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@Fallaneze
Why is this the definition prime, eternal consciousness and creator of the universe, the god you wish to discuss? When was this god first posited to exist? Why can't the discussion concern a god who creates thunder? There are many gods posited to have existed before the one you wish to discuss. The god you have chosen is very much a Johnny cum lately god.
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A classic: From creator god ==> Specific God
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@secularmerlin
Not me mate. LOL.
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@PGA2.0
Making sense.
A giant green six legged frog created existence.
Superman comics are proof that superman exists.

My claim is that what God says it true.
And yet you have nothing that your god has said.

Since you do not have trust in God that would be your requirement that you dictate to God.
Oh most assuredly it is the believer who dictates via his imagination to god. His imagination determines every action, all behaviour, all attributes and concepts of the god they believe in.

What was prophesied to happen in 70 weeks and did it occur in that time frame.
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Paradise _ Then what?
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@Melcharaz
the bible is my proof of paradise
The bible is only proof that men write books, end of


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Does God Fore ordain? or only see the future and react to it?
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 But the question is when did God know Fred would make such a choice? preordained or as it unfolded? 
Read the fukin scenario.

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@Melcharaz
Id word it differently, Id say God knew fred would choose to go to hell and he would be merciful to fred regardless of how evil or disobedient fred was.
But that would just be a lie to appease your irrational and contradictory beliefs regarding your god.
Fred is not going to hell in this scenario Fred is already in hell according to gods knowledge thus making your god not omnipotent for if he was then he could make changes to that scenario.
He's being merciful by torturing Fred for eternity WTF? You need help with understanding the meaning of words.


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@Melcharaz
I hold that scripture is inerrant and flawless.
BATS

To assert that shows you don't understand the wrath of God against sin
Whoa, god created sin. The way you describe your god he is schizophrenic.
I demand that you sacrifice me to me so that I can stop being angry at me for creating sin which I really hate me for.
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Theists, Atheists and Agnostics!
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@Melcharaz
actually nephalim or giants before the flood are the result of aliens (angels) interbreeding with human females.

This is hilarious. Everybody knows it was a Dr Franfurter experimental cross breeding of dinosaurs and lowland gorillas.
Why do you expect people to believe your outrageous fantasy? And what of the giants after the flood?
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@PGA2.0
I'm not being irrational. What is irrational about not being able to see Spirit? It is you, not me, who believes God is make-believe. 
What is irrational is claiming without supporting evidence that such a thing as spirit exists. I also believe that your heaven is a pacifier for your abject fear of death, both of my beliefs are sound and you have no evidence to contradict them.
BTW the "seeing" problem is what you brought to the table, so you answer it.


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Theistic Rationale
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@Melcharaz
Rationality cannot touch the unknown.
But it's a wizz at detecting the non existent.

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@PGA2.0
As you've been told over and over again, the claim is not in any way evidence and your bible is the claim.
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It's not my problem that your fantasies are more real to you than reality, the same can be said of the man who claims to be Napoleon. Some people naturally suffer from these afflictions.
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@PGA2.0
What about the archeological evidence?
Provide said evidence supporting the Exodus story.


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@Melcharaz
Paul was anointed by the holy spirit to write what God would reveal to us
Who says.

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@PGA2.0
You are being irrational. How can you see a Spiritual Being?
You are being irrational. How can you see a make believe Being?
You are being irrational. How can you see a non existent Being?




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@Yassine
Obviously not.
Yes
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The Contingencies of gods.
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@Melcharaz
What reason would anyone have for believing what is written in the bible, written by ignorant, primitive, superstitious savages?
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@Melcharaz
Mercy pardons and is freely given

A sacrifice was needed
How can it be FREELY GIVEN when a SACRIFICE was NEEDED?
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@Melcharaz
Your god knows before creation that Fred is in hell and yet he creates Fred anyway, your god created Fred to be tortured for eternity, what a loving god.
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@Yassine
I see you never graduated kindergarten playground argumentation. Run along child.
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@Melcharaz
Paul? Who died and put him in charge of which gods are which?
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@PGA2.0
History refutes most biblical claims.
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@PGA2.0
The bible (a book written by ignorant savages) claims that the bible claims it is god's revelation of Himself and of creation?
So you place your trust in the words of ignorant, primitive, superstitious savages.
Good for you.
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What does 70 groups of 7 mean and why you think it means what it does: FOR PGA
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@PGA2.0
Have you determined yet why the hole fits the puddle so perfectly?
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@Melcharaz
What mercy, what pardon was given?
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@Melcharaz
If your god is omniscient (knows all) then he creates billions of souls to be tortured for eternity.
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@Yassine
You can't say I believe god is... therefore god is.
Then why do you?


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@Yassine
Your god is contingent upon the story of Muhammad, without that story your god doesn't exist.
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@Melcharaz
How many gods do you have?
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@PGA2.0
God when the Bible claims it is His revelation of Himself and of creation?
Where does this god claim that?


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@Yassine
-Ahem, 'Quran' in Arabic literally means 'The Recitation'...
You have a very limited education. The quran is a book, the fact that you are incapable of recognising a book puts you in the brainstem only class of arab.
Only humans write books, your book was written by humans who claim your god exists. Nothing claimed the existence of gods before the existence of humans, ergo gods are the creration of humans.


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@Yassine
It's a recitation, but whatever.

It's a book, numpty
Why don't you establish its truth first.
Supply ant book not written by humans.
The Quran claims that a god exists. True
Before man existed there were no claims of gods. True.
True. Dispute it.
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little steve.
So the violence of the yahweh god will be dishonestly ignored in your biased argument.
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@Yassine
- You seem to be very keen on making unsupported claims. Why don't establish what you just claimed?
The Quran is a book. True
The quran was written by men. True
The Quran claims that a god exists. True
Before man existed there were no claims of gods. True.


Wrong! Established* claim, unlike yours
Then support your claim.
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@Outplayz
If one truly thinks they die and are gone forever
Why would anyone think anything else except to pacify their fear of death? What has anyone seen or experienced that would suggest otherwise.


I choose to believe my definition is correct. 
If your belief is a choice then it's not a belief, it's a method of pacification.

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Careful numpties you have a shadow following you.
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Seriously: Where Is The Outrage? Where is the Western Media?
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I do too. I have reason to fear it. But I am not allowed to be afraid of it ( so I am an "islamophobe") and I am not allowed to say why I fear it ( because that is  spreading hate) and that is because of people like you, prosser
Who TF is stopping you?

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@scaredycat steve.
RESPECT.
Something wingnuts know nothing about, especially Slump and Stephen. Such sad little people
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@PGA2.0
Daniel 9:24-27 is not vague. It is very specific
Yes it is look.
24 Seventy weeks are decreed upon thy people and upon thy holy city,
Very specific, to bad it was out by 488.5 years.

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@PGA2.0
And the soul of the aborted straight to heaven and god's love. No greater gift can be given a soul.
Abortionists are doing the job that preachers continually fail at, sending souls to heaven.
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@Outplayz
I believe i die from this reality/world.
Like I said

You don't believe in death.
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@Fallaneze
"prime, eternal consciousness and creator of the universe."
Do you have any evidence that would support the existence of the object in this man made claim?

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@Fallaneze
Who or what claims the existence of gods.
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@WyseGui
Take some medication any time you find yourself agreeing with witchypoo.
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@Yassine
On the other hand, as established, a noncontingent Necessary & Singular & Transcendent & Absolute being exists
This is just another unsupportable claim made by men.

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@Yassine
The Quran is a book written by men in which men claim the existence of a god. All gods are the creation of men.
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What does 70 weeks mean?
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@Outplayz
It's a C rate movie as a finite being and i can put up with it bc there is death at the end of the tunnel.
But you don't believe in death.

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@PGA2.0
I truly believe any innocent life, such as an infant, will be with God in heaven for the reason that Jesus said,
Thus making abortion the greatest gift god could give.

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@ResurgetExFavilla
RESPECT.Something wingnuts know nothing about.
Thanks for your help.
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