janesix

There is no such thing as "undesigned". 

weasel

I didn't claim that.

who is the "I" in "I don't know"?

discovered

you have to exist in order to be experiencing something, right? so you must believe you exist.

"Firstly I do not claim to know if I exist or not." 

ok, i thought you did. so, what DO you believe? Anything?

"Secondly no I'm not really comfortable with that but I'm not sure what my comfort level has to do with what I believe."

It has nothing to do with it. I was just curious. is that ok? 

so you only believe in your own existence. Are you comfortable with that?

Sure, why not? he created reality.

so, nothing would really convince you.

verifiable in what way?

what would be "proof" of God to you?

To prove you aren't full of sht, duh

"Of course the first question is did the bible Jesus ever exist, and every credible historian will say no."

I would like to see your list of every credible historian, please.

you made the claim. put up or shut up

show me your credible historians

He will wriggle and wriggle, but never admit to the fact he wrote something he can't back up. That's Bully for ya.

How do you know they haven't?They could be doin sht all the time.

cosmology is in it's infancy. we have no idea.

Is polarity a necessary part of existance? Male/female, creation/desruction etc. 

I am

yes sort of

they have to convolute themselves to believe that silly nonsense

random mutation and natural selection? 

So there was a "conscience" mutation that happened lol

I've read his explaination, and it is just a cobbled together just-so story. 

design is design.

I don't doubt you don't agree.

How did our conscience "evolve"?

>>We are given the gift of conscience by God. That's how we can try to determine right from wrong. I think this is the main reason why we are here. God wanted to create others, and he gave us a moral compass to help us in determining write and wrong. It isn't black and white,at least to us. It may be to God. 

Are we including the ownership of animals under the heading of slavery? Why or why not?

>>Maybe, I haven't thought that much about it. My gut instinct is that it is wrong. For instance I feel a bit guilty about keeping my dog in the house when I know she would rather roam free. And I'm not sure about eating animals. I have a gut feeling that is wrong as well. 

PS just wanted to say I love talking to you glad we both found the site.

>> me too. it's nice to keep the old ddo gang together

Dawkins wrote: “Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose"

"Then why do human morals evolve and change based on the whims of a society? "

>>Because humans are immoral. They chose to make thier own rules that goes against true morals. 

"Indeed why do so many people throughout history who claim that their morals come directly from a god disagree about what is and is not moral?"

>>Same as above. 

"Do you feel that your societies laws are more or less moral than the laws of theocracies from the past? For example the laws of Spain between, I don't know, let's say between 1478 and 1834."

>> I don't know wha the laws of spain were back then. As for todays American values, there is both good and bad. Good as in no slavery etc, bad as in abortion is OK and legal. 

Humans have no problem eating just about anything. What is the reason humans love the taste of meat and are drawn to it?

This is a very casual affair. There will be a spitted pig and beer lol

thanks for the suggestions

I'm not sure about anything. But I beleive that morals are universal, and come from God ultimately

I would go insane. Wait....

homeschool is great, as long as there are social activities with other kids. like karate classes 

I've never had it. how do you prepare it?

I make pretty good potato salad

Thanks for the suggestion:)

Probably. 

I don't know. To bring it out in the open maybe. I am only guessing. So I can do my shadow work.

I had feelings of guilt and regret. So my own I would guess.

There is no way to describe it. How do you describe a state of consciousness?

He put me into a different state of consciousness, which lasted eight hours. I am grateful for my experience. it wasn't malicious. 

I am invited to a bbq next month, and i need an idea of a side dish to bring. If I can't think of anything else, i will bring fruit salad. I am looking for vegetarian or vegan options. 

From an experience I had. I am certain God was showing me everything I did wrong. 

ok thanks

Are there notifications? Am i missing it?

who has any poetry to share? I remember there were at least a few poets on ddo.

me too

I am not sure what I believe, other than in a personal God who cares about our moral behavior. God is probably the creator as well.