revivedmuse

Okay so I'm in Hanoi for a student Model United Nations right now, and of course that means Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un are also here for a summit. What's more, my research topic is on denuclearization/nuclear control... which is the crux of the summit hqqwhejkwqhek

Anyway so I just wanted to ask you guys for feedback on my resolution (lobbying starts tomorrow) so if there are any changes I need to make please let me know :) It's difficult to elaborate much on the justifications for some of the statements made here even in the pre-ambulatory clauses because of the nature of a resolution

(Btw I did this while keeping updated on the summit so if I got shady in some sub-clauses please forgive me lol)

1) “entire culture of men” again, the only people who do this are feminazis and misandrists. No one else is defining the very notion of being male to be sexist. Saying “men are trash” for instance isn’t literal (made clear many times) and just isn’t oppressive especially in comparison to the grand scheme of things, like, say, the disproportionate likelihood for women in the U.S. to be raped than men (1 in 5 to 1 in 71 respectively (!!!)) [https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics]. Even knowing this, no one needs this repetitive “not all men” rhetoric because it merely states the obvious without presenting a unique motive that people haven’t heard or understood. It kind of sounds like gaslighting to me but I’m not sure

2) Is/ought fallacy. Just because a pay difference is normal or the status quo doesn’t mean that disparity ought to exist. Granted, that disparity has narrowed [http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/04/09/gender-pay-gap-facts/] but it still persists, and it’s insufficient to justify keeping that inequality just because it’s normal or the difference is small. 

By the way, I personally haven’t heard of companies that discriminate against men by pay (I could be ill-informed) so could you provide examples? (Note you would have to provide enough to show such a trend is significant enough for your statement to hold that much substance)

3) So what are you trying to achieve here with this statement? If you’re discussing anti-discriminatory laws, we could cross-apply your argument to every single existing law and derive the premises:

1) Laws exist,

2) But so does crime, or acts against laws

C) Therefore, laws are useless and should be repealed???

If you’re talking about giving them rights in general - even completely disregarding the 2015 legalization of same-sex marriage across the U.S. which is an immense milestone by itself, the implementation of pro-LGBT+ laws have been effective in assisting in normalizing them and integrating them into society as equal human beings. The point is, there is more that can be done in terms of social treatment and perception of these people, and it is simply naive to assert that such movements are useless when they are clearly not lol. Even then, no one is saying that people against the community will becompletely eradicated or something. No one actually thinks that’s gonna happen. Social improvement/activism isn’t mutually exclusive with people against LGBT+ people.

4) Impeached, sorry. My argument still stands.

5) Again, you’re trying to baselessly attribute an extremist belief or statement to a non-extremist group. Feminism is not synonymous with misandry.

6) Are you just blame-shiftingnow? Do you realize how nonsensical it is to blame feminists for YOUR OWN bias about them lmao. You’re the one with the skewed perception of them, after all.

This post is ignorant and/or horribly misguided for a multitude of reasons.

1) This is a baseless assertion. On the contrary, there are a variety of statistics that motivate the UN itself to treat gender equality for women and girls as a Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) [https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/gender-equality/]. I’m not sure if you’re referring to the situation in the U.S. alone (where the severity is reduced but still existent in some form) but as of now, the notion of women being treated equally to men is not... actually...... well anyway

2) I don’t know whether or not women getting paid less is actually true, but what I do know is that calling for equal pay between men and women depending on field of employment =/= communism lskdjjdjdjdjdk

3) Irrelevant lol, but simply implementing LGBT+ protective laws is not equivalent to or fully sufficient for social equality (assuming LGBTQ+ rights/treatment is what you meant by ‘it’, as in laws making ‘it’ legal)

4) Not even specific to feminism. “It will never happen” will never sound like an actual argument on why Trump ought not to be reelected no matter how many times it’s repeated.

5) No one means this literally unless it comes from an extreme misandrist or feminazi. Even then it’s not fully incorrect to believe they somewhat correlate given the white male dominated, supremacist nature of (Western) history and its lasting effects. 

6) Even disregarding the fact that this is purely irrelevant just as it is false, I find it quite disturbing that you’re so adamant on painting this pitifully misguided image of extremism onto feminism from your biases.

I don’t know why I decided to spend time responding to this

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Eh I don't know lol, I like to think I've made massive improvement from the basic argumentative/articulatory skills I had during my time on DDO but I feel like my reasoning and thinking skills are still a bit rigid rather than strategic or flexible. I hope to improve to the point that I feel confident enough to debate more though, so thank you for the motivation :)

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I'm revivedmuse, previously BLAHthedebator on DDO. Some of y'all have met me before - hopefully my cringeworthiness back then hasn't been so memorable

I know the specific question asks for the actual moment DDO died but I wasn't there to witness it so I'll just say either the mobile update or the FF glitch because either/both of those were pretty clear signs of imminent degression