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@EtrnlVw
Brain activity has been detected up to ten minutes after death and seems to be more alert moments after death by a flood of chemicals entering the body. NDE's happening 4 minutes after death are to be expected. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/life-after-life-does-consciousness-continue-after-our-brain-dies
NDE's are interesting but it is not evidence for an after life. In fact I think NDE's as evidence is just an attempt to cherry pick data to confirm biases, and not a legitimate attempt to understand whether there is actually an afterlife or not, which is why all attempts to read a card after a patient has been put under, and have had their heart removed, has failed.
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@EtrnlVw
1.Personal experience/intuition/observation2.Correlated sources3.Correlating evidence4.Cross referencing sources5.Spirituality
1. personal/experience is not persuasive to me, and I think it should be left out of the discussion, unless you have some way to show that it is something I can replicate and trust the results of. I don't think you would trust my personal experiences to guide you in your beliefs either.
2. correlated sources- If you have sources that correlate these facts, I would appreciate if you provide me with the sources or tell me where to find them, so I have the opportunity to gain the same knowledge that you apparently have.
3. What evidence? Saying you have evidence is not convincing, you need to show evidence to be persuasive.
4. I'm not sure what this even means.
5. spirituality seems like the personal experience argument and can probably be lumped in with that.
Are you asking me for a formal debate? I don't have the time to commit to that so if you'd like we can discuss it here. I'm pretty familiar with it.
Yes I was asking for a formal debate, but we can discuss it here in a more relaxed fashion. No big deal. The problem I find with NDE's is that they seem to just be a psychological phenomenon, like dreaming that happens when your pineal gland responds to trauma by sending out chemicals that simulate light to your minds eye, and you can basically dream more vividly. I believe I have ran into some studies cited in the book "SpooK" by Mary Roach where experimenters have put cards on the ceiling during surgeries, to see if they could be recalled when people claimed to have had NDE's and the experiencer has failed to recall the specific card 100% of the time.
NDE's caused by a psychological phenomenon, and not be evidence of an after life.
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@Barney
I think refraining from obvious logical fallacies such as bare assertions which are common place on this board should be included in the guide as well.
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@EtrnlVw
Actually I just noticed you mentioned NDEs. For you debate. I think NDEs as evidence would be a fun debate topic. If not I can just write about it here
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@EtrnlVw
You asserted consciousness cannot be destroyed. What are your premises for this?
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@disgusted
Cause I might be having sex or something when the time comes, and if I can push it back to just after the orgasm, it would be better.
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Water look me in the eyes and tell me you are town.
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@Lunatic
I"m also not getting lynched. Water was caught, also even if we assume water is town (which he isn't), than we still have drafter to contend with, who did not make emoji eyes earlier
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@TheRealNihilist
Yeah, hopefully I can find all my future profile pics on this page
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First thread plus post all transhumanist art here please
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Guys. Ai am town. With 3 scum left, lynching me would lose you the game. I think it is pretty clear water is scum, but there is no harm in waiting a Dp. I am not stupid enough to fake claim both watcher and doctor, knowing that would be not 1 but 2 potential CCs. I certainly would not do it DP1. I also think that water is a strong man. Get his claim and see if it is something that can be confirmed in the NP, if not than just do the common sense thing and lynch him
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This is the problem with male dominated games. You guys are stubborn. SMH
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@Speedrace
Water is scum confirmed. I literally watched him NK NK greyparrot, you are being ridiculous sweetheart.
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Anyway good night. Hopefully when I wake up, water is lynched and we can start going after other scum
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@Speedrace
I dont think making zero obvious slips makes you town lol
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There was no need to role block me anyway if they have something like an x shot strong man or something and saw I went with the doctor last NP, especially since they failed last time they attempted to kill greyparrot.
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I think it is more likely you are ascetic than they have a role blocker
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@Mopac
Do you think Santa exists?
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If this is the only lynch we can get whatever. I am starting to think all the active people other than speed are town anyway.
UNVOTE VTL PRESS
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@Mopac
Define ultimate reality without using the word truth, since you seem unaware what that definition is either
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@Mopac
How would you think that reality is a conscious being that created the universe LOL. You are not making sense
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@Speedrace
Cartman had an episode where he pretended to be a cop. Pulling people over and asking g them to respect his athoritah
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@Mopac
God is not "The Truth". That is a silly definition. A better definition would be the omnipotent intelligent creator of the universe.
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@Mopac
God certainly was not invented.
Prove it
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I think the statement "Islam is right about women" is meant to bring about cognitive dissonance on the part of some liberals who idolize certain special groups of people. While Republicans are unfairly in my opinion are said to favor large corporations, many liberals favor any group they view as a minority. They see "victim" as a label to show the superiority of one group over another, by elevating women and Muslims to the status of victim, they also see believe neither group is capable of large scale collective wrongs. Only white male, christians can be capable of large scale wrongs, so when it is pointed out that Muslims have a religion that is clearly anti feminist than it hurts these particular liberals, and they are forced to attack their own belief system that their declared victims are completely innocent of any large scale wrong doing (As they define wrong doing). When confronted with the statement "Islam is right about women", They can not say what their gut reaction tells them to, and the cognitive dissonance often washes over their face. After biting their tongue to tell the speaker he is wrong, they call him racist or sexist.
I think Bill Maher talks a lot about this cognitive dissonance, when he discusses radical islam, and even he realizes what most muslims would consider moderate is still pretty radical by Western standards.
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@Alec
The difference may be that Christians don't read the bible, while Muslims become immersed in their holy book. If both holy books say equally disgusting things, the religion with more adherents who actually read the book, are probably going to have more people applying that disgusting belief system.Your right on this, but both call for violence.
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Well, at the very least it would be nice to choose when I die
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@Lunatic
Wow, that actually does look suspect. I am willing to help here, but would like to explore speed as a possibility as well. unvote VTL Drafter
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I think this is the "true world" theory that many long debunked philosophies talk about. The term "ultimate reality" is either a semantic trick meant to literally change the meaning of words. I assume what we perceive in our daily lives is the ultimate reality, and honestly the phrase needs rto be better explained, but I feel it won't be broken down for us, because ambiguity allows him to hide from any argument you make, A type of moving the goal post fallacy
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@Lunatic
Thoughts on drafter and his very sudden change of heart about lynching inactives?
I wasn't trying to think about it, because it would require me to scroll that game to see the complete context, and I am a very busy lady.
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@Athias
I think that 100% of people should see a psychologist from time to time. Very few are competent, I recommend shopping around
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@Athias
That is silly. Not everybody displaying a symptom or even multiple symptoms of early onset schizophrenia will have it.
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@Mopac
Damn you guys are different users? And no mentally I'll is not an insult, any more than recognizing somebody has a broken arm is an insult. I honestly think it is bigoted of you to say it is an insult as if mentally Ill people are less human than you.
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@Athias
Have you seen his posts where he says stuff like
Earth = /////\\\\\\☆☆☆☆☆
This is a clear example of word salad, he also says stuff like God is truth, with truth being defined as "an honest statement". No,honest statements are not divine, even if the divine does make them, the statement itself is not a God lol.
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@Athias
Um word salad is a symptom https://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-word-salad.html
Also I am not presenting a diagnosis. Just because he has displayed symptoms of early onset schizophrenia does not mean he has it, which is why it is a good ideal to seek help, and I say "before it is too late" because if medicated early, schizophrenia can be a non issue in somebody's life, so yes if you see somebody displaying obvious symptoms you have a moral obligation to point them towards help
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@Vader
Yeah I understand that. I haven't publicly mentioned any desire to do so
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@MisterChris
Sweetheart, you are not a middle man. I am happy you got the role though, you seem humble and hopefully you possess the qualities I listed.
Thinking of yourself as a middleman is not a good mindset. Just think about how you can best serve the community and act in accordance. ImO
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@Mopac
I don't disagree with that. I don't have enough information to know if it is true or not, all I know is I have been helped a lot by MODERN psychology, and it may help you as well.
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@David
This is a young crowd and I don't mean to nit pick, but if this is viewed as a promotion or a demotion by the moderators, it is a serious issue. Ideally it is viewed as a role acquisition and nobody thinks they are above anyone else in any sort of hierarchical sense.
I have personally held many leadership roles,and even when technically above people in a hierarchical sense, I have always strived to be a servant leader.
I would advise putting people in positions of influence based on how seriously they take the ideal of servant leadership.
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@Mopac
I legitimately have mental deficiencies. It is not offensive to point them out, and I certainly hope not against any terms of service. This site seems to be geared towards us growing to strengthen these deficiencies, so I want mine pointed out.
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