sadolite

What studies show that teaching kids to read, write, do math and  basic life skills  don't work.?

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No matter what  situation that needs to be fixed, those not involved with fixing it will always call what anybody does to try and fix it to extreme. In other words you don't want it fixed.

I love the baseless extrapolations about my views on the education system based on things I never said LOL. Hell ya'll go so far as to say my son wants to quit school and an idiot. This just proves my point about what I said about personal attacks and already losing the debate. I never said that nor implied that. You are just angst because I am criticizing the current education system. You cant stand that your opinions of it are not coming out of my mouth. Pretty much like the teachers in the current education system. I am met with unfounded personal attacks, typical, but no worries dime a dozen BS.

Where  is the common sense in making healthy people wear masks? If there is common sense in it then healthy people should wear them all the time for the rest of their lives. There will always be deadly virus's, always have been always will be. What if there is a deadly virus going around and you don't know it? Better to make everyone wear masks forever to stop any spread of future virus's. Better safe than sorry, right?

Then why bother with school, just look it up, what ever you want to learn is on google. You can learn to read, write, do math, anything, Schools is a waste of money, "essentially nothing more than  giant day care centers.  " That's a quote from my 16 year old son who attends his day care center.  He learns nothing there except indoctrinated political propaganda. You should have seen the look on his face when I told him he can reject everything his teachers say and not believe a word of it. He knew it was bullshit anyway. I just confirmed it by telling him he has a right to his own views and opinions and any teacher or student that attacks him for doing so cant defend their own views intellectually but rather resort to personal attacks and bullying. I said to him he already won the debate when that happens. Only indoctrinated dullards do that.

Pregnancy with the exception of rape or incest is self inflicted , pregnancy is a matter of personal responsibility and personal choice. And a woman can get an abortion. I however am not sick and I am still forced to wear a mask. It doesn't even have to be proved that I am a danger to anyone.  Yet I am forced to wear a mask. I hate wearing a mask, I despise it more than just about anything on earth.  I hate wearing a mask almost as much as I hate rapists, pedophiles and murderers.

Two things, I am not in the finance business and your arrogance that anyone who doesn't show interest in sports is lazy.  I hated sports in the traditional sense, I did other physical activities not related to sports such as mow lawns when I was a kid and my current job is non stop on my feet all day outside with heavy lifting and so do millions of other people. Sports is entertainment and nothing more.

The fact still remains that all of the lock downs and tyranny have had no better results.

I find it interesting that there are dozens of other things you are more likely to die from than covid 19 that you don't even give a second thought to. You could have just as easily died from swine flu or H1N1  or any number of viruses. Yet you did nothing to protect yourself from those. Why is that? If you were intellectually honest you would admit all your fears about covid 19 are all manufactured by a never ending media propaganda machine. If the media had said nothing you wouldn't even be aware of covid 19 and would not made a single change in your life. You are afraid of covid 19 because your TV and social media tells you to be. When one puts the numbers into perspective with past viruses and death tolls nothing that we are being forced to do is even remotely justified.

You notice how the news media has totally blacked out Sweden. No masks, no lock downs, let the people decide what precautions they want to take. Covid cases and deaths no different than other countries going full on Nazi, gestapo lock downs and arresting the non compliant freedom lovers and financially destroying countless million of lives for nothing.

That is a 10 million population sampling and proves all this govt tyranny is a load of just that, tyranny. And all of you who comply do it only because your television tells you to. You are brain dead sheep.

Really? You think I am including learning to read and write as a form of "art"? Don't be so willfully and intellectually dishonest. You and everyone else knows what the hell I am talking about.

Civilians are expendable, they are not even a consideration when you want to win a war. Sucks to be a civilian in a war. Better to choose sides and fight.

2024 Civil War in the US, communists and socialists will unite and attempt to oppress everyone with a totalitarian govt but will underestimate those who they look down on and condescend to the most and will be slaughtered like pigs. US will cease all military aid and protection to European countries and will all become Muslim caliphates. 

The two subjects are not still there. Sports and arts need to be deleted and Shop and home economics need to be brought back. These classes teach real world, useful, absolute need skills. No one needs art and no one needs to play sports. 

They deleted shop class and Home economics. Two far more useful and necessary classes. They actually taught things in those classes that every single person on earth needs to know. But we cant teach things to kids that they need to know to literally survive. We have to teach them useless crap like how to play the flute of which 99.999% will never play again  in their life. Or how to make a ugly ass clay coffee cup that no one will use. And then we will award them with participation trophies or ribbons for trying and failing.

Every single thing I learned in shop class I use nearly every single day. Shop class taught me more about how to live and succeed than all the other classes combined in my entire time in school. That one class by itself. That class and what I learned has literally saved me tens of thousands of dollars in my life time by not paying other people to do things I can do myself because of the skills I learned in that class.

Why not? There are things in life every single person has to know to be able to earn money and support themselves. That is what schools are supposed to be for. Not cater to individual whims and desires. 

Given everything you have seen on the news , the idea that there are still people arguing for gun bans baffles the mind. It has been clearly demonstrated you are completely on your own when it comes to protecting yourself and property. The police will do nothing.

He ain't to bad for a hair lip.

Welcome to the real world LOL

Schools shouldn't  fund either of them. You are there to learn to read, write, do math and possibly learn some skill that will allow you to earn a living. Color, play musical instruments and play games on your own time and your own dime.

Realist am I, study of history I do.  Learn from it I have.

You gave many great and effective examples of tools used to win wars. "This day and age" Absolutely nothing has changed, the thirst for domination power and control is as prevalent as ever.  You live a sheltered life and take it for granted totally and completely.  Good men  on a daily bases do horrible and horrendous things to other people everyday so you can live a sheltered  life.

So... everyone nuking each other is a good outcome?

Ya that would be a loser for sure, taking anything off the table is signaling and telling the enemy of your weakness.

Oh Ok if you say so. You googled a source So I guess that proves every word wrong. Just remember we get are information from the same place.

Your assumption that the only way to win a war is using nukes is highly flawed and naive. Imposing rules of engagement loses wars. Telling soldiers they cant attack until some bureaucratic ass wipe not even in the war gives the go ahead. Almost all wars can be won without using nukes. If you want to decisively win a war with minimum casualties on both sides you must do theses things: First  you take out all infrastructure immediately and without warning of any kind >>> Damns, bridges, factories, roads, hospitals anything that can aid their war effort and their military forces. This will end in victory in 95%of all cases.  Second if that doesn't work, start  killing  the civilian population next by say 1000 a day then ramp it up after a week or so to 5 or 10 thousand a day . This will demoralize the civilian population and cause it to lose support for the war. The dumbest thing to do is to attack their military head on at first and give ultimatums, that will just get you killed. You kill all supply chains and aid to their military first, then  demoralize the civilian population, then you attack their military forces.  Nukes are nothing more than a deterrent to use nukes. they in no way stop wars from happening  nor do they ever decide a victor as can plainly be demonstrated as none have ever been used since WW2. The only reason they worked then was because we were the only country to have them. Now they are everywhere but mutually assured destruction prevents their use. They in no way prevent wars. I would like to add that wars between countries who both have nukes are still fought. They are called Proxy wars. A proxy war is where a country like Russia supports a country like Iran or Iraq with weapons and aid to fight us without actually having a presence thus being able to claim they are not in the war. Sweden did this during WW2 they weren't in the war but provided aid to both sides in the form of military weapons. Sweden was basically a traitor to the whole wold during WW2.

 

 Nukes were deployed right after they were tested and proven to work. We won WW2.  Which war are you talking about? Vietnam Korea? Ya we lost those wars. Rules of engagement lost those wars.

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Seems to me that if you are paying your own bills, taking care of your self and not breaking the law no one can say shit no matter how fucked up you are. Just saying. Take me for example. I am as anti social and socially  offensive  as they come.

I have no convincing argument to suggest that minimum wage should not be 0. Minimum wage workers owe me money for all the shit they fuck up.

There are no rules in war if you want to win.

I lose lots of debates, so what. I had lots of debates on the other site. I just don't have the time to commit to doing them anymore. I make no attempts to hide that fact. My favorite types of debates are the ones that are unwinnable in the court of public opinion. Gay marriage, climate change etc.

Exactly, thus trying to hide his previous debate record. Which he stated he was doing so for that exact purpose earlier in the thread. 

That isn't what I said. I said there isn't a single mask manufacturer that endorses the claim that masks that don't filter covid 19 are effective at stopping the spread of covid 19.

"he states that if all governments cease to exist, humanity would carry on just fine with out them. " I "believe" this to be half true. Only people who can handle the huge burden of personal responsibility that comes with being free of govt would fair well in a world without govt.  It is my opinion that freedom doesn't work for 90% of people. They cant cope with the idea that everything in life and everything that happens to them is their own personal responsibility to deal with. They cant fathom not having someone  to bail them out when they make horrible life choices and having someone to blame for their lot in life.  Freedom isn't for everyone, it's only for the rare and  few rugged individualists who ask nothing from no one, and have a code of honor among men that shall never be broken lest ye die for doing so. Those are the only kind of people that could live without govt. 

"he states that if all governments cease to exist, humanity would carry on just fine with out them. " I "believe" this to be half true. Only people who can handle the huge burden of personal responsibility that comes with being free of govt would fair well in a world without govt.  It is my opinion that freedom doesn't work for 90% of people. They cant cope with the idea that everything in life and everything that happens to them is their own personal responsibility to deal with. They cant fathom not having someone  to bail them out when they make horrible life choices and having someone to blame for their lot in life.  Freedom isn't for everyone, it's only for the rare and  few rugged individualists who ask nothing from no one, and have a code of honor among men that shall never be broken lest ye die for doing so. Those are the only kind of people that could live without govt. 

What you "believe" ? That was a fast exit from "the truth" The only truth I know is what I don't like and do like. I wouldn't put much faith on anything outside of that. But that's just me. I've  heard nine versions of everything on every subject.  As far as what I believe about any kind of govt or fiscal policy not working, pretty much the same for all, a complete and total failure to enforce the rule of law and a total failure to severely punish those who break the law.

Um. are you aware of all the words in this entire thread about how you changed your account to get rid of your debate record? HIDE IT

Nothing to prove wrong, you hate Trump, so what? People hate you, so what?

Is that the truth? Would you swear your eyes on it.

How is that relevant to your  desire to hide lost debates and mislead people? I am making  no false representations, you are.

I didn't look at anti mask forums, I looked at mask manufacture websites. Ant- mask forums just like pro mask forums are nothing but disinformation propaganda, Pseudoscience  science BS.

Irrelevant, you are as old as you are. Disease and looks have nothing to do with it. It's a very simple concept> date of birth+ seconds, hours, weeks  months and years  you have been alive since that date of birth is your age. Anything else is argument for the sake of argument

You are only lying to yourself by closing your account and crating a new one because you lost debates. Nothing has changed you still lost those debates and any new debate  record under your new profile record is a lie. You are still the same person that lost debates.  What, you think you are some how going to do better now? Whats changed? Your profile is now one big phony lie.

Your age is your age, there is no I'm not really this age. 

After exhaustive research into how masks are made and how they work or don't work,  what they can and cant filter the dangers of wearing masks for prolonged periods day in and day out,  My answer is a resounding no. The negatives of wearing them far out weigh any positive. Masks being worn to prevent a virus that in no way is designed to filter a virus is nothing more than a placebo for the mind. It protects you if you think it does. Wear one if you want, you cant afford to wear the ones that actually do filter corona virus. Well maybe some of you can.   Oh and please spare me your links to the CDC saying they work. My information comes strait from the horses mouth. Mask manufactures. NOT ONE OF THEM ENDORSES THE CDC's  CLAIMS ABOUT WEARING MASKS AND THEIR EFFECTIVENESS other than those masks specifically designed to filter viruses which you cant really buy without a good connection.

It's kinda funny to think we all get are information from the same damn place.  First hand eyewitness on site verification is the only objective truth you will find in this world. You sure as hell wont find it on the internet. Well as far as politics history and social issues are concerned. How to fix shit videos on you tube are pretty accurate although you do see some real hack job solutions, but they are solutions none the less.

Yes the "truth" There is no such thing anymore.