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The Nordic model should be applied regarding prostitution law

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With 1 vote and 1 point ahead, the winner is ...

Cogito
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The Nordic model simultaneously protects prostituted (trafficked or coerced) victims by:
1) Making it legal to sell sex and this way the vicitms fear no reprisal if they want to report the abuse they experienced to police. This helps to find perpetrators/traffickers and also makes victims less vulnerable to extortion/abuse from policemen as well.
2) Punishes the buyers and this way decreases the willingness to buy prostitutes and as such decreasing the national demand for prostitutes. Ultimately the absolute number of victims trafficked and forced into the prostitution business (as a portion of all prostitutes) is also decreased.

Round 1
Pro
The legal policy to prostitution was always a complex issue, in many countries laws were changing from criminalization, to partly-, or fully decriminalization, tolerance, spatial segregation or even regulation during the centuries and were often reversed after seeing different problems arising from newly adopted policies.
Punishing the client and pimp, while not punishing the prostitute is however a relatively new approach, that provides benefits for fighting criminals and protecting victims of abuse/coerced prostitutes.

As every law, prostitution law has advantages and disadvantages and conflicting interests cannot necessarily be resolved in an equal manner, that is we have to prioritize which values needs the most support when adopting a prostitution policy. Should it support the willing prostitutes, whose wellfare is not depending on the money they receive, the non-criminal third parties, like providers of travelling and location for the business, should it support local residents who complain about the side-effects of prostitution, public health policies against the spread of STIs, the johns (who buy sex), or the abused victims coerced to become prostitutes?

The position of this argument is that the first priority should be the support of abused/coerced prostitutes, and lowering their absolute numbers when deciding over a prostitution law. All other support for other interests are secondary of importance.

Following this logic, how can we best serve the interests of coerced victims and lower their numbers effectively? 1) Prevent their entry and 2) support their exit from prostitution.
1) Punishing the demand, can decrease the total number of prostitutes required in the sector and thus decrease the absolute number of those prostitutes who are coerced as well. This hurts the interest of high-end prostitutes, pimps and johns but serves the interest of coerced victims. If we follow the priority, we value this action as beneficial. Direct policy: punish clients.
2) Providing alternatives for prostitutes to exit this business also help coerced victims to find a way out. This hurt the interests of pimps and johns.
Direct policy: cease persecution of prostitutes, to not fear reprisal when reporting their history to authorities, rehabilitation centres, employment options, helping organizations, translations, education etc.
Con
You can have this win. There's only 3k chars and Ramshutu already expressed complete incapacity to grasp how audits and legalised business procedures would inevitable work for prostitution.

The only case I can and will make is for legalised prostitution and I'm not going to put in all that effort for Ramshutu to shit on it. This is unrated anyway, I didn't quite realise that when I accepted and also realised that Ramshutu is the only judge just after I clicked accept.
Round 2
Pro
Please refrain from swearing/profanity to keep debates civilized and objective.
So if I understand correctly, you have a problem with the person of the judge and thus you forfeit your side in the debate. What are your concerns with @Ramshutu, can you validate/support your concerns? Do you have a suggestion for a judge who is objective and is attracted to spend time on this topic?
Con

Feel free to see here how much effort I put into making a case for Nordic Model being toxic and the worse option if you want to liberate prostitutes. It's true, I could have used 32 sources and gone into an essay-like detail every Round but I opted for that instead. Ramshutu found issue with me not exploring every detail. 

On the other hand, look here:


Do you see Ramshutu's vote? That's what happens if I put legit effort in.
Round 3
Pro
I don't see why those votes would be considered biased in either cases. In the Nordic model debate, both sides used unclear goals, didnt started the debate on a common value, used various sources, interpretations, but ultimately your opponent had more tangible evidence in the form of statistics. In the religious debate he gave very similar evaluation as the other voters.
Besides, can you suggest an expert to judge on our topic?
Con
Forfeited
Round 4
Pro
Forfeited
Con
Don't care
Round 5
Pro
Forfeited
Con
Forfeited