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@Double_R
There is an obvious reason why very people like you let alone like engaging with you on DART. Need a reminder? Here’s a hint: the use of fallacious arguments, especially with the intention of deceiving.
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@n8nrgim
…if it’s true…🤦♂️
It is true.
I am right.
Everyone who claims otherwise is an ignorant fool.
I’ll give you credit for conceding the point of the legal analysis provided.
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It’s called birth control, it’s been around since ancient Egyptian times. Clearly you never heard of it. And the meaning of life isn’t about having kids, it’s just about living your best regardless of what choices you make.
And I am sure I am correct in saying, most of us here having to deal with your sophomoric banality feel sorry for your demon offspring.
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@n8nrgim
It’s factually accurate.
BTW, it was written in 1787 and the 14th passed in 1866. There was no change in the definition of what a rebellion was as it was know. From its roots to Shay’s Rebellion (1786-1787) being fresh on the Founder’s minds.
obviously, just reading words as they are, that might not be how the people who wrote it intended.
And this is why everyone is getting it wrong, to include corporate and tax layers filing motions on 14:3, they’re doing a plain reading and they know better. Plain (layman) readings is why everyone is making a frivolous TDS asshole of themselves.
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@Vegasgiants
There won’t be any conviction for it since he has never - ans will never be - charged with insurrection.
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@Double_R
Oh my fucking GOD!!!!
You actually do read the sources people post here.
Good thing I was sitting down, I might have fell over otherwise.
PS. I have neither the time or energy to go through and fact check each “false or misleading statement” (not necessarily [a] lie) to ensure contextual accuracy of either candidate when both have been proven pathological liars. There is no Guinness Book of World Records category for which successfully elected politician lied the most during their career.
The only relevance those lies and other false or misleading claims serve is how the voter chooses to weigh and measure them for future elections.
End of story.
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Your impotence knows no bounds.
PS. The $2 hooker was a metaphor, it wasn’t literal let alone directed at an actual person. YOU and your ignorance of what a metaphor is, turned it personal and worthy of action as a clear cut violation of the CoC. But like I said, the moderators are impotent just like you, Fanchick!
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“No one will read your stupid spam links without any typed context behind it.” - IWRA
Sound familiar, GP??
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Oh fuck, the black conservatives hands down!!
The douche Canoe 🛶 wearing the Hunter Biden 2024 hat is IWRA to the proverbial T!!! Emasculated by some woman (or little girl) in his life, and so he speaks at (not to), over (never listening), and above (needing to be heard first, rudely cutting the other off) with insults.
The 18 yo was sharp as a tack.
Mum was spot on in the end. Called that little shot out for who/what he so obviously is.
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So this factually accurate legal analysis doesn’t get lost amongst IWRA’s bullshit whining and Sidewalkwr’s “Cry Racism” Syndrome and FLRW’s inanity.
JFC, this subject was already covered and I shut it down with actual legal facts and proper analysis of the 14th Section 3. Again…
14th Amendment, Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office:
"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."
First key legal term in that criteria is "shall": Shall is an imperative command, usually indicating that certain actions are mandatory, and not permissive.
Second key term here is "engaged": involved in activity; involved especially in a hostile encounter
Third key term, and its legal definition thereof is, "insurrection": A rebellion of citizens or subjects of a country against its government.
- Rebellion: The taking up arms traitorously against the government and in another, and perhaps a more correct sense, rebellion signifies the forcible opposition and resistance to the laws and process lawfully issued.
The final legal term (phrase) in that criteria is "giving aid and comfort to the enemy": SECTION 3. Clause 1. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open court.
"The two branches of treason, "levying war," and "adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort," are distinct, and do not embody synonymous actions."
"The term 'enemies,' as used in the second clause, according to its settled meaning, at the time the Constitution was adopted, applies only to the subjects of a foreign power in a state of open hostility with us. It does not embrace rebels in insurrection against their own government."
"...whereas giving aid and comfort is generally committed in connection with a war waged against the United States by a foreign power."
President Donald J. Trump did NOT (shall have) directly engage in an armed insurrection "in a hostile encounter" against the United States Constitution for which he gave oath to support. Equally, President Donald J. Trump did NOT give aid and comfort to the enemy since there was no enemy (a foreign power) to give aid and comfort to on January 6, 2020. More importantly, the United States Government via the F.B.I.emphatically declared that J6 was NOT an insurrection. Nor was President Donald J. Trump charged with inciting a riotand/or directly engaging in said riot that was facilitated by FBI agents placed within the J6 crowd and Capitol Police who aided in the breach of the Capitol.
"The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials."
No insurrection, as such no rebellion either.
No enemies (agents of a foreign power) were present at the events of J6 either. Therefore, no enemies for anyone to give aid and comfort thereto.
The 14th Amendment, Section 3, does not apply where President Donald J. Trump is concerned.
He can and will likely serve another term as POTUS.
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Yup. The fact I am right and you and your false authority are wrong really does piss you the FUCK off!!!
Easy to tell when you being another man’s wife into the debate in a disparaging way. Speaks volumes about YOU! But hey, as if any “all talk and no action” moderator here would even care that that ad hom definitely crosses the line, they don’t do shit about it.
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Corporate lawyer who went back to being a corporate lawyer after he got off the bench. When you become a judge it is day in and day out OJT. Judges don’t know everything under the Sun, let alone everything about each branch of law.
Your childish characterization of me proves that your ED keeps getting in the way of any semblance or measure of intelligence.
Your fallacious appeal to a false authority demonstrates your intellectual cowardice denialism.
You’re still wrong. I’m factually accurate. And that just annoys the FUCK out of you, doesn’t it!!!
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And YET…absolutely, positively, NO election was in fact, “overthrown.”Oh, so if you fail to get any money during a bank robbery
Oh look, an ignorant false equivalency fallacy 😂
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@FLRW
And YET…absolutely, positively, NO election was in fact, “overthrown.”
Nowhere in the 14th Section three does it discuss [an] election, specifically, let alone one being (or attempted to have been), overthrown.
What you specifically referred to was FL statutory law prohibiting the incitement of a riot (every state has this). While J6 was a small scale riot, it happened in DC where FL law doesn’t apply, and FL has no jurisdiction to try someone for an alleged crime committed in a completely different state.
Lastly, DJT didn’t invite anything on J6. That was the doing of the covert agents in the crowd aided by Capital Police.
You lose too.
You’re dismissed along with ✏️ Richard.
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@FLRW
Did you know that Florida prohibits inciting or encouraging a riot? A conviction results in a third-degree felony, punishable by up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine.
DJT did not incite or encourage “[a] riot” in Florida, or anywhere else for that matter.
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@FLRW
Ever hear of the 1st Amendment?
Yeah, didn’t think so.
People don’t go to prison for a speech.
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IWRA continues to bang his T-Rex hands on his kiddie table while screaming at the top of his lungs his pathetic, imbecile-like temper tantrum oft seen when he knows he can’t win a debate/argument.
I mean really, it’s not hard to tell you’ve prevailed because as soon as you do the litany of ad hom jabs flows like a $2 hooker on PMS night.
You don’t know what you are talking about
Easy to claim, harder to prove. And since it is clear you will never meet that burden of proof, well…
You’re still dismissed, little boy. Now go get the Sears catalog and play find the needle in the hay stack.
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No one here can disprove my 14/3 analysis. No one.
And certainly no one out in the real world could either.
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When Trump took office we had a stable economy with low unemployment and record job growth.
That’s a big bold in your face five Pinocchios, lie.
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He also outright lied when he said the election was stolen. He told the American people the election was stolen and that he won in a landslide and that was a complete lie.
All lies, if believed true by the one saying them, are protected by the 1A.
Only thing that happened J6 was a handful of FBI agents, human sources and Capitol Police egging on riotous behavior.That is a lie
we know you can’t handle the truth.
Still can’t prove my 100% factually accurate legal analysis of 14/3. You’re dismissed.
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Since the Presidential Oath of office swears to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution", then yeah, "rebellion against the constitution" should disqualify someone, if you are guilty of Treason you should not even be allowed to run for President.
Intellectual cowardice denialist.
There was no rebellion.
There was no insurrection.
There was no sedition.
There was no coup.
Only thing that happened J6 was a handful of FBI agents, human sources and Capitol Police egging on riotous behavior. Those involved should be charged accordingly and lose their jobs (in effect, get cancelled).
End of story.
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I am not an American, thank God.
Yes, thank god for that!!!!
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You obviously have a better understanding of the law and the constitution than Retired Federal Judge Michael Luttig
Yes, I do. He was a corporate lawyer, not a constitutional law lawyer. Same goes for the stupid tax lawyer that filed a federal motion in his state to bar the SOS from putting Trump on the ballot per 14/3. The federal Judge told him to pound sand.
Either YOU prove me wrong or just STFU and GTFOH with your whiny nonsensical ad hom retorts derailing the subject at hand.
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JFC, this subject was already covered and I shut it down with actual legal facts and proper analysis of the 14th Section 3. Again…
14th Amendment, Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office:
"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."
First key legal term in that criteria is "shall": Shall is an imperative command, usually indicating that certain actions are mandatory, and not permissive.
Second key term here is "engaged": involved in activity; involved especially in a hostile encounter
Third key term, and its legal definition thereof is, "insurrection": A rebellion of citizens or subjects of a country against its government.
- Rebellion: The taking up arms traitorously against the government and in another, and perhaps a more correct sense, rebellion signifies the forcible opposition and resistance to the laws and process lawfully issued.
The final legal term (phrase) in that criteria is "giving aid and comfort to the enemy": SECTION 3. Clause 1. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open court.
"The two branches of treason, "levying war," and "adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort," are distinct, and do not embody synonymous actions."
"The term 'enemies,' as used in the second clause, according to its settled meaning, at the time the Constitution was adopted, applies only to the subjects of a foreign power in a state of open hostility with us. It does not embrace rebels in insurrection against their own government."
"...whereas giving aid and comfort is generally committed in connection with a war waged against the United States by a foreign power."
President Donald J. Trump did NOT (shall have) directly engage in an armed insurrection "in a hostile encounter" against the United States Constitution for which he gave oath to support. Equally, President Donald J. Trump did NOT give aid and comfort to the enemy since there was no enemy (a foreign power) to give aid and comfort to on January 6, 2020. More importantly, the United States Government via the F.B.I. emphatically declared that J6 was NOT an insurrection. Nor was President Donald J. Trump charged with inciting a riot and/or directly engaging in said riot that was facilitated by FBI agents placed within the J6 crowd and Capitol Police who aided in the breach of the Capitol.
"The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials."
No insurrection, as such no rebellion either.
No enemies (agents of a foreign power) were present at the events of J6 either. Therefore, no enemies for anyone to give aid and comfort thereto.
The 14th Amendment, Section 3, does not apply where President Donald J. Trump is concerned.
He can and will likely serve another term as POTUS.
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Funny when an idiot throws stones for grammar or spelling and then makes 2 errors in his next post.
All done on purpose just so we can see you comment on it in such repetitive banal ways.
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You're right, 30k lies over 6-7 years is no comparison to Biden's... what... thousand lies (?) Over 50.TWS is clueless. An enlisted Army guy.
Says the clueless to yet another truly clueless guy. Makes you two clowns Laurel and Hardy reincarnated. 😂🤣😅
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@Double_R
You're right, 30k lies over 6-7 years is no comparison to Biden's... what... thousand lies (?) Over 50.
The fact that you don’t have or know a far more accurate estimate of the “false and misleading claims” of Biden over 50 years of service doesn’t surprise me one bit.
Not all ‘misleading claims’ are bonafide lies. Which is why fact check and other sources never come right out and say “lies.”
So yeah, a source or two is asserting DJT made “false and misleading claims” that tallied to just a little more than 30,000 during his short tenure in office.
WAPO asserts Joe Biden made 511 “false and misleading claims” during his first 100 days. Just by using that, no less than 5 a day X 365 X 50 = 91,250 “false and misleading claims” spun every day for 50 years. And that’s a conservative number right there given the fact this idiot, as of late, has shown he can certainly lie a helluva lot more than five times a day, but it’s definitely at ekg no less than five whoppers a day.
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@Redpilled
Biden is just as much of a liar as Trump.
No, Biden is works. He’s been lying his entire political career, Trump was in politics for barely six-seven years. No comparison. Biden wins the award 🥇 for being the worst pathological liar than 45.
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Dumb Ass Racist fallacy.
Nothing racist about it, dumbass (one word, not two). 🤦♂️
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A single or few anecdotes ≠ factual evidence of a solid position to be argued…pencil Richard!!
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@Greyparrot
Joe Biden is a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!! And he has proven as such NUMEROUS times over his circus shit show political career.
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It’s a mad mad world
Little old lady gets interrogated by police for taking a picture of a sticker attached to a trans billboard, and three other ridiculous uses of police time and money…meanwhile actual violent crimes are taking place with no police response.
All in the name of the alphabet soup klan.
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The title of this thread is not supported by dumb shit rednecks,
Appeal to emotion and ignorance fallacy.
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And what do you call all the racists that live in trailer parks, using Meth and Budweiser to kill 2x as many brain cells every single year, activists of Trailer Trash Lives Matter?
Factually inaccurate non sequitur.
The title of this thread is not supported by dumb shit rednecks,
Appeal to emotion and not ignorance fallacy.
White privilege ≠ success for them, they hate that everyone has done better than them, and all they have to make them feel superior is the color of their skin.
Appeal to mockery, emotion, and ignorance fallacies.
Also, it’s a well-documented and observable fact that racists occupy the lowest levels of society, however you look at it, economically, socially, intellectually, morally, racists are the underbelly of society and hate out of jealousy. They hate that all of the groups they want to vilify look down on them and feel sorry for them.
Strawman fallacy, ignoratio elenchi fallacy, appeal ignorance fallacy.
Just one logical fallacy after another because you’re too uneducated on the subject matter to formulate an emotionally and intellectually intelligent position from which to argue or or against.
Also, it is always the wrong me screaming racist the most and loudest who are truly in fact, the actual one being a racist. Racist!!!!!
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And what do you call all the black males that kill 2x as many whites every single year than vice versa, activists of White Lives Matter?
The title of this thread is not supported by the OC/P!! One act of violence ≠ crime being out of control in Florida (or any state for that matter). Also, it’s a well documented and observable fact that crime is out of control in democratic ran cities with reversals on bail, charging the law to reduce felonies to misdemeanors, and redefining violent person crimes as not being violent when they so patently are (e.g: raping an unconscious person ≠ a violent person crime).
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Says the shameful cry racism wolf syndrome little boy.
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Just like the statement, "All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have... Fellas, I need 11,000 votes, give me a break."
Strawman.
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@FLRW
Remember that Trump said "Fight like Hell".
A statement of hyperbole taken way out of context. 🙄
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Oh look, yet another TDS thread spamming the forum.
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Wow. This has to be one of the most ignroant threads I w ever seen here.
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@Greyparrot
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@AthiasArgumentum ad hominem. You should know better.So much for moderation cracking down on toxic adhoms with the new COC....
Right!?!
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@Double_R
@cristo71
Sooner than later many here will stop engaging with you D_R. They’re clearly realizing that it’s an utter waste of time to do so because you never admit you’re wrong, you always claim you’re right by claiming another is wrong, and as the others have so aptly pointed out, you clearly enjoy (get off on) your own sophistry tactics (mental masturbation). Which is 100% observable proof that you are as I’ve stated numerous times: an intellectual coward denialist poster child.
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Ya, huge difference between insurrection and seditious conspiracy, just huge.
And no one has been charged with sedition either.
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Perhaps they felt they had to cover it because 300 million Americans watched it on TV.
Yeah, about as honestly as they did the “mostly peaceful” riots of 2020 that caused over 2 billion $$ in damages across the entire nation, which included the loss of several innocent lives that were barely mentioned (unless it was about Rittenhouse, but the lives he took weren’t innocent, and they were white but the media spun it as though they were black and made it a racial issue).
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Hell no!!! They did not. Not in the slightest.
Act like an idiot and play stupid games, win stupid prizes. They reaped what they sowed.
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@Double_R
@ADreamOfLiberty
Good show ADOL!!!!
Oh look D_R, another intelligent person like myself calling out your bullshit hypocritical denialist double speak.
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Election interference. Period.
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@Greyparrot
The left is 🦇 💩 crazy 😜 over pushing the racial divide and lying about white supremacy.
There are far more dead white bodies at the hands of black perpetrators than the inverse. Every single year blacks kill 2x as many whites than vice versa. Yet that fact doesn’t compute with their brainwashing race baiting narrative.
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has zero academic and/or professional experience to comment on anything regarding race, racism, or otherwiseThis is coming from a guy who was a Cpl in the army for 3 years and some kind of glorified dispatcher for a jerkwater police department
I was never a corporal in the Army.
I served for 5 years, to include Desert Shield/Storm.
I have two degrees in the legal arena (criminal justice).
I was never a dispatcher. Never worked for a police department.
Still a liar liar pants on fire. Always deflecting with juvenile antics.
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