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TDS click bait is all this thread is.
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So your hero Donald Trump is a troll.How many of his trading cards have you bought with your disability checks from the government?
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@Double_R
Ok, let me help you out. Martine Barrat is the person who
Still going with the intellectual cowardice denialism.
Adieu
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@Double_R
<<<TWS1405_2>>>Read your own typed words…“…does not absolve him of the crime.”Of…[the]…crime.That, within the context in which it is written, clearly denotes a single crime. [A] crime. Not two crimes. Not three or more crimes. ONE CRIME!"You do the crime, you do the time" - Martine BarratEnlighten me... when Martine Barrat famously stated these words, which specific criminal statute was he referring to?Or if you prefer, we can drop the silly little "gotcha" word games and instead focus on the point I was actually making.
Your inability to write a cogent, well thought out statement in either making a point or asking a question is your fault/problem, not mine.
And my reading of what you wrote exactly as it reads within the context and word choices given therein, making the obvious observation, isn’t a “gotcha” word game.
Also, last I checked it is you and I having this exchange, I don’t know who Martine Barrat is, and they clearly are not a part of this conversation. Martine didn’t write what you wrote, you did.
Own your obvious mistake and correct yourself and move on, the intellectual cowardice denialism is pathetic.
Now do you wish to rephrase your previous statement in response to my quoted statement you chose, or are you going to continue with these silly childish intellectual cowardice denialism games? Cause if you are (the latter), we can stop right there. I have no interest wasting anymore time pointing out huge lack of writing skills and obvious intellectual cowardice denialism. And yes, third time is charm!!
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Wonder how long it will be before Target gets sued too.
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Ha ha ha!!!
Elon Musk predicted it and it has now become a reality!!!
Shareholders are suing Kellogg for sexualizing their products and damaging the brand, thereby kissing millions, if not billions away; thereby destroying their collective investments in the company.
“Love ya!!”
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@Best.Korea
Travis King was in prison. In USA, 1 in 30 black men are in prison. They are much more abused. They are much more wrongly accused and discriminated.Its strange that North Korea, a country demonized so much for human abuse, serves as last hope for Travis to begin a better life free from US racism.
All unsubstantiated leftist talking point garbage.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Alright I'm calling it, IWRA is too dishonest to answer and I won't anymore.
Took ya long enough.
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Sidewalkwr,
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And you too just proved you’re being nothing but a troll, just like your other bird of the same feather, IWRA.
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@Double_R
So when Trump says "I just want to find [the exact number of votes I need to flip the state to me]", what he's really saying is, "I just want you guys to make sure that you've counted everything accurately to ensure the rightful winner is declared, whoever that might be"
I bet you, like so many others, actually believed Trump when he “grabs them by the pussy,” as being quite literal vs the obvious hyperbole, don’t ya!!!
A lot of the tripe that flows from his mouth is hyperbole, vague, nonsensical, and quite often never very specific. So yeah, you have to learn to read between the lines with a lot of what he spews. But it really isn’t that difficult. Just stop trying so hard, you might actually get it vs your made up garbage along with the rest of the garbage being fictionalized.
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Since someone clearly doesn’t comprehend what an internet troll is…he crosses all the proverbial Ts and dots all the Is on this one:
a person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content.
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@Double_R
>@<<<TWS1405_2>>>believing he really won does not absolve him of the crime.And what crime is that, specifically?The many election related crimes he's been indicted for. If you want the list you can Google them.
Read your own typed words…
“…does not absolve him of the crime.”
Of…[the]…crime.
That, within the context in which it is written, clearly denotes a single crime. [A] crime. Not two crimes. Not three or more crimes. ONE CRIME!
So I rightly asked you to cite what crime you are clearly inferring to here.
And NOW you want to shift the goal post to “the many election related crimes”!?!
*facepalm*
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@Devon
Let's debate the subject of white privilege here.
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Okay, let's go.
Since there is a character limit in posting a topic/comment, you will have to go to my blog and read my position there.
Then feel free to address whatever you think you can rebut, and we will debate the subject.
Prove me wrong.
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IwantRooseveltagain,
You're just not worth my time or the effort anymore.
So not feeding the troll any further.
I'll let others stupidly engage you, wasting their own time.
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@Double_R
-->@<<<TWS1405_2>>>Until the actual crime has been committed with evidence linking you to those ski masks is obtained, IF the exact ski masks purchased were even used, your “what IF” is a huge nothing-burger, bunkis.The grand jury had already weighed in and told us there is evidence. Next step is the trial where we will all be able to see and evaluate it for ourselves. To pretend no evidence exists without knowing exactly what they have would be remarkably dishonest.
Criminally Yours: Indicting A Ham Sandwich
Over-indicting is not just a waste of time and money -- it's just not fair.
Over-indicting is not just a waste of time and money -- it's just not fair.
Grand juries are the prosecutor’s babies. They decide who gets picked, what evidence gets presented, and what gets left out. ... There’s no necessity for unanimity among the 23 or so jurors, and the standard of proof is so low — that probable cause exists to believe a crime has been committed — anyone, for the merest hint of an offense, can get indicted.
A friend of mine sat on a grand jury for three weeks and reported that it was so rote that many people played on their phones or even slept as the evidence was being presented. Every presentation ended in an indictment.
In many instances, over-indicting is not just a waste of time and money — it’s just not fair.
The GJ did not "tell us" anything. The evidence presented at a GJ is not disclosed to public, and as noted above, prosecutors, like the Council of Nicaea, chose what to include and what to purposefully exclude. It's completely one-sided and obviously for a reason, the end game is to indict that ham sandwich.
I did not pretend no evidence exists, that is purely your unsubstantiated subjective opinion. I know full well how this system works as I have worked within it. Nothing you can say about it will be anything that I do not already know.
He clearly was not plotting to steal anything when he genuinely felt/thought that the left was trying to steal the election with magical numbers appearing overnight for Biden.As has already been pointed out to you, believing he really won does not absolve him of the crime.
And what crime is that, specifically? Be clear and don't retort with some nonsensical irrelevant analogy. I want the specific statute and description of the crime for which you are referring to and arguing here.
Take the call to Brad Raffinsburger as an example. A legal action would have been to call him and ask him to look long and hard to ensure the vote count was accurate. Trump didn't do that. Instead he asked him to "find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have".
Trump speaks in a different language, and one needs to know how to understand it in order to interpret it correctly. It's like learning a foreign language, except this is Trump's elitist, obnoxious and albeit ignorant language. When Trump says, "find 11,780 votes," he means 'look long and hard to ensure the vote count was on the up and up.'
He incited nothing of the kind, which is clear as Crystal given the language he used and the FACT that no one is charging him with incitement of a riot. No incitement, no riot.So clear that all of the people rioting said they did so because the president told them to.
All of the people? Okay. List every single person who rioted and source back to their admission that they only did it because Trump "told them to" (jump off the cliff).
Also, suggesting people peacefully gather and make their voices heard in a dignified manner =/= go riot and break into the Capital in order to impede a judicial process.
It’s already been firmly established that the FBI undercover agents and CIs within the crowd present that day were the ones who incited the riot.Was the capitol riots a bad thing or not? It never ceases to amaze me watching Trump defenders shift back and forth from claiming January 6th was just a few tourists taking photos, and it was also a massive left wing conspiracy to make Trump look bad.
Moving the goal posts, I see. Of course, the rioting that took place was bad. It is a stain on American history where that election is concerned. But there were far more peaceful protestors there than criminally intent rioters; the videos Tucker Carlson was given direct access to, and the selected footage aired on his program proved that salient fact. In addition to proving Capital Police opened the doors letting them casually walk inside, and certain agitators within the crowd (CIs and undercover agents, for example) egging the crowd on.
AND it’s painfully obvious that the lefty George Soros funded DAs and Special Prosecutor keeps charging DJT with BS stretched thin legal theories in order to divert/deflect all attention away from the Biden Crime Family with all their bribery, extortion, and treasonous activities. Smoke and mirrors.Do you have any evidence for any of this? No, of course not.
Perhaps that was a stretch regarding the specific DAs and Smith, but Soros has been infiltrating the CJS: Justice for Sale
Bottom line, allegations of a crime =/= a crime actually having been committed.
A grand jury can and would indict a ham sandwich, it's not that difficult.
I take all these indictments with a grain of salt seeing as I know how it all works. Been there, done that as a grand jury coordinator facilitating the grand jury process for the attorneys of the DAs Office I previously worked. I filed the indictments when true billed. I've read them. I've spoken to the attorneys who were prosecuting the cases. I backed up/supported 2 felony attorneys in that office.
I even served on a jury once, and I can tell you the people that ultimately get selected to be a juror on a case, be it grand or courtroom, are not the brightest in the world. Most just want to get out of the duty or will just vote whichever way the wind blows if it means ending the trial sooner than later so they can go home (or back to work). The prosecutor has (or is in) a strong position of being manipulative in swaying the jury to go their way, especially in cases where the accused is painted as an evil pariah day in and day out like Trump has been since 2015. The jury is tainted, and it makes the prosecutor's job that much easier to manipulate the evidence and the jurors.
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@FLRW
Given the multitude of facts coming to light regarding the deep corruption of the left and the Biden Syndicate (which includes the Obamas and Clintons), I neither know who won or who lost the 2020 election. All anyone knows is what they were told to believe.
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@Double_R
Donald Trump for his plot to steal the election culminating with him inciting a mob to attack the US Capitol t
He clearly was not plotting to steal anything when he genuinely felt/thought that the left was trying to steal the election with magical numbers appearing overnight for Biden.
He incited nothing of the kind, which is clear as Crystal given the language he used and the FACT that no one is charging him with incitement of a riot. No incitement, no riot.
It’s already been firmly established that the FBI undercover agents and CIs within the crowd present that day were the ones who incited the riot. Not to mention Capitol police opening the doors and ushering in the crowd.
AND it’s painfully obvious that the lefty George Soros funded DAs and Special Prosecutor keeps charging DJT with BS stretched thin legal theories in order to divert/deflect all attention away from the Biden Crime Family with all their bribery, extortion, and treasonous activities. Smoke and mirrors.
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@Double_R
If those ski masks were purchased so that they could be used in a bank robbery then I’ve taken part in the commission of a crime and can be prosecuted for it.
Until the actual crime has been committed with evidence linking you to those ski masks is obtained, IF the exact ski masks purchased were even used, your “what IF” is a huge nothing-burger, bunkis.
The observation of intellectual cowardice denialism comes later, if and when you actually perform it. Which is predictable, so yeah, given your M.O., it will happen sooner than later.
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Given the level of cover and obfuscation for the Biden Crime Family, it’s only reasonable that the same duck and coverage for Dominion would be the same since their corruptly designed system got basement sleepy ice cream fanatic child sniffing and biting Joe Biden elected.
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@Dr.Franklin
No, it is not.
It’s asinine, defeatist, victimhood mentality nonsense.
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That GA indictment is a joke. Just more nonsensical spurious so-called legal theories being stretched into Never Never Land.
Things that are now illegal according to the Georgia indictment:
– Asking people for phone numbers
– Reserving rooms in a Capitol building
– Telling people to watch TV
– Getting people to attend legislative hearings. pic.twitter.com/H2oQPXu4OM
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 15, 2023
More things that are now illegal according to the indictment:
– Holding meetings
– Calling people
– Asking people to call special sessions of legislatures
– Setting up phone calls pic.twitter.com/y2XiVCWzy9
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 15, 2023
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That GA indictment is a joke. Just more nonsensical spurious so-called legal theories being stretched into Never Never Land.
Things that are now illegal according to the Georgia indictment:
– Asking people for phone numbers
– Reserving rooms in a Capitol building
– Telling people to watch TV
– Getting people to attend legislative hearings. pic.twitter.com/H2oQPXu4OM
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 15, 2023
More things that are now illegal according to the indictment:
– Holding meetings
– Calling people
– Asking people to call special sessions of legislatures
– Setting up phone calls pic.twitter.com/y2XiVCWzy9
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 15, 2023
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Truth cannot be and is not, racist...it's a fact; and facts cannot be racist.
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@Best.Korea
Your comment comes as absolutely no surprise.
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@Greyparrot
Can you name one person that was convicted for insurrection due to Jan 6?
No one can or will, anymore than anyone can or will even make a legit attempt to discredit my post #25 herein. They all know they simply cannot do so in either case.
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Well will the idiots stop supporting this guy?
You’re making so many grammatical errors even your device got used to the bad grammar that it’s not correcting you on it, it’s just making/allowing the gross errors to be submitted…and YOU’RE not even catching the grammar errors. Bwaaahaaaahaaaaa!!! 😂
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For the 100,000th time, truth ≠ racism; truth ≠ bigotry; truth ≠ discrimination.
Claiming otherwise without proving it keeps the burden of proof on you.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
You should know by now it doesn’t mean shit.
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Lol, does it bother you my recent pay increase…
What does your claimed pay increase have to do with the price of tea in China?
You claimed to be a pilot. You’ve proven time and time again you have anger management issues within these very forum threads. All I did was recount those observed historical facts. I could care less if you make $1.00 or ?100.00 an hour. Won’t stop the world spinning, and I sure as shit give it no mind either. No more than I would what GP or FLRW makes. Who cares!?! Nobody!!
No prove me wrong in my analysis of the 14th A Sec 3 or just admit you’re wrong and go away already.
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Post 25 was rambling gibberish
Prove it, or forever be known as uneducated 🐓 💩 so-called commercial airline pilot with OBVIOUS anger management issues!!
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@ebuc
None of which was ever classified in direct definition to the 14th A Sec 3.
Keep trying. You’ll keep losing.
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Ha ha ha!!! None of you TDS sycophants can prove me wrong!!!!
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@FLRW
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For what? An idiom?
Phuleeze 🤦♂️🙄🤦♂️
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@FLRW
Only one innocent person was killed on J6, not 10.
It was NOT a “terrorist” attack either.
Get off your stick and accept reality, ffs.
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IWRA - you didn’t prove me wrong regarding post #25. In fact, no one has because you all know you simply cannot rebut it. The 14th Sec 3 does NOT apply to 45. Period. Fact. Period.
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@ebuc
Is there a twang sound that speaks against Jan 6th insurrection, via the rebels without any shred of logical, common sense critical thinking?
J6 was NOT a damn insurrection. Even the patently corrupt FBI declared it so. It was nothing short of a riot, and a rather tame one (in comparison to the 2020 BurnLootMurder riots) at that.
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Fiction sure is fun for the galactically insane left.
Wishful thinking fallacies.
Strawman fallacies.
Appeals to ignorance and emotions fallacies.
Ad hominem fallacies.
Red herring fallacies.
The list of fallacies is long and infamous for sufferers of TDS.
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@Greyparrot
Yes, I do. For sure.
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@ebuc
->@Greyparrot@VegasgiantsInstead, we have corruption and incompetence.Likely this 14th amendent concern will go before SCOTUS? I think so.
Not until a case is filed and concluded, then a writ of certiorari is filed in its aftermath.
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@ebuc
Oh joy, a bunch of pseudo constitutional law legal experts posting their non-legal uneducated subjective opinions. Now I have to correct all you on your TDS commentary.
14th Amendment, Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office:
"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."
First key legal term in that criteria is "shall": Shall is an imperative command, usually indicating that certain actions are mandatory, and not permissive.
Second key term here is "engaged": involved in activity; involved especially in a hostile encounter
Third key term, and its legal definition thereof is, "insurrection": A rebellion of citizens or subjects of a country against its government.
- Rebellion: The taking up arms traitorously against the government and in another, and perhaps a more correct sense, rebellion signifies the forcible opposition and resistance to the laws and process lawfully issued.
The final legal term (phrase) in that criteria is "giving aid and comfort to the enemy": SECTION 3. Clause 1. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open court.
"The two branches of treason, "levying war," and "adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort," are distinct, and do not embody synonymous actions."
"The term 'enemies,' as used in the second clause, according to its settled meaning, at the time the Constitution was adopted, applies only to the subjects of a foreign power in a state of open hostility with us. It does not embrace rebels in insurrection against their own government."
"...whereas giving aid and comfort is generally committed in connection with a war waged against the United States by a foreign power."
President Donald J. Trump did NOT (shall have) directly engage in an armed insurrection "in a hostile encounter" against the United States Constitution for which he gave oath to support. Equally, President Donald J. Trump did NOT give aid and comfort to the enemy since there was no enemy (a foreign power) to give aid and comfort to on January 6, 2020. More importantly, the United States Government via the F.B.I. emphatically declared that J6 was NOT an insurrection. Nor was President Donald J. Trump charged with inciting a riot and/or directly engaging in said riot that was facilitated by FBI agents placed within the J6 crowd and Capitol Police who aided in the breach of the Capitol.
"The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials."
No insurrection, as such no rebellion either.
No enemies (agents of a foreign power) were present at the events of J6 either. Therefore, no enemies for anyone to give aid and comfort thereto.
The 14th Amendment, Section 3, does not apply where President Donald J. Trump is concerned.
He can and will likely serve another term as POTUS.
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@FLRW
More evidence you’re trolling is n an attempt to derail the thread. Reported.
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@Barney
@whiteflame
TWS1405_2 = RACIST
Sidewalker is not only trolling this thread, he is purposely name calling to detail the thread.
FLRW is too.
TWS's Klan Robe sales must be slumping.
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Sidewalkwr = TROLL
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Well shit in the UK just took a turn for the worse in elevating “special rights and privileges” to the alphabet soup in order to spare their feelings from autistic teenagers.
🤦♂️
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@Best.Korea
Racism, a persisting issue in the United States, eludes simple explanations.
It’s a persistent issue the world over capitalized upon by race baiters and white guilt liberals.
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