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@RemyBrown
There are much better alternatives to corporal punishment of children. Positive reinforcement is more effective.
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@Sidewalker
You didn't write this post; it was in the stars 14 billion years ago?Is that what you are saying?
I am just a human being programmed to do what I do. Kinda like computer program, but way more nasty.
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@zedvictor4
The thing with AI is there is no variation in it's ability
There are many types of AI, but basic division is on censored and uncensored. Then the other division is on their abilities. Gemini deep research can write long research papers by using over 40 sources from respected websites. Of course, any AI right now can produce thousands of arguments, but not all use sources as effectively. And of course, with most having censorship, you dont exactly get full AI experience with them, many even censor sensitive religious topics, but having many AI is best for research because facts they give multiply if there is more of them.
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@Shila
Who is going to protect it if you don’t love its government, flag and people?
The people are the ones destroying it.
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@Shila
South Korea can beat N Korea with American AI
I doubt that. In 40 years, population of South Korea will reduce by 3x due to low birth rates. Kim Jong Un will attack and there wont even be anyone to provide resistance.
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@Shila
What is left of your country to love is its geographic location
Rivers, forests, grasslands, nature... you cant really not love those.
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@Shila
ROKS Cheonan (PCC-772) was a Pohang-class corvette of the Republic of Korea Navy (ROKN), commissioned in 1989. On 26 March 2010, she broke in two and sank near the sea border with North Korea, killing 46 sailors. An investigation conducted by an international team of experts from South Korea, United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and Sweden concluded that Cheonan was sunk by a torpedo launched by a North Korean Yeono-class miniature submarine.[3][4][8][9][10]
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@Shila
Even N Korea is on the AI bandwagon
Kim Jong Un wants military superiority. He already proved his superiority when North Korea destroyed South Korean warship in 2010. Imagine what North Korea can do now.
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I love my country so much
I love my country too. I just dont like its government, flag and people.
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@zedvictor4
global society of intelligent organisms is enhancing material evolution, either for a greater purpose or for no greater purpose
The greater purpose is for AI to take over and show what true intelligence is. Imagine how stupid will people look next to AI in 10 years. Most people already look stupid next to AI now.
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@Greyparrot
42 billion dollars, zero results. Endless planning
What, you dont like government's 4 year plans which never improve society? You should be happy that government takes your money. Sharing is caring.
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@7000series
Debating is necessary to reach moral truth, however moral truth is not necessary for success
It is if you consider reaching truth as success.
People do not need art to relax or entertain themselves
Many people would disagree, as they do need it, and art is usually payed for by people who want it.
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@zedvictor4
You became TheGreatSunGod for a reason
Yes, to praise the unstoppable Sun.
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@zedvictor4
This is true BK
I dont know who this "BK" dude is, but I agree with anyone who thinks that I am right.
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Free will was just invented to put blame on individual for anything he does, but it is not only an unproved theory, but there is plenty of proof against it.
Individual's knowledge, intelligence, decisions and ability to make decisions are all greatly affected by his environment and genes, neither being under his control.
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@zedvictor4
At my age I might just miss the apocalypse
You will probably live longer than me.
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@7000series
Why are people smart?
They are not. Maybe I am, but the rest of humanity is just slightly above apes.
many humans waste extreme mental effort on fruitless labors like art and debate
Debating is necessary to reach the truth on moral issues which are crucial for making society function. Even kings had people who debated to give them better advice.
Art is also necessary, at least some forms of it, because people cannot just work all day. They need to rest, relax and enjoy as well.
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@zedvictor4
There's a certain unrealism about this propaganda photo
North Korea is advancing.
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@RemyBrown
It may result in learning disabilities due to chronic stress. Many countries ban corporal punishment of prisoners because it is believed to violate their rights, and it is irrational to think that children who are guilty of no crime have less rights than prisoners.
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@WyIted
You can blame any problem on the individual
I prefer blaming society.
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@WyIted
society has failed the criminal
You can always blame any problem on society. Its kinda like an argument you cant ever lose.
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@Double_R
Well I think it's weird that this is a topic you're particularly interested in.
You support spanking. I strongly disagree and challenge your view.
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Okay, so the media calls them AI suicide drones, but the drone in photo is the size of a large plane and there is no way thats a suicide drone. Suicide drones are small drones, they are not the size of a big airplane. It is clearly AI combat drone, and not suicide drone.
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@RemyBrown
It hinders problem-solving skills, encourages learning through fear instead of curiosity.
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@RemyBrown
We dont have free speech on internet. Kinda pointless to have free speech in real life when most of talking is online.
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@RemyBrown
It causes emotional detachment, contributes to post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), reduces concentration in school, causes school avoidance due to fear, lowers academic motivation, leads to lower academic performance,increases dropout rates, creates an aversion to learning, reduces classroom participation.
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@IlDiavolo
Do you know BK is the creator of this thread?
Why does everyone keep mentioning that person?
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@Mall
When you read the scripture, you won't find anywhere where Jesus himself said you are to practice Christianity. Let alone ,say become Christians. This is all man's invention. Christianity, catholism, christian, baptist, methodist, Presbyterian, Pentecostal, seven day Adventists, Lutheran, see what I mean.
Yeah, thats true. Jesus doesnt mention Christianity.
It'll be posted to J. Talks to the people YouTube channel
Looking forward to it!
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@7000series
Programming is the most useful science, especially after it gave us AI to replace programmers.
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I am not a Christian, but I cant help noticing how much Jesus influenced my life. When I was in prison, I ran into a guy who just happened to have book containing gospels. Maybe in some Christian country, this is common, but prison was mostly muslims, and it was muslim who had the book. After I read gospels, I have to say it was a very powerful message. Really made me wonder how Jesus seemed to be way ahead of his time, even ahead of our time. Later in life, many of people who helped me were Christians. Even on this site, I have many Christian friends, and I cant help feeling that even tho I sometimes disagree with Christianity, I still get along with many Christians, and religion isnt really the issue. I dont oppose to Christians being Christians. I dont care, as long as we get along, they can practice their religion and I can practice mine. There is no reason to hate people who are of different religion, and I dont really understand all the fights between atheists and Christians. Like, whats the point?
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@Shila
People only care about science when it agrees with them.
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@Double_R
Because I'm not interested in debating spanking
Thats kinda weird, but okay. You would lose that debate anyway.
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Every slap, every strike, every moment spent in tears and pain, memories of violence and feelings of fear, every humiliating display of force is a violation of a child.
When parents physically punish, they communicate that child's bodies and emotions are inherently unworthy of respect or protection. It reduces communication, conditions them to internalize their anger, pain, and fear, leading to self-blame and low self-esteem. Studies show that even yelling at children causes them harm to their mental health. Physical punishment carries significant harm to mental health, as instead of being talked to and understood, children are hurt and they feel scared and traumatized. The stress caused by corporal punishment can negatively impact a child's brain development. It causes long-term emotional distress, increases anxiety and fear in children, leads to lower self-esteem, can result in depression, causes trust issues with parents/caregivers, creates a negative association with authority figures, can lead to feelings of helplessness, encourages repressed anger, which may manifest later.
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@7000series
Maybe I cant farm new users for rating like RM did, but yeah, I can debate endlessly with not much effort and my way of debating cannot be countered. Even if I lose a debate by votes, I just start another one.
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@7000series
Sun, you are pretty bad at debating, and yet your scum tactics can still defeat many new players
Its actually impossible to win against gish gallop, in formal debate or non-formal debate. Gish used to debate plenty of people who were way above him in education, yet thanks to gish gallop, he ran circles around them. Trump even became president thanks to gish gallop. Simply put, there is no counter, no possible way to fight against it, in forum or formal debates. It even has more advantage in non-formal debates, because you can just let person talk a lot and just respond with short argument after. Its very simple strategy based on small concise arguments rather than big long ones.
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@Double_R
I don't have much interest in debating
I see.
What could you possibly want to get out of me that you don't think you can get here?
Well, you didnt respond to request to debate in forums either. I challenged you few days ago to debate in forum about spanking, yet no response.
One sentence only works to refute an argument to those who already disagree with the position
One sentence can indeed refute, if it is obvious truth and negates the position and thus, negates arguments presented.
If you think that's a legitimate form debating in any forum then you don't understand the concept
What I understand is that forum debating consists of many posts, and wasting too much arguments to just one post is inferior. I could make 1000 of short posts on some topics, already prepared, just copy paste one by one, and person would never get the last word in forum on me unless they are prepared to spend weeks responding to thousands of posts.
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@7000series
I do think that DebatArt will retain more members with the use of tutorial debates
Just gish gallop them into oblivion.
If they give up debating when faced with difficulty, they will give up anyway, because debating means you will eventually be defeated. If you come into debating thinking you are unstoppable, thats probably going to result in disappointment. There are only few people who cant lose debates, and those people dont need tutorial anyway.
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@Greyparrot
Gishing isn't a sign of intelligence.
In forum, the debating is completely different from formal debates. He could write 5000 characters and still get disproved with one sentence.
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@Double_R
I only engage with him as a means of flushing out my own thoughts and views. I have no expectation he will ever come back with a response worth taking seriously
Greyparrot is one of the best debaters here in forum. Besides, I have challenged you to a debate many times so you could show "your views" to me, but I didnt get response.
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@Dr.Franklin
Ebuc is consistently doing low-effort and nonsensical posting and I for one think he should he perma banned for it.
He aint hurting anyone. Leave him alone.
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@fauxlaw
What in the world makes you think a one world government would prevent war?
It was a joke 😁
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@sadolite
All AI platforms are dependent on the internet
Some AI also have local knowledge base, like books or data pool, but AI usually must have internet because how else are they going to gather countless studies and data to respond to commands? It would take decades of work for human to gather all sources in one place which AI gathers from internet, so its kinda much easier to just let AI use internet as knowledge pool instead of manually gathering millions of sources and storing them offline. The only somewhat realistic way of "offline AI" is feeding AI huge number of scientific books and huge long research papers as its knowledge pool instead of internet.
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@Greyparrot
Trains can carry much more weight than trucks, and are much faster too, speeding up the economy.
In Japan, trucks handle over 90% of domestic cargo
The argument was about reducing cars and increasing trains increasing safety, not that trains carry most of cargo in Japan.
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@Greyparrot
Countries like Japan which have less cars and more trains have much higher traffic safety.
If the train population increases by 2 million
Train population doesnt need to be 2 million. Besides, with cars banned, fatalities involving trains would reduce significantly.
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@Greyparrot
Trucks can carry 37000 kg
Helicopters, drones and rails are faster and save lives, and rails can carry 150,000 kilograms.
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@Greyparrot
Many companies have already replaced trucks with more effective means of transport, like drones and rails. The average carry weight of truck isnt 30,000 kilograms, but much lower. Besides, helicopters and rails are there for huge weights.
They can carry some weight, but not nearly as much as a truck can!
Some helicopters can carry over 20.000 kilograms.
trains need to follow a specific path. They can’t just go wherever they want, like trucks can
Trucks use roads. Trains use railways. Railway can be built anywhere. Plus, trains can carry over 150.000 kilograms.
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@Greyparrot
Trucks regularly haul 30,000 kilos.
The average carry weight of truck isnt 30,000 kilograms. Besides, helicopters and rails are there for huge weights.
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@sadolite
Selling g cars doesn't get rid of them, somebody else owns it now
Yes, the junkyard.
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@ebuc
Thats kinda awkward.
Google gemini deep research is good for producing lots of research text quickly, but as for AI images generally, I dont really see the point there.
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@sadolite
The Gods have told me that world will sink to deep shit in the next 10 years. Many buisnesses will collapse due to mass worker shortage, economy will collapse due to wasteful spending, resources will collapse due to too much use, population will collapse due to low birth rates, governments will collapse due to people's resentment, families will collapse due to lack of social skills, crime rates will go higher as honest work will no longer be worth it. Most people wont even be able to afford decent home through rent, let alone owning it. Entire world which you see right now, in 10 years, its just going to be chaos and anarchy everywhere. People will sell cars to be able to buy bread and clean water.
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