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1294
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debates
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Topic

Standard of living and quality of life are different things

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All stages have been completed. The voting points distribution and the result are presented below.

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0
Sources points
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2
Spelling and grammar points
2
2
Conduct points
2
2

With 2 votes and 8 points ahead, the winner is ...

billbatard
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Standard of living deals with the amount of money one has, quality of life is how well you can live and enjoy what you have, it can be a lot less but if you do more with it, money doesn't really matter

Round 1
Pro
Resolved a nation can have a significantly lower standard of living and yet have a significantly higher quality of life, you can live better with less stuff, proof can be seen when comparing Canada to the USA , Americans are wealthier than Canada by some margin, but Canadians live longer are better educated  and safer..https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings
Con
Thank you for respoonding


Let's define standard of living and quality of life. You seem to think that standard of living is all about wealth. According to Wikipedia (sorry, the only reliable source I could find) the standard of living is

level of wealth, comfort, material goods, and necessities available to a certain socioeconomic class in a certain geographic area, usually a country

Quality of life is defined by Britannica as:

, the degree to which an individual is healthy, comfortable, and able to participate in or enjoy life events. The term quality of life is inherently ambiguous, as it can refer both to the experience an individual has of his or her own life and to the living conditions in which individuals find themselves. Hence, quality of life is highly subjective


You can obviously see that comfort is the factor in both, therefore they are similar in some ways. You said they were entirely different. 



Also they both have the letter I.
Round 2
Pro
In those definitions you see clearly and i am talking to the voters here standard of living deals with what you have, and quality of life is about how much you enjoy what you have, and benefit from it, you can have a lower standard of living and a much higher qualty of life  
#1 in Quality of Life Rankings
No Change in Rank from 2018


READ MORE 
Canada takes up about two-fifths of the North American continent, making it the second-largest country in the world after Russia. The country is sparsely populated, with most of its 35.5 million residents living within 125 miles of the U.S. border. Canada’s expansive wilderness to the north plays a large role in Canadian identity, as does the country’s reputation of welcoming immigrants.
GDP
$1.7 trillion
POPULATION
36.7 million
GDP PER CAPITA, PPP
$48,390


#17 in Quality of Life Rankings
No Change in Rank from 2018


READ MORE 
The United States of America is a North American nation that is the world’s most dominant economic and military power. Likewise, its cultural imprint spans the world, led in large part by its popular culture expressed in music, movies and television. In 2016 the country elected Donald Trump president. Trump's rhetoric and stances on issues including immigration and foreign trade have raised questions around the world, including from the country’s closest allies, about the nation’s future course on the global stage.
GDP
$19.4 trillion
POPULATION
325.7 million

Con
I don't think you understand. You said that standard of living and quality of life were different things. You made it clear that it was completely different. Due to your lack of definitions, I added them.  By looking at definition you can see that there is in fact one commonality which is comfort. COMFORT is a variable in both things. 

I know that you can have a bad quality of life but a good standard of living, but the problem is, we are not arguing about that, WE ARE DEBATING ABOUT IF THEY'RE DIFFERENT OR NOT. This is an easy win for me.




You never made it clear in any of the debate rules that I couldn't compare letters either, you can clearly see that they both have the letter "I".



Voters, yes I am trolling a little, but trolling within the rules. billbatard never made specific rules guiding how I can see them as similar. 
Round 3
Pro
the fact that your standard of living can be much lower and at the same time your quality of life higher? proves i am right, and i have posted proof of that by comparing standard of living and quality of life comparisons for the usa and Canada
Con
Is it not a fact that they have the same letter and THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME COMFORT FACTOR in their definitions. It's quite rude that you're ignoring me. Yes, there is differences, but there are also similarities. 



Voters:

Arguments:
Pro failed to refute any of the arguments at hand, only using his arguments, to effectively do nothing.

Sources: Both of us have sufficient sources

Conduct: Good conduct, I guess.

Grammar: Pro had pretty bad grammar.
Round 4
Pro
All i have to do is provide and example of one nation that has a lower standard of living and yet a higher quality of life, and i did that...goes back to listening to depeche mode
Con
I stated that they are not completely similar. ALL I HAVE TO DO is provide a similarity. 


also S&G
Round 5
Pro
no you dont you have to prove they are exactly the same and you cant  i win
Con
If I have to prove they're exactly the same, then you have to prove they are not exactly the same. You didn't make anything clear in your rules, besides your arguments. Thank you for the debate, I get conduct, tie everything else.