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Whatwas Mohammud's Dispute With The Jews Around Him ?
‘’ Mohammadclaims that Islamic Torah and Gospels were already there with him at his time -Mohammad claims that Islamic Torah and Gospels were there with him confirminghis very exact message. ‘’
Yet we see the Muslims of his day running around frantically, in a frenziedreverence just to go about scratching and etching upon stones, bark, wood, andanimal skins, just to etch and scrawl something down that was already writtenin the Torah and Gospels.
All they had to do was go to a village or a city just a few miles away and makea copy and translate the scriptures. Yet, Islam goes through this entireprocess - of "" Re - Processing "" all of this informationthrough another spiritual entity called " Gee - briel “ an angel “ andMohammud is making the claim that all of this information was already writtendown and with them in the very same exact land where they lived. inTorah and Gospels -
as an already existing written book and an existing faith that was vindicatingIslam
MOAHMMAUD HAD THE TORAH AND GOSPELS WITH HIM - all around him in thevery land where he lived
and yet, his followers go around scrawling and scratching and etching onleaves, bark, wood and sticks, and rocks and skins, something that was alreadysupposed to be in the same area where they lived. In The Torah and Gospels. Howis this something revelatory or prophetic as "" revelations,"" to repeat stories and passages of a book that already supposedlyalready exists and is well known and spread to hundreds of thousands or people- just a few miles away from Mohammud's very doorstep ?
Surah 94: “ So, (O prophet,) EVEN IF YOU ARE IN DOUBT about what We have sentdown to you, ASK THOSE WHO READ THE BOOK (revealed) before you. Surely, truthhas come to you from your Lord, so NEVER BE AMONG THOSE who are suspicious.”
Here, the Quran is commanding people to believe in the Torah and Gospels andtake these books as God's word and as truth, and to not be among those - whoare suspicious…..
Yet, all the Muslims had to do was simply take a short journey and walk to anearby city or ask among the passing caravans for a copy of the scriptures, yetthey don’t do that….
instead they use Mohammad to contact some unknown, unseen spiritual identity -to tell them what a book says that already exists all around them - just a fewmiles from their doorstep.
Mohammad claims to be going about reciting the Torah and Gospels and throughouthis whole life, Muslims are depicted as to clinging to every single last word
Mohammud is repeatedly continually demanding ! - - LOOK - CHECK - look CONFIRM- in the Torah and Gospels - this is my very message - my message is the sameexact message that is also confirmed in the Torah and Gospels. -
HOW DOES THIS PROCESS MAKE SOMEONE A PROPHET - with revelation
- he is not even claiming or demonstrating to be prophesying and foretellingand revealing something that is unknown and showing people somethingthat is unknown and needs to be revealed...... Mohammud's claim and very words in the Qurancontinually repeat the same message saying that " my very Islamicmessage - my message, is the same exact message that is alsoconfirmed in the Torah and Gospels. "
Is this process truly confirming something as prophecy and revelation and truthby taking the contents from one book that is available for everyone and thentranslating and copying them into another language. ?
In conclusion - I ask Muslims one question
what was it about the faith and belief system of the Jews where Mohammudlived that was in disobedience and against the core teachings of theQuran ?
I submit that there is not a single piece of any evidence that demonstratesthat the Jews where Mohammud lived were in conflict nor disagreement with thecore teachings of the Quran. in fact the Jews did not reject Mohammud’s corebasic message about God’s laws, the jews did not disagree with Mohammudabout the oneness of God =
the jews did not disagree with anything regarding the moral code of God and hislaws about idols and sin and the commandments of God.
so - what was Mohammud’s big problem with the jews ?
what was Mohammud upset with the jews about concerning their faith ?
the jews around Mohammud believed that God was one single God - thejews did not worship idols and other God’ s – in fact the jews aroundMohammud - they rejected that jesus was the son of God, thejews accepted every single last commandment that Mohammud concluded about basiccritical laws of God
Mohammud mentions nothing about moral or law disagreements that he had with thejews,
the jews around Mohammud - are not shown to have disagreed with Mohammuds moralcode - every single commandment and every single critical core and basic lawand ordinance of God that Mohammud eventually decided - the jews obeyed andbelieved.
Yet - Mohammud - demands that the jews are the worst creatures that haveever existed on the planet.
Can Muslims can produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammuddisobeyed the quran - or - a single example - where that the jews aroundMohammud failed to accept the laws of God or failed to believe and accept inthe moral code of every single last thing in the quran.
Can Muslims produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammuddisobeyed the quran
the Jews did not disagree with Mohammed upon basic principles regarding idols,adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, Sabbath, the oneness of God, the moralobligations of a faith.
in Fact - The Jews held to even a muchstricter law and teaching about not divorcing your wife for no just cause orreason
the jews accepted every single last core and basic commandment that Mohammudconcluded about basic critical laws of God - Mohammud mentions nothingabout moral or law disagreements that he had with the jews. The jews aroundMohammud - are not shown to have disagreed with Mohammuds moral code - everysingle commandment and every single critical core and basic law and ordinanceof God that Mohammud eventually decided - the jews obeyed and believed.
Yet, Mohammud - demands that the jews are the worst creatures that have everexisted on the planet.
Can Muslims can produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammuddisobeyed the quran - or - a single example - where that the jews aroundMohammud failed to accept the laws of God within the Quran or failed to believeand accept in the core principles of moral code of everysingle last thing in the quran.
Can Muslims produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammuddisobeyed the quran ?
the Jews did not disagree with Mohammed upon basic principles regarding idols,adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, Sabbath, the oneness of God, the moralobligations of a faith
was Mohamud'sdispute with the Jews - because the Jews did not buy and sellslaves and participate in the slave trade ?
was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews - because the Jews did not capture womenand enslave them and and have sexual intercourse with these slaves without acondition of mutual love and and full agreement of marriage ?
was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews because - the Jews did not practicetemporary short term " MUTTAH " marriages just for a few hours ordays of sexual gratification ?
was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews - because the Jews did not teach thatdivorce for any reason was justified in the eyes of God ?
was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews - because the Jews did not beat theirwives when their wives disobeyed their husbands sexual demands and ?
Quran 4:34) for those women on whose part ye fear rebellion, admonish them andbanish them to beds apart, (and last) beat them. Then, if they obey you, seeknot a way against them.
the Jews did not disagree with Mohammed upon basic principles regarding idols,adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, Sabbath, the oneness of God, the moralobligations of ones faith
but yet Mohammud demands that the Jews are considered the most horrible andworst of all creatures upon the earth.
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REMEMBER
Deu 24:7 If a man be found stealing any of his brethren of the children of Israel, and maketh merchandise of him, or selleth him; then that thief SHALE DIE - and thou shalt put evil away from among you.
Exo 23:9 Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Lev 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex / mistreat him.
:34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself;
35 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment, in meteyard, in weight, or in measure.
Lev 19:9 And when ye reap the harvest of your land - 10 ....... thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger:
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Lev 25 not about slavery
25 : from the original manuscripts
ועבדך Your male workers - ואמתך your female workers - אשׁר whom - יהיו־לך are - מאת themselves - הגוים foreigners heathens -
אשׁר whom - סביבתיכם are from around you - מהם them - תקנו you will buy - עבד male worker - ואמה׃ and female worker
Meaning from the manuscripts
: 25 Your male workers your female workers whom are themselves foreigners / heathens whom are from around you,, them you will buy male worker and female worker
Lev 25 is specifically about - debt forgiveness ordinance -
“ YEAR OF JUBILEE “ - every 7 years, and dealing with the homeless and poor and those in debt. - The “ YEAR OF JUBILEE “ was a - debt forgiveness ordinance -that occurred - every seven years. As an act of Kindness - Privileges Benefits - designated only for Fellow Israeli ; Israeli citizens - Jews..... The context of the passage is referring specifically Directly to the “ YEAR OF JUBILEE “ and dealing with the homeless and poor and those in debt. - Redeeming the Poor whom are indebted.
THE PASSAGE IS NOT ABOUT “ THE CAPTURE “ AND ROUNDING UP OF HEATHENS AND STRANGERS AND ENSLAVING THEM.
CONTEXT
Lev 25:35 And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.
Meaning = every 7 years, poor Israeli citizens who had fallen into debt were to be completely forgiven of their unbearable debts - and in most cases, property they had lost would be returned to them.
:36 Take thou no usury “ do not be lending money “ to him, or increase his debt. - that thy brother may live with thee.
:37 Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury - lending money , nor lend him thy victuals / food / provisions - for increase.
:39 And if thy brother that dwelleth by thee be waxen poor, and be sold unto thee; thou shalt not compel him to serve as a bondservant:
Lev 25:40 But as an hired servant, and as a sojourner, he shall be with thee, and shall serve thee unto the year of jubile:
:41 And then shall he depart from thee, both he and his children with him, and shall return unto his own family, and unto the possession of his fathers shall he return.
:42 For they are my servants, which I brought forth out of the land of Egypt: they shall not be sold as bondmen.
:43 Thou shalt not rule over him with rigour; but shalt fear thy God.
BUT FOR NON - Israeli citizens, strangers -
strangers in debt,
strangers whom are homeless,
strangers whom have occurred loss of property
strangers whom are poor and have financial loss
the NON ISRAELI CITIZENS WORKERS who are working to pay off these debts
:44 the NON ISRAELI CITIZENS WORKERS bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
THE PASSAGE - is explaining that this privilege of debt forgiveness regarding the - “ YEAR OF JUBILEE “ - every 7 years
and specifically in dealing with the homeless and poor and those in debt. - The “ YEAR OF JUBILEE “ was a - debt forgiveness ordinance -that occurred - every seven years.
:45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
:46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever:
but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.
:47 And if a sojourner or stranger wax rich by thee, and thy brother that dwelleth by him wax poor, and sell himself unto the stranger or sojourner by thee, or to the stock of the stranger's family:
:48 After that he is sold he may be redeemed again; one of his brethren may redeem him:
53 And as a yearly hired servant shall he be with him: and the other shall not rule with rigour over him in thy sight.
:54 And if he be not redeemed in these years, then he shall go out in the year of jubile, both he, and his children with him.
The reality is that those in debt worked for others to pay off their debts, after the indebted or obligated worker was finished with a job performed, their boss or caretaker would contract them out to someone else who would pay for the services.
BUT - every 7 years the “ YEAR OF JUBILEE “ - every 7 years - the homeless and poor and those in debt received complete and fully automatic debt forgiveness - every seven years, As an act of Kindness - Privileges Benefits - designated only for Fellow Israeli ; Israeli citizens - Jews
The context of the passage is referring specifically Directly to the YEAR OF JUBILEE “ and dealing with the homeless and poor and those in debt. - Redeeming the Hebrew Citizens whom were Poor whom were indebted.
THE PASSAGE IS NOT ABOUT - the foreigners (( NON CITIZENS )))) HEATHENS or STRANGERS - do not have this privilege.
NON CITIZENS - “ foreigners “ would forever remain as workers,, bond servants - whom when “ if “ debt occurred, they fell into debt
their property and inheritance would not be returned to them
their debts and losses could be transferred
debts and losses could be re assigned
debts and losses could be relocated
to another, who will put them to work - that they finish repaying their debts.
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You are right,
the Trinitarian Roman Catholic and Protestant societies have used their mistranslated translations of the Bible to justify their evil slavery.
However, in the Bible the commandment is clear - the Hebrews were commandment to NOT enslave anyone.
in FACT - the death penalty was to be given to any Hebrew capturing another Hebrew and selling them to a slave trader. There were indentured $ervants who owed debts, there were the homeless and poor who worked as $ervants or workers in a family unit such as Abraham's family.
But the Bible does not promote slavery " BONDAGE " nor rounding up innocent people and forcing them into slavery.
The Roman Catholic Church enslaved the Jews and other various Non Catholics, whom the Church considered as " heretics " forcing them into servanthood and working situations where they would never move up in society. Catholic countries such as Portugal, England and other Catholic countries also ran the slave trade of Africans.
the protestants, who were former Catholics and also entrenched, deep -rooted and invested in the African Slave Trade also mistranslated and perverted their Bible in the 1600s
English translations were specifically coded and worded - to promote slavery - as early as the 1600s ......
But when we go to the manuscripts we find that there are mistranslations and deliberate changes - the Hebrews were commanded to not practice bondage and slavery, .......... Even an AUTOMATIC DEATH PENALITY was given to Hebrews who participated in the slave trade .
Can you take the information that you claim is available and present a single passage of the Bible that is promoting enslaving innocent persons ??
or will these misrepresented and mistranslated passages you claim exist simply present a working class of indebted free workers / working for others, to pay their debts and also the poor and homeless living within someone else's property and home, as they perform daily duties for a good healthy living.
please produce the evidence.
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it is shameful what has been done in the name of God - but the small minority who truly follow God do not condone or promote committing evil.
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God knows how jacked up the world is and how easily it is to fall into the system of heading down a road of self destruction.
he allows the downfall to continue because it is the choice that humans make, free will " but he offers opportunity for people to connect to his Spirit Of The Holy, to be reborn in him and to obtain eternal life
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Can we be reminded that the Bible does not promote pedophilia
the millions of people who read the Bible are not promoters of pedophilia - the bible fortifies the idea of responsibility - a very, very rigorous mode of responsibility and adherence to living in a marriage system that is catered to responsible adults conducting themselves in cleanliness faithfulness, honestly and love with actions of goodness and beneficial actions toward your spouse.
pedophilia was never something that was a part of this marriage system and - pedophilia could even become a normality or condoned - it just was not a part of the marriage system of the Bible.
there was no need to even mention it because it could never enter into the marriage system of the Bible - if followed correctly.
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I have found that the Trinitarian Bible Translations are filled with much error, this error is a deliberate attempt to insert the Trinity doctrine.
The Trinitarian Translations do not express or describe a Jesus existing " previously " as only a mere prophetic promise - to come in the future.
look at this mistranslation -
Act 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but NOW commandeth all men every where to repent:
if - The Old Testament believers were worshiping the Godhead / trinity in a manner that was incorrect and false, how then did Jesus exist " previously " as only prophetic promise ?
The Translation is claiming that God had allowed people in the Old Testament to incorrectly worship and disregard the true worship and teaching that - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit existed in three persons in GODHEAD / TRINITY
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but NOW commandeth - all men - every where to repent: - repent for incorrectly worshiping the Godhead / trinity .
How could someone mistakenly or falsely or disobediently worship and rebel against something that did not exist yet and never was revealed to them nor heard of ?
My question is simply this- - - WHY IS YAHASHUA CHANGING / ALTERING and MODIFYING and ADJUSTING / MORPHING and LOWERING and DECREASING and REDUCING HIMSELF - WHY IS YAHASHUA becoming empty / void and vacant of existing as EQUALLY God and SUDDENDLY SUDDENLY CHANGING HIMSELF TO BECOME A SERVANT OF GOD
WHY IS YAHASHUA SUDDENLY CHANGED AND ALTERED TO THE POINT THAT HE NO LONGER EXISTS TO BE EQUAL TO GOD. BUT HIMSELF, HE HAS SUDDENLY BECAME EMPTY / changed altered BECOME VOID OF EQUALITY TO GOD
CHANGING INTO SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM THAT WHICH HE PRE EXISTED = CHANGING INTO BECOMING A SERVANT
He is changed and lowered into - THE MORPH OF A SERVANT, RECEIVING IN THE LIKENESS OF MANKIND, HE BECAME.
IF – Yahashua lowered himself - emptied himself - he CHANGED and ALTERED HIMSELF - BECOMING A SERVANT OF GOD
WHY - would he be lowering himself - why would he be ALTERING AND CHANGING HIMSELF TO BE CHANGED INTO A SERVANT OF GOD AND LESSER THAN GOD – changing to becoming a servant and obedient to the father
If this is who and what he already was ?
how is Jesus asking the Father to be returned back to his Fathers glory - the SAME EXACT HE HAD PREVIOUS - glory of being given the highest glory possibly obtained, to be literally of being seated and positioned at / on the right hand side of the throne of the father, - given the highest name, a name above every name in heaven, given authority and power of all heaven and earth
How is this glory - the same glory that Jesus possesses with the father before the earth was created ?
If the only born Son Of God was only a prophetic plan of God. ?
Can Trinitarians clarify this confusion using their translation ? or does the translation originate the source of the confusion
does anyone here know what Act 17:29 says in the original Greek manuscripts. ? ?
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Every Muslim born becomes himself - a new prophet - with new revelations that do not exist in the Quran.
todays Muslims, have received new revelation and prophesy that Allah does not want the Jews living in Israel.
Today, every Muslim is a prophet and revelator who prophecy and reveal that Allah has forbidden Israel to the Jews.
Yet, the Quran says directly and clearly -
that Allah had given Israel to the Jews and that Allah even had sternly commanded the Jews to exterminate all the original inhabitants of Israel and take the land for themselves !
The Quran itself says and - prophecies and reveals prophecy - that Israel belongs to the Jews - - IN FACT THE QURAN DEMANDS THAT ALLAH HIMSELF COMMANDED THE JEWS TO TAKE THE LAND BY FORCE AND TO EXTERMINATE THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF ISRAEL.
And Allah even punished the Jews because they did not want to do this.
But - the Bible never commands the Jews to move in and kill people in order to seize their lands but rather in the Bible the Jews were attacked and terrorized by their neighbors and were fighting a self - defensive war against nations who were attempting to exterminate them.
But - we see today Muslims, all have a new revelation and a new prophecy -
the Quran's message is not complete and Mohammud is not the last and final prophet. There are thousands of additional revelations and prophecies that are needed and that have have been added and compiled, more and more revealing's and prophesying's on top of everything Mohammad provided.
Muslims provide themselves their own revelations in hundreds of thousands of additional hadith with extra added prophecies, additional revelations, they make in thousands of additional Hadith books hundreds of years after Mohammad had died.
thousands of additional Hadith books filled with new revelations and new prophecies - after the Quran has already been given The Quran is not THE FINAL MESSAGE - and Mohammud is not the final prophet - each Muslim is also a prophet unto themselves.
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the Bible does not sanction or condone having marriage and intercourse with a child who is prepubescent - the condoning of this abuse simply does not exist in the Bible, it is not mentioned - probably because it never was a problem wherein the Hebrews would commit this sin to on any scale or degree , the incident of pedophilia simply was so rare and just simply was not mentioned .
the things the Bible mentions regarding sins, were what was a prevalent evil that the Hebrews were tempted to commit.
with the case of the Midianites who were exterminated by the Jews
Num 22:6 - The Midianites joined forces with the Moabites in order to smite " kill " Israel and drive Israel out of the land.
Israel was at W A R with the nations surrounding them - FOR 40 LONG AND BLOODY YEARS, Israel had already been fighting wars and battles with nearly every major superpower around them. AND ISRAEL WAS ATTACKED FIRST - Israel was fighting a defensive war against the Midianites. In - Numbers 31: it explains that - the Midianites had allied themselves and joined with the Moabites AGAINST ISRAEL - to destroy and eliminate the Hebrew people.
Num 22:6 - The Midianites joined forces with the Moabites in order to smite "kill " Israel and drive Israel out of the land.
One can pretend, fantasize or imagine that after the Jews achieved victory - that the captured Midianite virgins were passed around and sold and used as sex slaves - but this is simply fantasy and imagination. The Bible does not condone RAPING WOMEN nor does condone KILLING THE FAMILY OF THE WOMAN outside of generational war. - where the enemy had been attempting to exterminate and kill them firstly.
Every single event in the Bible where VIRGINS were spared and saved - was the consequence of generational war, Israel was defending itself
and killing all of the males of the enemy who had been at war with them for many, many years was necessary to win this war.
The United States killed an estimated 350,000 to 500,000. German civilians bombed by allied strategic bombing.
after 40 years of war Israel's only choice was to survive..
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Gays do not produce or bear children.
The woman's body is designed and specialized and made designed and set up - specifically for the miracle of conception, growth, development, and birth of making a little baby. - REPRODUCTION.
And the gay community ignores the fact that women's bodies are set up and designed differently than a man's body.
Women have never worked the jobs of males and the Gay community knows this fact. The Gay community still demands that they have the right to marry the same seX and have the taX breaks and " privileges " of a Woman and a marriage situation and the special role and rights of women.
women deserve to be treated special because they are very, very special - they are unique and wonderous
There is a taX bracket set to pay women what they deserve for being a woman in a marriage working on savings for a future family and getting the benefit of taX breaks. A Gay man - who is a full grown man - with the capability to work just like a straight man is robbing - stealing and hijacking the rights and privileges and needs of the woman.
By demanding the same taX breaks of a woman. Does not the LGBT community care about the importance of Family, mothers and women.
I honestly know that the LGBT community has hijacked the role of the MOTHER around the world.
ANY PERSON or any LGBT person who does not bear children and have never put their bodies through the wear and tear and deterioration and physical toll on the body that child bearing puts upon a real mother. There can be no comparison.
A mother who has bore a child with her own body and takes the responsibility to raise the child and wants to be a housewife in a household - deserves the eXtra benefits packages, and eXtra taX breaks and credits and the LGBT has tried to literally hijacked the role of a real mother. The LGBT already receives at least a yearly credit of up to $12,970 for every single child adopted - No one is taking away their rights. In 2014 the nonrefundable maximum tax credit (dollar limitation) per child is $13,190.
The credit begins to phase out when modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) exceeds $197,880 and is eliminated when MAGI exceeds $237,880.
If someone adopts three siblings all at once they can can possibly be qualified for well over thirty thousand dollars in refundable adoption tax credits.
this all comes from the taxpers - Liberal Democrat Cities produce millions of abandoned children that the rest of America is paying taxes to support - The LGBTs are not being oppressed. But the governments know that the TRADITIONAL FAMILY is the what makes a country success rate.
And real mothers who are using their own bodies to create children in a family with a stable mother and father. where the Father works and they save and conserve money in society. This FAMILY UNITY is the cheapest and most efficient way to raise a family and creates a stable home life at the same time. The LGBT community takes children that are processed by the government and this is all paid by taxpayers. it is billions of dollars each year and the LGBT people who adopt also get welfare and food stamps.
But they are not functioning as a normal family who have a mother who has born birthed their own children and takes care of them all of their lives.
The money and cost difference is not comparable - as is the stability of a Normal Mother and Father NATURAL family unit. The LGBT community does not take the same role, function and place of the family. They only hijack the idea of a family when they { on average } do not bear their own children as a self made family unit type of economic structure.
The Family is the most stable, economical way to produce and raise children.
Adoption is needed and statistics show that around 13 percent of the population of caring and good LGBT people have adopted children. -
But the LGBT situation is not much different than a GOVERNMENT RUN Foster Care Situation , in that it is highly taXpayer funded.
And they are demanding that They get to be paid and treated and seen as a natural family in the eyes of religion and religious people.
How is this the fault of the religious Christians and Jews who only peacefully promote and believe in a NATURAL family model ?
The religion does not make decisions. The religion only competes " competition " and makes a challenge against The broken homes, The single mothers and single fathers and the LGBT community adoption situation.
And the Religious Communities IDEAS, METHODS and FAMILY STRUCTURE of a Mother and Father - is winning the competition in the ideas of keeping cities, town and whole countries out of debt and making America the best place on earth to live. And keeping the best economy in the History of the Planet.
This may be the battle that some may wish to pit or wage or compare, by comparing and waging, pitting and using the family against the Non-Family, in a battle of ideas and money and competition. But the single mothers and single fathers and the LGBT community truly faces a competition against the family idea. And they are loosing in the economics, wealth and capitalist free market system.
This is called real choice.. and liberal democrat cities are proving this every second
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Many " Feminism leaders " have taught that women have been suppressed, treated unfairly and denied basic human rights, also they have claimed that women have been denied equality under the law - today Feminism sees itself as - fighting for their voices to be heard.
But what is the truth about history ?
Women for the last 6000 yrs,, have not been INVENTING or mass producing weapons ! RIGHT ?
Can You name a single weapon that a woman has invented. Women have been ( for the last 6000 yrs ) NOT capable, or WILLING or even interested in massing an army consisting of (ALL females) Marching, Sailing, Soldiers, Riding and Ramming down her enemies, WHY ?
The bible looks at the Woman’s human nature, sees the reality and accepts that women are gifted and skilled in GIVING advice and skills to go forth as a beautiful mother, [ - ( THE WAY God made her )-} She is skilled, smart, wise. Understanding of her surroundings. Master of her own world, beautiful, special, unexplainably wonderful.
Where a man can never be rated good enough, or free enough to have the privilege to OPT OUT of war - taking on the ENEMIES of darkness that have sought to harm humanity. Where a man can never be rated good enough, capable or free enough to have the privilege to OPT OUT on taking ON THE COLD hours of the day, working 8 - 15 hr days.
A man " HE " is not rated good enough, capable or free or privileged ( significant ) to be ABLE to ...OPT OUT of the duty of working in the boiling sun, breaking down his body, day after day , BREAKING his back in agony. wrinkling his skin from the sun. Bearing the cold. rain. Some. Working in CHEMICALS and toXins and poisions that eat up his body, mind and soul.
For all of his life. HE IS A SLAVE, an animal. Lonely, longing, ready to eXplode and bloom to fill the emotional and physical needs of the women around him. HE NEEDS HELP. / He Needs A Woman. ! - The man is the property / SLAVE of a cruel system wherein he has to get up, normally around 3:30 to 6:00 - and THINK about WHAT must be done for his Family to survive. He has to give his life. Every day. A man " HE " - he man is the PROPERTY / slave of the elements of nature and the environment. he fights, bleeds, takes injury and he is not allowed to NORMALLY run into the house and wait for the local LADY fashion stars and sexies / professional sweetheart crew and the Strip clubs of America, to handle His business.
The man is a slave He is not free. He is on the battle field cutting, crawling, crying, slashing, striping, striking, shooting, damaging, hitting and destroying the enemy.
The men are like a herd of bulls and oXen they pull civilization with the blood, sweat, tears and bone of their bodies, ENSLAVED for eternity, until they are unable to continue. The men live " 15- 20 " YEARS shorter than the average women. ENSLAVED, unworthy, LIKE animals.
Remember that Women are very delicate, much weaker physically and carry the Ability to Become Fertilized, TO Grow another Living Human Being inside her. - Women Have the Ability to Give Birth to this baby and then Women have the Ability to Feed and Nurse it with Nutrition from her own body.
Women have a Monthly, Menstrual Cycle, where their Body will harvest Eggs and Set itself up for Fertilization. Then Shed these Eggs from the body. Women ARE So, So, Much Different from Men. - They are a special, Wonderful, thing.
I think that the Oppression of women has been depending on the level of corruption and Evil and Degeneracy in a society. in the bible, Women are supposed to be HEALTHY clean, healthy, clean and prepared for when they desire to have offspring, the offspring for future generations will be free from " child deformities " - " child born with diseased and sicknesses " - child born with genetic mutation " - free from " a child with diseases and uncurbable medical conditions that are passed down from generation to generation "
Women have never Risen UP as one GROUP, Formed a military force and went and Conquered another nation or another military Power.
before the MODDERN ERA, THERE was no Air CONDITIONING, No Machines and Assembly Lines and MODDERN Tools available for large communities and Groups of WOMEN to go to work.
Women did not want to Be out in the blazing, boiling, Blistering heat, Digging for 8 - 12 hours a Day. Women did not want to Be out in the boiling, Blistering, Hellish hot Nights and days, Bouncing Up and Down on a Horse all day and night with no rest, Delivering messages and mail and supplies.
Women did not want to Be out In all of the Driving jOBS, Driving in the dirty Highways with no Air Conditioning, with the Windows down. Stopping at dirty places, with no Modern Facilities and air Conditioning and quick, hot water.
Women did not want to be working in the fields, and seas and hills, with no Sanitation,...Women did not want to be out packing Heavy wood, all day and night up and down hills and through Brush and thickets. Women did not want to be in the Military Line with a Sword and spear, clashing and butchering the enemy fighting against 300 pound men. Women did not want to spend Weeks and months out in the Cattle Drives, with hardly no opportunity for a BATH. THEIR skin Burning red and blistering and their Brains boiling, as they spend hours, on the edge of Passing out.
Women did not want to be Roofing on a Hot roof. Women did not want to be Working in the Coal Mines all day and night, with Soot and Dirt and Coal and minerals and chemicals eating their brains, eyes and skin,
Women did not want to WORK like a Man....... Women worked as Cooks, Servers, Waiting Tables, NURSING. WOMEN have worked hard........ And they Should never, NEVER < NEVER be expected to ...work these other jOBS.... REMEMBER that THERE was little money available, the Men were eXpected to work themselves to death for Little pay.
Women could never even hope to compete and they did not want to try.
MEN, worked like slaves, Like DOGS and animals.... Taking Care of their Families. Women had it hard too - Taking Care of the Home, With NO MODDERN Technology was a TRUE, Living and Real jOB for women in the WORLD, It Was Very hard work.
The Life eXpecenty o f an average man was 10- 20 years SHORTER than the Average Woman. I jUST think that the Idea that somehow Woman have been mistreated or left out of the workplace, is a bunch of HYPE and Lies.
With the invention of modern Technology and TOOLS that Allow Women to have the ability and desire to work. - Suddenly, we see the women filling the factories.
Suddenly, we see the women Rushing to the City to get " WHAT THEY PRETEND " - is a mans jOB.
With the Inventions and Modern Tools and Machines that were Built, to let the business owners not need to hire so many people.
Why would the Average business want to hire a Woman, when they jUST fired or laid off 20 men and Bought a Machine or tool that does the work of the 20 Men.
I think that Woman have WORKED very, Very hard throughout civilization. WOMEN have had plenty to do. Women have had it hard... REALLY, REALLY Hard.. - Women have Done their Part... they ARE so wonderful and hard working and dedicated...
But so have men. Please... Don’t be deceived by these Television shows, and Politicians and Lesbians and HomoseXuals. Who profit and PRIDE themselves. - GETTING off.. - From. Getting Women Worked up into thinking that there has been this Great Oppression of Woman.
Modern Technology, Modern Machines and TOOLS today, allow women to do the work that they could never do, before the Modern Technology came.
Suddenly, we see the women Rushing to the City to get " WHAT THEY PRETEND " - is a mans jOB.
Women should keep bringing their Great Skills and Great ideas to the modern world. But demonizing MEN, based on lies, is not something that makes the situation better. Yes there are men who discriminate against women or other minorities. But eXagerating the problem, does not make profit or help anything for very long.
I love women. and think they are so special and Precious... Thank You for being a Woman.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
in fact, the Media and Roman Catholic Church has absolutely no concern for the peacefully Jews and Christians who are persecuted in Islamic countries
Muslims around the world have absolutely no concern whatsoever to say anything about it
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@SamStevens
Everyone believes that the Bible has some factual data and even a portion of some truth.
I do understand why that many people do not believe that the God of the Bible eXists, they simply see no evidence that proves anything to them that he exists.
Some people who believe have a blind faith and follow some manner of the Bible regulations in some way or another, others believe that they feel the presence of God literally in their mind and body and see signs and evidences that the God exists.
Many have dreams, visons, prophecy and believe that miracles they see is evidence that this God is truly there.
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@Castin
The Manuscripts say that
The Father of Yahashua was the Holy Spirit, a creative deity who creates all life.
His father was a spirit, the same spirit that conceived him spiritually, forming and creating a body in the womb of a woman and then the spirit conceiving itself.
this same spirit was the very spirit that was his own spiritual identify in him, Yahashua, his very character and own deity, Yahashua came out of God and returns back to God from where he exited out from.
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@Fireball
The only people recorded in the Bible being executed and killed for adultery were those who were actively spreading diseases and death to thousands of people - who were dying by the thousands,, thousands were literally dying in just a few short days
homosexuality were never, ever even once recorded to be killed because of the fact that they were homosexuals - in the Bible. - the Bible simply does not give REAL TIME examples of anyone randomly killing and executing anyone for sexual immorality.
I think this is a good moral example for Christians and Jews to look back upon and pattern their lives to keeping their DNA and family clean and healthy and pure.
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Quran 5 : 21
21. “O my people, enter the Holy Land which God has assigned for you, and do not turn back, lest you return as losers.”
22. They said, “O Moses, there are tyrannical people in it; we will not enter it until they leave it. If they leave it, we will be entering.”
24. They said, “O Moses, we will not enter it, ever, as long as they are in it. So go ahead, you and your Lord, and fight. We are staying right here.”
26. Allah said: 'This land will now be forbidden to them for forty years and they will remain wandering about on the earth. Do not grieve over the condition of these transgressing people.
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neither feminists nor the Islamic system fight wars in a meaningful effort to defend the innocent or righteous nor the oppressed nor the freedom of others.
In fact Islam does not fight for anyone or anything but it's own political and religious interests and gain.
feminism and Islam are a tight union that work together to honk and squawk about the fact that they do not like the God of Abraham, do not like the marriage system of the God of Abraham and do not like marriage law of the God of the Bible.
in fact, they both are offended by the entire Bible, Islam, originating from a pagan Canaanite culture, Islam only seeks to destroy and pervert the origins of the Bible and everything that it is - to reinvent and fantasize a religious system that is molded to their own image.
Every Muslim born becomes himself - a new prophet - with new revelations that do not exist in the Quran.
todays Muslims, have received new
revelation and prophesy that Allah does not want the Jews living in
Israel.
Today, every Muslim is a prophet and revelator who prophecy and reveal that
Allah has forbidden Israel to the Jews.
Yet, the Quran says directly and clearly -
that Allah had given
Israel to the Jews and that
Allah even had sternly commanded the Jews to exterminate all the original
inhabitants of Israel and take the land for themselves !
The Quran itself says and - prophecies and reveals prophecy - that Israel belongs
to the Jews - - IN FACT THE QURAN DEMANDS THAT ALLAH HIMSELF COMMANDED THE JEWS TO TAKE THE LAND BY FORCE AND TO EXTERMINATE THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF ISRAEL.
And Allah even punished the Jews because they did not want to do this.
The Bible never commands the Jews to move in and kill people in order to seize their lands. it is the total opposite of the Quran,
But - we see today Muslims, all have a new revelation and a new prophecy -
the Quran's message is not complete and Mohammud is not the last and final
prophet.
There are thousands of additional revelations
and prophecies that are needed and that have have been added
and compiled, more and more revealing's and prophesying's on top of everything
Mohammad provided.
Muslims provide themselves their own revelations in hundreds
of thousands of additional hadith with extra added prophecies, additional
revelations, they make in thousands of additional Hadith books
hundreds of years after Mohammad had died.
thousands of additional Hadith books filled with new revelations and new
prophecies - after the Quran has already been given
The Quran is not THE FINAL MESSAGE - and Mohammud is not the final prophet -
each Muslim is also a prophet unto themselves.
feminism and Islam are in fact both working together to re - write history- this is very noticeable in the style in which your post is written. Your goal is to appeal to the ideology of femimisticism instead of the facts and scriptures,
Because Muslims and feminists have no scriptures for their faith or claims
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To be considered free, means expressly - exempt (from DEBT obligation or liability ) - Duty Free
before the drug addicted politicians arrived in later history - and began to draft corrupt military forces to steal and rob the citizens of their earnings and hard earned financial assets - there was was a reality that existed, wherein - FOR EXAMPLE " when I whom did not own property, wealth, crops or livestock and had no home - no money - no credit - no property
I would would eventually acquire a certain amount of debt to accommodate my pleasures or and basic needs -
I would then need to get a JOB " becoming a worker / servant " I would be an Indentured servant
I would sign a contract, I would agree to work for a certain number of years or perform agreed tasks in exchange for removing my debts and potentially acquiring financial freedom - all past debts as paid in full - afterwards, I could then begin attempting to start over and try again, to accumulate some wealth, property and create a business of my own, if the environment and demand and economy permitted.
That is why there is a thermology today called DEBT FREE
Today banks have the right to take all of your money, all of your property and your home in some cases and will and put a record against your credit, wherein - lenders know this information about you to determine whether you have the capacity to take on more debt for goods and services.
foreclosure - means no longer fanatically free... indebted indentured NOT FREE FINANTIALLY
a master or landowner or business owner could remove all of your debt and build up your credit and assist you in paying off dent and even acquiring your own land and properties.
Today, the drug addicted politicians will put someone in prison or just pay another drug addict to put a bullet in someone's head, if they do not immediately open their bank account and fork over their personal earnings that they worked for - to pay for the freedom of all irresponsible and lazy or drug addicted citizens.
The citizen class who vote for the politician will be guaranteed freedom from responsibility, debt and even crimes if they continue to vote and socially support the drug addict politician. IN EFFECT - the hard working class who make efforts to work the hardest for a living become eternally ENSLAVED TO THE LAZY AND DRUGEE CULTURE.
Your duty and the duty of the politicians and social groups you support is to confuse and erase the lines.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into The Anointing have put on The Anointing .
:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in The Anointing Yahashua.
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The Bible does not record a single incident where a homosexual was ever actually killed just because of the mere fact that - they were homosexuals .
The execution or punishment or stoning of homosexuals may have never ever even happened - for the sake of simply being a homosexual .
There is no effort by the authors of the Bible to portray a presentation of glorification of the harming or abusing of the homosexual community.
I recall only three total instances where LITERALL homosexuals were actually living in the Old Testament.
1. was when the homosexuals of Sodom were trying to punish Lot for associating himself with his Polygamous uncle Abraham - the homosexuals were so upset that Lot would bring a Polygamous man into their city that they felt that Lot deserved to taught a lesson - Abraham and his male workers needed to be dragged out in to the streets of Sodom and have their rectums and anal orifices wallowed out and turned inside out and receive a good old fashioned Liberal Democrat gang rape.
Something that most Liberal Democrat women or even most Trinitarian women would absolutely find sheer delight in seeing a Polygamous man properly punished in this way.
Unfortunately for the homosexuals, God did not appreciate this and protected his Polygamous servant Abraham and his nephew Lot - and shortly thereafter, the homosexuals of Sodom and all of their disappointed Liberal Democrat admirers and Pagan Trinitarians found themselves smothered in brimstone and flaming chemicals and burned to a crisp.
2. was when a group of homosexual literally actually did gang raped a women literally to death - in fact these homosexuals raped her over and over for a duration of an entire night. Her rectum and vagina and entire digestive and reproductive system was so badly damaged and turned inside out and flared out and ripped and bleeding and gaping open - that she basically died in horrible agony and suffering early the next morning.
3. was when a specific righteous and very Godly King of Israel basically ordered all of the homosexuals to leave his kingdom and get out of the land of Israel. - just a order from the King sent the homosexuals out and away - maybe the King wanted to have children and was a little worried.
other than these three examples - never was a single mention of any homosexuals being physically abused, persecuted or stoned to death or killed - just because they were homosexual. - in fact - these three instances are the only mention of any homosexuals in the bible. = there were no homosexuals stoned to death or physically punished or harmed because of the fact that they were homosexuals.
Maybe you can take a magic pink pen and write out your own special pretty fantasy about a bible story about homosexuals being abused and tormented and abused by Gods homophobic people...
Just pick up a bible and just start writing, right now. I would like to see what you fantasize about,
Imagine - fantasize and dream away. don't forget to check both of our spelling,
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The Throne Of God described in the scriptures - are specifically referring to the character and attribute of how God is interacting in judgment, mercy, justice and also his eternal power.
not that God is seated or standing or rising up from his throne as seating like a man - but - his spirit is coming down to earth and interacting with his creation - his throne in heaven is his dwelling place and his throne is a description of his power and authority .
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I have seen many people comment about their fantasy slave trade in the Bible
Yet, I have never witnessed these people providing a single passage from the Bible itself - showing anything regarding what they imagine, fantasize and envision in their minds.
Notice = Deu 23:15 Thou shalt not deliver unto his master the servant which is escaped from his master unto thee
: 16 He shall dwell with thee, even among you , in that place which he shall choose in one of thy gates, where it liketh him best: thou shalt not oppress him.
Here, the Israelites, ( WHO did not OWN innocent, Regular people as slaves ) were not to take part in rounding up and RETURNING or SELLING or oppressing the escaped slaves of neighboring nations.
They were to take care of these escaped slaves, KEEP SAFE, Care for and Feed them and respect them and give them a place and a chance of freedom. To work, live in freedom, respect in Israel, free to go as they pleased.
in FACT. - the PUNISHMENT for slavery in Israel _ COMMANDED BY GOD _ was
A FULLLY AUTOMATIC DEATH PENALTY.
And there was no slave trade whatsoever.
Just because the Trinitarians want to please and entertain their mothers and wives and daughters by pretending that the term worker or bonded servant is referring to a slave - does not change the facts.
Trinitarians have absolutely no manuscripts for their faith system.
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If the Jews were living in Israel, as enslaved weak helpless victims and under the authority of the Muslim world -
then Israel would never even be considered an apartheid state - there would be no one complaining about Jews living in Israel
If the Muslims would segregate and separate the Jews in Israel or anywhere - and not allow the Jews to become citizens with any rights, no one would be concerned - IN FACT - if ISRAEL DID NOT EXIST, as a Jewish homeland and as a Jewish safe - haven - the world would not even know much of anything about the presence of Jews in the Middle East.
Israel is labeled and castigated as an apartheid state as a a villain - only because the Muslims are loosing the war and only because Muslims are incapable of enslaving the Jewish people.
Christians and Jews and " Non - Muslims " do not have rights in Islamic countries - they all are apartheid and segregated and reduced to slaves and a lower class society.
IN FACT - the Quran says directly and clearly - that Allah had given Israel to the Jews and that Allah even had sternly commanded the Jews to exterminate all the original inhabitants of Israel and to take the land for themselves !
IN FACT - the Quran says directly and clearly - that Allah had given Israel to the Jews and that Allah even had sternly commanded the Jews to exterminate all the original inhabitants of Israel and to take the land for themselves !
The Quran itself says and - prophecies and reveals prophecy - that Israel belongs to the Jews
But today Muslims have received new revelation and new prophecy -
the Quran's message is not complete and Mohammud is not the last and final prophet.
Muslims provide themselves their own revelations in hundreds of thousands of additional hadith with extra added prophecies, additional revelations, they receive - hundreds of years after Mohammad had died.
thousands of additional Hadith books filled with new revelations and new prophecies - after the Quran has already been given
The Quran is not " THE FINAL MESSAGE " - and Mohammud is not " the final prophet " - each Muslim is also a prophet unto themselves.
the Quran's message is not complete and Mohammud is not the last and final prophet.
Muslims provide themselves their own revelations in hundreds of thousands of additional hadith with extra added prophecies, additional revelations, they receive - hundreds of years after Mohammad had died.
thousands of additional Hadith books filled with new revelations and new prophecies - after the Quran has already been given
The Quran is not " THE FINAL MESSAGE " - and Mohammud is not " the final prophet " - each Muslim is also a prophet unto themselves.
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Most Bi-Sexual and Homosexual
Pedophiles do not force their will onto little boys. They simply, calmly and
secretly begin to have fantasies that the little male child is of a female
spirit or nature with male body parts - just like the nature in themselves..
They simply wish to open the door of
the male and create, develop and install into the male child - a feminine
spirit or a ladylike, soft, dainty, female, tender, womanly, effeminate
character of the Bi-Sexual and Homosexual spirit
Wherein they satisfy their sexual
lusts upon another male.
The adult man wants to take part in
the sexual development of the child.
To Bi-Sexual and Homosexual men - this is the greatest lust, to open the sexual
entryway and new trails and paths of a little boy. The child's male body is
undeveloped and the Bi-Sexual and Homosexual male is attracted and wants to
sexually bring on , stimulate induce the little male child and experience the
sexual reaction with the child.
A straight man does not feel
attracted to a little boy.
it is not a heterosexual attraction.
Liberal Democrat voters have been
harmful to little children regarding their sexuality.
With Liberal Democrats, they spend
millions of dollars building great campaign propagandizing the idea that little
children can know if they are Transgender or Gay / Homosexual / Female gender
or male at a very, very early age
They set up programs and laws and mandates
in order to cause a breakdown in their Conservative Republican political
opponents and in the family structure and family unit, to attack the system by
enacting and exaggerating the idea that children are being neglected and disrespected
sexually because children have knowledge of their sexual preference and
pre-knowledge about their gender and sexuality but the political opponents {
Conservatives / Republicans } somehow have not accommodated the children's
sexual needs.
The Liberal Democrat acts if a little
child knows something about their sexual identity and the Liberal Democrats
also acts as if THEY know something about the child's sexual identity.
But when a religious man molests a
little boy,
suddenly all of the Liberal Democrat fantasy and sexual role-playing and -
projection that they sexually stimulate and project and simulate within and onto the little children suddenly goes out the
door
and the Liberal Democrat finger ONLY points at the religion itself, instead of the homosexual lust that the adult male is forcing onto the male
child.
Suddenly the child has no sexuality
and awareness of His gender because He is suddenly too young and the religious
person who molested the child also has no understanding about the sexual
identity of the little boy either.
HERE THE FINGERS are always pointed
to the religion =
They pretend that a priest or religious homosexual man who
hides His homosexuality to keep His religious status and job is somehow
deserving a special privilege or a right that He deserves giving Him an
exclusive right to His privacy about the fact that HE is a homosexual who is
attracted to little boys.
The Liberal Democrat demands that the
religious child molester is exclusively, suddenly somehow been rendered as
unable to understand anything about the Child’s male gender...
Which all makes it a Non-Homosexual
act because the gay priest denies that He is gay.
And Roman Catholics also play along
pretending that the man is simply confused or mentally unstable instead of
acknowledging that He is a homosexual.
Liberal Democrats demand that sex act
involving a man and a little boy is somehow suddenly not a homosexual act
committed by the adult when the man is a part of a religion.
And the child molester’ s
sexuality is hidden in concealment, confidentiality, isolation, retreat and
privacy and confusion and unfamiliarity because He is too religious to be a
real homosexual even in eyes of the Roman Catholics around Him. As they cover and hide the fact that
the molester is, in fact, a homosexual or Bi-Sexual.. The door is always left
open as the molester can never be profiled or identified as anything but a
RELIGIOUS MAN.
As the Democrat Party spends millions
of dollars building great campaigns propagandizing the idea that little
children and adults can know if children are Transgender or Gay / Homosexual /
Female gender or male, at a very, very early age.
But when a gay man knows that
the boy is a male gender and is trying to force a FEMALE GENDER on the boy
suddenly it is not really sexual but SIMPLY an act of an attraction to the innocence,
pureness and unawareness and confusion and ignorance of little child, to the
enjoyment of the man who is actually in FACT, a homosexual or a Bi - sexual or
both.
What a perverted, twisted and deceitful society - the people
who are Democrat voters.
Such pedophiles
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Muslims deflect to the Bible because they have absolutely no manuscripts for their faith.
Muslims also have a Quran that claims to be the final word of Allah - Mohammud is the final messenger and FINAL AND LAST PROPHET
the Quran is the complete and final word and nothing more is needed - the Quran demands that it is clear and understandable and complete as
" the final message with a final prophet "
Yet , Muslims say one thing - but do the complete opposite of what they profess to believe - as they have been adding and compiling more and more revealing's and prophesying's on top of everything Mohammad provided. Muslims provide themselves their own revelations in hundreds of thousands of additional hadith with extra added prophecies, additional revelations that they make in thousands of additional Hadith books hundreds of years after Mohammad had died.
thousands of additional Hadith books after the Quran has already been given as adding onto THE FINAL MESSAGE - the final prophecy - the final and COMPLETE word of God.
Islam is a circular system that forces all Muslims to pretend to be themselves all messengers and themselves prophets following after Mohammud who are themselves also continuing the revealing and the completion of of the process of islamic prophecy - to explain and add and complete all of the failed prophecies that Mohammad failed to provide in his Quran.
Muslims are unsatisfied with the Quran - so they write hadith = when this fails they turn to the bible = when this fails they make laws to remove your lips from reaching ears.
Muslims are saying that Mohammad failed, his revelation has not been completed and that we need to produce mountains of pages of documentation in HADITH - thousands upon thousands of additional books explaining everything that the Quran never mentioned everything that is not a part of Mohammad’s prophecy - not part of the Quran - to further expound and further prophecy a continuation of additional revelation UPON the existing Quranic message that has left them distrustful, doubtful and questioning, incomplete and with the entirety of Islam as it exists today
in effect, every Muslim, is a prophet and revelator of Islam - because the religion of Islam, as it exists today - is not in the Quran.
if the Quran was the last book on earth - the religion of Islam would need thousands of additional books, prophecies, stories and revelations to be added and compiled in order to reveal and prophecy the product of what Islam represents today.
In reality, Mohammud is not the final prophet - each and every single Muslim born after Mohammud are also prophets who provide additional revelation and prophecy.
After a Muslim becomes well knowledgeable in Islam he finds thrill and love in perverting the Bible - he finds the inspiration that inspired Islam
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@Yassine
Num 22:6 - The Midianites joined forces with the Moabites in order to smite Israel and drive Israel out of the land.
Israel was at W A R with the nations surrounding them - FOR 40 LONG AND BLOODY YEARS
Israel had already been fighting wars and battles with nearly every major superpower around them. AND ISRAEL WAS ATTACKED FIRST - Israel was fighting a defensive war against the Midianites.
In - Numbers 31: it explains that - the Midianites had allied themselves and joined with the Moabites AGAINST ISRAEL - to destroy and eliminate the Hebrew people.
Num 22:6 - The Midianites joined forces with the Moabites in order to smite Israel and drive Israel out of the land.
One can pretend, fantasize or imagine that after the Jews achieved victory - that the captured Midianite virgins were passed around and sold and used as sex slaves -
but this is simply fantasy and imagination.
The Bible does not condone RAPING WOMEN AND KILLING THE FAMILY OF THE WOMAN.
Every single event in the Bible where VIRGINS were spared and saved - was the consequences of generational war
Israel was defending itself and killing all of the males of the enemy who had been at war with you for many, many years was necessary to win this war.
In todays modern times, in order to win wars, the victor MUST bomb entire cities - men, women and children must be all killed - in WWll millions upon millions of women and children were killed in massive bombings throughout Japan and Germany.
The Jews were greatly outnumbered - fighting a generational war for 40 long and bloody years against multiple civilizations - the Jews did not have bombs and chemicals - the Jews simply killed the entire city and spared anything that would not harm them in the future.
this would be all disease - free, woman and sometimes the livestock.
The reason feminists' defend Islam is because they need Islam to represent the Bible. they do not even take time to look at the original manuscripts and accept that the Trinitarians have greatly perverted the entire bible.
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The reason someone would want to spend eternity with a God who prohibits homosexuality ..........
....... is simply because the creator God whom is the designer of our bodies, he did not design or organize our bodies to have the sexual enactment of the continual plunging and thrusting our penis into one another's rectum.
The designer, creator / God has already clearly explained and given mankind a detailed clarity concerning this - this is exactly what the " BLOOD CRIMES " are detailing from the very beginning.
If God is making this clear and explaining that this is a " BLOOD CRIME " against the society around you and also harmful to our own bodies
in the Bible the point that the prophets were making was that the Jews were to be clean. The cleaning of pots, pans, vessels, Washing, BATHING Every Single time after SEX, Washing after touching Dead People or animals. Keeping away from other people if You touch a Dead ROTTING Animal. Making sure to Mary a virgin or a widow. No sex with Animals. No gay sex.
'When any man at all - has a discharge from his body, His discharge is unclean.
And whoever touches his bed shall wash his clothes and bathe in water, Whoever sits on anything that is unclean shall wash his clothes and bathe in water, and bathe his body in running water ........ '
'If a woman has a discharge, and the discharge from her body is blood - everything that she sits on shall be unclean.
the LAW was to --- ___ ** separate the children of Israel from their uncleanness, lest they die in their uncleanness.
Don't Eat bats, Lions, Cats, Rats, Eel, stingray, and catfish fishes with no fins and scales) Snakes. Don't Eat Raw Blood.
the Point of punishment for BLOOD CRIMES The law of Moses, Punished People for Committing BLOOD CRIMES against Others.
Creating Diseases, Birth Defects, and Plagues. Today People Run Wild, INFECTING Millions. ......
God Did not put up With this. the actors were punished and the Disease, infections, and Danger to Innocent Lives and People Following the LAW were safe. Water supplies, Food Supplies and All Cooking and Daily Living was Safe.
Today we have millions of innocent people with diseases and these BLOOD CRIMES are destroying millions of people. Today nearly 37 million people worldwide living with HIV, approximately 1.8 million are innocent children.
There are 23,000 to 46,000 children in the U.S. with Hepatitis C. In comparison, approximately four million American adults have the virus.
The creator had given permission to mankind to remove and eliminate other people who would willingly and knowing endanger and infect and cause diseases and sickness to you and your family
This is the instructions of the Creator and the way that God designed our bodies - if we alter and deviate from that design - we will have millions of people sick, infected and spreading death. For most atheist's this is no problem for them
Atheist's have absolutely no problem with millions of people dying and sick - that they prefer this death and disease over the obedience to following the clear instructions of the designer.
In fact, disease, sickness and death is what atheist's worship and honor and glorify.
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Deu 22:5 The
woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put
on a woman's garment:
for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men
:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men
:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
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We see also that in the entire Old Testament and New - never do we find anyone ever physically recorded as having been stoned to death for adultery.
It just was never recorded in the Bible.
It may or possibly or probably did happen - however, there is not a single recorded instance or incident that tells that anyone was ever stoned to death for adultery.
The point to the law was orbiting around disease prevention, I believe that stoning to death simply did not occur in the way that people imagine or envision.
The Law was given at the time of Moses, there were diseases, plagues and viruses that were killing thousands of people in just a single day and at this time - yes - there were people recorded as having been killed for committing immoral sex acts and literally infecting others and bringing diseases and plagues into the encampment of the Israelites.
But after this catastrophic event in Moses's lifetime and by him the law was given - however, after Moses we can not point to a single incident where anyone was killed for sexual immorality.
Also, after Moses was gone, the following prophets after him, did not repeat this law.
The prophets after Moses did not declare that the death penalty was important for breaking sexually related blood crimes. Even the homosexuals were never killed. the kings simply told them to leave the area and they were put out of the land.
This law was given during a time period in which diseases and sicknesses were prevalent and spreading to thousands of innocent people and the law was given specifically to prevent people infecting others with sexually transmitted diseases.
If a woman was dishonest and lying about her BLOOD related activities and had had blood transitions with other males and was lying to another man about this - then the law was there to protect a man who would otherwise be a victim of a possible disease or sickness .
A woman who had sexual relations with other men would then lie about this and proceed to marry a man who has 4 or 6 other wives - and this potential sickness or disease would be spread to him and all of his other multiple wives and all of their future children would also become sick and diseased before they knew that the new wife was lying about her BLOOD CRIME....
blood crimes are real -
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@Mopac
Lucifer is an Italian word meaning - LIGHT or Glorified. OR PRAISED ONE
When the Trinitarian Roman Catholic Translators Translated the Bible into English in 1582 " The Douay Rheims " the translators simply refused to translate the Hebrew word { HALLAL } meaning PRAISED .
they left this Hebrew word in Italian - pretending that this word was a Title for Satan.
In fact " Lucifer does not exist in the Hebrew or Greek manuscripts - Lucifer or LIGHT or PRAISED " was never a name - given to Satan in the Bible.
this Hebrew word " הָלַל " HALAL appears in the Old Testament a total of 26 total times.
Isa 4:12 = is about the king of Babylon - not about Satan - and Satan had not fallen from heaven until after Yahashua The Son Of God was conceived upon the earth.
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@Stephen
There is no doubt that at times the disciples of Yahashua / Je Zeus did wonder if he was possessed or out of his mind.
According to the Bible - even the little brothers of Yahashua did not believe his message.
Joh 7:2 Now the Jews' feast of tabernacles was at hand.
:3 His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.
:5 For neither did his brethren believe in him.
There were times when his family and the apostles and disciples doubted and felt uncertainty about the message of Yahashua, even Peter denied he even knew him on three separate occasions.
If you read the full story, instead of focusing in - only upon partial phrases and partial verses and one line one step / one verse theological conclusions you will find that
The ministry of Yahashua is explaining who Yahoshua truly is. So already from the beginning Of His ministry and at the beginning of all of the Apostles and Disciples ministry - they were learning and finding out and discovering themselves information about Yahoshua - and who He was. We see this learning process as it is recorded.
By the time this learning process is complete - the author's give an account and record of what they learned and how they learned these things about Yahoshua as what they believe is the Holy Spirit verifying who Yahoshua truly is.
None of them- knew or understand who Yahoshua truly was - nor understood His mission and purpose here in earth.
They wrote the Bible in the context of a learning processed - a day to day account of what they learned, experienced, and how they learned and discovered these things.
His ministry explaining who Yahoshua truly is. So already from the beginning Of His ministry and at the beginning of all of the Apostles and Disciples ministry - they were learning and finding out and discovering themselves about Yahoshua - and who He was. We see this learning process as it is recorded.
They wrote the Bible in the context of learning as processed - a day-to-day account of what they learned, experienced, and how they learned and discovered these things.
So to take a one line / ONE STEP THEOLOGICAL Catholic or Trinitarian or Islamic approach to the Bible -
this does not present the full story - it only provides support for a pre - conceived - presumed narrative by using this ONE STEP THEOLOGY reasoning. This is exactly what Trinitarians and Muslims themselves are doing.
Try moving beyond the one step mindset and read the surrounding context and review the full story and circumstances instead of just ripping a line out here and there and inventing a new theology and new faith about something that is not in context of the surrounding body of the manuscripts.
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@Theweakeredge
Honestly, I am not sure what part of the Biblical account entailed within my post seemed inaccurate or unscriptural or unfactual.
As far as the subject of Rome outlawing and prohibiting Plural / Polygamy marriage in parts of Israel controlled by the Roman Government. here are a few links that explain this in more detail.
In the Roman empire - monogamy was strictly enforced as law.
In 285 A.D. a constitution of Diocletian and Maximian outlawed polygamy to all subjects of the empire without exception.
You can look online and review the persecution that the Jews endured under The Roman Empire.
here is one link - out of many more - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Judaism/The-Roman-period-63-bce-135-ce
if there was something inaccurate or untruthful in my post, please let me know.
If someone does not believe the Biblical account because the surrounding nations and communities do not have the same record of events in their historical data, Please realize that these surrounding communities are the nations that evolved into the religions of Islam and Catholicism.
So it is a matter of placing your trust in the Bible or trusting in the Islamic narrative - and the Catholic narrative of what defines historical fact.
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Hello Theweakeredge
I had noticed the great statements you had posted about the fact that in the Bible - there were Servants and Masters.
The term " MASTER " in the first century and going back in time - simply defines the meaning of someone in charge or in control.
This is no different than today's term for - a " BOSS " or " SUPERIOR " or " SUPERVISOR "
Someone at your hypothetical place of work could approach you and with a self-asserting and demeaning or aggressive tone, they could loudly - say to you
I AM YOUR SUPERIOR or I am your BOSS - and to you and the way you view the Bible - this would seem to you as if you were back in the Bible days.
Do you think it is pretentious to try to pretend that there was not a working-class society in the Middle East who worked for a living as indebted servants or bondservants?
There was not an overabundant supply of modern dispensaries and hot plates and TV dinners and hot pockets on every corner block with microwaves and full service provisions. Every single move you make in the old world was a carefully decisive pre-planned maneuver , that affected not only your own life and your own family's lives - but also affected and impacted the lives of many others around you.
There was no soup line funded by the state and welfare office in every division of the cities - people worked with the processing of a pre-planned goal and the Master or the " BOSS " or " SUPERIOR " or " SUPERVISOR " took your debts and took responsibility for your debts and bills with the contract that you would complete your contract fully and your debts you and your family had incurred would be paid off directly by your Master or the " BOSS " or " SUPERIOR " or " SUPERVISOR "
The Bible is not written for the DESIGN and purpose for people 2000 years later to go back into the ancient language, in this ancient Old World and begin to manipulate and pretend that the Old World Technology and Terminology Bible is somehow influencing them to retard and drag today's civilization and society back into the stone age.
The message was for directing the Old World in its ability to convey the message that servants - indebted servants who have incurred debts, bills and who owe monies and beneficiaries - they are to obey and serve in fear and trembling and reverence and up - most respect and continue the traditional methods of taking obligation and responsibilities seriously and not throwing off their obligations.
Fear and Trembling - this was an era and time period where Israel faced horrible times, their countries economy was declining - the Roman Canaanite italian Government was inflicting taxes upon them, there were millions of Jews who were indebted to one another.
There was an upper-class society of Jews who were working for the Roman Canaanite italian Government and Italian society - Jewish Physicians, Tax Collectors and Merchants and Religious seculars who were involved in working with the Roman Canaanite Italian society - and there was the underclass society of Jews who were homeless, impoverished, sickly and feeble and in an eternal state of debt.
The Roman Canaanite Italian Government was arresting people, torturing people, crucifying the Jewish people and beating them to death, and demanding taxes paid . - - The Roman Canaanite italian Government was threatening to destroy their families and civilization -
Polygamy Marriage was banned and outlawed and a pagan oppressive anti - Family, anti - God regime was demanding that the Jews were to turn in and hand over their religious Prophets and would-be religious leaders who would assume to govern Israel independently.
Jesus Christ and his family were hunted down by The Canaanite italian Government under King Herod and every firstborn male within his entire home town were slaughtered and killed when Jesus was just a little baby.
Please, reconsider your perception of the language of the Bible and take the time to read the environment in which the Bible is written.
Paul was speaking to Jews under the foot of a Satanic, Barbaric and Perverse and violent, oppressive Canaanite italian Government who were working as indebted servants who were under conditions that would cause the average, everyday, ordinary impoverished citizen to feel threatened and in a state of shock, fear and literally trembling.
If you continue to engage in discussing the Bible - please read the surrounding facts that lead to this statement made by Saint Paul.
And also. please mention the complete story that concludes in verse 9.
Eph 6:9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of outward appearance with him.
Paul was not addressing the Canaanite Italian Church Fathers nor addressing the Pagan Trinitarian citizens of England.
Who have manipulated, perverted and mistranslated, and altered the original message of the original manuscripts deliberately - to lead you to believe what you believe about the Jewish society and their Scriptures - because they knew exactly that this is what your mother and your potential wife would rather believe about the Bible
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The Bible shows - a progression involving _ the evolution of the forces of evil, meaning, Spirits that operated as an Adversary or as an Opponent against human beings.
Adversary - means = - Satan…… in Hebrew..
At first, these spirits were at times permitted to be involved as a spiritual influence upon individuals - to the testing, tempting and trying of individuals to determine their true intentions and condition of their mind and heart.
At first, in the Old Testament there were spirits that were designed to be sent to entice and tempt mankind.
These spirits are not depicted as making efforts or attempts - to possess and take control of people or to harm individuals
there were mainly Old Testament spirits that were tempters and testers in matters concerning disobedience - disbelief and doubt and foolishness and other various natural instincts found in human beings.
These spirits knew some details concerning the future and began communicating with humans involving necromancy and witchcraft and fortunetelling and other paths of religious worship that began to veer and stray away from the designated path that God had prescribed for man.
As time passed over thousands of years these spirits began to make a choice to leave their design and purpose and began to rebel against God.
These spirits were given free will - free choice - to serve or to rebel against god. The Spirits began to slowly develop a hatred and jealousy and animosity toward human beings and determined to destroy and corrupt the human race.
The Spirits then began to develop or learn more about the weakness and imperfections and frailty of humans and began to involve themselves in the direct destruction and ruination and in the controlled development of leading humans astray - by influencing mankind to destroy themselves and one another.
As time progressed, the spirits rebelled against God and literally left heaven and abandoned the service and summoning of God and dedicated all of their time and energy to the fall and destruction and corruption of mankind -as they developed a hatred jealousy and detestation for the relationship that God desired with his creation on earth.
By the time of - the New Testament era, the Spirits had completely rebelled against god and were at war with God and sought to completely bring death, destruction and evil upon all mankind.
Adversary - means = - Satan…… in Hebrew..
At first, these spirits were at times permitted to be involved as a spiritual influence upon individuals - to the testing, tempting and trying of individuals to determine their true intentions and condition of their mind and heart.
At first, in the Old Testament there were spirits that were designed to be sent to entice and tempt mankind.
These spirits are not depicted as making efforts or attempts - to possess and take control of people or to harm individuals
there were mainly Old Testament spirits that were tempters and testers in matters concerning disobedience - disbelief and doubt and foolishness and other various natural instincts found in human beings.
These spirits knew some details concerning the future and began communicating with humans involving necromancy and witchcraft and fortunetelling and other paths of religious worship that began to veer and stray away from the designated path that God had prescribed for man.
As time passed over thousands of years these spirits began to make a choice to leave their design and purpose and began to rebel against God.
These spirits were given free will - free choice - to serve or to rebel against god. The Spirits began to slowly develop a hatred and jealousy and animosity toward human beings and determined to destroy and corrupt the human race.
The Spirits then began to develop or learn more about the weakness and imperfections and frailty of humans and began to involve themselves in the direct destruction and ruination and in the controlled development of leading humans astray - by influencing mankind to destroy themselves and one another.
As time progressed, the spirits rebelled against God and literally left heaven and abandoned the service and summoning of God and dedicated all of their time and energy to the fall and destruction and corruption of mankind -as they developed a hatred jealousy and detestation for the relationship that God desired with his creation on earth.
By the time of - the New Testament era, the Spirits had completely rebelled against god and were at war with God and sought to completely bring death, destruction and evil upon all mankind.
Possession and Control over humanity eventually became the ONLY focus of these spirits who had rebelled.
And the New Testament shows and describes this in detail.
The Jewish leaders were upset because Jesus was accusing them of being or existing from the evil spirit of the Adversary - the Devil / Satan.
If you read the chapter, Jesus is accusing them of belonging to or being from the adversarial spirit world - of the adversary - Satan.
So the Jewish leaders simply replied to him or responded to him by accusing him of being possessed by an adversarial spirit.
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I have been debating this subject with many great Christians for a number of years. There are so many intelligent and passionate Christians to continue to believe this.
I have found that Trinitarian Christians are the main group who believe that FALLEN ANGELS are called SONS OF GOD in the bible.
But those who make this claim, as being represented in the bible clearly and eternally FAIL to provide even a single verse in theentire OLD TESTAMENT that mentions anything whatsoever about - " FALLEN ANGELS "
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. There is not a single verse anywhere in the entire Old Testament that even hints to your narrative that angels fell from heaven before YAHOSHUA CAME TO EARTH.
It was Yahoshua himself, Here on earth - that witnessed - SATAN FALLING FROM HEAVEN.
Luk 10:18 And YAHOSHUA said unto them, " I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven "
When we go to the book of Revelation - we see that it is AFTER Yahoshua came to earth - THEN AND ONLY THEN - are the Angels being cast out and " FALLING FROM HEAVEN. "
In the ENTIRE - Old Testament - Satan and Spiritual being / ANGELShave left his first estate, And LEFT His OWN HABITATION in heaven and has chosen to come to earth and he is an adversary { a judge } to the man, That God has created.
As we see throughout the Old Testament that Satan and specific Angels are allowed by God to test individuals here on earth.As we see with Adam and Eve in the Garden
The Angels and SATAN were never FALLEN or THROWN DOWN FROM HEAVEN IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. They left heaven and left their own habitation, Departing of their own free will.
Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
We also see the fact that - - THE HEBREW WORD FALLEN - HAS A SIMILAR PRONUNCIATION OR SOUNDS SIMILAR TO THE HEBREW WORD GIANT. This has nothing to do with angels. BECAUSE THE ANGELS DID NOT EVEN FALL OR BECOME THROWN DOWN TO EARTH UNTIL THE NEW TESTAMENT.
THIS IS A FACT. So the entire narrative has no meaning in the Bible = NEVER WILL A SINGLE VERSE IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE BE PROVIDED - TO EVEN COME CLOSE TO CONFIRM THIS UNTRUTHFULDECEPTIVE FALSEHOOD.
SO WE SEE - there is a difference between the Hebrew word " FALL " and the word" GIANT "
GIANT - - Nephyl - NEPHIL = NEPH EEL or ILL.
FALLEN - Naphal - NAPHAAL = NAPH AAL or ALL
FALLEN - Naphal - NAPHAAL = NAPH AAL or ALL
The reason that the words " GIANTS and the idea of FALLING " are so closely similar in sounding the same - is because when the giant was defeated their - FALLING DOWN - was so enormous and important to the part of defeating them". . It was obviously the fact that giants were mutants and had birth defects, Extra fingers and toes and enormous body parts. They were enormously disproportionally MIS SHAPED and ONCE THEY FELL DOWN - they could not get back up very quickly and ONCE FALLEN - the giant was able then to be defeated.
Giants are strong, They have the power to wield larger weapons and the strength to overpower smaller men, But they have weaknesses in their bones and cartilage in their back, Hips, Legs and feet asthey take on an enormous amount of weight. Once a giant has been injured in the lower body, They become slow and weaker and when they fall,They are rendered vulnerable as it takes them longer to get back on their feet. THE MAIN GOAL WAS TO FALL THE GIANT.
The bible makes this distinction of in the way that David was able to defeat the giants in his day.
2Sa 21:22 These four were born to the giant in Gath, And FELL by the hand of David, And by the hand of his servants.
1Ch 20:8 These were born unto the giant in Gath, and they FELL by the hand of David, And by the hand of his servants.
This is exactly how King David killed his first giant, He launched a stone into his head, The giant fell down stunned and dazed and David simply grabbed a sword and hacked his huge head off.
So when we correctly translate Gen 6:4
WE READ - :4 GIANTS - WERE IN THE LAND THE DAY OFTHIS AND ALSO AFTER SO WHICH CAME SONS OF GOD TO DAUGHTERS OF MAN BEARING THEM THAT MIGHTY MEN WHICH ALWAYS OF OLD WERE NAMED.
This Hebrew word " AFTER " is - 'achar/ akh-ar' - Meaning = " AFTER THIS or Following that " i
This word is used 715 times in the Bible and always means = " AFTER THIS - AFTER THAT or Following afterwards = "AFTERWARDS " - NEXT TO HAPPEN. .
I CAN PROVE THIS FACT. AND I can prove that the Angels DID NOT FALL TO EARTH FROM HEAVEN UNTIL
If the giants were already in the earth in those days and / also " AFTER THIS - AFTER THAT or Following afterwards = "AFTERWARDS " - NEXT TO HAPPEN. .
Which came the sons of God to daughters of men, THEIR OFFSPRING BECAME MIGHTY MEN WHOSE NAMES WERE ALWAYS MENTIONED / NAMED.
The GIANTS WERE ALREADY IN THE LAND - The verse does not say the opposite or reversal,
The verse does is not saying the opposite or reversal, To be saying that " WHEN THE SONS OF GOD CAME IN UNTO THE DAUGHTERS OF MEN AND ALSO AFTER THAT " THEN AFTER THAT " - THERE WERE GIANTS IN THE EARTH.
It says " There were giants in the earth in those days, And also after that " THEN after that when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men " - the mighty men were born.
their union or offspring - created mighty men which from always men named.
They became known to be called as mighty men because they faced the PROBLEM concerning the subject LISTED -BEING - the sons of God - were faced with the problem of dealing with and FALLING THE GIANTS AND KILLING THEM.
The fact that the Angels had never fallen from heaven until the New Testament age = proves beyond any doubt that this claim is completely false.
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The purpose of the story was to explain that Jephthah knew that his daughter and her friends were not behaving themselves by being sexually immoral and Jephthah was allowing it to take place and was not stopping his daughter from committing wickedness pertaining to her virginity.
As the following verses explain what it was all about.
Jdg 11:37 And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and mourn concerning / about my virginity, I and my fellows.
But this is also a mistranslation.
ותאמר Saying - על upon - אביה her father - יעשׂה i will - יעשׂה do - לי הדבר this mater for me -
הזה that - הרפה - leave forsaken / alone - ממני from - שׁנים two - חדשׁים months
ואלכה I go - וירדתי down - על upon - ההרים the mountain - ואבכה weeping / crying - על about / upon
בתולי virginity - אנכי - - - I am = ורעי - תי׃ evil / bad.
If you look up this last word in the verse " ורעי " in any Hebrew dictionary or in the Bible, it means bad or evil.
The Trinitarian translators changed the meaning of this entire story and they changed multiple words to tell a completely different story.
Jdg 11:39 And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, accomplishing herself his vow he vowed: and she knew no man. As it was the = " חֹק " ORDINANCE / statute / law in Israel.
This word Law, Ordinance, Statue = " חֹק " is used 127 times in the Old Testament and the Trinitarian Translators change this word 2 times to say " custom " but the word has nothing to do with a custom. it is always a commandment, an ordinance, and a law.
Basically his daughter repented and kept the law pertaining to her virginity and sexuality. As her father vowed, knowing that she would walk right out of the front door the moment he returned home from war.
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Here are the ten verses where this form of the word is used.
Job 36:13 The hypocrites { sodomites } heap up wrath: they cry not when he bindeth them. :14 They die in youth, and their life is among the unclean. - :33 The noise thereof upon the cattle is also / like upon the - “ wicked “ “ :עולה “
Jdg 11:31 Jephthah vowed unto the LORD, saying I will give up “ wickedness / iniquity. “ :עולה “
Job 11:14 Let not “ wickedness “ :עולה “ dwell in thy tabernacles.
Job 15:16 A filthy is man, which drinketh “ iniquity “ :עולה “ like water?
Job24:20 “ wickedness - “ :עולה “ shall be broken as a tree.
Job36:23 Thou hast wrought “ iniquity “ :עולה “
Psa 37:1 Neither be thou envious against the workers of “ iniquity “ :עולה “
Isa 40:16 and Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for“ iniquity “ :עולה “
Mic 3:10 They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with “ iniquity “ :עולה “
Hab 2:12 Woe to him that buildeth a town with blood, and stablisheth a city by “ iniquity “ :עולה “
This Hebrew word “ :עולה “ is translated and literally means - wickedness /iniquity. “ :עולה “ -
and this word in this form with the two VERTICAL DOTS “ : : in front of it appear - - ONLY 10 total times only “ - The reason these two dots “ : “ are placed in front of the word, is to make a clear, solid distinction to show that the meaning of the word is- wickedness / iniquity. “ :עולה “ - and not - a burnt offering.
But yet “ A BURNT OFFERING “ is also always the same exact word as “ עולה " without the two vertical dots “ : :עולה - with the two verticaldots: עולה - the word runs in the manuscripts always as - wickedness / iniquity. “
If you look up the word H5766 - EVIL = עַוְלָה in the HebrewLexical System - You will see that this word is - Meaning = ‛Evel ‛âvel is placed in the same LEXICAL SYSTEM - as burnt offering because they both are the same exact spelling in the manuscripts.
H5766 Eh'-vel, Aw'-vel, Av-law', O-law', O-law'
Evil: - iniquity,perverseness, unjust (-ly), unrighteousness (-ly), wicked (-ness).
I could show you many, many more examples but Jdg 11:30 says - Jephthah vowed unto the LORD, saying I will give up“ wickedness / iniquity. “ עולה׃ “
This verse has nothing to do with Jephthah burning his daughter alive -
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I do truly understand the disfavour and great dislike for the Bible that many people truly feel.
However, much of this disdain, dislike and disapproval of the Bible is completely justified, simply because of the manner in which the Trinitarian Translators twisted and changed the bible from the message of original manuscripts.
The Trinitarian Translators who waited until nearly 2000 years just to translate the bible into another language, were too busy burning people alive, harassing, torturing, and terrorizing and destroying all manuscripts associated to any other translation - that did not identify with the Latin / Italian translations doctrinals and passage renderings.
Trinitarians were only hunting down people who translated the Bible into any other language -
It was not until 1582 - nearly 2000 years after Christ, that the world received its very first translation of the Bible in another language, that all of the governments and kingdoms of Europe would allow you to read without the threat of being declared a heretic, anathema or persecuted and violently attacked, killed or fined - or all your property confiscated.
This is nearly 2000 years after Yahoshua. After the English translation - the European Trinitarians continued afterwards - to persecute and terrorize others who refused to believe as they believed. In 1582 - - the very first translation of a Bible translation was permitted that all of the governments and kingdoms of Europe would FEDERALLY LICENSE, permit / allow - you to read without the violent threat of being declared heretic, anathema, persecuted, violently attacked, killed or fined - or all your property confiscated - or they just force you to be shipped out across the ocean to die of starvation or disease or lost at sea.
For eample - The Trinitarian Translators had absolutely no use and no value in correctly translating Jephthah’s vowel in Jdg 11:30.
The Trinitarians translate the verse to say that a man named Jephthah literally burned his daughter in a sacrifice to God.
The goals of the Trinitarian Translators was to insert interweave and project the most harsh unkindness, the most callousness, ruthlessness and violence that was possible into the Old Testament concerning the characters.
The Trinitarians translated Jdg 11:30 - 31 to say..........
And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands,
:31 Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD'S, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.
But this is not what the manuscripts say. The fact is - there are some Hebrew words that have the same exact spelling and the same exact characters, but yet - they are also two different words - with two totally different meanings.
Here are just a few of these Hebrew words.
Easy = קל (kal) - Spoon = כף (kaf) - Brother = אח (akh) - Glass (for drinking) = כוס (kos)
Light = קל (kal) - Palm (of the hand) = כף (kaf) - Fireplace = אח (akh) - Owl = כוס (kos)
But = אולם (ulam) - Frost = קרה (kara)
Hall = אולם (ulam) - Happened = קרה (kara).... and there are many, many other Hebrew words that have the same spelling and pronunciation.
ALSO - A BURNT OFFERING “ עולה "
and INIQUITY or WICKEDNESS - “ עולה "
These two words also are another instance - where these two different words have the same exact spelling and same exact characters. Yet they are not the same meaning. “ עולה "
BUT - The Hebrew Manuscripts - in The Original Hebrew documents have these two vertical dots, as you see here = “ : as :עולה “ : before this word, to make a clear distinction to truly show and indicate the clarity in the difference - that this Hebrew word “ :עולה “ does not mean “ A BURNT OFFERING “
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Very interesting. Thank you for sharing this very in-depth reality. I agree mostly with what you say. Although I am not sure that vampires really exist, mostly because I have never seen any evidence of vampires in real life.
Also, aliens. I have never seen evidence of Aliens. However evil spirits working through the IDEA of ghosts and spirits of the dead, this is a very long historical reality that exists in most cultures around the world.
But then again I could be wrong about the vampires because there are various forms of vampire stories and vampire type creatures that are claimed in various cultures that they suck out our life force in a spiritual way. The vampire stories of creatures who suck out the blood of men and woman and who live for thousands of years, this is a very interesting storyline and has made a lot of very interesting movies and books. However, proof of these types of creatures simply does not exist. { from my experience personally } I have seen proof of demon-possessed people who have been delivered and set free from demon possession.
Very interesting...
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There were stipulations for committing the crime of rape. If I had raped a woman under The Law Of Moses - I would be taken out to a clear area and stoned to death with stones. With a punishment so severe and literally a capital crime with a " FULL AUTOMATIC " death penalty - the Law also required the property of the violent rapists to be given to the family of the woman he violently forced and raped.
If the rape could not be proven and there was no physical evidence, but the daughter claimed that she had been forced and truly raped - then the father could be the final judge to bring forth the evidence that his that his young daughter was telling the truth and then choose that the man was not allowed to be married to his daughter. AND the man who forced or seduced his daughter would still have to pay money for his actions.
If there was evidence of abuse and forced rape then the man would also be killed under the law. what more could you ask in a
law ?
They were having sex and getting married at a younger age at this time. Even here in the USA, just 200 years ago girls were getting married and having families at the age of 14 years of age. It was impossible to separate the Father from the role in making important decisions for their daughters - especially when they are allowed to have sex and be married at this age. The Father was very important in the life of young daughters and HE made a decision concerning whether or not his little girl truly was telling the truth or just was having premarital sex and was allowed to protect his daughter and refuse - based on his daughter's honesty - if his daughter was being honest. And the father's decision stood as law.
Of course, there were exceptions, of course, there were bad fathers, of course, there were men who raped women and got away with it completely and of course, there were women who lied and made up stories about being raped. But this Law was set up to make sure that everyone was protected.
They did not have forensic science and DNA testing at this time. They did not have lie detector testing and cameras and cell phones and all of the things that they have today to determine the criminal and the innocent. They made laws CENTERED AROUND the mandatory penalty of FULL AUTOMATIC DEATH SENTENCE for rape - and worked around this death sentence to create a safe and moral environment that made sure that justice and honestly was equally served to all.
In America - It was not until 1861, six years after slavery was abolished, that a black woman could even file rape charges against a white man. But 4000 years ago in the Bible - the punishment for practicing slavery was the death penality and the Jews were never allowed to enslave anyone.
Rape was made a capital punishment in 1285 in England, but the courts seldom convicted people of the crime because women were perceived as
temptresses who asked for or deserved assault.
Even here in the USA - just 200 years ago - the word "rapist" wasn't referred to until the late 19th century, in reference to people being hung and lynchings.
A woman named Sylvia Patterson, who was raped by Captain James Dunn in New York City during the early 19th century was only charged with "assault with intent to seduce," - "In the end, the court convicted Dunn, but the judgment was only one dollar.
Rape was the death sentence - in the Bible - and a very horrible crime and seen as evil, horrible and wicked. But with the death penalty,
the pendulum also swung the other way and woman who lied about being raped were expected to be accountable for their false accusations and expected to marry the man. This was the moral code, to maintain order, clean living and a disease free invironment in a world where sicknesses, illness and diseases had no cures, no medications and no medical technology. Thousands of people are recorded in the Bible who died from sexually transmitted diseases.- And There was never a single incident or a single case or example of any woman being literally stoned to death in the Bible - there is not a single example of a single homosexual being stoned to death either. But the Law was set up to make sure that the rapist was hunted down and killed - all other elements in between this were subject to the reaction of the woman and her father and the community.
We even have an example in the Bible where a man was killed for raping his own sister. The Hebrew people were the only people in this area who made laws that demanded a death penalty for rape crimes.
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I can understand how a NEAR RAPE where the victim escaped and evaded their rapist could be very beneficial to the victim and other future victims, however, being raped is not beneficial for anyone except future potential victims who can be warned and directed to stay away from the area where the rapist is located.
I believe rape should be punished as it was in the Bible. Severely punishable,
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The Bible is able to be rationalized and understood by people who actually take the time to study and examine it in full details.
The Jews did not have the ability to make effective prison systems and control and protect their society from criminals with MODERN TECHNOLOGY of monitoring systems, cameras, forensic evidence, fingerprints, photos, telephones, Telegram Messaging systems, railroads in an organized network across the entire country.
The Biblical Jews did not have massive amounts of materials to make massive amounts of chains, steel bars, windows, and ventilation systems and air and water supplies for prisons and great powerful scopical binoculars, with satellites, guns and police with police water cannons and infrared sensors.
Imagine trying to control crime and managing criminal activity with no modern technology. And imagine keeping up with the criminal underworld with nothing but swords and spears and rope and twine. Rape and Slavery were punished by a FULL Automatic DEATH penalty. When someone was able to escape the death penalty after committing a slave trade crime or a rape - this was because there was lack of hard evidence and EVEN AFTER A MAN cannot be proven to have raped a woman- He was still charged for seducing a woman that he was not planning to marry and who does not want to marry him.,. He is indebted to her to pay her money until she is secure. This is how it was done when the PUNISHMENT for rape is a death penalty..
For example - I see many People who complain about only 50 shekels for raping a woman being immediately paid to the father - but just because the law of the Bible would have demanded a trillion dollar lawsuit - it does not mean that rape was not a big deal. This was a huge debt at this time - that the rapist was immediately to pay and HE fell into debt automatically. Also, the rapist was to support the woman He raped for the rest of Her life. OF COURSE - THE FATHER WOULD BE ALLOWED TO PREVENT HIS DAUGHTER FROM MARRYING A RAPIST.
One shekel of gold converted to gram equals to 11.34 g.
Exo 22:16 And if a man seduces a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife. 17 BUT If her father utterly refuses to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.
+ - You see. that the Decision to Keep a woman in marriage, was NEVER, NEVER up to the RAPIST. By Blood tradition, the RAPIST was supposed to remain married to any Virgin or Widow that he exchanged bodily fluids with. But the Decision was not His. - The Father and the victim would receive a huge and enormous large amount of money that the rapist would be indebted for - and the victim / daughter / could marry another man in the future.
Some dowries in the Bible were as big as entire cities - others were entire pieces of land and hired servants, workers, and property and gold and silver. The Rapist worked for the rest of His life until paying the settlement of the penalty for the Crime.
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Also, we see that the Trinitarian Translators have changed the word “ REVERENCE “ here in - 1Ti 2:9 it says that women are to adorn themselves in modest apparel, with “ REVERENCE “ - and Trinitarians - they CHANGE this word to say “ shame facedness “ ---
But they go ahead and translate the words to say - exactly and precisely what it means - here in - Heb 12:28 Saying ---- We serve God ... with - “ REVERENCE “ and godly fear: - --
But to the female sex - it is a “ shame facedness “ - And this is the same exact word “ REVERENCE “ - in both 1Ti 2:9 and in Heb 12:28 = αιδους G127 = αιδους G127 - in both verses. ! - - But when they come to the female sex, it all is a twisted and altered change. — because the Translation is so radically changed from the original manuscripts.
Instead of translating the word correctly as it means " reverence " - when it comes to the female sex - Trinitarian Translators change it to say - - “ shame facedness “
But they go ahead and translate the words to say - exactly and precisely what it means - here in - Heb 12:28 Saying ---- We serve God ... with - “ REVERENCE “ and godly fear: - --
But to the female sex - it is a “ shame facedness “ - And this is the same exact word “ REVERENCE “ - in both 1Ti 2:9 and in Heb 12:28 = αιδους G127 = αιδους G127 - in both verses. ! - - But when they come to the female sex, it all is a twisted and altered change. — because the Translation is so radically changed from the original manuscripts.
Instead of translating the word correctly as it means " reverence " - when it comes to the female sex - Trinitarian Translators change it to say - - “ shame facedness “
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There were a number of female prophets in the Old and New Testament.
But it was not a worldly, spontaneous and natural ability for women to travel abroad, traversing and trekking – wandering alone through the deserts, wildernesses and throughout the dangerous mobs of men, to give the prophecy of God to very many people outside of their own close circle of friends and family. There were many sexist and prejudice people with preconceived judgments and opinions and there was a whole world that was filled with abusers who raped and manipulated and even kidnapped and sexually sold women in sex trades - the moment that a woman stepped outside of their circle of protection.
Female prophets in the Bible - were always used and valued in the role of working for God by staying in the in a safe environment - and God used the MALE prophets to go around the entire countryside, across deserts, through wildernesses and on long life adventures that include all the details in entire multiple book of the Bible - and to serve with Kings and leaders in a time of war and in dangerous situations where the males usually were situated and needed - and women did not serve in these capacities.
Also, we have the situation with the Trinitarian Translators who have changed much of the Bible.
In 1Co 14:28 - it says, concerning speaking in tounges in the church - If there be no interpreter, - “ keep silence “ in the church; and speak to themselves and to God. :29 Let the prophets speak two or three and let the other judge. - :30 If anything is revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first - - “ hold their peace. “
But the original does not say “ let the first - hold his peace - “ - verse :30 literally says - let the first - “ BE SILENT. “ / No Talking. This Greek word is “ SILENCE “ ... And verse :35 is totally mistranslated - it says - And if ( the women who are directly involved ) “ “ WILL OR WOULD “ “ A CERTAIN THING.. - let them ask their husbands IN the home - for it is a shame for women to say in the church. But this is only speaking of the situation directly involving church order that ALSO involves the MALES who are also commanded to be “ SILENT “
We see that the Translators had a wide spectrum of English words to use - and to alter the message with. - And they changed the part where it commands males to be silent and changed it to say that the males are only supposed to be HOLDING THEIR PEACE. But it says for all to keep silence in the church.
The one speaking in tongues, - is to “ KEEP SILENT “ when they are finished, while the prophecy of the interpreter is being spoken - this is Greek word that is used - Silence. Mouth shut or, do not be continuing to talk or make any further audible noise - whatsoever. – This word has nothing to do with “ Holding Your peace “ in the manuscripts in any way - ever.
There is nothing about the verse about anyone “ holding their peace_” this is another total mistruth - and this was inserted into the Translation in order to mold, codify and invent a deceptive theology by adding it along - with all of the other mistranslated words – to build the Trinitarian Organized Religiosity of a total perversion and alteration whereby they insert what the Trinitarian feels INSPIRED by His perverted sexist senses and what He feels ( pretends ) it should say – while pretending that the manuscripts are saying that the Male, afterward - is supposed to simply, just “ hold His peace “ While at the same time they all of a sudden - they go over and suddenly change the very exact same Greek word for “ Quiet or / HOLDING ONES PEACE “ - and they applied this same exact word - assilence - to the Female sex / woman, and they take this word “ Quietly / Quiet “ and again they suddenly veer sharply to the left and suddenly again change or add the word “ Quietly or Quiet - to be changed to the word “ silence “ - but, for the female sex.
In other words the same exact - actual literal Greek word for “ KEEPING SILENT “ does not really truly apply when it comes to the male sex – but it only applies strictly and only - when the Trinitarian comes to the female sex.
As we see - here in - 1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in “ Quietness “ with all subjection. As the verse says - women - who are ONLY in the setting, as described - of women simply being described as ( going through the learning process ) – and are to do it quietly and peacefully. And Trinitarians, they invent a whole theology simply by changing / switching and re arranging words in deliberate dishonesty - and by inserting a theology that mandates “ ALL WOMAN “ are to remain forever in silence - when the context of 1Ti 2:11 - was specifically detailing the details of women who are learning - Let the woman learn in Quietness with all subjection. And, we easily notice - just - in just ten verses above here in 1Ti 2:2 - where it says “ that we may lead a solitary and - “ PEACEFUL “ life, in all godliness and honesty. -
They go ahead and use the word CORRECTELY translated as - - “ PEACEFUL / QUIET “ but they only use it situational, ONLY when it is not applied to the female sex. Again veering sharply to the right and suddenly radically changing this word “ PEACEFUL / QUIET “ which is the SAME exact word applied to women / females who are to commanded to be leaning in “ Quietness / PEACEFULNESS “ - with all subjection.
And they change it to say that women “ ALL WOMAN “ in all churches at all times are to be silent. No exceptions – no if’s – no and’s - and no but’s... They are switching out words and and re aranging the basic construct of the message - in order to INVENT a PRE CONCEIVED Church Doctrine that is found nowhere in the manuscripts.
In reality, in fact the entire and whole Trinitarian Translations is filled with nothing but countless switched out and transposed words - that never existed in the Original Manuscripts. This is everywhere in the translation.
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Yahoshua, in the main content of everything that he spoke, was him speaking directly to his own Hebrew people, the people of his own race and mostly to his own followers and to those who wanted to follow and continue in the traditions of the faith of their previous fathers
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As the Bible says that Yahoshua was not sent to preach and teach and minister directly to the Gentiles. - Mat 15:24 Yahoshua said = _ I am
not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. In his message, he was telling them directly of future prophetic events concerning the future that they were going to encounter in their very lifetime, Such prophecies of doom, persecution, and attacks that would befall them and how that Israel would soon be scattered and dispersed around and into the other nations. Yahoshua spoke of the temple being destroyed - saying also that such a catastrophic and terrible event was soon to happen that the Jews would be unprepared for what was about to happen. Luk 21:6 As for these things which ye behold, ( in the temple ) the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
Also we see this clear warning here in Mat 24: 15 :15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) - 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: - 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: - :18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. - :19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! - :20 But pray ye that your flight
be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: - 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
And we see that he clarifies directly - that he is not directing his messages to the Gentiles whatsoever
Mat 6:31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
Mat 6:32 ( For after all these things do the Gentiles seek : ) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you.
This was not a message of an overall philosophy or general command - that Christians are not to ever be concerned or irresponsible or unworried about what we will eat, how we will drink or be clothed. Yahoshua was not trying to get people to stop being concerned and
irresponsible about the daily necessities of life. But he was speaking of an oncoming destruction and attack that was to be
coming to his followers and telling them - The Hebrew People _- to not be concerned with the simple things in life because they will have other greater problems to deal with and he was letting them know that these little things someday soon will matter very little in comparison to the more important events that are soon to transpire and that it was mostly important to keep their focus on trusting in God.
He was never preaching or giving these messages to the Gentiles or to others who were not soon to be facing these problems - although his message was addressed to a much later set of events that were to someday transpire in Israel.
And the same goes to the future of all Christians that Yahoshua addressed who fall into this category.
Luk 21:9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by. :10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
Luk 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven. :12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. :13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony. :14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer - they cause to be put to death. :17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. :18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish. :19 In your patience possess ye your souls. :20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles, be fulfilled.
Gentiles can look and see the situation that Yahoshua was explaining and they can know in what context he was specifying in saying that we should not be concerned with the little things because there will be much greater things to worry about. Why would anyone conclude
that this has anything to do with someone living in a life where they are are not facing these horrible prophetic events. ?
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The name label and term called " Protestant " first appeared at the Diet of Speyer in 1529, when the Roman Catholic emperor of Germany, Charles V, rescinded the provision of the Diet of Speyer in 1526 that had allowed each ruler to choose whether to administer the Edict of Worms.
On April 19, 1529, a protest against this decision was read on behalf of 14 free cities of Germany. And six Lutheran princes who declared that the majority decision did not bind them because they were not a party to it and that they were forced to choose between obedience to God and obedience to Caesar.
Since then Roman Catholics have used this word to label all Non-Catholic Christians who refuse to align themselves with Roman Catholic doctrines, ideologies, theologies and faiths. - as Protestants. The word, label, and term called " Protestant " means simply " To PROTEST " Roman Catholics hold to the idea that their Organization, their Church and their faith alone is the only faith that is the correct faith.
If you notice - in the last 2000 years of Roman Catholicism - there has never been a single Non - Catholic saint. Roman Catholics will never consider a Non - Catholic _ to be called a saint _ or to enter into heaven as a saint.
In the mind of the Roman Catholic - there are no Non - Catholics Saints in heaven. Protestants also often have this same attitude toward Roman Catholics. There are many dividing lines and disagreements that exist as conflicts of faith. I used to have some Catholic friends that I worked with at my job - before I retired and they were always nice people.
But ( The Non - Catholic Christian ) Will never be a saint and will never be going to Catholic heaven - Or Accepted or Allowed to enter. After 2000 years they have clearly proven that they have never found even a single protestant Christian deserving, worthy or capable of being considered for sainthood. This concept simply does not exist. And many Protestants feel the same about Catholics. I believe that there will be Catholics in heaven and I have known many Roman Catholics who are very kind, considerate, loving and wonderful people.
The Summo Iugiter (On Mixed Marriages), Encyclical promulgated on May 27, 1832, #2 Tell that The Great Pope Gregory XVI, - Declares that "MISGUIDED PEOPLE attempt TO PERSUADE themselves and others, THAT MEN ARE NOT SAVED ONLY IN THE CATHOLIC RELIGION, but that even heretics may attain eternal life.'
and The Bull of Union with the Copts', Council of Florence, Session 11, on February 4, 1442. .... the Great Pope Eugenius IV - Declares that " All OUTSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, Jews or heretics CANNOT SHARE IN ETERNAL life and will GO INTO THE EVERLASTING FIRE, which was prepared for the devil and his angels, UNLESS THEY ARE JOINED TO THE CATHOLIC
CHURCH .There are so many, many more Statements of Popes who make Demands that one Must be a Romantic Catholic in order to be saved and to serve the SAME God. Such as - 'Heretics (those who are NOT MEMBERS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH or who DO NOT HOLD TO CATHOLIC DOCTRINE) - Worship a God WHO IS A LIAR, and a CHRIST WHO IS A LIAR.'
This is the message of the Great Catholic Father - St. Augustine, (quoted in 'Patrologiae Cursus Completus: Series Graca', by Fr. J. P. Migne, Paris: 1866, 42:207). - The lines are drawn pretty clear - of course many, many Catholics do not believe this today and they love protestants and want nothing but the best for them. But after 2000 years - the fact remains that never has a single Non - Catholic Christian ever been allowed to be considered as a saint. This is pretty much set in stone in the foundation of pure Catholic theology and faith. But the term Protestant was a label that was attached or castigated onto Non-Catholic Christians, by Catholics at the time of the 15 th century
reformation, where Non-Catholics sought to translate the Bible into another language other than _ or outside of the Latin language.
almighty God - by rejecting the faith of The Roman Pontiffs. Roman Catholics are very historically firm in their faith.
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I agree with anyone here who hold to the fact that the Bible does not say that Demons " fallen angels " were taking on a form of humanity and having relations with the daughters of mankind. But i would like to hear what others have to say about it. - This is what I believe.
These scriptural passages making this claim are found in Apocrypha Books that are also so filled with errors
It is mainly Trinitarians who teach this doctrine usually quoting from the Book of Job - quoting -= Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy. REMEMBER the phrases = Morningstar, Son of the morning And Rising in the morning. ?
In the Bible, the three terms and many, many, many " MORNING STAR " and " son of the morning “ and “ rising in the morning " and " MORNING STAGE TERMS " are simply the SYMBOLIC allegoric meaning of the character and denotation and the illustration of the symbolic meaning. Meaning = To own or to control or dominate the early morning dawn of a history timeline or time - frame " context " - or to have dominion at the beginning or start or originate or " be born " in the onset of a beginning time. The dawn has a symbolic meaning of the first appearance of light in the sky before sunrise. "the new pink rose light of dawn" daybreak, sunrise, first light, daylight;
The meaning also means To begin, break, arrive, emerge or come into existence. "A new era or the beginning of a phenomenon or period of time, especially one considered favorable, dominating, controlling or first or primary control .... MORNING STAR " or " son of the morning Means The Origins of a primary, early or firstly originating place or eXistance. Having, obtaining owning and or eXisting as { BEING } “ The morning star “ or being “The a son of the morning “ or “ rising in the morning " simply means to eXist at the beginning of a period or to possess a possession of rightfulness as of that at the first or original right of power. We see this is the eXact meaning in other verse where these “ MORNING “ eXpressive phrases are used..
There are many hundreds of these eXact type of symbolic words that define momentous events and periods of time that are called " THE MORNING. " As - - The DAWNING OF THE AGE. These type of " MORNING " symbolic terms. are .... " 1. rising in the morning " - 2. morning star- " - and - " - 3. son of the morning.
Many other denominational Translators have literally stamped this idea - that fallen angels are literally The Sons of God directly into their teachings - as they take Hebrew code words such as the word for Giant meaning " Nephʹi·lim " and drag it into an English Translation, The word Nephʹi·lim is a TITLE or a NAME that many have associated this very idea that Demons were mating with women,. The Jehovah Witness Translators use the Hebrew word Nephʹi·lim - in their Translation in Gen_6:4 4 = The Nephʹi·lim* were on the earth in those days also here in Num 13:33 = And there we saw the Nephʹi·lim, the sons of Aʹnak. This is why translators
Also, Origen was a major Roman Catholic Father of Trinitarian theology who also taught that the angels fell and became human and that men and demons both can again become angels. Origen was the first Christian to speak of three “hypostases” in the Trinity.
Also Roman Catholic Trinitarians such as (St. Clement of Alexandria, St. Ambrose of Milan also taught that - The giants were born from angels uniting to mortal women. Other Trinitarian Fathers who invented and molded this teaching were Catholic Trinitarian Fathers such as - Justin Martyr, Tertullian, Irenaeus, Athenagoras, and Commodianus. Also, the Roman Catholic Father = Julius Africanus was another Church Father who taught this. Also In various copies of the Septuagint, the word "angels" is substituted for the " SONS OF GOD " found in the book of Job - this is found in such manuscripts of " Codex Alexandrinus "
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The book of Leviticus details the violent, evil behaviors of the neighbors of the Israelites who were allied against Israel and attacking them. We have multiple cities of terrorists who do nothing but evil, violence and they defile, rape and terrorize everything around them – burning their little children in the fire, the land is filled with terrorists whose entire cities are filled with people who are committed to destroying and raping and terrorizing, exterminating and murdering and waging a terrorist war and campaign upon { Israel. } - And Israel is trying to be peaceful and respectful.
We could look and see what The United States had to do when hit hard with massive attacks such as in WW ll – They would find that America killed millions of woman and children far exceeding any women and children that the Israelites were also forced to kill.
Killing the women and children was the last resort ( A FINAL EFFECT OF GENERATIONAL WAR ) and the only solution that the Israelites had after 400 years of being attacked, terrorized, assailed and physically, violently assaulted and enslaved and butchered by their surrounding neighbors.
The Bible explains all that the Amalekites and their neighbors had done and who they were - and why The Israelites were forced to completely end their reign of terror that had lasted for 500 years of nothing but attacks and violence upon the Israelites as these enemies determined to exterminate them and destroy them. This defense was the only possible chance of survival that the Israelites had as they were surrounded and attacked from all sides and greatly, greatly outnumbered – by the most violent, brutal, evil, perverted and cruel people that have ever been known to have existed.
The Bible clarifies how that the Israelites were attacked without mercy by all of their neighbors. As, from the very beginning – as they attacked them from the rear and their weak and old and sick and their women and children were being slaughtered.
The war was literally – against entire cities whose children and populations and civilizations were raised, trained and programmed to do nothing but attack and kill the Israelites created no other choice but to survive and destroying entire cities women and children of their enemies was the only way to survive and for their own Israeli children to have a future. The Bible is very, very clear. Their NEIGHBORS / enemies outnumbered them and were determined to exterminating them. The only choice that the Israelites had was to exterminate them before they themselves were exterminated. The United States also, in its effort to survive and save the lives of Americans – also was forced to bomb entire cities, killing millions of innocent civilians. The Israelites had no borders to protect them – no walls – no great bodies of oceans, seas – and waters or barriers to protect them. It was like having an eternal demonic civilization of violent, bloodthirsty beasts living – breeding and planning to kill You and Your family – living on Your front and back doorstep. –
Every move You or Your family makes to survive – is an eternal bloodbath and an
eternal attack. No matter how You try to live in peace- They only exist, breed and raise children only – to exterminate, torture, persecute and kill You.
Abraham and His family were already being attacked and kidnapped and by these people hundreds of years when they lived in this area. – these attacks went on for hundreds of years and for many, many generations. The Jews faced the only choice that that had – Kill Your enemy and the children that are being raised, trained and born for the sole and only purpose to kill You and Your family – or allow them to multiply – and achieve their goals – to exterminate and kill You and Your family. my Also friends, there is no commandment that allows rape in the Bible -
I could easily explain the details of what the Bible actually says about this and you would find that you simply have no scriptures for your faith and your claims. If you take the time to read the actual details – you will find that the punishment for rape and slavery was the death penalty. Mandatory - A Full Automatic – death penalty for all rape and slavery. The Bible is very clear. I believe that you are very wrong and mistaken to make these claims.
I respectfully am trying to explain what the Bible says and I honorably ask that you please reconsider your accusations against the Bible and read the details instead of focusing in on single passages and ignoring the rest of the details. There are simply no scriptures that support your faith.
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I believe that if You were to read the Bible in full context you would not be making the claims that you are making. And you would see that the Bible does not support your faith or claims.
Why were the Israelites slaughtering and killing whole cities of women and children. ?
The Bible explains clearly that the Israelites had been in a war with these people for nearly five hundred years. For nearly 500 years the entire existence and relationship of the surrounding nations were violently attacking Abraham and his family.
This is explained in Gen 14:1 - - :1 Amraphel king of Shinar, Arioch king of Ellasar, Chedorlaomer king of Elam, and Tidal the king of nations had attacked and made war against the region where Abraham lived and Abrahams brother “Lot “ had been kidnapped and taken captive.
And God explained to Abraham in - Gen 15:13 that his seed would come to someday be a stranger in another land that is not theirs, and shall become slaves and will be afflicted four hundred years; - :14 And ...afterward his seed would come out of that land with great substance.
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16 But in the fourth generation they shall come to live here again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
After Abrahams seed were eventually enslaved in Egypt and they had escaped from Egypt, Moses was trying to lead them back to this very place where Abraham had previously lived 400 years ago.
Moses was trying to bring the Hebrews through the territory and lands of the Edomites because they had to pass through this area to get to where they were going. We find the details of what they went through here in Num 20:14
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14 And Moses sent messengers from Kadesh unto the king of Edom, Thus saith thy brother Israel, Thou knowest all the travail that hath befallen us:
:17 Let us pass, I pray thee, through thy country: we will not pass through the fields, or through the vineyards, neither will we drink of the water of the wells: we will go by the king's high way, we will not turn to the right hand nor to the left, until we have passed thy borders.
:18 And Edom said unto him, Thou shalt not pass by me, lest I come out against thee with the sword.
Num 20:19 And the children of Israel said unto him, We will go by the high way: and if I and my cattle drink of thy water, then I will pay for it: I will only, without doing any thing else, go through on my feet.
:20 And the Edomites said, Thou shalt not go through. And Edom came out against him with much people, and with a strong hand. :21 Thus Edom refused to give Israel passage through his border: wherefore Israel turned away from him.
The Hebrews did not seek war and violence with these people, they were very peaceful, respectful and considerate people who were trying to pass through the areas that they needed to pass through to get back to their homeland.
And they found themselves forced in the region and territory of the Amalekites they had to also pass through Amalek to get where they were going and – Deu 25:18 explains what they went through :18 Amalek met them by the way and smote the hindmost of them, even all that were feeble behind them, when they were faint and weary.
The Amelikites attacked the Hebrews for no reason whatsoever - other than the mere fact that they were forced to pass through their region and territory { lands ) - - And here Deu 12:30 – it explains that when the Israelites were traveling – out of Egypt; and passing PEACEFULLY near the territory of The Amalekites – that The Amalekites attacked and murdered - the weak, feeble, tired, old men and woman and children who were at the very rear / back end of the traveling procession, as the Israelites were traveling – The Amalekites attacked in a surprise attack – and they and killed / murdered the faint and weary Hebrew travelers who were at the rear of them – and since that day the Amalekites continually attacked them with terrorist attacks while gathering other surrounding nations together to attack the Hebrews and exterminate them,
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The idea of the literal Biblical concept of Satan - originally means the term meaning = " the adversary " directly in the Hebrew language.
RationalMadman does have a point about the meaning of the word = Satan / - in that this word " the adversary " is also a term / word
that is also applied to God and his angels as being also - withstanding and as adversaries or as a Satan to wicked or people on earth doing wrong.
Num 22:32 And the angel of the LORD { withstood / was Satan } unto you, because your way is perverse before God: - this Hebrew word " withstood " is the Hebrew word " Satan "
Num 22:22 The LORD stood in the way for an { adversary / a Satan } against him. Now he was riding upon his ass, and his two servants were with him.
1Sa_29:4 And the princes of the Philistines were worried that King David would be an { adversary / Satan } to them once the battle had
began also these following verses use the word " Satan " to also mean the word { adversary }
2Sa_19:22 - 1 Ki_5:4 - 1Ki_11:14 - 1Ki_11:23 just as it is here also in - 1st Ki_11:25 The king of Zobah was an adversary / Satan - to Israel.
Eventually, this Hebrew word " Satan " takes on a spiritual meaning to apply to both the spiritual and the physical worlds. Man is seen
as satan - Gods angels are also seen as satan - and also the evil spirits of the fallen angels are depicted as satan as well. But eventually, this word becomes the totality of only being defined as a spiritual understanding of the spiritual battle between the fallen angels and God and man.
As the process of the Bible is being written it becomes the literal TITLE and NAME of the spiritual force of demonic power that is causing
man / humanity to fail and destroy themselves and its meaning loses and drops the physical meaning of man being defined as Satan to one another in the Bible as it goes forward into the proceeding of the BIbles future history - and it also loses and drops the idea of Gods angels being defined as Satan to punish or withstand the actions of bad actors and bad people who the Angels are performing actions against evil individuals of mankind.
After the verse in 1Ki_11:25 the term only allies to the demonic forces of the fallen angels and no longer is defined or used as it was used before when calling Gods Angels and human beings as { adversaries } by using the Hebrew word Satan.
We find that another word is used and Satan is no longer used to mean anything but = meaning the devil or
spiritual demon force.
The Hebrew word for adversaries between humans, becomes The Hebrew word = H6862 - צָר - tsar - tsâr - Meaning = To trouble,) - adversary, afflicting, anguish, distress, enemy, strait, and tribulation. And Satan is never again applied to God or mankind after 1Ki_11:25.
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