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@Intelligence_06
Whether it is a woman and whether one has a uterus or not is two separate issues no matter independent or not.
I kind of is linked together thought, right?
I mean most democrats (not politicians) say that you can't have an opinion on abortion if you are a man.
But if you say you are a woman, then you are a woman, and you don't need a uterus to be a woman.
The whole way they justify men not being able to have an opinion on abortion, is because they don't have a uterus. But I thought I don't need to have a uterus to be a woman?
So either:
A. Trans-women aren't allowed to get opinions on abortion either, therefore proving that they aren't real women.
B. Trans-women are allowed to get opinions on abortion, therefore proving that you don't need a uterus to have an opinion about abortion.
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@Melcharaz
humans have the choice to stop sinning eh?i want you to do it now, and never have to repent again.when you can do that, then i might consider the other things you said.
You need to be careful with your pride there.
You are commanding people like you are the source of all good there is in the world.
If I was truly sinning, as a true Christain you would either tell me that's bad, and leave it at that, or leave it to God.
Saying "I want you to do it now" is pretty prideful dude.
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So when a white teenaged boy shoots up a school we Should see the correlation between mental illness and teenaged boys, right? You are a moron.
YES!!
We should. Right now, in this generation, more and more teenage boys are being subjugated to mental illness because of things like social media, cancel culture etc.
More teenage boys are depressed than ever.
What do you think the population of America is exactly? Not 393 million
Yes, I know.
There are about 331.45 million Americans as of right now.
But there are more guns owned in America than Americans.
So, the number of guns owned is 393 million.
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@Sidewalker
There are more guns in America than people.
Do you think this is funny?
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Here is what happened:
A 28-year-old woman, who identified as a man shot 6 children at a Christain school in Tennessee and fatally shot three of them. This school was K-6 therefore considered an elementary school.
The woman was armed with two assault rifles and a handgun. The woman was pronounced dead by law enforcement at the scene.
First off, this would be considered a hate crime, given the person's identity as a trans-man, and it was targeted at a Christian school. Christianity fights against the transgender ideology, so it would be safe to assume this was the motive.
As for why the suspect targeted children, that could be a sign of some sort of mental illness. Suprise, surprise...............
As far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong) this is the first case in the U.S. of a woman school shooter. Now isn't that surprising?
Does no one connect the dots. The first woman to shoot up an elementary school identifies with the trans movement. Does no one see the correlation of mental illness, and the transgender movement.
Now as for guns. School shootings are very sad. But the answer to that isn't more strict gun laws. The answer is to implement more officers and security for schools, specifically officers with guns to fight back against the shooter.
Evidence has shown that just an officer's presence can cause a threat to leave.
If we were to take away guns from the people, that would cause more harm than good.
I mean think about it.
Stalin took the guns from his people.
Hitler took the guns from his people.
Mao Zedong took the guns from his people.
Fidel Castro took the guns from his people.
Hugo Chávez took the guns from his people.
In every instance where guns are taken away, or made completely illegal, bad things happen.
Is safe to say that most Americans who owns guns, use them, not to attack others, but to defend themselves.
2.5 million incidents involving guns in the U.S. are defense related. And most of those don't end up with death.
393 million Americans own guns in the U.S., yet you don't see the purge happening in the U.S. only a couple sad and horrible cases. We should do our best to prevent these cases with more defense, not less.
If guns were really that bad, and 393 million Americans owned guns, we would all be dead right now in America.
I mean again, look what happens when you take the guns:
"According to the The Black Book of Communism, published by Harvard University Press and considered one of the best sources on class-genocide in communist regimes, 20 million people were killed in the Soviet Union under Lenin and Stalin; 65 million people were killed under Mao Tse-tung in Communist China; 2 million killed in Cambodia under Pol Pot; and 150,000 killed in Latin America, most of the victims in Cuba, ruled by Fidel Castro."
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@Double_R
We've had this conversation before and I've already explained it to you multiple times. You can disagree with someone else's views, but you cannot just pretend their views are whatever you decided and not their actual position.
I am not pretending that their views are whatever I decided. This is strait from them.
The LGBTQ+ community does in fact have faith in the conclusion that men can be women, and women can be men. That is a fact.
The LGBTQ+ community does in fact have faith that it is ok, and good for men to be intimate with men, and women with women. That is a fact also.
The ideas being pushed by the LGBTQIA community has absolutely nothing to do with facts, science, or biology.
I agree. So, if a belief is not based in facts, science or biology, then what is it based in?
I'll answer.
It is based on faith in the ideology/idea.
What the community is talking about is how members of this community feel, how we should treat each other as fellow citizens and human beings, and how we should think of certain terms.
What the community believes is that we should base political decisions and everyday decisions on feelings and not facts. This ideology/idea that they have faith in is not healthy for society, and will not help it to function, develop, or grow.
Again, I am not disagreeing with anything you're saying at this point. What you're saying is 100% right at this point. I am just adding more onto it.
Once again, gender is a human construct. That is absolutely a fact.
Yes, gender is a human construct, that is based in biology.
You can't have a construct, unless it is based in something.
Money is technically a human construct, but it's based in the idea of fairness.
Therefore, gender is based in biology, and that means that men = male, and woman = female. That is an absolute fact.
The LGBTQIA community is not claiming a man can be a woman
Brother.................
Transgender literally means a man transitioning into a woman, or vice versa.
That is what the T in LGBTQIA+ stands for.
If they support Transgender identifying people, then they support the idea that a man can become a woman, and a woman can become a man.
The LGBTQ+ community has literally said out loud (even in front of congress) that a man can indeed transition (become) a woman, and a woman a man.
No, science and biology are not part of this conversation.
Science and biology are part of every conversation, in the world, except for religions.
So, you can't claim that you aren't a religion, unless your beliefs are based in science and biology.
Therefore, the LGBTQ+ movement is indeed a religion.
Do you finally understand this? Yes or No?
I understand that you don't quite understand what you just claimed, and just be prepared for no one to take you seriously in any intellectual conversation when it comes to this subject, because when it comes to this subject you are delusional.
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@Double_R
Wrong. Everyone has a right to their own opinion and always will, this is a basic human right.
Ok dude. I have seen you, countless times state that men shouldn't be involved in this issue, because it isn't their problem.
Wrong. Words in different contexts carry different meanings. On the subject of abortion, when we use the term woman we are generally talking about people with uteruses.
..............what other people besides women have uteruses?
See guys, this is a prime example of delusion.
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@oromagi
Still false. By definition, leftists believe that every citizen has a right to an opinion on any subject.
Unless it conflates with their own. Just look at the media. The majority of it is run by the left, and most of right-wing opinions are either censored or age restricted, while drag queens twerking half naked in front of children isn't.
Your definition of left/right seems to be coming from Tik Tok and Tucker and not from studying the Tennis Court Oath.
I don't have Tik Tok. I don't like being spied on by the Communists.
I also don't watch fox news and rarely watch Tucker Carlson.
I get my definition from what I see.
The cast of the Daily Wire gets content restricted and age restricted by YouTube where they are relaying their own opinions on political and personal topics, none of which are bad.
Meanwhile on YouTube Kids there are videos on the recommended page, teaching kids about pronouns, and consent, and sexual topics. Yet those videos are on YouTube Kids.
Please educate yourself on the meaning of the terms you use before you use them.
I have and will.
Thank you for your concern.
Correct. Leftists seek to minimize government intervention in the lives of citizens.
"They write new content and verify and edit content received from contributors. The Democratic Party is generally associated with more progressive policies. It supports social and economic equality, favoring greater government intervention in the economy but opposing government involvement in the private noneconomic affairs of citizens."
So yes you are correct on this one.
- No, you are using Tucker Carlson's definitions of words rather than the dictionary. When you use non-biased expert sources, you discover that "Scholars distinguish libertarian views on the nature of property and capital, usually along left–right or socialist–capitalist lines. Libertarians of various schools were influenced by liberal ideas. Libertarianism originated as a form of left-wing politics such as anti-authoritarian and anti-state socialists like anarchists especially social anarchists, but more generally libertarian communists/Marxists and libertarian socialists" (Wikipedia)
Yep..........use Wikipedia as your source. Didn't they teach you anything in school?
Libertarians: "an advocate or supporter of a political philosophy that advocates only minimal state intervention in the free market and the private lives of citizens:"
(Oxford Dictionary)
- I've already demonstrated that your argument is formally broken.
How so?
Explain step by step how my argument is broken.
It's a simple observation really.
- Your conclusions are based on a primitive, Tucker-style poltical dichotomy with no relation to the tenants of political science.
What's your deal with Tucker Carlson dude?
I mean he is sometimes really annoying, but so are a lot of other people.
- You don't seem to undersand the dictionary definition of Leftism.
Here's the problem with you. You understand the question, and it threatens you. Therefore, you start to play with definitions in order to get out of it.
You understand what I am saying. So how do you explain it?
- You can't provide one example of a left-leaning politician publicly stating that some citizens are not entitled to their own opinion on any subject under any condition. Suppressing opinion is a RIght-wing character flaw.
I never said anything about politicians saying this. Again, the explanation I wanted doesn't have to do with political leaders and bills etc. This has to do with an ideology.
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@SkepticalOne
Just let me try to understand what you're saying...a clitoris (which everyone who has ever existed has possessed) isn't female genitalia? This has become absurd. I encourage you to take a step back and re-evaluate your position.
Nope, you are misunderstanding what I am saying.
If chromosomes are absolute...how do you think intersex people exist?
Intersex people are born with different organs, not chromosomes.
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@SkepticalOne
Except where it isn't - which you've already acknowledged.
Yes it is, and no I didn't acknowledge that.
Except when we all had female genitalia. This is a clear cut case of special pleading on your part.
No biological man ever had female genitalia, the only sign of that is our nipples.
Think of it as a split in the road.
Some of us split off and became men, and the others split off and became women.
Again, you've already acknowledged exceptions.
No, I made exceptions for the genitalia part. Not the chromosome part. Every human is born with either male or female chromosomes. No exceptions.
Except where it doesn't. You are discounting a group of people that are as numerous as people with red hair. There are more things in reality than are dreamt of in your worldview.
Cannibalism is wrong yes?
Most societies' throughout history would agree.
A small percentage would disagree.
Does the small percentage that disagree make cannibalisms ok or right?
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@SkepticalOne
You're saying male genitalia makes someone male while simultaneously saying female genitalia doesn't make someone female. You undermine your own position.
No, I am saying that male DNA or chromosomes makes you male, and female DNA or chromosomes makes you female.
I am saying that genitalia is most of the time a clear sign of what sex you are.
It doesn't. It has to do with your view that chromosomes are the absolute end-all-be-all of sex determination. They're not.
Yes they are.
In short, your black and white understanding of gender and sex doesn't match the real world.
Well all of human reproduction and history agrees with me.
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@ILikePie5
I think I would support Trump over DeSantis.
But I also don't think it would be a good idea for DeSantis to run this year, because of yes, his political career.
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@b9_ntt
I have my own opinions on the 2020 election, but overall, biden won and served and it's in the history books. Whether it was fair or not, I can not say, but Biden was elected, not Trump. Therefore he is eligible to run in 2024.
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@SkepticalOne
Sure, everyone starts with labia and a clitoris. You can try to argue this isn't female I suppose, but you do so at the expense of being taken seriously.
How so?
FYI, individuals can be born with genitalia that doesn't match their chromosomes. Suffice to say, there's a lot that you don't know about human biology. I say that as someone who recognizes I still have a lot to learn about it as well, so don't take that as an insult.
Well, I do know about what your talking about. Yes intersex people exist, even they make up a less than 1% of the world population.
But even then, these people still have definitive signs of being either male or female.
What does this have to do with everyone being female first?
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@badger
Ok here's a problem for you. It seems to me that it's actually Republicans that are creating the demand for transexuals what with all the transexual porn they're watching. Well, that's the real encouragement, right? If you like, the left is just accepting the problem the right is creating.
You have yet to show how many liberals watch the same things. Is it more? Is it less?
The fact of the matter is, these are specific people with their own beliefs. You can't frame all republicans, just because some of them are hypocritical. That is an individual decision.
I am personally saying that this is wrong. I can't speak for others who are hypocritical.
4.7 million transgender porn related google searches a month and the vast majority coming from Republican states. That's a whole lot of money and a whole lot of fake titty surgeries.
Ok? Just because they are coming from Republican states, doesn't mean the people watching it are Republican. You do know that their are democrats in republican states and vice versa, right?
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@badger
I'm not running away. I'm right here. Conversing with you just makes me feel a little icky is all.
Well you are.
You said you were going to explain, then decide not to, sooooooo...........yea.
Also, how are you calling me disgusting, when I am arguing that we should stop sexualizing kids, stop all this trans nonsense etc. If I was truly disgusting I would be promoting it. I am not the one who tried tried to get my political agenda into the school's or pornography into the schools. That's what leftists did. I am saying that we should stop involving kids in politics. Just leave them alone.
That's just desperate, dude. Have a little self respect.
All you said is that i care about kids and turned it into something sexual. You are sexualizing it.
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@SkepticalOne
All human individuals—whether they have an XX, an XY, or an atypical sex chromosome combination—begin development from the same starting point. During early development the gonads of the fetus remain undifferentiated; that is, all fetal genitalia are the same and are phenotypically female.
Yes. That is what I stated.
They start development from the same starting point, but their predetermined sex is different at conception (aka) chromosomes.
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@badger
Oh wow. You'd want to be careful there.
Well being that I am still technically a kid, I do care about myself and what I am being taught and what my friends, my little siblings, and children around the world are being taught.
Again why do you all have to sexualize everything?
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@badger
I'll explain your thing if you explain
Ok then.
Another leftist running away from the argument.
Typical.
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@badger
Nope. I just care about kids. You can do whatever you want once your an adult over the age of 18.
But I am still allowed to question the contradictions in your logic.
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@badger
Very much.
People watching Trans pornography is disgusting.
Now, let's hear your explanation for my question.
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@SkepticalOne
No one starts of as female in the womb.
The sex of the baby is predetermined at conception.
Now it is true that the process of a male child's body being created does have the same process as a female child's body up until a certain point, but the sex never changes from female to male. It is predetermined at conception.
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@badger
This proves literally nothing.
Yes you can track who is watching porngraphy and what kind it is, but can you track the reason for it?
It could be other things besides sexual pleasure, like for research on transgender people's and showing how disgusting it is.
I could use the same argument for leftist. Most leftists want to reduce law enforcement, but as soon as s*** hits the fan they call the cops and expect them to show up.
People watching Trans pornography and then saying it's wrong is very hypocritical. That's the statement your making with this article. And your right. But what does that prove? Yes their are a lot of hypocritical conservatives. Their are also a lot of hypocritical democrats. The fact that some conservatives are hypocritical doesn't refute my argument.
So now you answer my question.
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@Sidewalker
I don't believe in "conversion therapy", but I hate to see a youngster so conflicted, how about next time you get excited thinking about trans genitals, take a cold shower, that might help.
Yes, I hate to see children with gender dysphoria too, which is why we need to stop making it so popular and causing more children to fall victim to this.
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@Best.Korea
@WeaverofFate
Ohhhhhhh ok.
I guess I will also pick Best.Korea if they are willing to participate as well.
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@Double_R
Then by all means, support your assertion.What are the key characteristics of a religious movement and how does the LGBTQ movement qualify?
Religion: "a particular system of faith and worship:"
Now a God in this instance doesn't have to be a literal God in the sense of an omnipotent being. It just has to be a belief in a personal God.
God doesn't have to be a being. It can be whatever you worship in your life.
For the LGBTQIA+ movement, they have faith in the idea that a man can be a woman, and vice versa. They also have faith that it is ok for a man to be intimate with a man and a woman with a woman. They worship the trans-ideology, and the ideology itself is their God.
It is a belief in something that is not supported by science or biology.
No, most leftists put standing up for marginalized communities at the forefront of their politics.
What are they doing about our borders? Or our homeless? Or our people in general?
No, they are too busy letting people flood our borders, and giving money to help start WWIII.
The only reason we spend half the time we do talking about the LGBTQ community is because of the political right's obsession with this.
Uhhhhhhhhhh...................who started this whole thing again?
This isn't just illogical nonsense, it's demonstrably false.
From our fear of our own mortality combined with our narcism.
Where did our morality come from?
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@Sidewalker
If you really want to be "straight", you're just going to have to stop being obsessed with trans people's genitals.
Maybe you should start being concerned about it.
It's hurting kids.
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@oromagi
False. Every leftist will stand up for every citizen's right to have an opinion.
Unless you want the freedom to have guns, make abortions illegal, make castration and cutting off of limbs for children illegal, making child pornography illegal, confronting corrupt democratic officials, and etc.
Leftists seek to minimize government regulation of human organs and natural processes.
WHAT??!!!
You do know that leftists fight more government intervention, right? I think you're thinking about libertarians.
Leftism priorititizes human rights over property rights.
Children in the womb are not property. They are not defined by where they are located.
Rightism prioritizes property right over human rights.
Nope. Conservatism prioritizes the baby's right to the mother's womb, and Leftism prioritizes the mothers right to kill a child.
Any argument that the unborn child's right to live surpasses the US Citizens' right to healthcare autonomy and privacy is an inherently leftist argument, just as any argument that the US Citizens' right to healthcare autonomy and privacy surpasses an unborn child's right to live is likewise a leftist proposition. RIghtism claims that property rights surpass any human consideration and so the chief executive of the relevant estate controls all human functions pertinent to that estate. Only Trump's grab-em-by-the-pussy bridgade and other teenaged pervs are thinking about citizen's uteruses and how to center public policy around the inspection of citizen's crotches.
Then explain the issue I proposed.
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@Melcharaz
you dont understand what you are saying. if i applied the precept you just said, i would put in prison all the child servants of a drug lord, dictator, etc.
No.................because the child servants wouldn't have chosen and wouldn't know the extent of evil that they were causing.
My precept does not justify this.
you have no idea what evil you just justified with that 1 post. Just so you can defend your right to condemn a human being, truely, satan would be proud.
I did not justify any evil. I stated that people who do bad things should be held accountable. Thats why we have laws and regulations.
do not take your foolish reasoning any further, just repent of cursing and criticizing the man God put in charge. and instead be angry against the demonic influences.
Ok, so I guess I will just keep letting the Biden Administration continue, to hurt others, break down our country, and also let our country down.
Again, we as humans have the choice to sin or not. The devil doesn't make you sin. You do. So, I am going to blame you for something that you do.
I am not cursing Biden; I am criticizing him. And coitizing is not a sin. Jesus criticized the Jewish religious leaders, for not being good leaders.
If what I just did is considered a sin, then did Jesus' sin as well when he confronted the Jewish religious leaders for being corrupt?
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@Greyparrot
@PREZ-HILTON
I'll have Greyparrot if they are willing to judge.
The 2nd judge is your pick.
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Let me get this straight.
So, you guys say that you can't have an opinion on abortion if you don't have a uterus, right?
But then you guys also say that you don't need a uterus to be a woman, right?
So, should Trans-women (men) be allowed to have an opinion on abortion?
If yes, then............well you're contradicting what you just said.
If no, then you're contradicting the statement that Trans-women are women, because there is something that separates them from biological women. You're telling a Trans-woman (a man) that he can't have an opinion on abortion, because they aren't actually women.
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@Melcharaz
no, you are allowed to speak ill of the evil that is done, not the person who does it.we dont fight against people, we fight against spirits, darkness, principalities.
Yes, this is true we do fight against spirits, darkness, and principalities.
But humans, are slaves to these things, and make bad decisions, by their own doing. No one makes them. Evil spirits, darkness, and principalities don't have the ability to force humans to do things.
Therefore, I am allowed to point out that a leader is making a bad decision and call it out.
It's not a sin to call out a bad leader.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Laissez-Faire capitalism is more efficient than social democracy
I'm willing to take pro on this one.
We pretty much agree on all the rest.
Thoughts?
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@Melcharaz
remember to not speak ill of leaders. God sets up whomever he desires.
I am allowed to speak ill of leaders if they are doing something that is hurting or killing others.
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Yes Trump is being an idiot right now.
Why are you even covering this?
What are you proving with this post?
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That literally just proves my point dude.
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What?
I know right. "Mind-blowing".
Yes, gender dysphoria is just like wanting to be Superman, you idiot.
It's more similar than you think.
It is a child believing they are something that they are not. Now gender dysphoria is a more critical condition because it is a mental health problem, but it is the same concept.
You mean a generation that doesn’t think mental health problems are just a sign of weak character?
No, a generation where mental illness us promoted. It's not a sign of weak character, it is a sign of mental struggle.
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That’s a lie. That is not what liberals say. These kids need support and understanding as opposed to bigotry and shaming. If they want surgery at some point that should also be available to them.
You literally just proved my point.
Again, let's look at the title of this forum.
Conservatives won't be satisfied until all the Trans kids have killed themselves.
This imply that Conservatives want certain people to kill themselves. This is an opinion and not a fact.
Most Conservatives are Christian, which means that we don't want certain people to kill themselves.
So you are basically arguing, that by Conservatives not wanting kids to be fed drugs and have their body's torn up, that is wanting them to die.
If Conservatives really wanted them to die, then we would let the democrats continue down this path.
But instead we are fighting against it, and giving a solution that Is less risky and works more than cutting of parts of a child's body.
Well dummy, it’s conservatives who are passing all these anti-trans laws in backward states like Kentucky which is where this kid was from.Read the article dummy
No, it's conservatives who are saying that they don't want kids who are not mature or intelligent enough to make life changing decisions that could potentially hurt or kill them, to get surgery, be fed drugs, and get castrated, just because they feel like something else.
When I was a kid, I though I was superman. Glad no one promoted jumping off roofs and flying, because with enough convincing I probably would have.
Kids always think that they are different things. That doesn't define reality dude.
This kid is dead because of idiots like you. Idiots who bullied him. Idiots who wouldn’t accept him.
No, this child is dead, because they had mental health problems in a generation that pushes mental health problems to be a good thing.
Idiots who wouldn’t let him use the girl’s bathroom
So you admit, it was a him.
SIR YOUR NOT USING THE RIGHT PRONOUNS.
Do you realize what you just said? You just said that they made him commit suicide, because they wouldn't let him a boy into the girls restroom.
Yea because that makes total sense.
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@Melcharaz
I am in no way cursing Biden to hell. The Bible days nothing against noticing that your leader is doing something wrong, and pointing it out. It's called constructive criticism. Yes we should have faith in God that he will protect and provide like always, but that doesn't mean we can just be stupid. That would be like me saying:
God always provides, so I'm not going to work and hopefully some food, a house and running water are provided for me.
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Wow, several Americans. Would your concern fade if you learned these Americans were born in Afghanistan?
...........just think about that sentence for one second.
Actually Trump negotiated the withdrawal of American forces from Afghanistan. It included freeing 5000 Taliban prisoners from jail.
Nope. That was Biden dude.
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Not much of an argument Rosavelt.
Maybe stop using kids' suicides to push your agenda. Asshole.
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Remember when Biden handed Afghanistan to the Taliban, and gave them our equipment?
Remember how he said we got all of the Americans out?
Biden is more worried about pushing an agenda, helping Ukraine, and helping trans the children. But not help the Americans who are trapped, behind his mistake.
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No, that’s false.
How so? What makes it different?
Only in a society of illiterate peasants, which is how religion got started in the first place.
But America became a thriving society, with the idea of Christianity and Freedom.
theoretically? That’s exactly what happened when societies began to form. The rulers used the concept of God to give themselves legitimacy and to keep the ignorant masses in line.
God does exist. But even if he didn't this would still keep society together. America doesn't use Christianity to control, because we also promote religious freedom, so no one is forced into it.
But just the idea of it keeps everyone happy and nice.
That’s nonsense. Where are you getting that idea from?
Read a history book dumbass.
From ignorant, illiterate, superstitious people thousands of years ago.
But it helped to make thriving civilizations.
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This obviously is a sad situation.
You have a confused kid, who most likely suffers with gender dysphoria.
This is a horribly sad situation, but this could be avoided if the parents had made the decision to take their child to a therapist and help them to come to terms with their biological sex.
Most children who suffer from gender dysphoria, and don't get any surgery and go to a therapist, 95% of the time come to terms with their biological sex.
The solution to these confused kids isn't to bully them, give them drugs, or cut off their body parts and organs/ castrate them.
When a child says to others and parents that they feel like the opposite gender, parents and everyone should take that as a call to help and a sign that their child is suffering with a mental challenge.
The left loves to use the argument that people with gender dysphoria will die (commit suicide) if they don't get surgery and transition.
But they fail to realize that less kids will suffer from this if you stop pushing the transgender movement. Less kids will have gender dysphoria the less you push it.
You want to stop these suicides, then stop pushing this agenda to confused kids and screw them over mentally and psychologically.
Also, Rosavelt, I don't understand what this story has anything to do with conservatives.
You are using a sad situation where a kid committed suicide to justify giving drugs to kids and cutting off their body parts.
Now that is sick. This was a child human life, and you are using it to push an agenda.
You're sick.
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@Double_R
His delivery can be pretty terrible and unproductive, but he is absolutely making a valid point. It never ceases to amaze me hearing right wingers who constantly put religion at the forefront of our politics accuse the left of indoctrination.
You could also argue that the LGBTQ+ movement is a religious movement.
And most leftists put that at the forefront of our politics as well.
The difference is that you can't have a functioning society without the idea of a God.
God is what keeps everything in line, so theoretically even if God didn't exist, the mere idea of him would help society amazingly.
The USA constitution was founded on Christianity and Freedom, and we became the most successful country in the world because of that.
No adult would believe the nonsense religions teach if they were not taught it from childhood, the only way religion survives is through indoctrination.
Then where did the idea of God come from in the first place?
People always ask, what is the meaning in the universe, and atheists say there is no meaning.
But the fact that we can even ask that question proves that a purpose exists.
C.S. Lewis says it best:
"If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning.
Just as if there were no light in the universe, then therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark."
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He is pushing for a bill that will ban it for K-12 as well.
But in general, at this point we are looking for the least bad person to lead, not the best, and by far, DeSantis (I think) has done a lot for the conservative movement.
Just take a look at everything Trump did to stop LGBT.
What did he do.
He made speeches about how bad it was. He never put anything into effect for it. A lot of what Trump did during his presidency was a lot of talk and no action. Not to say he didn't do a lot, because he did do great as a president.
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I do tend to talk politics when I’m on a political chat site. I’m just crazy that way.
Hey buddy. This is not just a political chat site. This is a debate site. Look at the forem page, and look at all of the other topics.
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I agree with Ron on many things, but he was not very strict on LGBT.
He was extremely strict on LGBT.
He is the first governor to make a bill that bans the teaching of LGBT to kids 3rd grade and below.
He stopped the indoctrination of little kids and gave parents the rights to their kids education back.
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