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@triangle.128k
Sleep also causes changes to one's mind and brain chemistry. This alone isn't sufficient to substantiate a "problem." You'll have to elucidate what you mean.The problem I see with LSD, as stated by others, is the changes it causes to one's mind and brain chemistry.
Do you claim that LSD causes long term brain damage? Permanent post-synaptic receptor downregulation (ie stable tolerance)?
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@Imabench
Without meaning to suggest the obvious, how did you define "acid"
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Me analysing set up would imo be a fair scum tell if I actually knew what it was. I didn't, but budda did so the fact that i was on the money looks like too much info to a mod who already knows.
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@Mopac
It sounds like you've had a messed up history.
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@Mopac
psychology is about taking those experiences you had, comparing them to thousands of other cases and finding out what is statistically the most common experience.
psychiatry is a field of medicine.
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@RationalMadman
you're unblocked. I put the block in place to stop you sending me messages that I didn't want to read.
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@RationalMadman
Bruh you were after GP, an obvs townie. You missed virt being an obvs scum and you never voted for me cuz you had too many better targets. GP was the only person who noticed some of the obvious shit I was pulling so if anyone I think he gets town mvp.
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@David
I cant believe it either, but I think you made a compelling jester so i did my best to give that theory as much credit as possible. I knew from the outset that i could win with tp so i was trying to tell you i was the mafia.
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@Buddamoose
I ran with 1 tp 1 mafia only after setting up the jester panic. Virt was trying to get lynched so it made sense.
I think the jester panic was why he survived when he shouldve been lynched. That was chaos...
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This game was absolutely hilarious. Virt outed himself and I was full of shit the whole game and I only got one scum read. Gg.
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VTL Harder
full claim from you my friend. This should be L-1.
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Town:
GP
Xlav
Smith
Coin Toss:
RM
Scum:
Harder
Virt
my reads. GP I've had a town read on since his first post. Xlav's thought processes are quite similar to mine so he's likely town. RM is an utter loose cannon and I don't want to deal with him for now. Virt is known scum, probably TP meaning Harder is mafia by PoE.
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@RationalMadman
In light of Budda's clarification, what do you make of your result on Virt?
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heck if I claimed to be a third cop the town would have no idea if I actually am, but the mafia would. Whose agenda does a mass claim support? (rhetorical).
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I don't think it needs to be said, but don't out your role if it's RM that's asking for it. Roles aren't aff indicative in this game, and especially since he's a "duplicate cop" he should know this. Harder should out because he has pressure, nobody else.
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@RationalMadman
What do you intend to do with outing so many claims? You realise that based on your own story of being a duplicate cop, we don't have CC power? We can't do shit with claims if we have duplicates and you should know this more than anyone else here if you're being honest. Your motive doesn't match your stated aims.
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His response that he investigated Virt because he finds him hardest to read is RM code for "I had no better target."
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@XLAV
Narcissism. you might have to kiss his arse if you want to get anywhere with him.Thoughts on RM defending 1harder?
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@RationalMadman
Yes they will, submit this question to Budda too to confirm. Inno means with with town, Guilty means does not win with town, NOT wins with mafia per se.Jester won't be guilty ona cop report
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Do Jesters lose too if all mafia are dead?Yes
Praise the Lord. We can lynch mafia. I'm Gonna wait for the yanks to come back and respond to me before voting.
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I believe this cuz its a semi open set up, so he cant just make it up due to the real risk of CC. First claim in the game too so Grey is more likely than not to be town.Im legit town BG
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@XLAV
Nah the bolded are roles. Its in the role list.
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Economic Left/Right: -1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.18
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@XLAV
it seems you might be spot on about Harder and Virt.
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@RationalMadman
From your PoV, Virt cannot be a commuter yeah? So in your opinion why do you think he lied? Do you think he's also lying about being hated just so that we don't test it? Or is he trying to get people to vote him?
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yeah but Virt is going out of his way to get lynched. He claims commuter, then he claims hated.. Commuter isn't X shot according to the role list so RM couldn't possibly have an inno on him. Hated is an independent role that you can't be if you're already a commuter. He's holding up a sign saying "I'm obviously a liar, lynch me."
If he is a Jester we'll lose if we lynch Harder and he flips scum. We need a vig.
ugh this game... :\
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@1harderthanyouthink
This is a patently false allegation. I sent you my reply here:Smithers might be scum trying to get town to believe the scum team is one person
"good question. I really don't know. There could be a mafia team of two with one hated but that would be really scum sided, there could be one mafia, which would be slightly town sided, or there could be one mafia and one TP, which is only slightly scum sided."
How did you reach the conclusion that you reached from this?
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@XLAV
yeah, it was harder who brought up jester and threw me into a world of paranoia. His first post was to say "I don't think RM is telling the truth." and then goes and doesn't vote anyone, but doubts Greyparrot's obvs town claim. Muddying the waters is what's going on here imo.
For aforementioned reasons though I'm not going to lynch mafia until Virt gets back so I can ask him some questions.
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wait rescind that, he changed his claim after the fact ughhh
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@XLAV
lemme re-read over a nice lunch. I just noticed that Virt claimed an active commuter when I assumed it was passive. How stupid of me lol. brb
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@XLAV
The smallest number of townies you need to have 2 mafia is 7. There should be 1 mafia only if Budda is following balance conventions. A TP however is something I would expect, and I legit fear that Virt is a real Jester.There's no jester. Just 2 mafia.
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@XLAV
Anyway, this is a weird fucking read
Yes it is weird, because Virt is going out of his way to get lynched. He notices RM investigates him as inno and the first thing he does is claim commuter. It's a rather transparent attempt to get lynched.
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Potential outcomes of the game assuming Jester:
Dp2:
4T v 1M v 1J
Lynch mafia: Jester wins
Lynch jester: Jester wins
Mislynch: game continues
Dp3:
2T v 1M v 1J
Again, cannot lynch scum because Jester will win.
Mislynch: mafia shoots Jester, Mafia wins.
No lynch: game continues
Dp4:
1T v 1M v 1J
If T is lynched: Jester wins
If M is lynched: Jester wins
If J is lynched: Jester wins
If No lynch: Mafia shoots J, mafia wins
assuming Jester and mafia, then there are no possible ways for town to win this game.
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@RationalMadman
Are you town reading Virtuoso based on your result?
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@XLAV
He did? If so I would definitely re-evaluate my read on RM, especially now that I notice the last cop that died was paranoid. He could be a naive cop.
Issue currently is that he has a inno on Virt, who isn't inno.
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@XLAV
I'll tell you that I suspect RM is actually mafia but don't vote him cuz we'll lose. Virt is likely a jester so we can't lynch him either.
We're literally fucked.
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I mentioned it here cuz I didn't get the chance to speak Dp1, but the mod replied to his questions and a bit more which tells me there were things he asked in his own pm that got clarified. Neon sign indicating genuine questions.
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@David
On MU a game like this would be classified as bastard.
:( wanna end the game move onto the next?
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Oh this game is bastard, town cannot win. Lynch mafia and jester wins. Mafia won't shoot him until lylo, where town has already lost majority. Rip lol.
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@Greyparrot
Why? A commuter claim would leave rm with no other option. My entire beef is that RM has an inno on a guilty player, cuz virt is 100% a scum. So who is the other mafia? Probably the "cop" who said the tp was inno.
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We have an extra lynch to use btw cuz the mafia is obliged to shoot the tp if we don't lynch them in order to win, so feel to use that lynch on me if I get this wrong. But it all fits too well to be coincidence. Virt is a jester, RM is a mafia who thought virt was town and fake claimed inno on him not knowing he isnt inno. This is legit.
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@Greyparrot
That thought process assumed one of them were town and the other is a liar. Im wrong on that cuz a tp + mafia makes more sense. The logical conclusion is that RM is the other scum cuz he just got an inno on a player who fmpov is not inno but tp. It all makes sense come join me.
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Yeah the more I think about this to myself the less I'm able to believe that Virt is a mafia who made the blunder of the century. Imo the jester call is a good one. Let's lynch the scum and win the game.
VTL RM
we should see something interesting here, cuz RM is most likely going to be the last scum, and Virt if he's a TP will lose if the mafia is lynched. Imo Virt will come to RM's defense out of nowhere and confirm the 1 mafia 1 TP theory.
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If virt is a TP then chances are he's a jester* correction.
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