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@zedvictor4
The fact is though, there are no facts. Only speculation based upon a naive hypothesis.Heaven is a concept and can be what ever one imagines it to be.
Your head is not on properly because you say one thing then you say the opposite because you say there are no facts then you say what heaven is so you have no idea at all but try to say that you do.
It says In John 14: we learn My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? and thats a fact.
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Many people say that it is impossible for the world to flood because there is not enough rain for that to happen but that is not what only happened. In Genesis 7 we see that the water came also from the ground by the fountains of the deep. So what happened is that after the 40 days and 40 nights more water came raining up from the ground to cover the earth and scientists have proved thats where water comes from anyway. Anyway what happened when God created the world there was no rain anyway until the flood came along so it was all built up which is really logical.
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@Stephen
Of course; Lot cannot of course be held accountable for this incestuous depraved and immoral licentious act , because he was out of his head and "didn't know a thing about it, honest guv" . Genesis 19:30-38
Your head is not in the right place because you said a story from the bible that teaches us what happens when we leave God but then it is so what. You got the story messed up and your head is messed up because you didnt say anything so what about the story der.
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@janesix
Yoga as taught is useless, it is just mimicking, and poorly, true natural yoga. Natural yoga just happens, it is a design of the body to facilitate an evolution in consciousness. It is like puberty for the mind.
They do that stuff in the Indian and the chinky religions so it means that it is not being true to the true God. Have nothing to do with irreverent, silly myths. Rather train yourself for godliness; 8 for while bodily training is of some value, godliness is of value in every way, as it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come. Timothy 4:7.
So you see it doesn't work because your mind is thinking of puberty.
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@ludofl3x
There are many people who believe in God that are not moral because they have wandered off the path of being a true Christian.
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@ludofl3x
I'm also a little confused as to how it'd be moral to hold anyone eternally accountable for some crime committed by some ancestor a thousand generations ago, supposedly, I mean is it moral if your dad commits a crime and you're sent to the chair for it?
Let me say this respectfully that Jesus and the Lord father are the same and if one sins then they both sin. They are the same spirit.
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@ludofl3x
As far as your family in heaven: what age will they be? Why would they need bodies or a mansion?
God has his own timetable for when we rise but true Christians will have an immaculate body and be dressed in glowing white. It is not for us to question 2 Peter Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.” but God has said that he will provide for us in heaven.
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@Stephen
@FLRW
Your Afterlife will be the same as your Beforelife.
And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. Ecclesiastes 12:7
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@zedvictor4
There's a slim chance that internal processes might leave some sort of residual effect...Call it a soul if you like....But it's too speculative to say that this will include sentience.
Your other sentence was not right though because it is quite clear what it says in the bible that we will be provided for and if you scoff at the Lord you are not a true Christian 2 Peter Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.”
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@ethang5
Stefan is a terrible person.
Your quite right there because what he did was take something out of context that I wrote and put it in another subject and said I wrote it there then said that paradise is heaven when its not because paradise is the garden of Eden and then he tried to context that because I said that the earth will last for eternity but he said that it will blow up but that was out of context anyway. Then I said he was dumb so he asked me if I could think of anything better because he said I always say dumb so I said he was dumber which was really funny.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Utan. Yes or No . ( Do you think you are currently in the Top 10,000 OF ALLLLLLL TIME at giving the meanings of said scriptures ?
All time is eternity so it is impossible to say that. If you get a monkey in a room with a typerighter then it is going to type Romeo and Juliet and all the other books because there is no limit with eternity and if that monkey dies and doesnt type the books then another one will try and if that doesnt work out then eventully another monkey will do it. So it really makes you think what can happen.
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@Stephen
And you can show me a "monkey in a room typing and plagiarising Romeo and Juliet and all other books", can you ?
No and I cant show you eternity because it never stops just like the monkey. But it could be a lot of mokeys because if one dies there is another monkey who will be doing the same and if that monkey gets it wrong then another monkey will get it right because all of the monkeys have eternity and infinity to do it so eventully one of the monkeys is going to type the books. Its real intellectul and it took me like eternity ha ha to work it out but if you sit down and think about it you will work it out to. So you see then that if you are in eternity you are going to do everything no matter what. And it doesnt matter what you do when because time is irreverent.
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@Stephen
I asked about what Jesus had clearly said , and HE used the word "paradise" . I asked then what? And what does on do?
But I respectfuly say it was you who was out of context because you put something I said from another subject and said that was out of context so what you really did was being not very honest. You were talking about something else but meaning it was about this. And the cartoon was real dumb and amature because it was just stick men talking in real low voices so it doesnt even count.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
IS ANY THEIST ON THIS SITE, NOT IN THE TOP 100 OF ALLLLLLL TIME AT SCRIPTURE TRANSLATING ?
Theists are dumb like atheists because they are not always true christians. They could be like hindu or jew or chinky religions. Im a true christian and I always say what is written in the bible because what is written there is true and I am being true. So you can ask me anything in the bible and I will always tell the truth because I am a true christian.
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@Stephen
You don't know what anyone will be doing in heaven OR paradise, do you?
You should be more respectful like me because what I am saying is the truth and you dont want to no about it.
So I respectfuly ask you why you think it is wrong that if you live in eternity that you dont do everything. Say there is a monkey and you put it in a room with a typerighter for eternity then the monkey is going to type Romeo and Juliet and all the other books. You cant deny that can you.
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@Tradesecret
Thats right because doing something is not being something but if you are doing something that is being something and that something is the same thing then what you are being is the same thing as what you are doing.
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@Stephen
What will one be actaully doing? what is the "EVERYTHING" that one will be doing? Playing football? Swimming? Basket making? Sewing? Bricklaying, Or kneeling at god feet & licking them and telling him how fkn great he is!!!?
Im not going to reply to that because you are getting real stropy and you are pretending that you dont know what everything means just so you can do that. God will judge blasphemurs.
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@ethang5
Your right because atheists write a lot of science fiction but they dont usually put christianity in it though. It is usually anti god things which arent even real anyway.
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@Checkmate
Maybe you could try to expand your vocabulary outside of the word "dumb".
OK then you are being dumber.
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@Stephen
That's my question; What will a person be doing for the eternal here and now?
Its what I said because you didnt read it properly or you are being a bit dumb. You do everything in eternity because if the time lasts forever then what you can do is everything. Like der.
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@Stephen
You cant even write properly and it is you who doesnt understand context because you asked a real dumb question when you said paradise but it should have been heaven
I think you will find that it was actually JESUS! that said paradise.
But it is you that put what I said out of context because what you said that I said is what I said in another subject.
So it is you who does what you say others do which is really scumy.
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God gave us all the morals that we got and if we disobay the morals then we are being evil. There are many bad scums around that do evil so that means they are breaking Gods morals. So that means that there must be God.
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@Tradesecret
Jesus is god and god is Jesus are 2 different things and its just that you dont understand what it is that I wrote because I wrote all about it. And you didnt ask about the trinity so you are forgetting also. And the trinity is about the three persons of the Christian Godhead; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit which is what I said anyway except that the holy spirit which is god anyway and all people are doing is calling the same thing three different names. But then you get the bible calling god the father, the god and the holy spirit so theres a trinity then you add Jesus so that it really more than a trinity because trinity means three of them. Then if you look at Jesus he has all different names so that trinity just makes it more simple to say all that in not so many words.
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@Tradesecret
And for the record, the passage in Peter is not hearsay. It is what the bible says. To call it scaremongering is to "hide from the truth".
Your getting real stropy now just because you dont understand and even the other guy here is asking you are accusing me of mocking God. That is blaspemy and you should no better if you are a true christian. The bible says something that is scarmungering so but that doesn't mean it is it means that it is saying that false prophets are scarmungering and you were just trying to make out that it is hiding from the truth but it isnt.
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@Tradesecret
Your just trying to test me but what I say is in the bible and you should read it because it says exactly what I said. It says “The righteous will possess the earth, and they will live forever on it.”Psalm 37:29.
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@Tradesecret
And if not, then can you explain to me how there is only one true God and yet still call Jesus God? Would that not make Jesus a false god?
Thats being dumb. If you say that Jesus is God then God isn't false so that therefore Jesus is not a false God.
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@Checkmate
Something funny I would like to share.
That is not even funny it is dumb and even the dumb guy who writes it is dumb because the first thing he said is I dove. That is so dumb its not even funny. Then he was talking about religious people so he was talking about all the false religions and those people are as dumb as he is anyway.
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@Tradesecret
We talk to Jesus so it is like talking to God and God does things through Jesus so that when we talk to God we are really talking to Jesus, And when we talk to Jesus we are talking to God which is the same thing. Jesus said that he and God are one and he almost got stoned on it but that doesn't mean that he means that he is God though. But I think God is Jesus which is different because God is being himself to us through Jesus but Jesus is still different though.
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@EtrnlVw
But you are even confused about reincarnation because you are confused between philosophical and religious things. And then you talk about Indian and Chinky religions which are false. It is clear in the bible that we will be raised but that includes our soul anyway so I dont know what you are really going on about.
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@Stephen
How many times is that theist claim the an atheist doesn't ever understand the "context" of a biblical verse?
You cant even write properly and it is you who doesnt understand context because you asked a real dumb question when you said paradise but it should have been heaven and even then i had to be polite and explain what eternity is like. He who lives in glass houses should not cast the first stone.
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@Sum1hugme
I figure being dead is going to be a lot like before I was born
Yes thats right because you will be pure and perfect and untainted by sin.
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@Tradesecret
So how do you understand 2 Peter 3:10 "the heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare"?And then how do you understand 2 Peter 3:12 " That day will bring about destruction of the heavens by fire and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.". ?
But you are just scare mungering to frighten people because that was only here say talk because in Peter 2 it warns us about what false prophets will say and this is the kind of scummy stuff they will talk about like you do. So you are being a false prophet if you say things like that without saying that is what actually the false prophets were saying.
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@Stephen
Why would the prospect of living with your god be imagined as negative??That was the point of my own thread. I want to know what one will actually be doing for the rest of eternity? Paradise; then what? What happens then? What's the point of paradise?
You put 2 question marks on the sentence. Jesus said that it does a man no good to take thought because thats when you start thinking all kinds of things and if it is a bad day your gonna think really negative things. You are very confused because paradise is the garden of Eden and thats not in heaven right. When you live in eternity there is no such thing as time so everything you do is here and now so you dont think about things like that.
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@ludofl3x
Many other CHristians think you died a sinner, and without that redemption from the sin, you go to hell. Which do you think?
If the Chistians are true Christians then they would not say that because why is the homeless person a homeless person. It is because he is not a true christian and probably not a Christian at all and God does warn about helping out scums. Luke 22 On reaching the place, he said to them, “Pray that you will not fall into temptation.” So then God will no that I resisted temptation and I will go to heaven but the bus driver wont because he is also scum for running over me. My family will have immacculate bodies like me and when Im not in my mansion I will visit there mansions. It doesnt matter anyway because it is eternity and there is no such thing as time so you never think about it.
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@Stephen
I asked a similar question in a thread of my own and not a single person of the Christian faithful could answer.Maybe you would like to give it a go for me, Utanity? I would be interested in your take .
God doesn't want us to know all about heaven or else we are going to think too much about it and get all negative. But he does let us know that your going to have an imacculate body and you will wear glowing white clothes. We know also that there are mansions in heaven and that God lives in one of them although the bible does say that you might actually live in his mansion because it has so many rooms John 14. You see lots of atheists say that what are you going to do with all that time on your hands but what they don't understand is that in heaven there is no such thing as time because it is eternal so you will never have time to get bored. Jesus said that it is not for us to ask and also that we will be provide for which is all we need to know anyway.
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When we die are we reincarnated or does our body become immaculate and it goes up to heaven? In Mathew 17 Jesus took Peter James and John there he was transgendered before them and his clothes changed and he was glowing. And that was like he was going to be reincarnated but he didn't anyway. He was just showing then what is going to happen when he dies. But when the time came that Jesus did die the rock in front of the cave moved and there was nothing inside. So that is proof that jesus was actually raised from the dead and his whole body raised up to heaven. But is there such a thing as reincarnation?
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@Tradesecret
Your not right because all of that is wrong. No, planet Earth will never be destroyed, burned in fire, or replaced. The Bible teaches that God created the earth to be inhabited forever. “The righteous will possess the earth, and they will live forever on it.”Psalm 37:29. So heaven and earth are mentioned together because they will always exist and you don't even get that.
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@Tradesecret
do you believe the bible is the word of God or do you believe Jesus is the word of God?
Why are you unpacking anything that I didn't even wrap up anyway? I said exactly what you said which is that the bible is the word of God so it must be true. But your question is good though because we believe in everything through Jesus since he is our saviour and he is as good as talking to God.
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@Tradesecret
You can't think what someone else thinks because you don't know what they are thinking anyway and if you did you would be that person. And that guy why does he deliberately show a book about october and another one about Lennin just behind him. Hes meaning to show off that he is a commie and anti God. There is nothing wrong with evolution per say it is just that evolution is not rue because it goes against what we already know is true and the Bible is the truth so how can an animal become another animal. It is just being stupid. But I know what other people think without knowing what they think because if they are thinking things that I am not thinking I can tell anyway which is not the way God wants us to think and it was Jesus who said anyway that it doesn't do any good for a man to think. Jesus said that we should Look at the birds of the air and not worry about anything else so I know not what someone is thinking but that they are thinking and that they should not be.
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@rosends
We have an oral text which is essential to understanding the bible. With out it, you can't really understand what the bible text says.
I think thats not right because you cannot have an oral text. If it is oral then it comes out of the mouth and is not a text otherwise it would be a text. Then if it was a text it is not an oral because it is written down and you read it otherwise it would be oral. You cannot have a square apple can you.
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@RoderickSpode
The problem with debating scripture with atheists is that the atheist tends to jump ahead of the game by trying to argue that the God of the Bible is evil. They really need to disprove the existence of God first (which is where Lane comes in). The problem is that the atheist tends to be vague about whether they are claiming the God of the Bible as an existing entity is evil (or if He exists He would be evil), or the author's portrayal of the God of the bible being evil (thus rendering the authors evil).
They are the evil ones because all they do is talk about evil and where does that come from? It comes from an evil heart because they reject God. If they reject God then they need to prove God doesn'[t exist which doesn't make sense because they are proving that evil exists. So they know that they cannot disprove God otherwise they would prove that there is no God. It is a circular argument but if you know God then you don't need to prove him. They need to disprove god first because if there is no proof that God is not provable then there cannot be an evil god.
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@Tradesecret
So when we hear over and over again arguments against the world being a sphere we should automatically think - "Well they are still being made - obviously the world must be flat". Or when we hear arguments against evolution over and over again - it obviously means that evolutionists have NEVER satisfactorily refuted these points.
The evolutionists are wrong anyway because we know that the earth is not flat now anyway. Did you notice those books that guy had behind him? That tells it all doesn't it and there is no way he is going to understand if he keeps butting in like that.
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@Checkmate
The guy in the video is really dumb because if you look behind him there is a book about Lennin and a book about october so he must be a commie anyway. And he is really rude because he keeps on cutting off the other guy who is talking properly about the bible. He is a sinner who wants to be a sinner and says blasphemy all the time so what he says is not right at all.
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@rosends
If you have learned the Jewish bible then it shouldn't be hard to accept the oral texts as well and learn about why Christianity is wrong. It should not take long for you to reject Christianity when you deal with the oral texts.
That is blastephemy because the Jewish bible is the same as the old testament anyway but the new testament is the real part of the bible which the Jewish don't have. In Mathew it says Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
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@ludofl3x
We are all sinners but all my family are true christians so we will all be heaven. We have all been redeemed and saved by the lord Jesus Christ and we are prepared for what god has prepared for us. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God; for He has prepared a city for them.....Hebrews 14.
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Heaven is probably a city just like New York and Chicago and Jesus says that it is a place where God lives ( Revelations 21). And because heaven is real and it is an actual place the early Christians believe that heaven is close to earth since you go there straight away after dying.
In John 14: we learn My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? So it is amazing that heaven is also a mansion where God lives and that there are many mansions there.
In Luke 23,45 Jesus actually said Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
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@zedvictor4
So if humans continue to evolve in this direction, there is a strong chance that one day we will be a wholly vegetarian species.
Yes but then God is gonna make vegetables out of meat.
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@rosends
Very true. And I understand that Jewish faith in texts that others don't accept can look like a cop out. I just want you to understand that it isn't a new cop out or a recent innovation. We have been dealing with these ideas for a while now.
If you have learned the old testament It shouldn't be hrad really to accept the new testament and learn about Jesus because he was actually a Jew anyway. So then it should not take long for the Jews to deal with the new testament.
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@ethang5
It might be funny too you but you are not being a true Christian if you keep protecting those people.
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@fauxlaw
What a lot of people forget is that it is just not us that can kill and eat animals, they can kill and eat us. So it is better that we eat animals before they eat us.
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