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@Lemming
Welcome!
No I don't, but I really wish he'd join the site...He's a swell dude.
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@Mharman
Not at this time, but I'll keep you in mind. Though, as the game progresses, I am more likely to replace in dead players if I need replacements, because the catching-up curve will be less. Also, please don't post in this thread.
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@ethang5
I think repulsion often drives bigotry, but I do not think it is itself bigotry. Consider that I am repulsed by vaginas--they just look gross. Like some kind of wierd sarlacc thing or a slimemold. That said, I can still believe that women deserve equal regard to men and that heterosexual sex is entirely morally permissible because I refuse to allow that disgust to shape my views to the exclusion of other, moral considerations.
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Attention
LM is replacing Sloth. Supa is replacing Pie.
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LYNCHED LAST DP
Supa - You are LWAXANNA TROI. Ever the busybody, you fluster, discombobulate, and frazzle everyone around you while somehow making yourself the center of attention. Because of your ability to create chaos, you are the NEXUS. Each night you automatically and passively redirect all players who target you to another random player. You win with the town.
DIED IN THE NIGHT
Budda - You are EZRI DAX. I never liked you. Jadzia was oodles better, and it was horrible the way she left the series. Because I'm bitter, you are VANILLA. You have no role. You win with the town.
GRAVEYARD
Supa 1 - Lwaxanna Troi, Nexus - Town
Budda - Ezri Dax, Vanilla - Town
LIVING PLAYERS
Aporia
Argent
DPR
Grey
Lunatic
LM (Sloth)
Supa 2 (Pie)
Vaar
Warren
Wylted
With 10 players, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 6:00pm, EST, on 11/13/18
The DP ends at 6:00pm, EST, on 11/13/18
Good luck! And let the games begin!
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@blamonkey
That was already done. The thread where people were offered an opportunity to weigh in was linked in the OP.
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@drafterman
Based on this, anonymity is not being restored?
Correct. Ethang and RM dissented. I would need more than 5-6 "yes" votes to determine that a clear consensus in favor of that proposal existed. However, the issue is open to future debate and if, at some point, a consensus does emerge after a public discussion, I would be willing to implement that proposal.
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Following from the public discussion that I initiated, which itself followed from various suggestion box threads, I am posting this list of finalized changes to moderation policy. Those policies with a clear consensus of support were adopted. Two-thirds of the suggested changes will be implemented.
1. No longer post vote remove notices on FF, troll, or conceded debates2. Whenever a vote is borderline, default to considering it sufficient3. Whenever a vote is removed, explain--briefly--how the voter could improve4. No longer post detailed analysis in notices on non-removed votes5. Allow users to summarily post the contents of mod PMs so long as no non-public information about other users (other = not the sender or receiver of the PM) is revealed by the revelation.6. Lock objectionable or COC-violating threads instead of deleting them, unless leaving them up would severely breach a user's privacy or safety rights7. Cap the number of vote reports that a user can make per day at 108. No longer prohibit the use of slurs so long as those slurs are not intended to render insult to the subject of the comment9. Make all significant changes in mod policy subject to a mandatory 2-day public comment period
Those proposals that were not adopted, except for the proposal allowing only voters and debates to report votes on a debate, met with mixed feedback in the discussion, with at least 2 objectors each. I am still willing to adopt the "mixed feedback" proposals if and when a clear consensus in favor of them emerges. That is to say, they are not permanently off the table. Ultimately, however, 2/3rds of the proposed changes will be implemented. The new policies will come into effect tomorrow if they have not already. If you have any questions or concerns about these finalized changes, please feel free to comment.
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Final Tally
Lunatic (1/7) - Vaar
Supa (7/7) - Aporia, Budda, Argent, DPR, Warren, Wylted, Grey
Results
Supa was lynched! He was innocent.
The DP is over. Stop posting.
Submit night actions.
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Vote Count
Lunatic (1/7) - Vaar
Vaar (1/7) - Warren
Supa (4/7) - Aporia, Budda, Argent, Wylted
Budda (1/7) - Grey
Time Check
About 1.5 hours remain in the DP. This will be the DP's final time check.
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@Ramshutu
I like the idea. I think LM proposed something similar.
Does anyone else have any thoughts on it?
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@Vader
Please remember to be polite.
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Vote Count
Lunatic (1/7) - Vaar
Vaar (1/7) - Warren
Supa (6/7) - Wylted, Aporia, Budda, Grey, Argent, Supa
Time Check
About 2 hours remain in the DP.
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Final bump for feedback before a decision is made.
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Vote Count
Budda (2/7) - Supa, Grey
Lunatic (1/7) - Vaar
Vaar (4/7) - Budda, Warren, Aporia, Wylted
Time Check
There are about 21.5 hours left in the DP. Activity prompts will be sent out to players with fewer than 10 posts.
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Hi!
I'd love to have a replacement, and maybe a back up volunteer replacement (if I need you), for my mafia game. If you're interested, PM me!
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Happy Election Day!
While polls are still up, I am encouraging you to exercise your civic right to cast a ballot. Voting matters, and is one of those civic freedoms we should value most highly. So, whoever you're voting for, please get out and vote before polls close (usually between 7 and 9pm, depending on where you live).
-Bsh
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@David
Show the most popular threads and debates (in the voting period) on the home page.
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Vote Count
Budda (3/7) - Wylted, Supa, Grey
Lunatic (1/7) - Vaar
Vaar (3/7) - Budda, Warren, Aporia
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Time Check
About 48.5 hours remain in the DP. Plan accordingly.
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Vote Count
Budda (2/7) - Wylted, Supa
Wylted (1/7) - Grey
Aporia (1/7) - Argent
Lunatic (1/7) - Vaar
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Vote Count
Budda (2/7) - Aporia, Wylted
Wylted (2/7) - Budda, Grey
Aporia (1/7) - Supa
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@Smithereens
Does that mean you agree with all 12 points?
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Vote Count
Budda (1/7) - Aporia
Aporia (2/7) - Wylted, Grey
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Welcome to Star Trek Deep Space Nine Mafia!
RULES
Read all of the following information carefully. It will behoove you to do so.
Activity
You are required to make 15 posts per DP. At least 7 of those posts must be substantive. A substantive post is any post that advances the progress of the game. The determination of what is or is not a substantive post is mine, and mine alone, to make.
Failure to meet this activity standard makes you eligible for replacement. If you know in advance that you won't be active, tell me ahead of time, otherwise I will have a lot less sympathy for you. For those who were insufficiently active but who had legitimate reasons for the low activity, I will expect you to make up for your inactivity in the next DP. You may receive 1 activity prompt in the last 24 to 12 hours of a DP; this is not guaranteed. A failure to get this prompt out to you will not excuse any inactivity.
PM Etiquette
Don't use PM structure, wincons, PM time stamps, or things of that ilk as points of analysis in the game. Discussion of these issues is strictly prohibited. You may not C/P anything from your PMs into the game or take photos of your PMs. There is to be no communicating via non-mod-initiated methods, even with teammates or hydra halves. This means there is to be no game-related discussion on G+ hangouts, rabb.it hangouts, unauthorized PMs on site, PMs offsite, etc. If you suspect or know that any such communication is taking place, you are obligated to inform me immediately.
Remember, paraphrasing is your friend. You may only paraphrase PM content. An acceptable paraphrase should substantially change the original wording of the passage, and that change should be noticeably more than mere deletion, addition, or substitution. I am willing to pre-screen your paraphrases if I have time. Violation of the rules in this section ("PM Etiquette") are the most severe breaches of rules in my games, and will most likely result in instantaneous mod-kills.
Other Issues
Observe civil and good conduct. Except in cases of exceptional rudeness, anyone who violates the conduct policy will receive 1 warning. Violations past that warning will result in you being replaced or mod-killed. What constitutes civil and good conduct is at my discretion. Additionally, all players must play to their wincon. Attempts to throw the game will not be tolerated. Play to win. Finally, excessive spamming, trolling, or thread derailment will also not be tolerated, and operates on the "1 warning, then replacement/mod-kill" paradigm.
Cycles and Voting
All DPs will be 72 hours long until the total number of players is less than 8. At that point, all DPs will become 48 hours. NPs will always be 24 hours less than the previous DP (so, a 48 hour DP is followed by a 24 hour NP). I am willing to grant extensions for the DPs or NPs upon request, but it will be at my discretion whether to grant those requests. DP extensions will be 12-24 hours; NP extensions will be 6-12 hours. Votes or unvotes cast in twilight will not be assessed. Once a lynch is secured, the DP immediately ends; you must refrain from posting after a lynch is announced or secured. Only two warnings will be offered in twilight reminding people to stop posting. Posting after the warnings may result in a mod-kill. A policy of majority (as opposed to plurality) lynching is in force for this game. You are not required to unvote before re-voting, but you are required to use the acronym "VTL" to preface your votes and to bold your votes. Sometimes, when I am in a hurry, I will do a ctrl+f search for "VTL" and "unvote;" so using those specific phrases is important.
THEME
The theme of this game revolves around Star Trek Deep Space Nine. You can learn more about this topic at the following wiki: http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Main Do not use the beta wiki, as that is for non-canon material. The wiki I linked is correct, and is the alpha wiki. All players have characters and roles.
RESOURCES
*neither a comprehensive nor definitive list
LIVING PLAYERS
Aporia
Argent
Budda
DPR
Grey
Lunatic
McSloth
Pie
Supa
Vaar
Warren
Wylted
With 12 players, it takes 7votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 11:00pm, EST, on 11/7/18
The DP ends at 11:00pm, EST, on 11/7/18
Good luck! And let the games begin!
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@Tyrone
Lol
(though seriously...just call me bsh).
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@Castin
Do you agree with all of the proposed changes?
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@Drafterman
I think you missed the obvious intention of this. Virtuouso suggested this. Being a mod and not an idiot we can discount the possibility that he was suggesting, as a change, something that is currently implemented.
In fact, I suggested it, but this is being posted here for comment to allow users to object to it if they want. Obviously, it's already implemented, but I still want community feedback on whether it should continue to be in place.
Thanks for your comments on the other suggestions.
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@McSloth
@ArgentTongue
This game will go up tonight. If you are unfamiliar with how to play, I can give you some basic assistance, and I will post reference material in the OP. Good luck to all!
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@Lunatic
@Greyparrot
@Wylted
@Vader
@ILikePie5
This game will go up tonight. If you are unfamiliar with how to play, I can give you some basic assistance, and I will post reference material in the OP. Good luck to all!
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@Buddamoose
@TheDredPriateRoberts
@Vaarka
@warren42
@Aporia
This game will go up tonight. If you are unfamiliar with how to play, I can give you some basic assistance, and I will post reference material in the OP. Good luck to all!
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Since the "suggestion box" threads have died down, I am posting this thread to propose certain changes to moderation policy. I would like feedback on these proposed changes, and to know what the community thinks of these changes. I understand there is a desire for moderation to change how it moderates, and Virt and I are committed to working towards reflecting community values to the greatest possible extent. I believe these proposals are a start, but certainly not a finish, regarding that endeavor. Some of these proposals would require technical changes, and all would require Mike's final approval. Please review the proposals and offer your questions, comments, and thoughts.
1. No longer post vote remove notices on FF, troll, or conceded debates
2. Whenever a vote is borderline, default to considering it sufficient (currently implemented)
3. Whenever a vote is removed, explain--briefly--how the voter could improve (currently implemented)
4. No longer post detailed analysis in notices on non-removed votes
5. Allow only debaters and voters to report votes on debates (this may require non-anonymous reporting)
6. Reinstate anonymous reporting
7. Allow users to summarily post the contents of mod PMs so long as no non-public information about other users (other = not the sender or receiver of the PM) is revealed by the revelation.
8. Lock objectionable or COC-violating threads instead of deleting them, unless leaving them up would severely breach a user's privacy or safety rights
9. Allow mods to disclose the reasons for a ban, via PM, upon request by a user
10. Cap the number of vote reports that a user can make per day at 10
11. No longer prohibit the use of slurs so long as those slurs are not intended to render insult to the subject of the comment
12. Make all significant changes in mod policy subject to a mandatory 2-day public comment period
Again, please feel free to comment and offer your thoughts. I will be posting a discussion on other mod topics (like voting) this upcoming weekend. This thread will be open for feedback for a few days, until interest in this thread dies down.
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@RationalMadman
Virtuoso was correct insofar as the mods don't have that power, but incorrect insofar as it is possible to have a user name changed. I referred the user cowscreen to Mike, who changed the user's name.
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@RationalMadman
I believe they had their username changed.
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@Vader
Yes, but the agenda behind it to some extent worries some people. Privacy is a key issue and some people would obviously not feel so comfortable for a total stranger to see who they reported when they don't like it.
Based on my history of comments on the issue, I am a big proponent of respecting users privacy. By putting this up to community discussion, the goal is to allow the community to decide what it wants, precisely to remove the issue of their being some kind of nefarious agenda.
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@Vader
The reason this thread exists is to discuss these issues.
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I have some more thoughts on this which I'll post later, hopefully...
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I will be collecting various ideas from all the "suggestion box" threads to put forward in a mega-thread sometime this week.
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I will be collecting various ideas from all the "suggestion box" threads to put forward in a mega-thread sometime this week.
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@David
Frankly, it would reduce the overall amount of spam reporting, and I don't mind *some* spam reports.
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@Ramshutu
@Drafter and Ram
This was something Virt and I had discussed. I am wondering though what happens when a debater is not online to make reports. How would you feel about restricting reports to the debaters and voters on a debate?
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