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Sure let's do your math: approximately if you assign white people 87% of homicide (and this is being generous to you), then they caused 18,000 deaths. If you notice all of your leading deaths deal in the range of hundreds of thousands - 18,000 is not significant enough in order to actually affect any of these numbers.

Furthermore, I never claimed that the rates of homicides were proportional to their population statistics, I am merely stating that they are generally overly represented.

I don't debate here anymore, you know that. Furthermore, you're actual reading of sources are so intellectually dishonest I'm not sure I would want to debate you if I did.

It goes a long way to explain why bastions of power persist for decades and generations uncontested and with zero outrage in dystopias like California, Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, DC, New York.

Eh.. those statistics are definitely being interpreted incorrectly on your part first of all

 Definitely, a lot of crime done by white dudes specifically is let go. And... the bodies? The increasing rate of missing cases reports isn't coming up at all to you is it?

And because hispanic people weren't afforded nearly the same amount of discrimination that black people were - in the education, work, and healthcare bits, totally - but socially? They weren't slaves for hundreds of years, and there weren't jim crow laws on anywhere near the level of black people. False Equivalence.

I still can't believe he projected without skipping a beat that ALL people project.

That's some really deep dysfunction.

This sweeping projection assumes there are zero people alive with nuance or perspective.

It's literally, the entire point of this thread. But ok bro.

I mean no disrespect

It takes a person truly partisan to the bone to declare "X" party "really cares about the people"

Stockholm syndrome politics is the rot of America.

What the Democrat governors did in 2020 with the kids and the elderly to score political power proves without any reasonable doubt that politicians don't give a flying fuck about "protecting the people"

Offering Cuomo and Newsome up after the fact doesn't come close for restitution for the destruction and mayhem they caused in 2020.

So the entire medical industry is “in on it”. Is that correct?

Now you might not believe what they are fighting for is best overall for society, or will have the effects they think it will, but to go from that to them not only being unwilling to lift a finger for you but would rather hurt you? Where does that come from? That’s the kind of  thing that only makes sense if it’s something you can relate to personally. I sure can’t.

You literally stated that you regret getting vaccinated because politicians are pushing people to get vaccinated. If you don’t think basing your own health decisions on a disposition to rebel against politicians “telling you what to do” is childish, I don’t know what to tell you. I base my health decisions on what I believe to be best for me and my family, nothing else.

I think you know my thoughts on that process, though.  I'm all for colonialism.  One need look no further than the current state of sub-Saharan Africa to understand why

I don't know who Biden wanted, if anyone.  But he didn't pick her.  She was picked for him, likely by Pelosi and others in the DNC who are wholly out of touch with reality.  

How do you not find this to be incredibly childish?

Curious, what about the health experts who overwhelmingly agree with everything the “in group” is  doing? Is the proposition that they are doing what they’re doing to help society also equally absurd?

There’sa term for this instinctiveness, it’s called projection.

Yes. The claim is usually that black people (or whatever alleged inferior race) are, on average, genetically predisposed to being inferior. Usually the claim has to do with intelligence and/or a predisposition for criminality. Lets accept those alleged facts as true for purposes of discussing the policy implications. Now combine those alleged facts with the undisputed facts - the observed racial disparities and you then have the question - To what extent are the observed racial disparities caused by innate inferiority as opposed to adverse racial discrimination? It would be reasonable to assume that both factors were contributing. Yet, even if there is racial correlation to a predisposition to some innate inferiority, racial discrimination would still (in most cases) be an injustice that should be mitigated through policy.

So, what's wrong with racial discrimination in the first place? Lets say that you're a sole proprietor and you desire intelligent workers without criminal propensity. To that end, you implement a racially discriminatory policy, that you will not hire black people. What's wrong with it? It's your business. It's your money. Perhaps you should be able to do what you want with your property, at least that's what the libertarians say. Nonetheless, even supposing it is your right, that does not make it right - And it is still wrong, even assuming the fact that being black is correlated with low intelligence and criminal propensity. And why is it wrong? It's wrong because people are worthy of better treatment than products where we may shop according to brand without any further investigation. With power comes responsibility, and it's wrong because it's an unnecessary unfairness that can be easily avoided by minimal inquiry on the employer's part in to the prospective employee's background. For example, filtering out the stupid and criminally inclined may be done simply by adequately interviewing prospective employees and conducting criminal background checks, etc.

In any case, the point I'm trying to get across is that public policy should favor fairness, which would generally be against racial discrimination despite the fact that there may be some innate inferiority that is correlated with race.

I don't think most racial discrimination is even like that. It comes across more as some in-group favoritism thing to me rather than a racial hatred thing. Blacks especially are seen as different. Perhaps it is because they look the most different, and perhaps it is because the American population is bombarded with media indicating that blacks are a different and unique people, separate from the rest of the population. It's unfortunate that so much of that media was made with good intentions. Perhaps if the media presented blacks like Geordi La Forge rather than Will Smith there would be substantially less racial discrimination.

 Even if it is true, the policy implications are negligible and the factual inquiry is therefore moot.

I find this to be such a breathtaking violation of Occam’s razor. Why is it easier to assume such a large swath of our government is doing what they’re doing for sadistic purposes rather than cause they believe it will help protect people?

That’s not relevant to my point. There will always be sick people out there who fit any description one can make up, it’s dishonest to base our entire political discourse around those extremes, which is kind of the point of this thread. The control for the sake of control narrative might have some truth on a very small scale, it’s stupid as a basis for opposing any mainstream position or action taken by the government.

The CDC's statement about children not being a significant vector for the virus is routinely flagged as misinformation from state controlled media.

I restate my case against Franklin, over-policing in poorer areas, where there are more black people, leads to increases in the stats. 

Firstly, this is based.

true, but they use those arms less frequently than any other race, in fact According to the FBI, African-Americans accounted for 55.9% of all homicide offenders in 2019, with whites 41.1%, and "Other" 3.0% in cases where the race was known. [1]

Funny. My marriage license didn't come from a church. Did yours?

The fact is the government licenses marriages, so they should be available to everyone regardless of how dogmatic religious folks feel about it. 

You see, me personally, I view white people as the most dangerous people

None of this refutes the conventional wisdom- that vaccines are not 100% effective; that breakthrough cases in the vaccinated are rare; that vaccinated people get less sick than unvaccinated.  

In our data, the success rate of searches (or the hit rate) is generally lower for Hispanic drivers compared to white drivers; so the outcome test indicates Hispanic drivers face discrimination. For black drivers, search hit rates are typically in line with those of white drivers, indicating an absence of discrimination.

Yes white privilege exists if you are white your chances of getting pulled over without reason are significantly lower. I am white my chances of getting pulled over are significantly lower which is a fact if you would like the study ask.