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@Mopac
Isn't it strange that socialism ie a belief in equality of all, care for others, respect for your fellow man is allegedly what your god taught, but you hate that.
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@Mopac
The waterslide exists. You are telling the child from atop a cliff with a hundred foot sheer drop that it's a waterslide.
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@Mopac
The bible is just a collection of lies, I agree
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@PGA2.0
26 And after the threescore and two weeks
Get your bible quotes right, lying is a sin.
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@PGA2.0
an abundance of your evidence for proof.
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@wicked
Be brave and insane and believe in every god ever invented, that'll learn 'em.
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@PGA2.0
Is it reasonable to believe the Bible is the Word of God = Yes!
Since it's your claim that god did not say let there be light what do you contend he did say? The word of god is lies, how does that work?
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@witchypoo
Deluded beyond belief. Go away stupid.
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@Mopac
Common sense time, who is the schismatic?
Who was excommunicated? Not the Catholics, the Orthodox.
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@pollywally
The only backward country whose residents hate atheists is the one where you live, because you are the most uneducated country in the first world.
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Ooh bacon....................drool
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@PGA2.0
Because I'm telling you that your beliefs are erroneous and I have given you an abundance of your evidence for proof.
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@Mopac
You have already admitted that Hey Micky was excommunicated, which by definition made the church he led heretical. What history do you have that refutes that conclusion?
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@PGA2.0
And I always overlook this one. Whatever happened to the flood Daniel claimed would finish it all?
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@Mopac
So the church was then lead by an excommunicated heretic and was no longer christian.
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@Mopac
Hey Mickey and the orthodox church were excommunicated by the Catholic church in 1054, that is historical fact.
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@PGA2.0
Supplying three passages unrelated to the alleged prophesy of Daniel is supposed to convince who of what and there is no mention of 490,000yrs. Please try very hard to stick to the subject at hand.
24 Seventy weeks are decreed upon thy people and upon thy holy city, [j]to finish [k]transgression, and [l]to make an end of sins, and to [m]make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up vision and [n]prophecy, and to anoint [o]the most holy. 25 Know therefore and discern, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto [p]the anointed one, the prince, shall be [q]seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: it shall be built again, with street and moat, even in troublous times. 26 And after the threescore and two weeks shall the anointed one be cut off, and [r]shall have nothing: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and even unto the end shall be war; desolations are determined. 27 And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the [s]oblation to cease; and [t]upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate.
BTW your god is quite good at looking after white middle class Americans like you, as you've claimed,but he is seriously lacking when it comes to starving children it's just like he doesn't give a fuck or he doesn't exist.
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@PGA2.0
Yes you said that the word sevens can be substituted for the word weeks meaning that 70 weeks = 70 sevens and still equals a year and a half. You then change weeks to years which are never mentioned, you have created your own alleged prophesy and even that doesn't work. There is nothing logical about concocting your own prophesy out of thin air and then claiming that it means the original prophesy is fulfilled it's simply dishonest and dishonesty is the hallmark of of your beliefs and I've been proving that for years.
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@PGA2.0
You mean 490 days, well done you. No matter what lie you tell, the alleged prophesy says 70 weeks and therefore is a failed "prophesy"A week is SEVEN days. Thus seventy times (one week) seven.
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@PGA2.0
I don't argue about your invisible friend, I point out how ridiculous your beliefs are and why. You have an alleged prophesy that uses weeks as a time frame and you claim that if you change weeks to years and then multiply that by another factor then the prophesy is fulfilled and you are completely unaware that you are no longer discussing your alleged prophesy, you are discussing a fiction of your own creation.
Are the dinosaurs already in heaven?
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@Mopac
Did the orthodox church get excommunicated?
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@PGA2.0
Oh Pascal you are just so frightened, I'm not because when I die your fairy tales will remain just that, fairy tales.
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@Analgesic.Spectre
We're designed? That's a new one.
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@PGA2.0
Not my imagination, reality. Everything in your book is the product of the IPSS.
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@Tradesecret
How do you know that's what he meant? Your opinion is now the word of your god, wow you are important.
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@PGA2.0
Daniel 9:24 (NIV)
24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness,to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.
Is still seventy weeks, a year and a half.
(24) Seventy septets [of years] have been decreed on your people and the city of your Sanctuary [for you] to make an end of transgression, to atone for sin and to wipe away iniquity, to bring about universal justice, to confirm the visions and the prophets and to anoint the Most Holy Place.
24Seventy weeks [of years] have been decreed upon your people and upon the city of your Sanctuary to terminate the transgression and to end sin, and to expiate iniquity, and to bring eternal righteousness, and to seal up vision and prophet, and to anoint the Holy of Holies.
No years are mentioned in the prophesy and so it is a failed prophesy.
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@PGA2.0
Here is what the failed prophesy actually says:“Seventy ‘sevens’ meaninglessSeventy septets [of years] No mention of yearsSeventy weeks [of years]No mention of yearsComplete failure.
Seventy weeks
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@PGA2.0
What you mean is the IPSS who created the bible and they are certainly not absolute nor objective, so you don't have such a base either. Your base is because you want to believe whatever you believe, totally subjective and absolutely not objective.
(Ignorant, primitive superstitious savages)
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@Tradesecret
there is not one shred of evidence that once we die - that is it. All death proves is that the human body decays. It does not show us or help us understand what happens to the consciousness.
There is 3.5 billion years of evidence that death is the end, ALL of the evidence is that death is the end. Everything dies and consciousness is a function of a living brain, at death all bodily functions cease you have absolutely no evidence to contradict that. Consciousness is a bodily function.
That is the mystery.
You want it to be a mystery because you lack the courage to confront your death, it's OK there's no need to be frightened you won't even know that you're dead.
and that has not been explained - although many theories and ideas have evolved for want of a better word. Jesus did rise from the dead- but people such as yourself ignore that evidence - which demonstrates to me that you are not interested in truth - but more want to go with your indoctrination. Who after all told you that dead people don't rise?
There is no evidence concerning this mythical Jesus character and people don't come back from the dead, that is the truth, fairy tales are not truth as is proven by 200,000yrs of human existence. That's reality and that knowledge is availability to everyone, even you.
Experience? How many ACTUAL dead people have you really seen? If the number is more than zero you would certainly be unique in the West. And unless you are a doctor, a police officer, or work in a morgue or a nursing home, the strict number of dead people you have seen will be less than five. Hence, your conclusion on the matter is clearly guesswork at best - or you believe your infallible textbooks.
Wow does that rouge fish smell a bit to you, a paragraph of meaningless drivel yes I've seen dead bodies. Anybody with the capacity to think doesn't need a textbook to know that every creature to have ever existed on this planet has died sans those currently alive. Not really guesswork it's knowledge available to anyone. You haven't told me yet who I have been indoctrinated by, man up. Godism requires indoctrination, independent thinking never needs it as an atheist I'm an independent thinker where as you lack the capacity to be so.
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@Tradesecret
It's based on 3.5 billion years of experience. We evolved on this planet just like your stories of an afterlife did to pacify your fear of death, you know the end of the life that evolved here. Please inform me by whom I was indoctrinated, that will be fun.
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@Tradesecret
because we all know it is not about us.
Humans cannot imagine things from a divine perspective because they are not divine
Ah come again. You just can't help contradicting yourself.
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@Tradesecret
A christian who calls himself a christian is indistinguishable from a christian who calls himself a christian. One christian worships Jesus the other christian doesn't worship Jesus. You have different gods in the one religion, that doesn't sound very unified.
You don't get to determine who or what is a christian otherwise that non Jesus worshiping christian gets to determine whether you are a christian or not.
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@Mopac
All Gods are the creation of humans, it's ridiculous to believe in them even if you name them the purple reality.
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@crossed
And the school only needs short buses, good for you.
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@Tradesecret
Christian "A" says Jesus is God.
Christian "B" says Jesus is not God.
Christian "A" worships Jesus.
Christian "B" doesn't worship Jesus
Christian unity according to Trady. bwuahahahahahahah
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The aggression came from little drummer boy. The young man showed courageous self restraint, at his age I would have dropped the silly old fart and broken his drum.
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In order that the petulant child allegedly running the country gets his own way he will punish 2 million Americans, what a pathetic snotty nose he is.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
You people pay $20,000 for a procedure that in a developed country costs $2,000. Yeehaw
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@PGA2.0
You've never given an answer, you have always run away.
How about you answer.
Tell us what your absolute and objective standards are.
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@PGA2.0
There are no 70yrs mentioned in the prophesy, it mentions 70 weeks and is therefore a failed prophesy. There is no Leviticus mentioned in the prophesy. Once again here is the prophesy:Even Jewish sites recognize the 70 years as 70X7=490 years
24 Seventy weeks are decreed upon thy people and upon thy holy city, [j]to finish [k]transgression, and [l]to make an end of sins, and to [m]make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up vision and [n]prophecy, and to anoint [o]the most holy. 25 Know therefore and discern, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto [p]the anointed one, the prince, shall be [q]seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: it shall be built again, with street and moat, even in troublous times. 26 And after the threescore and two weeks shall the anointed one be cut off, and [r]shall have nothing: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and even unto the end shall be war; desolations are determined. 27 And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the [s]oblation to cease; and [t]upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate.
If you need to change anything about that then you prove the prophesy false.
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@PGA2.0
God looks after the middle class white Amercan but does fuck all for the starving black babies in the Sudan. Good Gody.
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@Tradesecret
Just like it was before you were born, remember how awful that was? No? That's because you didn't exist, just like when you die you won't exist to be afraid of the dark. The fear you people are indoctrinated with is pathetic.And if there is no god - then you get death - an endless dismal darkness - with no escape - nothingness - no one remembering you.
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@PGA2.0
Tell us what your absolute and objective standards are.
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@Paul
We eat babies we don't hate them, now you've made me drool.
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@Mopac
I would say that you have a superstitious understanding of The Ultimate Reality
Adding an adjective to the word reality is redundant, the combination becomes meaningless.
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@polly wally
Belief without proof is godism, bad luck witchy.
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