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@Athias
Religion is no less rational than Evolution
OYG.
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@Mopac
Yes like the Scandinavian countries who by every metric are better places to live than America. You have no idea of what socialism is. Please get an education.
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@Dr.Franklin
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@Alec
I told you what a fair compromise is and you respond with more childishly ignorant nonsense.
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@RoderickSpode
God's are merely man made claims, nothing more.
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@RoderickSpode
You mean the genocidal maniac? It's love? pshaaaaaw.
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@Alec
This wisdom is brought to you by Alec's school yard sex education.
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@Dr.Franklin
Just look at the puerile school yard language these children use, they know absolutely nothing about sexual intercourse only what they've heard in the playground and they think that's true. Why are children allowed on this forum?
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quack the coward
There is no conclusive ex biblical evidence that the bible Jesus ever existed. If you claim there is then produce that ex biblical evidence of the miracle working character claimed in the bible.l
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quack
what, the slaves in your prison system? What a numpty,, address what I write and not the fantasies in your empty bonce.
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@Alec
Yes your side is that women are not entitled to the same rights as men are. You have no reason for that claim, but as an ignorant conservitard you don't even understand the abortion question. Your attitude is that women are the property of men.
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Just one of the conservitard mantra's.
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quack
if you disagree with me,you're unreasonable.
Just one of the conservitard mantra's.
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@RoderickSpode
1. God is formed in the image of man.
The funny part of this statement is that it's at times suggested that if there is a god, he wouldn't have human traits, or bother with communicating with a mere human on an individual basis. The problem with this of course is that it's a preconceived notion of how a god would be. It's still a very humanidea that may have it's roots in the idea that people in power or are famous generally don't associate with the common man.Another way to look at it would be, perhaps man being made in God's image is why we possess some of God's traits that actually originate from him.
It most definitely has it's roots in the unequivocal fact that men create gods and create them in the image of man..
2. Christians are afraid of death.
Well, some are, and some are not. Some atheists are, and some not. I guess the idea in some cases might be that it's a manhood issue. A bravado thing. It's a terrible argument because accepting provision for eternal life is no less cowardly than accepting provision given to us by law enforcement, the military, etc. Unless one really thinks that isolationists who hide out in a cabin in Idaho ready to attack anyone(s) including the law are braver than those residing within civilian law are braver. And even if we concede that they are braver, is that really an intelligent approach?
It's not a matter of accepting provision for eternal life but an absurd hubris that you are too important to die. you have almost convinced yourself that you won't die and that almost pacifies your fear of death. You refuse to accept that you are an animal that has evolved on this planet and like every other animal that has evolved on this planet you will die. But you think that your god is omnistupid, he created this vast universe just for a place where you can live but he really wants you living somewhere else, oh durr.
3. If God existed he would make everything crystal clear to where there would be no need for a Bible, or the Bible would be completelunderstood the same by everyone.
This is particularly interesting, because we humans tend to value study and hard work in general. For instance, most people given a hypothetical option of either going to school and learn via study, or having a computer chip placed in our brains giving us all the information we need to know, thus the school experience (the prom, playing sports, friendships, etc.) are no longer needed, most people would probably favor going to school and study. We value the ability to learn from experience and personal research, and the right to think for ourselves. Why would this be any different concerning the Bible and the study thereof?
Your god is not capable of conversing coherently and that is because we humans want to think things through except that the incoherent messages from your god are crystal clear about one thing. Do not question, do not think, just obey.
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@Mopac
When I think of socialism, I think of abolishing private property, government ownership of production, and the eradication of religion as government policy. I think the soviet union that killed over 20 million Orthodox Chriistians(and many Jews as well). I think China which puts the religious into reeducation camps, forces people to worship in state monitored facilities, and puts portraits of their president at the altars of churches. When I think socialism, I think atheist theocracy.
The word you are conflating with socialism is fascism and your country is marching inexorably down that path.
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Hey quack
The US has killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan, all hail American hegemony.
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@Athias
Of course but you lack the mental faculties necessary to understand my one liners it requires a capacity for deeper thought.
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@Alec
She loses the right to have an abortion.
Wrong. She loses the right to bodily autonomy. Here's a compromise if you strip all women of their bodily autonomy then you strip the same right from men.
Now that is a fair compromise.
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pollywanna
supply evidence that the US doesn't supply weapons to hammas and isis. You don't understand reality.
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@Mharman
Don't give me that BS. Why do you think we put those bases there?
Because the USA is determined to control all of the earth. The US is the the most dangerous regime on the planet.
Is it because the US is just a bunch of "big meenies" or it because Iran has consistently threatened the US and it's allies?
The USA has consistently threatened every country on the planet, lets have them bomb themselves
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@Mharman
wooohooo how insane can you be claim tht the country being surrounded by enemy forces is the aggressor?
Oh that's right it's stupid yanky .
For the unbelievably slow, here is the Iran aggression.
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@Athias
This afterthought defeats the point once you still decide to submit your comment.
Do you speak (type) English?
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@Stephen
why cannot the bible make up its mind who moses' father-in-law is
For the same reason that nobody knows who Spiderman's twin brother is, it's a fantasy.
Post #74 Steffi?
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@Athias
Have you read the title and OP of this thread? Never mind.
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There is no proof for any gods.
And yet people are stupid and scared enough to believe in them.
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@Stephen
Because as I have said, putting up a link or simply saying it's all bullshit doesn't answer those questions. I am glad that finally sunk in.
Asking those questions is the equivalent of asking why Harry Potter chose one spell over another. None of the actions or conversations ever happened so there is no justification or logic or reason for the questions you asked. It's really quite simple.
Why did Major Tom lose contact with ground control?
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@TheRealNihilist
Yeah he's not the sharpest donut in the box.
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@Mopac
And it is certainly worth saying since you are awfully opinionated about these matters.
Pot meet kettle, your arrogance is pathetic.
Now you can be offended at this and get prideful about it,
Pot meet kettle, your arrogance is pathetic.
or you can stop pretending to have knowledge and receive correction. I know what I believe. I know what the church teaches.
None of which relates to knowledge, it's all belief in the words of ignorant, primitive, superstitious savages. Belief is not knowledge.
There is only shame in this if you insist that you know when you really don't.
But your arrogance is incapable of the shame you should accept.
Now believe me when I say that I want you to have a proper understanding, and don't fight me about it. You could, but it wouldn't be beneficial.
You display the haughtiness that you decry in others who show much less of it than you.
You are a hypocrite.
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@TheRealNihilist
Mop can only regurgitate the platitudes he has been indoctrinated by rote. He can't answer questions he can only regurgitate the dogma he has been indoctrinated with, you'll notice that all of his posts contain some or all of the talking points in the book he has been forced to memorise.
His god is the UR
His god is truth
His god is the trinity
His god what his religion says it is
His god is spelled with a capital g
His god capital g is different to all other gods because he gives it a capital g.
His god is the only god
His god is also Jesus
His god is also god the father
His god is also a holy ghost.
Question just one of his contentions and he accuses you of questioning any and all of the others and abandons the claim you have contested.
He is completely dishonest.
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@Stephen
Are you ever concerned by how hatefully pathetic you are.
Show me your response to post #18 and #63
Oops you can't but that's because you have a very poor grasp of both English and comprehension.
Time for your vile rant about the nothing vile I've said, it is amusing.
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@Stephen
In this instance It defeats your claim that I dismiss the verses out of hand, your comprehension skills just don't exist do they you vile little man lol.
You didn't respond to post 18, so every claim above concerning that is a lie and post 18 actually answered your OP question but you aren't capable of understanding that. Never mind I don't hate you.
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@Stephen
I know you've run away from this but it stands as refutation that I dismiss the claims out of hand. My reasons for rejecting these mythical events are valid and answer the questions you pose in the OP. Of course you won't understand that.
There is an almost universal consensus among scholars that the Exodus story is best understood as myth;[36] more specifically, it is a "charter" (or foundation) myth, a story told to explain a society's origins and to provide the ideological foundation for its culture and institutions.[1] While some continue to discuss the potential historicity or plausibility of the Exodus story, the overwhelming majority have abandoned it as "a fruitless pursuit" (Dever, 2001).[37][38] There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, and the Sinai Peninsula shows no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE (even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy).[39] In contrast to the absence of evidence for the Egyptian captivity and wilderness wanderings, there are ample signs of Israel's evolution within Canaan from native Canaanite roots.[40][41] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus
It's the equivalent of asking why did Harry Potter use this spell instead of the other spell, it's meaningless because nothing of the sort happened.
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@zedvictor4
And the new god is desperate for money. Give, give till it hurts.
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@n8nrgmi
Without illegals Trump could not have built his phallic monuments to his ego.
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@Mopac
That's why you walk around in long black dresses with funny hats, they're not invisibility cloaks everybody can spot you.We take remaining unspotted from the world very seriously.
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@Mopac
Haughty.And you can't because you are faithless and refuse to accept instruction.
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@Mopac
History shows that the Catholics kicked the Orthodox out, you've got it backwards again.
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@Mharman
Like I said you can tell that Iran is the aggressor by how close they've put their country to hundreds of US military bases.
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@Mharman
Your lack of understanding is normal.
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@Alec
@17 you have no knowledge of the world, I don't know who is teaching you but they are woefully inadequate. For you to even suggest that rape is a right that has been taken away from men is absolutely disgusting. You need much, much better mentors and you won't find them among conservitards.
30 attempts. lol. Who looks after the kid she didn't want because she couldn't afford it. naive child.
The fetus is a parasite if it isn't wanted, the woman's ACTUAL right to bodily autonomy supersedes the rights that you claim the fetus should have but doesn't. Real rights supersede imaginary rights.
Now show me the insults. Or are you just another liar.
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