father laid out the divine plan, God the Son carried out the will of the Father, and God the Spirit motivated the will of God in believers (Adversus Praxean, 27).
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@whiteflame
GP, when we started this conversation and up to the point that you posted that response, my impression was that we at least had a degree of mutual respect for each other’s positions. That kind of respect, even if it lacks much in the way of agreement, is a prerequisite for me to engage in long form discussions like this in a forum. There’s a reason I haven’t done it in a while.If you want to troll me and be pedantic instead of engaging with my points, then yeah, it might be better for this to end. It’s not the way I wanted it to go, but if we’re going to hit this roadblock again instead of continuing to discuss the policy we’ve both been focused on before that, then it’s probably not worth either of our time.
Too bad, I was starting to enjoy reading your posts.
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@Best.Korea
described her coming out as transgender as being “killed by the woke mind virus.”Clearly a very loving and supportive father.
Even billionaires have to choose.
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It's about protecting children. Apparently putting your dick in 5 years olds is harmful to their physical and mental health
I thought that was confidential stuff B.K shared with you about his mental health.
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@cristo71
Yes
Trump will Make America Gag Again.
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DemocratsSingle moms and sex work is coolAlso DemocratsWell Musk had 12 kids with 3 different women so I see why Christians like him.
Elon Musk supporting a Republican Trump does not know the democrats well.
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He has behaved cruelly is like a lie.She may interpret it that way but it's of course good to opposed things harming your children such as trans ideology which is pedaled by pedophiles as can be seen by the early forefathers of the movement
Elon Musk’s daughter Vivian Jenna Wilson painted a scathing picture of her father in an interview on Thursday, describing the billionaire as a cruel absentee father, who bullied her for appearing queer and feminine, then lied about her medical care as part of his recent turn towards attacking transgender people.
Musk, during a recent interview with psychologist and conservative commentator Jordan Peterson, misgendered Wilson, used her dead name, and described her coming out as transgender as being “killed by the woke mind virus.”
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