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@WokeBlackConservative
Sorry, with regards to my first statement I mistakenly was talking about in modern times. In regards to when it was created, you are correct in stating that the laws around voting were racist. 
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@WokeBlackConservative
In what regards is voting racist? While there may have been laws previously the current largest obstacles to people of darker skin is the requirement for identification, and a lack of facilities for disability. This is based on a study done by the United States Commission on Civil Rights in 2008. It does mention that there were issues with regards to Shelby County, but there have been changes that have been made. While I can't say the current procedure is perfect. I would say that for the most part it is not showing a current racist view, but rather a issue of poor accessibility, especially those of native-american origins. 

In regards to my statement " I could say that darker skin helps reduce skin cancer risks and therefore black is treated better." I was simply stating a singular area of which there is a distinction being as you have not brought any up yourself. Please explain why you find this to be a bad faith comment, my only intention was to ask you to list areas which you find problematic so I can speak discuss them. 


https://www.usccr.gov/files/pubs/2018/Minority_Voting_Access_2018.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi93M2UmbH8AhU6jIkEHaRbBAUQFnoECD0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw1SeNA8h_uChbkAVX3iaVxU
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@WokeBlackConservative
Please give examples, as I can't refute a simple "it gives rights"

When taking about Japan, the idea that people are nice and polite is based on a perception given by the media, when actually looking into the facts the culture is a lot more complicated then that. Being as this is the case, each thing you might say is "nice" or "polite" needs to be considered individually. 

Can you clarify what you mean by "White privilege is white people being treated better for simply being white" I could say that darker skin helps reduce skin cancer risks and therefore black is treated better. 

Being as I don't understand what you mean when you are referring to "white privilege" I can't say one way or the other. My opinion on regards to the social media, is that by making it that actions are public, the general sentiment about people of darker skin has changed, and when there are outliers people know about them. 
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@WokeBlackConservative
Would you be able to clearify how the founding documents were racist, and what do you mean by culture? Also, can you clearify about what you are referring to by white privilege as it's a very arbitrary thing to say. If you are talking about people being in higher positions then you would be referring to a issue of wealth inequality due to using things behind peoples control, the same issue can be said when referring to mass production, as it takes away peoples ability to earn a living.  I tried to address issues that were laid out about issues of the modern day regarding white privilege. If their are issues I did not address in my debate, I would be happy to clarify them here. 

I would also like to clarify that when I am referring to social media, I am not referring to media or people with large platforms, but rather the fact that when any issue might be found that is racist, someone is able to share it. This makes it the case that actions of any size would be seen. 
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@WokeBlackConservative
My first question is when did it start? If you are going to say that it was once people were sold in Africa as slaves and seen as sub-human by the merchants, then it ended when slavery ended as that's when slavery stopped.

If you are going to say it was when people who were black was seen as lower class, I don't think their could be a time as "class" is a human construct and therefore it's up to the individual to decide when it ends. 

In my personal construct, for the most part  it ended in the 21st century when the social media boom happened, as now anything that might be controversial would be noticed. It's not to say there are actions that might be controversial, but once such actions are brought to attention things are done as society in general does not believe that skin color should be something to consider lower class. Yes there are inequities within different community, but those should be see as individual issues seeing a bias on someone being different rather then racist ones, due to seeing people as lower class.  I go to depth on this topic in my debate: https://www.debateart.com/debates/4021-skin-color-should-be-a-spectrum-and-not-an-identity 
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They came up with a "new" definition of the word Woman.
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@Intelligence_06
While it might seem like we don't need to, it's still important to consider that people like to have a general guidelines for understanding a person. They might be arbitrary things that don't necessarily describe that particular person, but in general it describes a majority of them. For example if I were to want to be a gentleman, I might pull out a chair for a women while  with a man I would let them pull it out. This is not to say that all women like this, but in a majority of the cases someone who sees themselves as a woman would appreciate this action where as someone who sees themselves as a man would find it rude. 
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@Intelligence_06
I believe the reason why society is so obsessed about the idea of gender and needs gender, is because of the fact that it helps I understand what a person is. It's just like if I tell you that this(a chair) is a structure made of wood. That would be defining what it is but not putting into a way of describing that can be understood about how to use it. From that explanation I could be described a table or a cabinet. Just because something is made from wood (female) doesn't mean that the definition chair(woman) makes them who they are, but rather helps people understand what things they might be able to use to best place them within society mentally and physically. I wouldn't want a structure made of wood(chair) to be used as a structure made of wood(bookshelf) even though they are made of the same thing. When discussion regards gender there is the question of whether the source wood(female) means that people should have the expectations of a chair(woman) or if the better expectation is that it would best fit the expectations of a bookshelf (man). To one side they might say that a chair(women) can be used to hold books and therefore should not be change their identity, while the other side says that wood(female) can be both a chair(women) and a bookshelf (man) and therefore it can change depending on what is best suited for it(that person).
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@YouFound_Lxam
Personally I find that definition to be exclusionary as it seems does not include people who prefer to live as a tomboy but identify as a female. Based on what I understand the way that's trying to be understood it's as follows:

A woman is someone who passed the stage of which they stop identifying themselves as a child, and have identified themselves with more adult characteristics. This person is someone with the feminine characteristics that they identify with and therefore wants to be identified as a woman. This same understanding can be used for a man, girl or boy. With regards to language we often gender things based on masculine or feminine characteristics but they can also be described in a more gender-neutral way. 

What does masculine or feminine characteristics mean? They are common characteristics often found in the general male or female population. These things may include but are not limited to sex anatomy, way of dressing, sets of roles taken upon oneself or interests that one has. Because these things varie, they can be easily used to describe the opposite sex. It is often best to ask the person what they identify as, for it's up to each individual to decide where their threshold is or if the prefer to not identify with either

For me personally, I try to be considerate of others but I define them based on the metric of where I personally see them at the time with regards to age and feminine characteristics despite what the person would like, as I feel that while a person can be whatever they decide they are, they are still constantly being judged based on how they are being seen by the world and I am not going to try to change how I think about people just because that's what they want at the time. In a way doing that feels a bit like religion, or a cult where people are not able to think for themselves but rather are being told what to think. 
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