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@Public-Choice
I’ve heard it was Fox News who pioneered the use of the phrase “Some say [fill in the blank]” which is basically a blank check for a reporter or interviewer to say whatever the heck they feel like without consequences. Countless articles referenced “the so-called ‘Can’t say gay’ bill” in Florida. The phrase is a lie, but when referred to as “so called” and embedded in quotes, reporters can say it as often as they like.
Spinning a narrative without telling outright lies is an artform. Just look at the narrative offered against the compound dihydrogen monoxide:
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@Public-Choice
White Propaganda: truthful statements that are negative about an opponent or positive about your side.Grey propaganda: mixed-fact statements that are negative about an opponent or positive about your side.Black propaganda: outright falsehoods about your opponent or your side.
Nicely summarized. Of course, the first is the one that major news outlets peddle most often— the last would require retractions and would eventually ruin the outlet’s reputation, at least as far as the mainstream goes.
Even when offered in a completely factual manner, story selection and what is chosen to be repeated ad nauseam vs. what is only mentioned once or not at all has great influence on the political zeitgeist and says a lot about an outlet’s agenda…
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@Greyparrot
Delay by a month? Why would waiting until November make such a difference? Oh… say no more!
See if you can say this with a straight face: “If only we had invested more in wind and solar, we wouldn’t be in this mess right now!”
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@Shila
It’s not very respectful to refer to human beings as a “plague.”
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@Shila
DeSantis will be seen as begging for federal handouts.
Yes— by those who vote for his opponent… who will lose…
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@Greyparrot
Well, if you call him DeathSantis, how can he possibly win?
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DeSantis is just the worstest leader ever… who will be the next POTUS in a landslide. Where’s the justice?
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@Greyparrot
I voted for Obama over McCain believing the Republican party was forever lost to the Neocons in 2008.
Ha! Me, too! I see our invasion of Iraq as one of America’s greatest foreign policy blunders, and we’ve made a few doozies…
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@thett3
It has been cited as evidence of bigotry against transgenders that “90% of people surveyed would not want to date or marry a transgender person.” Bigotry? No, that’s just the very nature of sexual attraction and preference. Am I “bigoted” against men for not having wanted to date or marry a man? No. It’s just an absurd claim…
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@Sidewalker
Not sure about the Democrat, too soon to tell maybe.
That’s a bummer; this is my main curiosity… from anyone who is rooting against the GOP…
As an ex-Republican who left the party because of Trump and what he did to the party, I'd like to see Trump run again, he's turned losing into a lifestyle, I think we can count on him to lose again.
Odd— you would rather the source of your frustration return to the helm of the party than fade into irrelevancy? You have essentially given up the GOP for dead and write it off as being beyond repair for the rest of your days?
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@Sidewalker
Trump is often his own worst enemy when it comes to unforced errors. Two questions:
1. What do you think about a President Harris in 2024?
2. Who would be your preferred presidential candidate from both parties in 2024?
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@bmdrocks21
I think the distinction you are looking for here is a sense of closure, a sense of what is in the past. Hitler was around 20 years dead, he had died knowing he was defeated, and most of his cronies were held to account, when these shows were made, so it was not the urgent, visceral hatred one might have for the living, especially if that living person appears to be “getting away with it.”
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@bmdrocks21
You can make fun of people you don't like - very effectively, in fact. But people you hate? Basically impossible.
That’s an interesting observation. The only exception that I can think of is Mel Brooks’ directorial debut, “The Producers.” It actually manages to make lighthearted fun of Hitler and the Nazi regime. It’s brilliant and hilarious. Oh, and much less brilliant (and much less hilarious depending on whom you ask) the TV series “Hogan’s Heroes.”
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@RationalMadman
True… sometimes there are individuals you would rather not argue for your worldview…
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This thread won’t age well… I’m starting to think a Republican ran over his cat or something…
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@IwantRooseveltagain
I was talking about the downward pressure on prices, not upward.
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@ILikePie5
Yep— the market has been pricing in a recession for awhile now, plus Biden’s release of the SPR. These are temporary shocks, IMO. As wintertime sets in, the reality of fossil fuel demand will rear its ugly head again, and oil will resume a steady climb, I believe…
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@Sidewalker
That's just a white supremacists made up thing
What would be some hypothetical examples of actual anti white sentiment, claims, principles, etc. that anti racists are rightfully not engaging in?
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@Double_R
Probably for the same reasons that the Democratic caucus decided to call out all racism rather than just anti-Semitism in response to Omar’s use of anti-Semitic tropes— it’s politically expedient to diffuse blame, for one.
I’ve already answered earlier the question posed in this thread to my satisfaction. I certainly never intended it to be to your satisfaction or the OP’s if you’re wondering. Back when Obama was saying that marriage was between a man and a woman, no one saw homosexuals flocking to vote for McCain or Romney in protest, I don’t believe.
I know; I know— you cannot even cast a reasonable doubt over fact-check.org’s reporting because it is well-regarded even by the left-leaning. It gives a side of the story which mainstream media has neglected to its shame. You are simply left to dismiss contrary information out of hand as is your MO.
As I said earlier: refusing to acknowledge contrary facts isn’t unique to Republicans… it might even be a human race thing…
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@Double_R
Condemnation isn’t about reading words off a piece of paper that someone else wrote in response to controversy you started.
This is Trump talking, not reading, unless you can prove otherwise. You seem to believe his press secretary writes like Trump talks. “Believe me” is from a written statement? From the article:
“You had a group on one side that was bad,” Trump said. “And you had a group on the other side that was also very violent.” He added, “I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups, but not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch.”
Whereas you believe Trump started the controversy, I believe biased reporting and quote mining started it, and references to such have continued ever since.
The fact check is a red herring, of course Trump has met the technical definition of issuing a condemnation, that doesn’t mean anything to anyone except people like yourself trying to gaslight others.
Fact checking an accusation is… a fallacious distraction from addressing that accusation? “Trying to gaslight others”? Quite the ironic and unproductive accusations from someone allegedly looking for “serious discussion.”
Just more of your usual strident claptrap…
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@Greyparrot
Ya gotta be careful even with those sanctuary cities. After Chicago Mayor Lightfoot chastised Texas Gov. Abbott for sending migrants to Chicago, she then sent several dozen to a suburb without warning:
“Suburban Mayor Says He Was Unaware Migrants Bused To Chicago Would Be Moved to His Community”
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@Shila
Cool! So, you don’t think The Beatles are overrated? I thought you did, as they were on my (joke) overrated list in post 37 which you agreed with…
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@Shila
Ok so, what artists do you believe are “properly rated” in the Pop/Rock genre?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
What type are you flying currently, just out of curiosity?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
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Trump: “I’ve condemned neo-Nazis.”
You: Not exactly a strong condemnation here.
Me: Well, whatever gets you through the day!
Not taking contrary facts onboard— it’s not just for Republicans…
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Here’s something ya don’t hear everyday… or ever:
“Trump Has Condemned White Supremacists”
But don’t let facts get in the way of a highly effective narrative (well, except for all the POC who voted for Trump)…
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Trump represents a “giant pulsating middle finger” to political correctness. He trolls the PC crowd. He is a protectionist— of trade, the border, and US labor.
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@Shila
What artists do you believe are “properly rated”?
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Frank Sinatra
Miles Davis
Elvis
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Led Zeppelin
U2
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Nirvana
I kid; I kid…
Taking all time great talent and calling it overrated is simplistic and isn’t a value add. Overrated lists are overrated. I probably only read them to be either scandalized or to find a kindred spirit (less likely). Actually identifying artists which are underrated takes real knowledge, taste, and insight.
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@Sidewalker
When an issue directly affects you and your family, you pay attention to it.
No doubt. I would be interested to learn how Republican policies have negatively affected you and your family since 2008 on the basis of race, but it might be outside the scope of this particular thread…
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@TWS1405
I don’t think this has so much to do with the actual level of racism in our society as it does with our obsession with the victimization and oppression due to racism. If you look at the concept of intersectionality— it puts the most victimized people groups at the top of its pyramid. What does that mean? The most victimized and oppressed identities get the most benefit of the doubt, the most attention, the most admiration, the most imputed nobility. Victim = hero; oppressed = noble.
As I like to joke, Chicago Mayor Lightfoot could be at the top of the intersectionality pyramid if she were Muslim and handicapped.
It used to be all about economic class; now it somehow became about identity. I recall a hilarious Monty Python sketch where a group of gentlemen were trying to outdo each other over how poor they grew up:
“At least you had an apartment. We only had a cardboard box out on the sidewalk.”
“Luxury. We didn’t even have a box to live in.”
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@Sidewalker
of course I'm going to see it in terms of race
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts looking like a nail.
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@Sidewalker
I know you “get a pass.” That… is my point! Conservatives know that criticizing an individual who happens to be black is not racist… another aspect of the point I’m making. Every Republican president from Nixon to the present day has been accused repeatedly by the press of being a racist, fyi.
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@Sidewalker
Ah… well, you hurl accusations of racism and white supremacy in a way that would make any progressive glow in admiration. In that case, a rewording is in order: luckily for you, you vote Democrat and the POC you lambaste does not.
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@Sidewalker
Again— Luckily for you and your criticism of a POC, you aren’t a conservative, nor is Walker a Democrat…
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@Sidewalker
For saying that, Walker gets this:
“The Racist History Behind Herschel Walker’s “I’m Not That Smart” Debate Comment”
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@Sidewalker
Here in Georgia, there's going to be a debate, your candidate can't come up with a coherent sentence, he's a laughing stock, unless the debate rules say you have to tackle your opponent to win, Walker is going to be humiliated,
If conservatives claimed of a Democratic politician of color what you do here, they would be labeled by Democrats and media outlets as racist and have no recourse. Luckily for you, you aren’t a conservative, nor is Walker a Democrat…
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Biden is certainly one of the happiest presidents. Every morning when he wakes up, someone tells him he is the POTUS.
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There are really only two types of thinking:
1. Binary
2. Non-binary
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@Greyparrot
By handle you mean kick them out to a military base? sure!
So, if every township could just follow MV’s example and tend to 50 migrants for a day before sending them somewhere more appropriate, our immigration problem could be solved!
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So… what did the op ed think DeSantis expected to happen? For Martha’s Vineyard to jail the 50 migrants?
Ya know, if only every township could handle 50 migrants this well, we would have our immigration problem solved… right?
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Here’s a documentary about white privilege, told by a black man living undercover as a white person:
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@Ramshutu
Even Australia can’t hold a candle to China’s enviable death rate of 4/1m. It looks as though China’s policy of welding apartment buildings shut which housed an infected person REALLY worked.
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@Avery
Well, in the brief times I’ve been there, you can see older folks trying to sell things on the street. Evidently, when taken in the context of the high cost of living there, Singapore’s version of Social Security isn’t enough to get by, and most citizens don’t financially plan for retirement properly.
Here’s one of several articles:
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@Tejretics
Good post.
It has to choose between meeting the inflation target or avoiding unemployment much higher than it currently is, which would be devastating for the working class.
I think it would be worse for the middle class. I see “hiring” and “help wanted” signs everywhere, and they are almost all for retail stores and restaurant workers. The unskilled labor market seems tighter than ever. This stands in contrast to prepandemic.
Here’s a look at the most in-demand types of jobs:
With a few exceptions, most vacancies are in lower salary, unskilled fields. I think the issue will be not so much pure unemployment as massive underemployment.
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@Lair77
If you’re looking to get into the STEM fields, it is worth it. Some fields, such as law and architecture, are pretty saturated, so buyer beware. Degrees in the social sciences are mostly a waste of money unless someone is intent on becoming a schoolteacher. For-profit universities are almost always a ripoff… again, buyer beware. Worst case scenario? Going into debt for a social science AND then dropping out. Both the system and yourself are ripping you off there…
What matters a lot, and no one has mentioned yet, are internships in one’s desired field.
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