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Good for them. Hopefully the rest of the world follows suit.
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"Getting theology from YouTube is like getting news from a politician."
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@RationalMadman
Are you Scottish-phobic if the thought of eating haggis makes you gag, or cat-and-chalkboard-phobic if a cat dragging its claws on a chalkboard makes you cringe? Probably not.
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@Sir.Lancelot
I don't know what the Dhar Mann situation is, and I don't really care. His videos are completely unwatchable. Blatant clickbait, the worst acting imaginable, moronic scripts, simplistic morals, and a grating, narcissistic sense of self-importance. And yet, somehow, that gets millions of views. The only thing Dhar Mann is good for is proving that humanity really is just that dumb.
Now let me tell you how I really feel...
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@ILikePie5
I personally thought the theme wasn’t hard to find but scum never tried to solve it, and it burned them in the back at the end.
I'm kind of surprised you didn't tell them what the theme was.
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@whiteflame
Yeah, I think it was a mistake to claim your character that early. With that set of information, it was obvious who you were and that you were the Cop.
I actually did not notice that Lombardo (and therefore Austin) was a cop, contrary to your guesses in the game. Once I figured out his governor, I stopped reading Lombardo's bio.
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@RationalMadman
Had your theme guess been wrong and implicated different people, it wouldn't have changed my reads. I'm never certain of scumreads, but that time I was.
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@Barney
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
You guys completely fooled me. That was a good joke. I'll be laughing at it in about an hour when it sinks in.
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@ILikePie5
Well, no point in dragging it out then. VTNL
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@Barney
@whiteflame
I can't tell if you're serious or joking. If serious, what was I supposed to do against a necromancer?
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Assuming that one of you isn't scum and I just got sold down the river.
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@RationalMadman
I think that's the theme. Good idea.
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@RationalMadman
Mike Dewine is on 2. Last one: Tony Evers is on 2.
Wylted, Barney, and Whiteflame's governors are the only ones who have served more than 2 terms.
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@RationalMadman
Phil Scott (WF) is on his 4th. Greg Abbott (Barney) is on his third.
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@RationalMadman
Wylted's governor, Jay Inslee, is on his third.
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Newsom is at 2. Whitmer is at 2. Lombardo is on his first. That accounts for all the dead town.
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@RationalMadman
Mine is. Ron DeSantis, who was town, is. Jay Inslee is on his third term.
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@RationalMadman
Jay Inslee, Wylted's character, ran for president. While some of the others are planning to run, I don't think any of them have officially done so. That's the only thing that sticks out to me at the moment.
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@RationalMadman
This is easily a bus by SA, easily the only thing is what use is GP's role if Town lacked a watcher and tracker both?
If I am scum, which I'm not, I think GP would have to be as well. My role doesn't require his to exist, but his role is completely pointless without mine.
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@RationalMadman
so you weren't jailkept np2?whiteflame never ever once claimed to jailkeep you np2. What is it you are implying there?
My action did fail, so I assume that I must have been roleblocked/jailkept NP2. In order for that theory to be correct, it requires that WF a) did nothing NP1 and b) lied about he he jailkept.
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@RationalMadman
why are you so sure he will hammer?
I'm not sure, but he voted WF earlier this DP, so I'm guessing he's willing to.
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@RationalMadman
Could be. I didn't consider roleblockers when I decided not to do anything NP1.
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@RationalMadman
this is mathematically nonsense, since by this logic the better Town is doing if they lynched Scum dp2 for instance, the logic you use would paralyse you to not track np2 either.
The math for tracking is the same, but the gamble changes. The fewer players there are, the more likely it is that either I will be lynched/NK'ed or the game will end.
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@RationalMadman
@Greyparrot
@ILikePie5
Let's do it then. VTL Whiteflame
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@RationalMadman
The vastly unlikely and completely impossible descriptions were my opinions before taking into account Barney's failure to hammer. After taking it into account, you are correct that both are impossible.
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@Greyparrot
Yes to both. In fact, unless either of you have any further input, I think we should go ahead and lynch WF.
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Scumread time.
I'm townreading RM. Scum is between WF, GP, and Barney. I'm 90% sure that it is WF and Barney.
There are only three possible scum teams: WF-GP, WF-Barney, and Barney-GP. We can eliminate Barney-GP (and the vastly less likely Barney-RM and the completely impossible Barney-SA) with almost absolute certainty. Earlier in the DP, there were two votes on WF. If Barney was scum with anyone other than WF, he would have hammered and instantly won the game. The fact that he didn't do so proves that, if Barney is scum, he must be scum with WF. WF-GP can't be completely disregarded, but I think it comes close. If Whiteflame and GP were scum, it seems highly unlikely that GP would vote for WF in any circumstance. Now, there is the possibility that GP is bussing, but I don't think it's too likely. This leaves only WF-Barney.
I also have a second line of reasoning. As demonstrated above, if Barney is scum, then he is scum with WF. I believe we can be very confident that Barney is scum based on his behavior this DP. He has said that he strongly townreads me and RM. It necessarily follows that he thinks GP and WF are scum. However, he has been remarkably unwilling to vote for WF. WF was at two votes, Barney has every reason to believe that WF is scum, yet he refused to vote him. Even now, while he says that he thinks GP and WF are scum, he is prefers to vote for GP. He is behaving exactly like mafia trying to save their partner.
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If there are any other questions I missed, let me know. I wasn't tagged in them if there were, and I don't feel like rereading the whole DP just to find them.
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@RationalMadman
Run me through the reasoning again, of why you did not track NP1
The more players that are in the game, the lower my chances of tracking scum. Thus, I would be more likely to get useful information if I used my 2 shots in later DPs. Of course, I was gambling that the game would last to DP4 and that I would still be alive. That was a gamble I was willing to take.
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@RationalMadman
Finally back on.
Scum can kill and roleblock st the same time... are you trolling with that worry?
You are entirely correct that they can do that. I forgot.
why were you not roleblocked np3? Give a scum reasoning not to.My theory?Whiteflame is a 2x roleblocker and did rb that2 np1.
Your theory would be my first guess. I have three other theories.
1. Mafia's roleblocker is a JOAT who only had 1x RB.
2. Barney is a yakuza. He recruited Whiteflame, who actually is a 1x jailbreaker, and is out of shots.
3. Paranoia about badger's High Noon claim. He never actually explained how it supposedly worked or how many shots he supposedly had. Mafia could have been concerned that he had multiple shots and could activate them at any time. If that had been the case, there was a risk that (for example) Whiteflame and badger shot each other and both died. However, if badger was RB'ed, that risk was eliminated, so it could make sense to both NK and RB him at the same time.
That last theory is less likely.
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@whiteflame
I will get to all your questions, but I won't have time until this evening.
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@Greyparrot
Scum is likely between you, WF, and Barney. Pick two.
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The fact that Wylted has an investigator proof role does make it less likely that there's a ninja, though.
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@whiteflame
Wrong knight.
As for your points against me, you realize that I was first and longest on the lynch against Wylted, right? In DP1, I got on his lynch wagon and never left. I also stated early in DP2 that I was absolutely fine lynching him, but that I wanted to consider all of our options.
You're smart enough to bus.
I'll also note that, at the time, Badger had claimed that he would die the next day at noon by his Vig. I had been interested in seeing that out.
I'll look at that tomorrow.
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@RationalMadman
GP being scum means the theme was male democrats and that mafia got away with a fakeclaim.
That2 was Gavin Newsome, D-California, so that theme doesn't work.
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Also, nobody vote until town is ready to agree on a lynch, or mafia can win with a quickhammer.
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Based off the results of the wagon DP3 and their behavior, I was absolutely convinced that Whiteflame and Barney were scum. However, Barney visiting no one has me questioning that conclusion, but not to a huge degree. Mafia almost certainly has a role blocker, since my action failed NP2. Thus, one of them role blocked and one of them NK'ed, so both scum must have visited someone. So how can Barney be scum? The most likely answer is that he is a ninja. However, I can't discount the possibility that Greyparrot is mafia and not Barney. RM could be pulling the long con, but I find that enormously unlikely.
I realized that I haven't explained clearly why I scumread Whiteflame and Barney. Basically, neither of them voted for Wylted until he'd already been hammered. The more I've thought about it, the more I agree with RM's initial behavioral read on Whiteflame. It took a while to admit to myself that RM had a point. As for Barney, I noticed that his behavior has followed a pattern that someone (I forget who) used to catch me once when I was scum. That is, scum hunting based on who has bad logic rather than who is behaving scummy. In DP1, I was willing to lynch Best.Korea even though he was a null read because I only had one real scum read. Barney, however, was strongly scumreading him because of the bad logic he was using.
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