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Topic
#13

Resolved: It is probable that God exists

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
9
Better sources
6
6
Better legibility
3
3
Better conduct
3
3

After 3 votes and with 9 points ahead, the winner is...

Lunatic
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
Two months
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
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1523
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Description

Resolved: It is probable that God exists.

Rounds:

1. Opening arguments only
2. Rebuttals only
3. Defense
4. Closing argument

For the purposes of this debate, the term "God" will be defined broadly as to include the general attributes (ie: omnipotence, omniscience) commonly associated with Judeo-Christian monotheism. That is to say, I am not referring to any specific deity. Hence doctrines such as the incarnation and Trinity are irrelvant to this debate. "Probable" will be defined as being more likely than not.

The time limit between replies is 72 hours. If special circumstances arise, one side may ask the other to wait out his or her remaining time. If one side explicitly concedes or violates any of these terms, then all seven points will be awarded to the other. By accepting this challenge, you agree to these terms.

The burden of proof is shared. It is incumbent on me to show that God's existence is probable, and it is incumbent on my opponent to show that God's existence is not probable. It is thus not enough to simply refute my arguments. My opponent must also erect his own case against the probability of God's existence.

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@Lunatic

Lunatic: "We are all just a bunch of neck beards on the internet. Our opinions don't mean anything.

My stance on God should be irrelevant to your belief."

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Unless, of course, you care about the truth of an issue and/or someone is misaligning an issue and/or creating a mindset that encourages others to do the same.

If you do not believe truth is worth fighting for or discussing there is no point in debating, IMO, other than to stoke your ego if you win. So what is the motive of the debate?

The question of God's existence is of paramount importance as it pertains to the truth.

If God is, you are answerable to Him.

If God is not, who cares about truth or ultimately anything? Ultimately it is all meaningless. Do your pleasure or whatever you like in as much as you can get away with it. It doesn't matter. Why live as though it does and be inconsistent? If God does not exist why should I act as you want me to, as long as I have the power to resist your preferences?

We are all just a bunch of neck beards on the internet. Our opinions don't mean anything. My stance on God should be irrelevant to your belief.

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@Lunatic
@David

As a believer in God to another believer, it is disappointing to me once again that you commit to a debate and then you do not follow through with it, giving someone a cheap win and discrediting Christianity/Judaism as a logical and reasonable viewpoint.

The bible contradicts it's self a lot.

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@Ramshutu

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>Reported vote: Ramshutu // Moderator action: NOT removed<

3 points to Con (arguments). Reasons for voting decision: Pro conceded.

[*Reason for non-removal*] Conceded debates are not moderated unless the voter awards points to the side that concedes. Since this voter awards points to the side that did not concede, awarding arguments points is acceptable.
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@bsh1

I asked for my vote to get deleted when vote moderation was announced, as it was a counter-vote...

Would appreciate if you could delete it.

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@bsh1

Not just acceptable, perfectly acceptable. :)

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@Tejretics

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>Reported Vote: Tejretics // Mod action: Not Removed

>Points Awarded: 3 points to Con for arguments

>Reason for Decision: Counter JCEurovision96's argument point; not bothering to counter conduct and spelling/grammar, since Pro concedes anyway.

>Reason for Mod Action: Counter votebombs are typically not permitted. However, in the case of a conceded debate, per the site voting policy, "conceded debates and are not moderated unless a voter votes for the side that concedes." Therefore, this vote is acceptable, because it does not vote for the conceding side (Pro).
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@RationalMadman

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>Reported Vote: RationalMadman // Mod action: Not Removed

>Points Awarded: 3 points to Con for arguments

>Reason for Decision: Pro gives up willingly.

>Reason for Mod Action: Awarding argument points on the basis of a concession is perfectly acceptable.
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@blamonkey

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>Reported Vote: blamonkey // Mod action: Not Removed

>Points Awarded: 3 points to Con for arguments

>Reason for Decision: Virtuoso conceded the debate

>Reason for Mod Action: Awarding argument points on the basis of a concession is perfectly acceptable.
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@Tejretics

No it hasn’t. I can leave your vote up because I forfeited and you voted against me. No reason to remove it.

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@David

Has a system of vote reports been set up yet?

Also, please remove my vote, as it was a counter.

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>Reported vote: JCEuroVision96 // Mod action: Removed<

3 points awarded. Reasons for voting decision: Pro made very clear views on the existence of God, while Con dodges his attack.

[*Reason for removal*] JCEuroVision96 voted for the forfeiting side.
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@JCEurovision96

Did you even read the debate? I conceded as I didn’t have time. @Admin please remove JC’s vote.

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@RationalMadman

What about the Muslim one?

God is real but it's not the J-C one.