Vegasgiants

You make a claim with no evidence 

The claim is everything must have a beginning 

Prove it

It's a fallacy you repeat over and over

I prefer scientific evidence 

Results: The pregnancy-associated mortality rate among women who delivered live neonates was 8.8 deaths per 100,000 live births. The mortality rate related to induced abortion was 0.6 deaths per 100,000 abortions. In the one recent comparative study of pregnancy morbidity in the United States, pregnancy-related complications were more common with childbirth than with abortion.

Actually no.  The most common way to kill a brain death patient is to remove the feeding tube so they starve to death.  If we did that to anyone else it would be murder

I am no threat to you but if I was trying to kill you you could use lethal force to stop me

So is the universe.  Point to me when nothing existed

No it would not.  It has simply always existed.  There is no paradox

Why MUST something have a beginning?  Several theories of a infinite universe exist such as string theory

You simply repeat a fallacy over and over

You seem to think if you say it then it must be true 

I'll try that

SOMETHING CAN ALWAYS HAVE EXISTED

Hey... that works.  Lol 

Cite your evidence that abortion is more dangerous than childbirth.   That is ridiculous 

You are just repeating a fallacy over and over.

Time has had no end.....why must it have a start?

The most popular debate on here now is over the forum being dead

This may be the dumbest idea I have ever heard of.   Lol

This is where you go wrong.  Why can't something always have existed?  In fact all evidence points to that it has

Why can't something have always existed?  Why is that not possible?

The big bang like lots in science is unexplained 

The religious immediately go.....must be god!!!!!

Like they used to say everytine we had an eclipse.   Lol

Unexplained science is just unexplained science.....not evidence of god

That is factually incorrect.  Abortion is always safer than pregnancy.

Perfectly acceptable reason to abort is just convenience.   It's a brain dead organism that also might kill you.  In fact no reason at all is required by law in states that allow abortion

If driving is consent to a accident then it's good that you can have medical procedures for that.  Same for sex.  We can correct mistakes with medicine.

But it might kill her.  You don't get to decide how much of her life she should risk.  It's easy to say she should risk her life.....from the safety of the waiting room

Great. So no mothers are dying in childbirth?  Oh wait....yes they are.  And everyone of them goes thru pain and hardship.and most have to put their career on hold.  Pregnancy and childbirth are easy....but only for the guy in the waiting room

Don't want to get in a car accident?  Don't get in a car.  I live in the real world with real solutions

So we have something inside the mother that could kill her and it is essentially brain dead at that time. 

Perfectly fine with me if she flushes it.  Her ACTUAL life comes first

Not a human

Ever 

Ignored

You are dismissed until you agree to refrain from insults 

Ok now we have something to work with

Childbirth always carries the risk of death for the mother.  She is absolutely justified in saying she does not want to risk her life

We kill the innocent every day in America on purpose.

Then next of kin can authorize the death of a brain dead patient.  Most common method is starvation by removing the feeding tube.  A fetus has the same eeg reading as a brain dead patient and it is risking the life of the mother.  Killing it is perfectly justifiable

Almost no debate here.  Maybe 2 or three people a day show up

Pick anything.   If you want debate then provide evidence for your claims

Start anywhere

Show me one piece of evidence 

I see none

Dismissed 

Another claim.lacking evidence 

Dismissed 

Neither is a claim without evidence 

Good.  That means a fetus is not a person

Well actually Biden does not have the power to do any of that.  Lol

He then claims his fiction as fact

There is no evidence of a ark 

Then cite your evidence 

If I have evidence I DONT NEED FAITH

Nope

And therefore they are not persons but property

Are you sure you're ok?

Are you okay?

Can you read my posts?

Don't you love these personal questions?

I guess you don't want to answer personal questions 

Me neither

Ask them again or insult me and this is all you get

OK then I will just talk about you.

Should I wonder about your reasoning?

Can you be saved?

Is it difficult to be you?

We count all persons every ten years and never count a fetus.

Why?

But is it too late to save you?  Let's talk about you and not the debate

That's not insulting....right?

Every person gets a birth certificate

Every person is counted in the census

Every person is entitled to apply for government benefits

No fetus gets that

It may be too late to save you.

Yes.  A fetus is not considered a person anywhere in the country 

As you wish

Mockery it is

If you don't like these comments...you should not have said them

You seem to have difficulty in finding supporting documentation. A rational being might begin to question that being's beliefs.

We could debate.  But you will stop the insults first

Be polite be nice and make your point

Or else just be mocked

I wonder about your reasoning ability.  

It may be too late to save you.

So 0.0001%?   Lol

Now we have it

You have faith not based in evidence 

So do the Muslims, jews, Hindus......etc

But somehow YOU are right.  Lol

But you can't back it up with evidence.

The atheist believes in so many things that have evidence

I know it is not valuable. You believe it is because of ignorance. 

Dude anyone can say that

It's called an opinion not a fact

She has a point. 

All that says is that a man likely existed

Maybe God is dead.  Oh wait....that's not in your magical rules