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@Wylted
I see...I don't expect people to catch up when they have missed that much. I just want them to read carefully, what they are able to read. If you just read 50 of those posts carefully, you have a leg over anybody just glancing over every single post. My issue is not with anybody who is not caught up, my issue is that he is not able to concentrate on anything. He should've know to check the first post to see who died for example.
I'd still be surprised if Supa honestly wasn't joking. Seems to fit his behavior
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I'll reread DP1 now that we have information and nobody is active.
Or I might not... knowing myself I'll forget and spend my day doing laundry and shit
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@Wylted
Given the activity this is probably what's gonna happen (if we get enough people to even commit to it)The lack of activity is absurd. If you guys are uneilling to engage just voter GP, and let's move the game forward
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@Vader
Since Budda is dead, I think the next likely candidate is either A) GP or B) Aporia.I scum read those people at first. I think GP is biggest scum fmpov. His wagoning was scummy on my DP1 lynch so I am assuming he will wagon on the next lynch. Ap also followed Budda logic in thinking me scum, wagoning as well when Budda wagoned
VTL GPGP is a scum conclusion for most, but my Aporia read is out there and some disagree, so I will focus on the most likely scum than my 2nd scum prediction
Aporia followed Budda's logic but Budda's logic was town logic (even if he was wrong). If you're going to scumread him over agreeing with a townies reads b/c they were incorrect, it's not the strongest read (which you acknowledge).
Based on a skim of the DP, what do you think of GP's posts and Aporia's inactivity.
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@Wylted
I'm also going to assume Supa is not sophisticated enough to fake that town tell, and give him a firm town read.
He's probably joking tbh
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@Wylted
You must hate what I'm doing then b/c I still haven't read all of DP1I'm telling you this, because this inattentiveness is killing me.
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wtf is with this inactivity
I mean I know I contributed to it (kinda forgot to check the site) but this is sad
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@Wylted
@Aporia
General Martok
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@Buddamoose
If you're trying to sus me for saying "I said on the other hand twice" then wtf are you grabbing atUr being hyper-literal again, what about what I've said would lead you to conclude im sus'ing you because you said "on the other hand" twice? Because i specifically quoted that?I literally in the first sentence of that post after that quote said, "And you act as if that matters?"You are arguing about what you said in the post, I'm sus'ing you over what your posts clearly imply. The two are not one in the same, you know this.
I assumed you meant it was sus. I meant it as just a comment, not some sort of argument or analysis.
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@Buddamoose
If you're trying to sus me for saying "I said on the other hand twice" then wtf are you grabbing at
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@Buddamoose
Oh I forgot about thatYou stated, "your analysis of Supa has been mostly behavioral, why did you unvote him because of a character claim." This question has loads of answers that are self-evident, so why you didn't supply one of those motives, is inconsistent with you applying a motive to dudz that wasnt even in line with his behavior and hingent upon something being true of surrounding posts, that simply was not, and also was antithetical to dudz own posts trying to explain away the original sus for lazy voting.
What I'm pointing out is why are you jumping off his wagon when you clearly read his behavior or logic or whatever as scummy, simply because of theme analysis, a factor that's honestly pretty unreliable until someone has died?
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@Buddamoose
You realize you just said, "it doesn't mean I thought it waa sus, I could of just been asking it to determine whether it was sus. Which means it was sus to you.This is missing the point anyways. You performed straight up mental gymnastics to excuse Supas behavior, yet where were those mental gymnastic in regards to the player you asked a question of to excuse their behavior?For someone who likes to point out scumteams, you sure are being obtuse about what you did being a clear indicator of you and supa being scumbuddies. Look at that, another inconssitency. You've been chock full of them this game, you know that?
fkn sucks cause I don't even remember what I said half the time. On the other hand, half the stuff you say leaves me confused as to what you actually mean (as in I don't understand what you're saying).
On the other hand, the question I asked that meant I sus'd you, what did I ask and what did you answer?
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Also can someone give me a run down of pages 8-14?
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@Buddamoose
When did I ever say I sus'd youYou don't need to, asking about my actions alone establishes you viewed those actions as sus. See this is that same selective hyper-literalness I was talking about.
Or it could mean a general curiosity of "why did you do that?" in which you could give me an answer and I would either go "oh okay" or "mmmm idk..."
Also what is "that same selective hyper-literalness"
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@Buddamoose
On one hand you just sus'd me for what requires a hyper-literal interpretation of one of my posts in isolation, on the other you are defending Supa for motives he by consequence of his attempt at excusing his percieved lazy voting, refuted? While at the same timeUr gonna have to excuse me if i look at that and think it's sus in its inconsistency in scope of intepretation and in how you are affording one very little benefit of the doubt, and the other are giving it, not for anything actually done or said, but rather a stretch of a potential in which you never even examined the very thing that potential is hingent upon?Mental gymnastics basically, while you immediately jumped to "that looks sus" in ur questioning of me.
When did I ever say I sus'd you (no for real, if I did, show me the post)? I can see the defending Supa part but I'm also conceding that, if my scenario isn't likely, then you were right. I posed my scenario b/c I personally wasn't sure how it went down, seeing as I don't remember it and haven't gone back to check.
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@warren42
I don't know if I believe this. The post was like two lines max.
You underestimate my ability to get distracted. I read that first line and immediately thought "fishy" and then mentioned that. I never went back to read the rest because, after all, it was just one more line, I already got what I saw in the post, I didn't care about the rest.
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@Buddamoose
--> @VaarkaNot to mention, there is no post anywhere between Aporias vote, and Supas post, that at all even hints to me having claimed.Secondly, wowMy BS detector didn't go off because I haven't looked at page one since I first read itThen how are you even holding your theory to be at all accurate, when knowing whether or not there was a post that hinted i had claimed in the space of time between Aporias vote and Supas post, is crucial to that theory even being valid?Bruh, are you trying to make yourself look like Supas scumbuddy?
No, I'm just being honest. A good number of the events so far aren't clear in my mind b/c I haven't gone back to reread anything. I've been rather busy today (and yesterday) so most of my time for the game is devoted to trying to catch up, meaning anything I thought before usually is no longer on my mind, and I forget events from earlier in the game.
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@Buddamoose
--> @VaarkaNo, Supa claimed he thought Aporias vote was to Lynch. As to why he VTL'd aporia, and thus he wanted to see his reasoning.This requires we assume Supa both hasn't picked up on RVS votes not being for lynch, AND thought the first post of a game was for a lynchthis vote for a lynch as opposed to a claim as Supa is saying he did not realize, was, again as Supa stated himself, because he thought I had claimed previous to Aporias vote. Aporias vote was the first of the game...
My only guess for this is he based his original reasoning off of a post later where someone talked about the vote. Otherwise you're right, poor logic.
His excuse of "I said "where is buddas claim" because I thought he had claimed, wherein he actually links Aporias vote, FROM THE FIRST POST OF THE GAME" and says, "oh I misunderstood "vtl budda for claim" as meaning budda had claimed something, so Aporia was voting him for death.
Similar response to what I said above. My only guess is he initially based what he said off a different post where someone brought up the post, and then linked the actual post later. Otherwise you're right, doesn't make sense
On the first post of the game, a post he c/p'd from and responded to twice. To hold Supa as being truthful requires we hold he still doesn't understand the nature of RVS votes(when it has come up in games hes played in, and he specifically has been corrected on this assumption of RVS votes = to lynch. But also that he legitimately thought I had claimed previous to the first post of the game. The first is a stretch, the second is just unbelievable.I'm not sure how your bs detector hasn't been set off by this. Are you really that gullible to believe someone legitimately thought a VTL on the first player post of a game was both to lynch, and for something i had claimed?
My BS detector didn't go off because I haven't looked at page one since I first read it
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@Buddamoose
Sorry whatSure, first please explain how tunneling someone I think is prob scum 1 claim into D1 is beneficial? Also, where have I established in my meta that thats what I do?
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@Buddamoose
UnvoteA quick wiki of Lwxanna shows she was only in a handful of episodes. My character is herself specific to season 7 and Lwxanna appeared in season 7, so I'm liable to think she could be a potential character in the game.Does anybody else's role contain bsh1's personal disposition toward their character or others? It could just be specific to my character because they're one of a line of hosts for a symbiote and its basically along the lines of, "I didn't like you as much as the previous (actress), im bitter she was replaced and it sucked how she left so heres a crappy role 😂.The word "oodles" was used unironically 😂, oodles.
If you placed your vote for behavioral reasons, why would his character claim change your view. The link you have between the characters is that "oh they both appeared in season 7", and you're removing your vote purely on that. You seemed pretty set on Supa being scum, but now that you have his character claim you're suddenly okay with him.
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@Vader
He was an active player in the past on DDO but has been inactive for a year or twoAporia is experienced from what I heard
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@Vader
yeah ik but afaik c/ping anything from your PM is not allowed.I mean it is just a character name. It doesn't give too much away
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@Buddamoose
So, to get this straight-You agree with Aporia its beneficial to pressure experienced players during RVS, but think his logic for voting me is stupid, despite his reasoning being what you agreed with?-its also scummy of other players to point out things that appear sus, like idk, saying you thought Aporias vote was to lynch and not get a claim, despite posting
How I see it up to this point is that Supa's got a problem with the pressure being for a claim.
Where is buddas claim?Which look an awful lot like you knew he wanted my claim.-And you it to be held you are still assuming RVS(opening) votes are for lynches, despite it being made clear in previous games thats not the case that you have been a part of where you have made such observations previously, to even hold your posts are genuine and not contrived.And because those things aren't being believed, and I think they look suspect, this means I'm scum?Nice
Everything between my last point and here make no sense to me. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
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@Vader
But I meant copy pasting it. Granted it happened four pages ago so either Bsh doesn't know about it or he's fine with it.
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@Vader
... is that allowed?it is all caps because i wouldn't know how to spell the name, so i copy and pasted how bsh spelled it
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@Vader
idk light bussing is pretty normal, though I definitely wouldn't expect it when new players are involved (unless one is going to be lynched anyway)I think your analysis is true and very thought out. However in mafia, bussing is where you try pointing the blame or purposely disagreeing or VTLing each other to try to cause people to think y'all are on different teams when both are scum. It is a rarity, but Budda is experienced enough and Aporia has some experience to execute it perfectly fooling noob players to vote for one or the other causing no suspicion to the other maf
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@Vader
What was his logic?I don't agree with Budda logic with me agreeing with Aporia. I explained why as well
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Lmao I just got to the post where Supa quotes Aporia asking for a claim.
So the part where I said :v: was wrong
Aporia voted Budda to get a reaction, not so much to get a claim. At least, that's how I've been reading it.
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@Vader
You read Budda's post?
Anyway, are things different now? I'm not caught up yet, but has anything changed.
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My ability to keep my attention on and remember parts of the game has slowly been getting worse this past year and a half. It's not an excuse, it's just something I kinda realized just now.
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@Vader
Scum team is Aporia and Budda confirmed. I honestly am so fucking lost and their logic is insane
If you were caught up when you made this post, then hopefully you read Budda's post on RVS (even though that's not technically *why* Aporia voted Budda). Aporia voted Budda to get a reaction, not so much to get a claim. At least, that's how I've been reading it.
I'm lost too but that's b/c I skip half their posts b/c they're long and forget parts of the game.
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@warren42
Actually I didn't read the full post. All I read was the part that I highlightedVaarka’s reaction was mildly concerning because of the fact he only called out the fake enthusiasm part, when he should know that the entire thing was fabricated.
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@Aporia
who lolDont talk shit about Hashirama.
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@Greyparrot
...what is off?from last 2 games I played with him...something is off.
Also who did you sus again? Budda right?
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@Aporia
I was merely saying that (as warren suggested), we assume that parrot is scum then what makes more sense: that he voted with Wyl because Wyl is his teammate or that he voted with him just to start a wagon.I said I find the former more likely (from scum perspective) because if he was just voting opportunistically he would have voted against you in his first post since mine was the only vote at the time. He didnt say he disagreed with my reasoning until his second post when he voted against me.We were talking about my light suspicion regarding Parrot's initial vote on me. I feel like in yer response you were talking about Wyl's vote change from me to you.
This actually makes sense, thanks for clarifying all the posts I skimmed about this subject.
no I'm not riding your dick
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@warren42
What if I expected to get some easy townreads out of it? I feel like there's little to no risk involved, and therefore don't quite understand the willingness to call me town. I don't think it's alignment indicative personally.
most of us know you're experienced enough to not be dumb or newby. I don't feel like you'd actually try to get a reaction with that unless you were town (or claim to be getting a reaction from it).
only reason why I'd call scum is if you made it obvious that you just had an excuse for why you posted like a newb (or, as I saw it, that guy who's trying to blend in with the group).
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@Greyparrot
whyHmm starting to susp buddha now.
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@Aporia
Your face feels contrived imoAlso Vaarka feels contrived at posts 79 and 80 imo.
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@warren42
... I see
VTL Lunatic
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@Buddamoose
*pauses osu!* I gotchu
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@warren42
love you too buddy <3
nah but for real, I haven't seen many of your posts but what I have seen has basically been "haha let's catch the mafia!", or "guys im sorry if..." and then nothing very substantive
substantive does not feel like the right word.
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@warren42
If there's a third scum, warren is it calling it now
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Oh I remember, I was gonna tell you guys that my attention span doesn't cover your long-ass posts (which aren't even that long ngl)
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I was gonna type something but Warren's reply made me forget
I'll get back to you on that
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@warren42
That was the part that stood out the most baby
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I forgot spinko types "yer" instead of "your/you're"...
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