Telescopes that can look into the past is the best way to teach History

Huzzah!

Fair enough. You can now vote.

Looks like I read it but never clicked "accept"

hmmmm, well thanks for pointing it out. I need to revisit it then

It says you have not yet read the site's code of conduct. There is a medal you receive when you read and accept the code of conduct.

I have done both I believe

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>Reported Vote: christopher_best // Mod action:

>Points Awarded: Tie

>Reason for Decision: Let's be diplomatic and make this a tie. I found both the arguments "another round, another forfeit" and "forfeited" rather convincing and brilliant.

>Reason for Mod Action: This vote is not eligible to vote. In order to vote, an account must: (1) Read the site’s COC AND have completed 2 non-troll/non-FF debate OR have 100 forum posts.
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Vote Reported: Ramshutu // Mod Decision: Removed

NOTE: FF debates are not moderated unless the voter votes for the forfeiting side. Since Ramshutu voted for the forfeiting side, his vote is removed.

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Wait why are there these rules to begin with?

oromagi

Criterion Con Tie Pro Points
Winner ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason: I really would have liked to have seen Whiteflame's argument. I imagine it might have been super good. Alas, the full forfeit. That's core pond duct!

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>Reported Vote: PressF4Respect// Mod action: [Removed]
>Points Awarded: Tie

>Reason for Decision: "Neither side made argument

Reason for Mod Action>This vote is not eligible to vote. In order to vote, an account must: (1) Read the site’s COC AND have completed 2 non-troll/non-FF debate OR have 100 forum posts.

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Well, that’s a shame. I’d still like to have this debate. If you comment here or message me in the next 48 hours, we can try to do a 2 round debate. Otherwise, I’ll consider this a full forfeit and try to get the debate deleted - not a fan of winning debates that way.

Just a heads up, about 30 hr. left.

I'll publish my argument later when I have time.

Great. Challenge accepted.

Done

Checking in again to see if you can change the time to post arguments.

Haven't seen the timeframe for arguments change yet. I can usually do 2 days, but I'd like to have a week just in case something goes awry.

Alright then.

I really don't know what you're hedging against by having that large of a character limit. Honestly, on a debate like this where the subject of the debate isn't something we can deeply research or source, I'd be amazed if either of us managed to reach 10k characters, much less 30k. However, I would like to ensure that this debate is easily readable so that we can get more voters, as Ragnar suggests, and I think allowing for the possibility that one such round occurs is detrimental to that goal.

If course, we are already using telescopes that can look into the past as the best way to learn about astronomy.

How exactly is 30,000 a precaution? A precaution against what?

I don't follow.

For character limits I suggest pre-write your R1, then triple the length. To attract voters, 5k is the longest you'd want to go, but 10k gives a strong safety net.