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God wasn't the one to end the relationship.

God ended the days in paradise. And brought death into the world.
What did God do to Adam and Eve after sinning?
Subsequently, God banished Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden, condemned Adam to work in order to get what he needed to live and condemned Eve to give birth in pain, and placed cherubim to guard the entrance, so that Adam and Eve would never eat from the "tree of life".

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@zedvictor4
Yep, marriage is either a binding contract under State Law.

Or not worth the paper it's written on.
What about the marriages made in heaven?
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@Tradesecret
The NT sign of the covenant is baptism.  Same as Jesus also said this is the new covenant - when he ate the bread and drank the wine - referring to himself at the last supper.  the New Covenant which is what Christians - whether Jew or Gentile follow. Circumcision, the old sign, puts one under the law. Baptism puts one under grace.  

Matthew5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill 
Jesus could not abolish the old covenant of circumcision made by God, nor could he change it by replacing the covenant with a new one.

The covenant of circumcision was made between God and Abraham. Baptism is a covenant made with Jesus.
But since Jesus never baptized anyone. That covenant was never established.

The gospels give no indication of Jesus ever baptizing. Many of his disciples were baptized first by John, but both Orthodox and Protestants agree this was a baptism of repentance from sin, in preparation for Jesus' ministry, of whom John said would baptize with the Holy Spirit.
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@Tradesecret
We say that God's rules of ethics and morals and justice belong to him, and not the same as humanity. God is never and can never be held to a human account.
Romans 9:
30 What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith;
31 but the people of Israel, who pursued the law as the way of righteousness, have not attained their goal.
32 Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone.
The verses prove the Jews were punished for both following gods commandment and by works unlike the gentiles who only pursued it by faith.

Jesus concludes by saying that many are called/invited to the kingdom, but only those who have been “chosen” and have received Christ will come.
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@Lemming
I assume Humanistic Organizations usually have the goals of making specific human activities and standards of life more prevalent.
People act to fulfill needs. Maslow's theory explained that every person is born with a set of basic needs: (1) physiological, (2) safety (3) belongingness or love, (4) self-esteem, and (5) self-actualization. He theorized that higher needs emerge as the lower-level needs are met.
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@CatholicApologetics
From a Catholic perspective, “spiritual death” refers to the loss of sanctifying grace and the original state of holiness—an interior rupture in one’s relationship with God—rather than a complete cessation of religious devotion or inability to worship. Adam and Eve, while they continued to believe in and teach their children about God, no longer enjoyed the fullness of communion with Him as they did in Eden. Their eventual physical death, along with the trials their descendants faced, flowed from this initial spiritual rupture. Thus, “dying on that day” should be understood in its deeper theological sense, where the immediate effect was the forfeiture of intimate friendship with God and the beginning of mortal existence apart from Eden’s privileges.
God paid an even higher price for ending his relationship with Adam and Eve. He had to offer his son as sacrifice to bring the descendants of Adam and Eve back to heaven.
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@Best.Korea
It’s a way to avoid US sanctions.
Ukraine wants to do a prisoner swap. Koreans for Ukrainian. What will the ratio be?
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@FLRW
I do pushups against the wall. I'm as old as Trump and this is how I look.
You won’t find Trump baring his chess anytime soon.
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@Best.Korea
If you are a Christian, are you responsible for what every other Christian does?

Am I responsible for someone else's salvation?
Yes, God will examine our works to see who we brought to Christ. While we do not “save” anyone, God does that, we have to do our part to help each other keep and find the faith.

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@Mall
Nope , never stated any of those words the way you put it. 

Put what you said side by side to what I stated and do a comparison. Two different paragraphs. You either want to learn something or reject what somebody tells you because you already decided the answer for yourself.
God took the salvation of the Romans who crucified Jesus seriously.

Roman Catholicism traces its history to Jesus during the period of Roman occupation in the early 30s of the Common Era. Over a period of years after Jesus' life and death his followers spread out across the world to form a “universal” (Greek, katholikos) church with the bishop of Rome holding primacy.
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Califirenia
This is what a real Democrat leader looks like. Not some Trump wannabe. He makes the real choices with big balls.
Trump appreciates big balls.
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@Best.Korea
Its just like real push ups, but with less weight being pushed.

Simply, you push wall instead of pushing floor.
Is that what you learnt from your military training?
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@Lemming
Hm, your meaning escapes me.

Do you mean that people can only realize ideals when they have money in the bank,
When their basic needs are met?

Or do you mean that just 'living and basic needs are not enough for the human?


People act to fulfill needs. Maslow's theory explained that every person is born with a set of basic needs: (1) physiological, (2) safety (3) belongingness or love, (4) self-esteem, and (5) self-actualization. He theorized that higher needs emerge as the lower-level needs are met.
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So we are led to believe.  Bit its not as straightforward as they will have us believe. John was a resident of Bethany near the Jordan. The reference to "the desert" also called the "wilderness" means Galilee.

What is the story of Jesus baptism by John?
In those days Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee and was baptised by John in the Jordan. And just as he was coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens torn apart and the Spirit descending like a dove on him. And a voice came from heaven, “You are my Son, the Beloved; with you I am well pleased.

Did John first raised the concept of the trinity?

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@zedvictor4
Hi Lemming.

Take human and stick ist on the end.

Should be self explanatory.

Everyone is a human first and a theist second.

It's innate.

Though some like to think otherwise.
You need to be a human first to accept sin. Then become a theist to overcome sin.
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@Best.Korea
I think that muscles will take a bit more effort.
AI said that 60 push ups against wall per day are good enough.
It took less to bring the walls of Jericho down.
According to Joshua 6:1–27, the walls of Jericho fell after the Israelites marched around the city walls once a day for six days, seven times on the seventh day, with the priests blowing their horns daily and the people shouting on the last day.
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@Mall
Salvation according to the scriptures takes God working in a person to be worked out. When somebody is serious or takes salvation seriously, it is God working out the soul salvation in an individual.
So you are claiming God took the salvation of the Romans who crucified Jesus seriously and helped them establish the Roman Catholic Church and offering salvation with his authority.
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Good point.
Which for me raises another point, Shila.
What was the original invocation in the days of John the Baptist?
What invocation did John the Baptist use when baptised Christ?
And what was the invocation that John the Baptist was using before Jesus even appeared on the scene?
John the Baptist, who lived in the wilderness of Judea, was a prophet and a preacher who prepared people for Jesus, the Messiah.

Did God send John the Baptist?
The gospels and the Jewish historian Josephus make it clear that with the appearance of John a prophet has arisen in Israel for the first time in over 400 years. This is why the crowds were drawn to him. After centuries of waiting, God had sent a prophet, and not just any prophet.

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@Best.Korea
That also means that if I ever do something stupid like allow users like Shila or best Korea to dominate discussions
I guess I shouldnt be allowed to speak due to my brain disorders, but it’s kinda nice to be able to.
I guess with your brain disorder there can only be one left to dominate discussions.
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@Best.Korea
Thats good, but I read somewhere that 2 training sessions are ideal.
You also read somewhere that being trans would increase your IQ.
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@CatholicApologetics
From a Catholic perspective, the “death” God warned of was both spiritual and eventual physical death. Though Adam and Eve remained physically alive that day, they immediately lost the original holiness and communion with God (spiritual death). This separation inevitably led to their mortal condition (physical death). God did not lie; rather, His warning encompassed the deeper reality that sin ruptures our relationship with Him and brings lasting consequences, culminating in the loss of access to the Tree of Life, which symbolized eternal union with God.

Adam and Eve did not die spiritually. They continued to worship God even after being expelled from the Garden.

What did Adam and Eve teach their children?
Implicit in the Genesis stories is the fact that Adam and Eve not only gave birth to these sons, but they also loved them, raised them, and instructed them in the primeval faith. Adam and Eve taught their children to pray and to live the good life of faith, even if Cain chose to shirk it (see Wis 10:1–3; 1 Jn 3:2).

Their children continued to worship God. In the biblical Book of Genesis, Cain and Abel are the first two sons of Adam and Eve. Cain, the firstborn, was a farmer, and his brother Abel was a shepherd. The brothers made sacrifices, each from his own fields, to God.

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At Baptism, the guilt of original sin is indeed washed away and sanctifying grace is imparted, making us adopted children of God. However, concupiscence (the inclination to sin) remains, so we still struggle with temptation. This does not mean the unbaptized lack free will; all human beings retain the natural capacity to make moral decisions. Baptism restores us to a state of grace that empowers our will in a deeper, supernatural way but does not create free will where it did not exist before.

In fact, some scholars point to the Pauline letters for evidence that early Christians were baptized in the name of Jesus, not the Trinity. The Catholic Encyclopedia, for example, states that "The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century."
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@Tradesecret
The point is God gave salvation to all those people who are of the "Israel of God". It is for persons who have circumcised hearts, not necessarily circumcised foreskins. 
The covenant of circumcision still stands as written.

The commandment to circumcise was a covenant made with Abraham and is recorded in Genesis 17:10–14, reading: 'And God spoke to Abraham saying: … This is my covenant which you shall keep between me and you and thy seed after you — every male child among you shall be circumcised. '

Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Jews still honour the covenant by continuing to circumcise their foreskin. Christians don’t have a covenant with God.

Jesus did not form a new covenant with Christians with his death. His death was a result of nonbelievers.
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@Tradesecret
We don't get the Holy Spirit to enter us. He's God. He's not on a string. John 3:5-9 tells us that the Spirit goes where the Spirit desires. Not where we desire. He's like the wind. It blows where ever it pleases. 
There would be no reason to hold people responsible for believing or failing to believe in Jesus if the unregenerate person cannot actually believe. If God is the one who imparts faith to the unbeliever, then the responsibility to believe lies not with man but with God, and therefore, God can have no basis on which to judge people for failing to believe.

If faith is a gift, then many commands in Scripture that exhort, command, prompt, and warn believers to live obediently become superfluous because the ultimate end of infused faith guarantees the sanctification of believers without their involvement (Lopez, “Is Faith a Gift From God?” 275).

So for biblical, theological, and practical reasons, we conclude that faith is not automatic, nor is faith a gift from God.

Faith comes through hearing the Word of God, through the convicting and drawing work of the Holy Spirit, and through responding to the revelation that one has already received from God.

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@Best.Korea
Why would you want a free country like Japan to be a part of North Korea?
Japan has huge debt and lowest birth rates in the world, so it will eventually collapse, which is a shame.
Japans death is owned by the Japanese people. Japan is also the 2 largest holder of US treasury bonds.
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@Mall
Here's an example. God says besides him there is no savior. But the scripture also teaches the son to be the savior.
How can salvation be taken seriously when those promoting salvation Jesus and his disciples were all martyred? The only ones seeing any signs of salvations were the Romans who crucified Jesus and killed his disciple to go on to creating the Roman Catholic Church offering salvation to the world.
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@Best.Korea
Everyone is different and unequal
Contrary to popular YouTube belief, Communism has nothing to do with making all people equal.

Does communism promote equity?
Hence the "equality" in a communist society is not about total equality or equality of outcome, but about equal and free access to the articles of consumption. Marx argued that free access to consumption would enable individuals to overcome alienation.

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Therefore one might suggest that the US president wields too much decision making authority.
The supreme Court, Congress and Senate can overrule a lot of their decisions but yes whatever party that is out of power always believes the president has too much
Trump has used more presidential powers than any other president to benefit himself.
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@FLRW
Thanks for thinking that my pole is great!
Use it as an aspirational goal.
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@Best.Korea
I made it simple for myself. I know some people train for an hour every day, but I think thats too much for a beginner like me. Plus, 10 minutes is easy, especially when divided on 5 minutes two times a day. This was made so I dont give up.
How about dividing the 10 minute workout to 1 minute workout or 10 workouts a day?  That would make it appear like a full day workout. Yet easy to handle each minute.
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@Best.Korea
I can wish to be born in Japan while admitting the superiority of North Korea. Besides, maybe Japan will be part of North Korea in the future.
Why would you want a free country like Japan to be a part of North Korea?
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@CatholicApologetics
Catholic teaching holds that God gifted humanity with free will from the very beginning, as shown by Adam and Eve’s capacity to make a real choice—obey or disobey God’s command. While the tree represented an experiential knowledge of good and evil that God wished to protect them from, it did not negate their pre-existing moral freedom. By succumbing to the serpent’s deception, Adam and Eve misused the very free will God bestowed on them—proving that the faculty to choose, for good or ill, was already theirs by divine design.
God lied to Adam and Eve when he told them.
Genesis 2:17
But you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for on the day you eat from it, you will certainly

Because they ate the fruit and did not die. But became like Gods knowing good and evil.

Then God brought death into the world by denying them access to the tree of life.
Genesis 3:22
The LORD God said, “Since man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil, he must not reach out, take from the tree of life, eat, and live forever.”




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@Tradesecret
The Jews kept the covenant with God and to this day perform circumcision. in return God promised to take these people as His chosen nation and bless them with health, prosperity, and protection from other nations if they will obey Him – and the following commands, ordinances, and religious observances are the details of what He requires them to obey.
They even crucified Jesus to help him fulfill the prophesies his death would bring.
Circumcision was just one part of the covenant. It expressly stipulated loyalty to God. To obey all his commandments. They didn't obey all of the commandments. 
In addition to the covenant of circumcision the Jews obeyed 613 commandments that included dietary restrictions and dos and don'ts
Killing Jesus wasn't part of the covenant. Nor did they have a clue that killing Jesus would fulfill prophecies. In fact they would deny that was the case since they deny he was the Messiah. 
Jesus had to die to fulfill all the types, promises, and prophecies of the Old Testament. From God's promise to provide a sacrifice (Genesis 22:8-14),
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The Bible is made up of 66 books. So except for Luke and Job the rest of the Bible were written by Jewish authors. Yet the Jews were not awarded any compensation for their contribution. Even Trump cashed in on Bible sales.
I notice you didn't provide any evidence of a copyright.  Interestingly enough, most of the NT writers were Jews who converted to Christianity, And were Christians when they wrote the NT. So there were no Jewish non-Christians who wrote any of the NT.  And the Christians will all receive their rewards in heaven. Indeed even as the writers of the OT will too.   So in fact your statement that the Jews were not awarded any compensation is nonsensical.  Rupert Murdoch owns Zondervan, or at least he used too. Some have suspected he is a Jew. 
Jesus even said he was sent only to save the Jews.
Matthew 15:24 
Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God's lost sheep—the people of Israel.” 

But that did not stop the Christians from stealing salvation from the Jews.

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@Best.Korea
Pleasure
You earned you points again.
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@zedvictor4
Hey, is that what's known as changing the subject.
No, that is showing the odds Trump is against.
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@tigerlord
Good starting point. Did God die for humanity? Or is salvation fake?
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Aren’t you addressing Korea and not Japan. Is that an identity crisis.?
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@FLRW
Tru-dat!
You cannot compete with the pole in front of you. Give up!
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@Best.Korea
Maybe because you spend too much time being intelligent and no time being likeable.
I guess I should also invest in being likeable, but it’s hard when I dont know what all other people like.
At least you know what they don’t like about you.
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@zedvictor4
Not sure if worms ever had comparative brain power.

Though like worms we function as per coding.

Though unlike worms we also like to think that we don't.
You appear to be competing against worms.
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@Best.Korea
You conquered Debateart according to Wylted.
Conquering Debate art was easy, but maybe conquering the world will be harder because I have difficulty in getting people to like me. Most people want to just complain all day and make trash decisions, but I have something different for the world in plan.
So you are not likeable. Maybe because you spend too much time being intelligent and no time being likeable.
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@zedvictor4
I think that at the end of the day, just like the rest of us, it depends more upon diet, activity and genetics.
Gun violence makes America different.
60% of gun deaths are suicide and 37% are homicide — including the 1% of mass shootings. The remaining 3% of gun deaths include law enforcement involved ...
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@zedvictor4
Thing is, the majority of people are perhaps surplus to requirements anyway.

Who knows why we bother to do stuff.

Intelligence  now exceeds most human computers.
Intelligence is not enough. One has to be productive too.
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They look like simple goals even for someone with your disability.
They were made to turn me into a stronger and smarter person. Now I am just 120 IQ, which isnt enough if my goal is to conquer the world.
You conquered Debateart according to Wylted.
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@zedvictor4
Should do.

Though not guaranteed.
Remember Trump lives in America which is a violent country.
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@zedvictor4
No they don't.

The owe their growth to rigidly oppressive autocracies.

The workers never get a look in.

Communist bullshit baffles brains.
So does their success.
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@Best.Korea
Here are 7 simple goals I have set:

1. Gain weight by eating lots of calories 

2. Eat lots of protein

3. Drink 666 milliliters of water every hour.
Drink water before sleep and after waking up

4. Limit training to 60 push ups against wall per day.

5. Only do little training per day. No more than 10 minutes per day, but train every day.

6. Dont train in morning. Wait for 8 hours after you wake up before starting training.


7. Dont do 60 push ups against wall all at once but wait for 8 hours after you wake up to do 30 , then do 30 before sleep.
They look like simple goals even for someone with your disability.
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@zedvictor4
Communism Capitalism.

Eat, shit work and die.

Don't forget to procreate.

And sleep for about 33% of it.

What bit of time you have left, you can spend on DebateArt.
It’s a good thing you will remain unknown.
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@zedvictor4
China has the Moon now I suppose.

And Trump will be dead soon.
Xi Ping will definitely outlive Trump.
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