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@Dr.Franklin
I think im giving context i provide sources and reasons are you getting angry because it proves you wrong? dude i alredy addressed disproportianate crime levels!!!this is what i saidtotally wrong, crime only comes from the lack of fathers in the homes and there is no conspiracy to defund black education,etc
Your totally wrong my guy. https://www.newsweek.com/absent-black-fathers-myth-racism-1509085 the study that showed this used unmarried as the definition of single. Its not a conspiracy do some research for about 2 seconds https://tcf.org/content/about-tcf/tcf-study-finds-u-s-schools-underfunded-nearly-150-billion-annually/?agreed=1
corporations don't care that much they just want to appeal to an audience its like pride month thing.nope, they clearly do care and push it
Ok buddy also even if this was true the system still exists.
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@Wylted
How is it systematic racism that blacks deal drugs on street corners and are easier to prosecute than whites doing itnin their mother's basement behind closed doors?
Are you joking? i cant tell. thats not an argument at all wtf.
There is more car jackings in black areas. Studies have shown more frequent police stops, help reduce car hackings.Knowing this, police will make more stops in areas with lots of car jackings. To make sure they are not being unfair to the communities they make more frequent stops in, they make up for it by issuing far less warnings and giving less tickets.They could ticket the same rate of stops, but choose not to, in order to be fair.
But WHY are there more car jackings? and as i said earlier 61-80% of black overrepresentation in prisons can be explained by higher black crime rates, with the unexplained portion largely attributable to racial bias. WHY do black people commit more crime????? is it cause they are black?
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@Nyxified
With the amount of money he does have he could end world hunger twice a year
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seems to me the us isn't really meritocracy. seems that its mainly based on luck and being born into rich or financially well family.
Bezos makes millions of dollars every day even during sleep. while the people working for him who are the reason he makes any money get paid 15$ an hour. maybe that's me being radical though
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@Aryanman
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@Aryanman
yes you are which proves my point that they are way poorer. you get welfare when you desperately need it
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@Dr.Franklin
clearly when every major corporation was supporting it
corporations don't care that much they just want to appeal to an audience its like pride month thing.
90% of what you said is just random facts with no context, yeah dc arrest rates are proportional but have you ever considered that just maybe crime rates might also be unproportional, just a thought?
I think im giving context i provide sources and reasons are you getting angry because it proves you wrong? dude i alredy addressed disproportianate crime levels!!!
this is what i said
statistics indicate 61-80% of black overrepresentation in prisons can be explained by higher black crime rates, with the unexplained portion largely attributable to racial bias.Remember - the factors which lead to disproportionate criminality amongst black Americans are also in large part a product of racial bias. Underfunded public programs, redlining, generational poverty, bad schooling, and myriad other factors which influence criminality can also be traced to racial bias
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@Aryanman
The article states
- The black population: At 41.6 percent, blacks were more likely to participate in government assistance programs in an average month.
Not 89% unless i misread though i can see why you got those numbers.
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@Lemming
Maybe they should choose more American sounding names?
I find it stupid that a race would have to lose their culture in order to get more jobs.
If they commit 'crimes more, though, maybe police interaction would be higher?Even if the drug use was the same, increased interaction, would lead to higher arrests.Or the actions 'taken by individuals, during their interactions with police.
Another factor that plays into them getting arrested more is police disproportionately placed in black areas that and implicit plus some have external bias.
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@Lemming
Its rarely intentional its usually implicit bias meaning they are doing it subconsciously.
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@Dr.Franklin
Lol heres where i found it https://www.vox.com/2015/3/17/8227569/war-on-drugs-racism
plus the idea of "systemic racism against blacks" makes no sense because the system is all for BLM and other movements
The system is all for blm? ok buddy.............. you ignored 90% of what i said
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@Wylted
The Onion is literally satire
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@Fruit_Inspector
@Aryanman
After dong some research i found that 41% of the black population use welfare proving my point they are poorer.
- The black population: At 41.6 percent, blacks were more likely to participate in government assistance programs in an average month.
Fruit_inspector
I assume your trying to trap me so i have to type this out carefully
Yes and no-- not all black people get bad education but i would assume that yes since they get worse education they might not be as good in these skills this doesn't make any less intelligent or any more stupider; But then again not all black people are poor. Like barrack obama. If a black person does make it through school and goes to college with sufficient education then they pass college; try to sign up for a job there is still a lower chance of them getting accepted
If they have a black sounding name.
A study showed that minorities who "whiten" job resumes get more interviews.
Hopefully I didn't screw anything up so you can trap me
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@Aryanman
Where did you find that 92% of them get welfare? even if that's true the fact remains that they are less likely to get a good education. I'm aware there isn't a justification they should still be punished but if want to stop the higher crime rate we need to fix the poor low funded areas.
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@Aryanman
Im not much educated on anarchy but why do you hate them?
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@Aryanman
that and i want to see everyones opinions on the topic
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@Fruit_Inspector
depends on what your talking about------ for drug crimes crime rates are relatively the same
For crime in general black people are more likely to commit more crime do to underfunded areas but also at the same time disproportionately arrested. studies indicate black people are 3.7 times more likely to get pulled over for suspicion of drugs.
Black areas are also disproportionately filled with police.
Studies seem to indicate about 61-80% of black overrepresentation in prisons can be explained by higher black crime rates, with the unexplained portion largely attributable to racial bias.
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@3RU7AL
All kids living in the United States have the right to a free public education. And the Constitution requires that all kids be given equal educational opportunity no matter what their race, ethnic background, religion, or sex, or whether they are rich or poor, citizen or non-citizen.
Black areas have significantly less school funding; school funding greatly determines your success and education.--- https://soeonline.american.edu/blog/school-funding-issues
Photos of capital inmates shown to entry-level criminal justice students for them to evaluate the trustworthiness of the faces.There is a widely cited study conducted in italy where identical resumes were sent to apply for jobs.The only difference was that the attached photo was of a "more attractive" man or woman and the twin resume had an attached photo of an "average" or "unattractive" man or woman (all of roughly the same skin-tone).The results showed that BOTH "attractive" men and "attractive" women have a significantly easier time getting call-backs.Similar studies have been conducted for people standing trial.Conviction rates are measurably higher for "less attractive" individuals.
Are you suggesting that black people are less "attractive"
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@3RU7AL
Throwing money at poor people doesn't have the best track record.
That's not throwing money at them its funding their underfunded areas and schools so they have equal opportunity.
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@3RU7AL
Well first we would need to destroy the stereotype of black people being "thugs". i would suggest putting more funding into their neighborhoods as low funding is one of the primary reasons that they have a higher rate of crime. but there is probably a way better solution im not aware.
Also this forum isn't about how we should fix its about if it exists.
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Poor grades do not mean that you are “not smart”, and for similar reasons, having a high IQ does not mean that you “are smart”. Being smart can assist you in getting good grades, but it’s not as simple as that.
Your grades do not reflect your intelligence.
You can be the most intelligent person in the world and still fail a test.
Furthermore emotion plays a very big role in how you do on tests or exams.
If you are depressed or someone you know died you are probably going to get a worse grade this doesn't make you stupid.
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@Lemming
IQ tests are pointless and dumb and dont really determine how intelligent you are https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2250681/IQ-tests-meaningless-simplistic-claim-researchers.html#:~:text=After%20conducting%20the%20largest%20ever,is%20actually%20rather%20'meaningless'.&text=Scientists%20from%20Canada's%20Western%20University,while%20they%20undertook%20the%20tests.
Also if a person from a another country or his or her second language is english they would probably score lower which doesn't mean they are dumber.
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I will provide my usual argument
Systemic racism definition---"Institutional racism, also known as systemic racism, is a form of racism that is embedded through laws and regulations within society or an organization. It can lead to such issues as discrimination in criminal justice, employment, housing, health care, political power, and education, among other issues." First off statistics indicate 61-80% of black overrepresentation in prisons can be explained by higher black crime rates, with the unexplained portion largely attributable to racial bias.
Remember - the factors which lead to disproportionate criminality amongst black Americans are also in large part a product of racial bias. Underfunded public programs, redlining, generational poverty, bad schooling, and myriad other factors which influence criminality can also be traced to racial bias.----https://www.sentencingproject.org/wp-
Extensive document on racial biases in our criminal justice system---https://www.sentencingproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Black-Lives-Matter.pdf
NOW onto the topic of biases in stops searches and arrests
While White & Black Americans admit to using and selling illicit drugs at similar rates, Black Americans are VASTLY more likely to go to prison for a drug offense.
In 2002, Black Americans were incarcerated for drug offenses at TEN TIMES the rate of White Americans.
Today, Blacks are 3.7x as likely to be arrested for a marijuana offense as Whites, despite similar usage.
97% of “large-population counties” have racial biases in their drug offense incarceration.
Militarization fails to enhance police safety or reduce crime but may harm police reputation
Police militarization does not lead to a decrease in crimes committed or officer injuries, may actually increase both.
Police militarization (including the adoption of SWAT teams) decreases public trust in police, which may contribute to increases in crime.
Militarized police are disproportionately deployed in African American communities, even when accounting for crime rates.
This ACLU report reviews 5 months’ of data from DC police stops & searches by race and outcome.
The black population of DC is 25% greater than the white population, but black people were 410% more likely to be stopped by the police than white people
This disparity increases to 1465% for stops which led to no warning, ticket or arrest and 3695% for searches which led to no warning, ticket or arrest.
This data indicates the disproportionate stopping and searching of blacks in the DC area extended massively beyond any disproportionate rate of criminality.
Between 2011 and 2015, black drivers in Nashville’s Davidson County were pulled over at a rate of 1,122 stops per 1,000 drivers — so on average, more than once per black driver.
Black drivers were also searched at twice the rate of white drivers, though — as in other jurisdictions — searches of white drivers were more likely to turn up contraband.
Racial Disparity in Federal Criminal Sentences ---- Examination of federal data indicates Black Americans spend about 10% more time in prison when compared to comparable Whites who commit the same crimes.
Additionally, Black arrestees are 75% more likely to be charged with a crime carrying a mandatory minimum sentence.
Prosecutors contribute massively to this undeniable racial bias.
Government aggregate of data on plea and charge bargaining.
“Studies that assess the effects of race find that blacks are less likely to receive a reduced charge compared with whites.”
“Studies have generally found a relationship between race and whether or not a defendant receives a reduced charge.”
“The majority of research on race and sentencing outcomes shows that blacks are less likely than whites to receive reduced pleas.“
In short, collected data strongly indicates a racial bias against blacks with regards to sentencing and plea bargains.
Implicit Bias-----Photos of capital inmates shown to entry-level criminal justice students for them to evaluate the trustworthiness of the faces.
Students rated pictures of light-skinned inmates as more trustworthy when they preceded pictures of dark-skinned inmates.
Most study participants (79.9%) were white, but the study predicted that this wasn’t a major factor - “When controlling for race, no statistically significant result was found. This suggests that each race, White and non-White, were consistent in their rating outcomes. Prior research has found similar results, where Whites and light-skinned Blacks are likely to share similar attitudes towards darker-skinned Blacks”
Black Boys Viewed as Older, Less Innocent Than Whites, Research Finds
Students and police officers participated in tests to determine levels of racial bias and perception of innocence.
Black boys as young as 10 are more likely to be considered criminal or untrustworthy, and more likely to face police violence.
Police officers were tested on dehumanization of blacks by comparing people of different races to animal groups. Police who engaged in higher levels of dehumanization were more likely to use violence against black children.
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Dude you clearly have no idea what your talking about.
CRT has evidence to back up their claims for example "why are black people more likely to end up in poor neighborhood"
Because of slavery and segregation. Slavery and segregation ended but the effects of it still last. If you shoot someones leg your going to win the race 10 years later your still probably going to win it has lasting effects.
Yes white privilege exists if you are white your chances of getting pulled over without reason are significantly lower. I am white my chances of getting pulled over are significantly lower which is a fact if you would like the study ask. you clearly have done little research. again how about you READ A BOOK. white privilege doesn't make you a racist. you really need to look into it more.
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lol i like how almost every conservative frames critical race theory as "all white people are bad and everything is racist" How about you go read a book by an actual critical race theorist instead of sticking on to robin diangelo who isn't a critical race theorist just a stupid advocate of it.
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how is that? there are countless studies that say otherwise. or you can use the single one that does say it creates unemployment. The seattle one i presume?
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I would know myself as i am gay but im assuming you need evidence.
https://theconversation.com/stop-calling-it-a-choice-biological-factors-drive-homosexuality-122764 it provides sources and please refrain from mentioning it straying from "gods path" or it is a "sin".
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@ILikePie5
But is there like a website you go to play it in or do you use the forum chat?
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@oromagi
theres people who want to be allowed to bring semi auto assault guns to colleges.-- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/college-graduate-wears-gun-holster-with-ar-10-in-her-graduation-photos/
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@Theweakeredge
Im not very educated on the topic but there would still be the problem of illegally obtaining guns.
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@sadolite
Watch this video i'm to tired to make an argument. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6HFdSCDq48 Skip to the part where he talks about america being a democracy.
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@Lemming
Did Not rebut anything, started ranting on how democrats are bad in his opinion; america is a democratic republic https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/yes-constitution-democracy/616949/
most wikis on wikipedia include sources but I don't know if the one he's using does.
Trump knew about covid and was warned long before it became big. He himself refused to wear a mask and got covid. he also suggested putting disinfectant in your body https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests-injection-disinfectant-beat-coronavirus-clean-lungs-n1191216
Obama had made a plan specifically for a virus outbreak trump didnt do anything. trump said himself he slowed down testing to make the numbers look better. Biden took office and orders more vaccines resulting in 60% of the us fully or partially vaccinated.
Insurrection definition--a violent uprising against an authority or government.
That's exactly what happened on january, 6th.
defunding the police is putting funds towards more important things. right now police fund is 143.5 billion dollars.
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@sadolite
you have no argument; different countries work governments differently again the soviet union and china were both communist; but they werent the same.
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Clearly the man on this video is sus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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@Lemming
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"In my eyes, it's a copout in America, to tell government, infringe my rights, take my money and structure the country as 'you see fit."
Its not infringing anyone's rights its just giving everyone an opportunity.
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@Lemming
If we are fixing the majority of poor areas with low school funds where mainly black people live that's my definition of reparations. That would also benefit all poor people. But yea i guess your right
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@Vader
Most businesses have enough to pay 15$ an hour but its inevitable that some would fall.
and some might even get a boost
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Conservatives use her to say crt is racist to white people and makes people hate america
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