secularmerlin

(I'll wait for your wolf hunters) be careful Snerp.

I'm not the stealthiest so I don't want to give you away.

I guess I stay with Snerp so he isn't alone if there is trouble.

Roberts is taking the horse back to the vistani isn't he?

Doesn't matter since I totally get the point.

Ok well let's go see about silver weapons

So our plan is to find your hirelings and see if they can track the coffin maker? Let's get on it.

I have eldrich blast and guided bolt and spiritual weapon I don't really need a weapon

I thought you said I have nondetection and speak with dead but on my sheet I see water walking and tongues.

I thought about an arcane trickster bugbear but I'm pretty fond of Eikka as is.

So you believe that in this context righteous is a synonym for factually correct? How does one rejoice and workers factually correct?

What does it mean for all our factual correctness to be as dirty rags?

I only believe that astronauts are or have been in space if my perception accurately reflect reality. I do not so much believe as accept as a convenience. I don't have faith I have reasonable expectations based on past experience.

Is it possible to believe that there is life outside our solar system just because you have faith there is?

Okay let me be more precise still. Is it possible to believe that there is life outside our solar system just because you have faith there is?

Ive already been calling it DART.

This constitutes a claim not evidence. Unless you can demonstrate that reality can prepare things, cares about anything, cares about righteousness (whatever that means to you), cares about iniquity (whatever that means to you), prepares things, has ways, has a face, can hide that face, consumes people, is our father, can work and that we are one such work (and that is only the claims about reality in your quote so you would have some claims to support about people too) I have no reason to accept this string if claims.

I mean the observable physical universe. Anything beyond that is unobservable and therefore beyond our understanding by definition.

They are observed by the opinion holder and by any observer the opinion holder shares their opinions with. That does not change the fact that without the opinion holder there is no opinion to be observed.

Explain all you like but without proof of this necessity I may be unable to believe that.

This is based on I think therefore I am. It is probable that my awareness implies some reality on some level even if all I am aware of is a convincing and persistent illusion. Honestly even that is not a certainty.

Allow me to be more precise. Is it possible to believe in extraterrestrial life just because you have faith that it exists?

It is because we do not know if reality is cognizant but you continue to make claims about reality that would require cognizance. The quote you provided may not be yours but in offering it I would consider it a claim on your part and so you have shouldered a burden if proof. Specifically this claim is that reality judges humans to all be equally wise and or foolish. Until you can demonstrate that reality makes judgements and specifically that one of those judgements is that humans are equally wise and or foolish this is an unsubstantiated claim.

I agree that it is probable that some noumanal reality exists. If you choose to call this noumena god then you may but that dies not change what that reality ends up being or tell us anything about what it indeed is.

I'm not sure you understand my question.

Perhaps if I reword it.

Is it possible to believe in aliens just because you have faith that they exist?

That is not what I asked. Allow me to restate my question for your convenience.

Is there any position that cannot be held based on faith?

Some statements are true some statements are false and some statements are about subjective values and are only true or false from a given point of view. The difficulty is in tellingbthe three kinds of statements apart and you have given no indication that you are in any way an authority on the subject. As a matter of fact the only statements you have made that do not still need to be demonstrated are to the effect of "only real things exist" or "reality is real". Statements of this nature are tautologies and so add nothing to our discussion. Equality is a subjective value and you have not demonstrated to me that god/reality can make subjective judgements or what those judgements would be or what they might be based on and so Einstein's quote (if it was not apocryphally attributed to him) is unsubstantiated. We do not know if it is true false or inapplicable. 

Is there anything one cannot believe on Faith?

That is an unsubstantiated claim. We do not know if it is true false or inapplicable. 

Faith can lead equally to contradictory beliefs. I could as easily believe in Vishnu, Allah, Yahweh or the flying spaghetti monster based on faith. If faith can lead equally to truth and untruth how can we possibly consider faith to be a good pathway to truth?

How does one come to know anything reliably through unreality? Unless you can explain this I have no choice but to consider it nonsense. If all one can know is unreality then one can know nothing. Under such circumstances one cannot even know when one farts.

"The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step"

"Wherever you go there you are"

"If it is not The Ultimate Reality, it is ultimately unreal."

These statements don't actually mean anything or impart any information. While tautalogically true they do not add value to a discussion.

Allow me another quote. "Those who wish to appear wise among fools, among the wise seem foolish." 

If I understand what you are saying it amounts to "it is what it is" which isn't really saying anything. The statement "some reality exists" tells us literally nothing about that reality. If that is all you can know then all of your claims about reality other than that it exists at all can be dismissed which rather undercuts any value you might have as a teacher. Why do you claim to have things to teach people if literally the only thing that can be known is an obviously apparent tautology?

Could you perhaps explain that in greater detail?

Then how can we ever know any truth whatever?

But as you have said an image of god/reality is not god/reality. So what you are really saying unless I misunderstand you is that we can never know gid/reality. I'm sorry but that renders any claim about reality invalid. 

Knowledge cannot be certain it is true but scientific method is actually the best method we have yet discovered for separating fact from falsehood (unless of course our perceived reality is an illusion in which case fact cannot be reliably separated from falsehood). The scientific method does not support any of your statements about reality although it does support the idea that there is a reality.

We still cannot know what it is and it may be no more than it appears. Any statement beyond existence exists that cannot be demonstrated can be dismissed and even observations backed by evidence may be no more than observations of an illusion.

I lead the way since I have already visited the shop and know were it is.

And we do not know what that is.

I was just adjusting my previous statement with more precise language at your request.

Fine I am not telling you what you mean you told me you meant reality as it is so if reality is uncaring and nearly empty but not technically a void then that is what you mean. It may be more than that but this is a poor hypothesis as we cannot test it.

(Whispering) Grahf senses undead in the coffin shop and we think the bones are in there. Grahf and Luraxt went to talk to the priest and we will meet back at the shop. Don't worry they aren't stupid enough to go in there alone but we should make haste.

The point isn't that reality and illusion are the same and there is no particular reason to believe that they are. My point is that there is no reliable way to test our perceived reality for "realness". 

Yes strictly speaking it isn't a void but that is just semantics and it doesn't change my argument.

I am looking for Snerp at the burgomaster's mansion. Should be easy I'll just look for the he is ussualy at the center of attention.

Yes but what does christ mean in this context and why does being called someth8ng make it necessarily true? Is it just a subjective judgement?

What do you even mean by christ/antichrist? And why would Jesus (providing he was even a historical figure) be either?

Also can you prove that nothing happens without a cause or only that we have not observed such a thing? Also also if nothing can exist without a creator then what created whatever created the universe?

What about causality necessitates a creator? A cause can be literally anything.

What about cause and effect necessitates that the universe was created rather than simply happening?