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@Speedrace
Do you have any idea how Ani could be the doctor? Does she like, become a doctor or something?
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@PressF4Respect
I guess but we're gonna look real stupid if he is doctor
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@RationalMadman
@Vader
@oromagi
@PressF4Respect
@simplybeourselves
I'm doctor.
Thoughts?

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@Crocodile
I'm doctor.
wati wahta

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Hmm Oro has a point. I think the best move is to wait until warren comes and see if he has objections, if there's no time we can just lynch croc.
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@RationalMadman
i guess, but it also helps go to consumer experience. plus, i have no problem helping companies grow.
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@oromagi
oh shit what they're an antagonist? i wont reveal my char or role but im one of those guys and im town i swear
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Ok ok I just finished reading like the 7 or so pages I missed. There are two possible answers for Crocodile's playing. One, he's a complete idiot of a town. Or two, he's genius scum. How is he scum? Well, first off, I'd like to say that he is definitely Ani. It's not likely it was a fake claim provided by pie and it's way too risky in case of being cc'd. But he's not town either. What really threw me off wasn't the sudden claim but the repeated hinting at a power role. With an established miller, this kind of play seems to be baiting the cops. Why would he want a cop to investigate him? Because he's the godfather. Reading up on the wiki, Ani is apparently very good at socially interacting, yet has a problem with lying: 
Ani often lies about her whereabouts in order to spend some free time pursuing her own hobbies and interests. However, this habit had made her into an unreliable narrator as she also lied to Clay and Jessica about her interactions with Bryce and to Deputy Standall during both of her interrogations.
As shown by that line. 
People were starting to get suspicious of Crocidile so he voted himself and said a bunch of almost painfully idiotic things. This made him more inno? (don't quote me on this last sentence tho)
This doesn't directly contradict what I said about the theme of the game as Ani may look like a good guy, but actually is a compulsive liar. (this is what I got from the wiki, if im wrong please tell me)
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@oromagi
Yeah, and that's what I thought he was saying. The alignment in the show is the alignment in the game was rat's theory. Everyone on that list confirmed that theory and you just did too. While it is possible that the theme is something else, good vs bad is the most likely theme.
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Google cause I don't really care about my privacy that much. I mean, I don't really care if you sell my data, it's contributing to the good of society right?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
That's fine, I think I can wake up before then. What time zone though?
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Hmmm, a lot of people seem to be agreeing with Rat's theme theory. Since the idea is out there we should make a chart to see if everyone's char relates with their role and are good guys.

chart:
1. ratman- says character relates with his role (is male)
2. bearman- says character relates with his role
3. supadudz- says character relates with role
4. press- character relates with role
5. wp- my character has to do with my role


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@RationalMadman
op says 3 scum
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@Crocodile
k buddy
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I don't really care, what time though.
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@Speedrace
Welcome
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@RationalMadman
I don't really remember if pie liked to make his theme divide extremely complex but not gonna lie it's a pretty big jump to not have "any doubt" in your mind about the theme from a total of two characters.
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we aren't doing it based on policy (I am not) his inactivity is only one part of why it's being done.
what are you other parts?

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@RationalMadman

Bro... surely you know that you're being insane right now. With only 2 char claims so far there hasn't been an established theme. Do you really think the theme of all games is bad guy vs good guy? 

ps: can u plz unblock me
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@Crocodile
What? Why did you out your char for no reason? The questions RM was asking you could hardly be classified as pressure.
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Wait wait, if we're gonna do an over glorified policy lynch like oro suggested why are we lynching speed
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@RationalMadman

What? No, of course he's serious. Everyone who enjoys their summer is 100% scum, I can confirm.
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@oromagi
Your helpfulness is really something to behold
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@PressF4Respect
You said that my character claim (more like one specific part of it) didn't look like your PMs. It was implied in your post that it was a possible scumtell. I said it might look like that because I paraphrased it. And now you're trying to say that I intended that remark to show that I put effort into it, and not to say why my char claims don't look exactly like your PMs. You are literally trying to redirect my statement. 
Wait no, because you put a lot of effort into it that means you're null cause both scum and town would put a lot of effort into it.
Then what was the point of #171?
So that supa didn't hard town read you from that character descrpition

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@PressF4Respect
It's called paraphrasing your PMs... 
Ya, which shows you put a lot of effort into it.
Also I assume you're not a miller...
no
Are you seriously trying to get others to scumread me based off of this? It screams desperate.
im not

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@PressF4Respect
No, listen, claiming miller is inherently scummy because it could be a fake claim by scum in case a cop investigated. So you're inherently sus but the play isn't that bad for town.
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@Vader
Well it certainly does seem like press put a butt ton of effort into his char claim. Though the effort itself can't justify if he's town or mafia, on one hand, town would want to convince other town that they really are miller and mafia would want to convince town that they are town. I think when you say elaborate you mean that it's elaborate because it closely resembled the original pm. But while the first paragraph of press's pm does resemble my pm a bit the next two don't really.

Also, he drowned Bryce in the ocean(which seems heinous on the outside) but was doing it in an attempt to protect his friends, and felt deep regret afterwards.
This looks like something pressf added on by himself
Dirty and monstrous on the outside, innocent on the inside. That is why I'm miller.
I didn't have anything like "Dirty and monstrous on the outside, innocent on the inside" before my role claim though

This is just based off of my pm though, and pie might have made it so everyone's pms are different. You guys can look at your pms and see if they look like the char claim that press made.

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@Vader

I didn't say speed was town i said he was lean town. And miller is an inherently scummy claim.
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@PressF4Respect
Well, I wouldn't say vehemently, but I'm not gonna recoil just cause you're putting pressure on me. Relating a claimed role to a character doesn't seem like inherently scummy play to me.
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@Vader
Morning, my sleep schedule has flipped, I woke up at 6 or 7 today. That's 6 or 7 pm by the way.
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@PressF4Respect
I meant the last question in that post itself. You clearly knew what I meant, considering the fact that you only responded to the last question of my 4-question post.
no but i didn't that why i put "I hope this is the last one" cause i wasn't really sure
I said that what you described could be a possibility. I clearly said that he was demanding me substantiate my character claim that early in the game, which is not normal town behaviour. You're trying to misconstrue what I said here, and that raises many red flags.

Why else would he demand an explanation so early on? I'm not saying it's 100% a trap, just that it has hints of being a trap. As far as I'm aware of, this isn't normal townplay.
the way thats worded makes it seem like you thought it was a trap all along
Because I didn't fall for it.
this too
Which two posts are you talking about? The character challenge and the question, or the two "lol" posts?
i dont really feel like i need to answer this question

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@Vader
hoi
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@PressF4Respect
Why do you hope this is the last of the questions?
Because you said to only answer the last question
If I take the bait, I'd essentially be playing right into their hands. Because he suggested it to me, they would claim that I'm lying, and there would be a good chance I would be lynched on DP1.
I guess so
Why else would he demand an explanation so early on? I'm not saying it's 100% a trap, just that it has hints of being a trap. As far as I'm aware of, this isn't normal townplay.
oh really? so you anticipated that speed's char suggestion was the hypothetical trap i just suggested? but you didn't mention it before?
Where was Speedrace decently active? He directly challenged my character claim (demanding an explanation for it ASAP), answered to one question (which was so easy to respond to that it could possibly be set up, and would also make the asker look extremely scummy if they weren't new), and said "lol" twice. That was all he did in this thread. He made only one post which could be counted as substantive.
I would count those two posts as decently active

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@PressF4Respect
The last of what? 
questions
It didn't bank on it, because I already claimed miller.
true
It definitely could. For example, if they CC and manage to persuade everyone to lynch me, then they would have two members down easy. Even if they lose one member, they would still have gotten at least 2 for 1.
It'd be hard to persuade everyone to lynch
Because I didn't fall for it.

I know this might seem blown out of proportion, but based on the way he played so far, I definitely wouldn't put him as lean town.

Also, you claimed he was decently active. How so?
You thought that speed suggesting a char was a trap? And he's been fairly active, he typed character suggestion and responded to the questions on the first and second page. I didn't say he was very active, just decently active.

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@PressF4Respect
Also, how come you're trying to persuade me that it's not a trap, even though you describe the trap that they're not going to try in detail?
I hope this is the last one. Firstly, this plan would bank on you claiming miller, and counterclaiming wouldn't necessarily put mafia at an advantage. Secondly, this trap that may have been set didn't even work. 

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@PressF4Respect
When you claimed miller he said you were probably Monty, could be some elaborate scheme where they anticipate you grabbing the char then other scum counter claims or something, but probably not.
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Reads: 

1. Speedrace- lean town: decently active and provided helpful char and role info
2. PressF4Respect- null/ slight lean scum: as is the case with millers, but he's been pretty active and hasn't made any scum slips or anything
3. User_2006- lean scum: extremely questionable playing, but probably just cause he's new
4. RationalMadman- null: i disagree on his stance for user, but he's been really active and made some useful insights
5. SupaDudz- null: inactive
6. Oromagi- lean town: the thing where he vtl'd speed is his usual spiel as town so don't sus him for that. Other than that, his reply to user seemed really towny (is that a word?) and his read lists are as helpful as ever.
7. BearMan- lean scum: i'd like to think i've been playing enough like town to deserve a lean town read, but even so, it does seem a bit sus, considering how he hasn't really contributed anything to the game and has been largely inactive.
8. Crocodile- lean town: has been making a bunch of really helpful plays and i agree with his cautious opinion about user
9. Warren- null: wait warren was in this game? eh, inactive
10. WaterPhoenix- town: if you're gonna read yourself, might as well make it town
11. LittleCookie- null: same thing as warren except replace "warren" with "LittleCookie"
12. SimplyBeOurselves- null: inactive but at least has an excuse 

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@PressF4Respect
Thanks.
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@Crocodile
Ehhhhh, I'm a bit cautious about just giving him the newbie pass, but I guess this can pass. He'll just be lean scum on my read list then.
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Oh, and I feel like I'm missing something. Did user edit or delete one of his posts or something?
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Wait how is everyone just town reading user, his unhelpful carefree attitude is just as bad or even worse than scum.
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@RationalMadman
I don't think it's a sub-optimal town play. Claiming miller at the start is much more believable than if someone claimed miller after a cop said they were guilty, which would be the sus-est thing ever.
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hoi guys, ill be way more active cause schools out
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@PressF4Respect
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i meannnnnnnn
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@PressF4Respect
wait really? you're a genius
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@PressF4Respect
yes
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No, but what if it's your first time on the thread.
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Why is that when you click on a thread it brings you to the latest page, wouldn't it make more sense to bring you to op?
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@TheUnderdog
The sheer idiocracy of leftists.
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@Crocodile
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dammit
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