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@Stephen
Proof positive that you don't know about the theory of evolution at all.I know about the "theory" and that is all it is , a "theory".
. You have made a massive claim
It's not a massive claim, it's the theory of evolution.
I've told you to get an education.
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@RoderickSpode
You can disagree as much as you like, you just can't prove you are right.
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@n8nrgmi
Who's rights are you willing to abuse?
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@Mopac
Well done Mop, nobody got pregnant before 1966, you fucking genius.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Unless you violate a woman's right to bodily autonomy how do you determine the existence of a fertilized egg?
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@RoderickSpode
That wasn't the question nor was it the answer I gave, why do godists need so desperately to lie but yes I know there is no creator.
There is no need for one.
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@RoderickSpode
Neither can your imaginary god.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
So actually you don't understand the concept of questions, they don't constitute claims. Never mind most godists have trouble with intelligent conversation.
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@PGA2.0
It is not me who is delusional but you. You are in denial. You show how much you care about what you believe by constantly shouting down the Christian worldview as wrong and erroneous. You constantly go out of your way to engage in this topic which shows how much you care about it.
I deny that all of the gods created by man, and that is all proposed gods, exist. You can classify that as denial, unfortunately it's truth. What is it that I neglect in order that go out of my way to engage in this topic. Typing a few words on a keyboard is not going out of my way, if it is for you then you have my pity.
Another entire paragraph attacking me and not anything I've written.
If that is the case you are a fool. You speak of things you do not understand. The very fact that you choose to engage and the vitriol you show by your constant ad Hom attacks shows the contrary to what you state.
Look up ad hom and then read your paragraph. I mean really!
Your existence is not explained by your existence. That is a tautology. It says nothing. Somehow you got here. Somehow you are.
Without my existence I would not exist, I was born and I am. That seems to be a concept beyond comprehension.
First, this is oversimplified. If this life did not matter why are you being so inconsistent and making it matter by arguing with me? Holding to your worldview it just doesn't matter yet you fight tooth and nail to make your particular belief matter.
Your delusion goes much deeper than I thought if you believe that arguing with you gives my life any meaning and that I'm somehow fighting tooth for a worldview that I have never expounded upon and that you have never the less assigned me. Do try to be even a little honest.
Because you continue to exist leads me to believe you want to live longer, and I'm glad of that! Maybe one day you will be led to the truth of your existence and I wish you well in that respect.
I exist until I don't and my continued existence doesn't rely on what I want, you seem confused bout this. I have the truth, we live and we die, I'm sorry you will never understand that truth.
Your ultimate fixed standard places genocide, child rape, human sacrifice, infanticide and slavery on the GOOD side of the moral ledger they are nothing of the sort.
You and your disgusting version of morality is what is wrong with this world.
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@PGA2.0
I made a general statement about worldviews and then I got specific about yours. I say generally because it is irrelevant to someone who has not thought about their existence or does not care. You seem to be in the camp that says they don't care, yet even your words betray that sentiment as I will point out below.
You made a general statement and erroneously attempted to apply it to me, someone you know absolutely nothing about, you fail. Your second sentence is you trying to pigeon hole me into your erroneous generalisation when you know nothing about me. I am not in a camp and you never got around to supplying my sentiment.
An entire paragraph about what you think of me and not a word about what I write, in your absurd paradigm you would call that ad hom.
Your worldview is not the majority one
Will you just look at that profound nonsense, my worldview is my worldview and not anyone elses, still generalising ad homs.
Generally speaking
Been there got the T shirt.
Here again, your words betray what you state previously and even those words are loaded with meaning ("what could I possibly care about that"). There is a difference between what you could and what you do believe about existence.
My words betray what I have previously said, at least I'm not a hypocrite like some others here. As you pointed out so comically I've said before that my existence is undeniably a result of my existence.
The fact is you have stated you don't know, you doubt you would care, and then you appear to care since you add the words "very much." So, your whole sentence is pregnant with doubt and inconsistency. On the one hand, you imply and deny that you care and then on the other you add the caveat emptor "care very much."
It's actually incredibly straight forward. I would need to be in that situation to give an honest (look that word up) answer but I don't think I'd care very much after all I have to die sometime, unlike you and your godist mates I have no fear death, I even recognise it's reality.
You also might like to look up caveat emptor.
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@Mopac
People don't hate you they wouldn't expend that much energy on you, they laugh at and pity you because that is the best you can hope for.But they hate me to fulfill what was said by Christ...
Provide, with proof, anything that was said by a "christ".
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@Stephen
Once more for the demonstrably dimwitted.
The theory of Evolution.
You obviously don't understand the answer so go and get an education beyond the kindergarten level you currently possess.
Why do you enjoy demonstrating how ignorant you are?
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@Snoopy
Oh god! Not socialism again!Basically, an equal slice for each child
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
How is the hole exactly the right shape for the puddle? Intelligent design?
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@RoderickSpode
Actually I'm asking you how you know that no one is communicating with God.
That is the easiest thing in the world to know, gods are the creation of humans and have no means of communicating with humans.
No one is communicating with the non existent.
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@Mopac
Answer the question. You claim that your ultimate reality ties all realities together. Now answer the question.
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@RoderickSpode
You don't seem to understand that the whole story is fiction. What do you think of Voldemort's powers?
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@Mopac
Exactly how many realities do you have?It should be obvious that there is a reality that ties all realities together. A reality that gives all other realities their existence. A reality that is persistent. A reality that accounts for everyrhing.You know, The Supreme Being. The Ultimate Reality.How can one deny this when to deny this is to deny all reality?The Truth is God.
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@ronjs
Willful ignorance. You have no right to housing, heating, medcine, computers or anything else created by science. If you are honest and consistent you will only avail yourself of what you claim your creator created.
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@RoderickSpode
Don't run away, it's unbecoming. Face up to the scenario, show a modicum of courage.
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@RoderickSpode
Provide a creator from which to seek wisdom.seek wisdom from the creator,
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@RoderickSpode
To which god was the prayer directed.
Which god received the prayer and which god acted on it and how can you know this?
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@PGA2.0
Don't ask me questions and then answer erroneously on my behalf. Your definition of true is what bounces around in your bonce and that is a piss poor definition indeed, it only works in your world of delusion.In your everyday life do you try to make sense of existence by adopting particular positions? Sure you do. Those positions, your worldview, shape how you look at your existence. Obviously, that is true.
Your worldview, as does every worldview, attempts to understand why you are here and supply the meaning.
Wrong again.
For an atheist, your existence is explained in a limited way by natural unintelligent random processes.
For an atheist, as for everyone, my existence is explained by my existence. That existence is limited in a cosmic sense but I'll enjoy it for time I have it.
There is no ultimate meaning
Finally you've told the truth. We are born we live and we die, just like every other animal that has ever and will ever exist on this planet.
You make meaning for the protection of your existence and hope others buy into that meaning because it means you live longer, so existence is important.
You prove with every word you write that you live in delusion and know ABSOLUTELY nothing about me. Why would I want to live longer, dead sounds alright.
But without an absolute, unchanging best, a fixed and ultimate standard
Your fixed and ultimate standard partakes in infanticide, genocide, childrape, human sacrifice and slavery, my self appointed standards are parsecs better than that so I don't know why you keep claiming superiority. An argument could be made that Hitler had a higher moral standard than yours.
Gods are the creation of human imagination, don't be scared you won't even know you are dead.
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@PGA2.0
I answered you very specifically which makes you, as always, a liar.You sidestep the question as usual to misdirect.What you have said is that you are alive and that you will die and you accept that but if someone threatened your existence right now with death would you care? But as I said, this misdirects what I was getting at.
Would I care if someone threatened my life right now?
I dunno I'd need to be in that situation, but I doubt I would care very much.
Death comes to us all and we won't even know it.
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@Mopac
And what of the other male?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
So everybody is expected to recognise the fantasy realm where someone refuses to accept reality. Gay marriages exist and if a person or group claims that that isn't reality then they are living in delusion and need mental health care.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Once again you conflate religion with legal. Churches can marry two Llamas if that's what they want, they just have no right to tell anyone else who can be married.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
What you are missing and therefore why you don't understand is that the religious objection to same sex marriage is that homosexuality is a sin. Divorce and premarital sex and any number of other things are sins and for consistency would constitute an objection to marriage of those sinners but hypocrisy prevents that behaviour.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
You are not arguing legality you are arguing religiosity and there is no religious consistency with the religious objection to same sex marriage.
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@Mopac
Your church obviously has an inadequate message that's why it's such a small cult.
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God's are man made
Religions are man made
Marriage is man made.
Get over it.
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@PGA2.0
For the one I am and for the other I will, what could I possibly care about that?
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@Wrick-It-Ralph
No! Mop defines ultimate reality as his god.
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@Mopac
You claim that your ultimate reality is a god and gods are the creation of human imagination and since your claim is that your ultimate reality is a god then the imaginary god fulfills your your claim.
You only talk nonsense.
Jesus said, "Blessed are the pure in heart, they will see God"
Prove it.
You keep running away from this, is that just cowardice?
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@PGA2.0
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Your god's morality is dependent on the time and culture in which it is practiced. Certainly not the never changing basis that you claim.
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@Mopac
I'm denying a claim made by humans, it's really quit simple.
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Jesus said, "Blessed are the pure in heart, they will see God"
Prove it.
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@Mopac
You claim your ultimate reality is a god ergo your ultimate reality only exists in the imagination of humans.
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@Speedrace
But we're not talking about what Christians believe, we're talking about what the Bible says
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If the bible gives any figures on this I'm unaware of it but even if it did how have you determined that the bible is an accurate source for determining it?
Speedy: Because we're talking about Christianity...
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@Mopac
Prove it.Jesus said, "Blessed are the pure in heart, they will see God"
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@Mopac
The ultimate reality.The Ultimate Reality.What do you think that means?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
You are talking about what ignorant, primitive, superstitious savages claim. Why should anyone take any notice of those primitive beliefs
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@Snoopy
So if men make rules about morality you believe them? WOW what other man made rules do you believe, the sun revolves around the earth perhaps?
You accept the morality of ignorant, primitive, superstitious savages who command people to stone their disobedient children to death? It's obvious that you are in dire need of questioning your morality.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
You conflate religious objections with moral objections. You need to elucidate on both and reconcile your conflation.
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