The moon does take 27.3 to revolve around the earth and is 27.3 compared to the size of earth. the other 27.3 in other things count to. Will also talk about 7.
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Con dismissed my articles because he did his own math. Cons math is unreliable. I procrastinated on doing this debate again. I was stupid and thought oral was not mouth. Plus i wanted to debate Theatheist but he is not here so and he just repeated you and just repeated your number over and over again.
The article i will be used was originally posted to janesix all credit goes to her. I actually wanted her to do this debate but she disappeared
Add to the fact the moon takes 27.3 days to orbit Earth and just so happens to be 27.3% the comparitive size of the earth!! YES, THAT'S RIGHT. READ IT AGAIN MORONS. I mean...wake up. The earth has 365/366 days to orbit the sun and yet it is 366% larger than our moon! I MEAN.....WTF"
- The ratio of Earth’s diameter to Moon’s diameter is 0.273. (The moon is 27.3 % the size of the Earth).
- Comparing a square’s perimeter to a circle having an equal circumference, the circle’s diameter is 27.3% longer than the edge of the square. (easier to visualize in the illustration).
- Inscribe a circle inside a square. The four corners make up 27.32% of the total area.
- This is reached through the formula: (4 – pi) / pi = 0.2732
- The relationship of the Great Pyramid’s height to half its base is 1.273:1 (or 4:π) and thus ‘squares the circle’.
- -273.2 degrees Celsius is the temperature of Absolute Zero.
- 27.32 is the freezing point of water on Kelvin scale (K).
- Absolute zero of water is 273.2% colder than the temperature it takes to boil.
- 273 days = average length of pregnancy (10 sidereal months).
- 27.3 days = human menstrual cycle.
- 27.32 earth days is the sidereal period of the moon (moon completes one full rotation, one ‘moonth’).
- 1/273.2 per C is the expansion/reduction of gas (Gasses expand by 1/273 of their volume with every degree on the Celsius/centigrade scale).
- Sunspots revolve about the Sun’s surface in 27.3 days.
- Water changes phase at 273°K.
- 273 days from the summer solstice to the vernal equinox.
- 2,730,000 is the circumference of the Sun in miles.
- The triple point of water is defined to take place at 273.16 K.
- The Cosmic Background Radiation is 2.73 K.
- The Earth and Moon orbital periods are reciprocals. 1/27.32 = 0.0366 (366 days in a sidereal year) (1/366 =.002732) 27.32 days in one ‘moonth’.
- 273 m/s2 = acceleration of the Sun.
- .273 cm/s2 = acceleration of the moon along its path around the Earth.
Pi-Pyramid is constructed using a Circle with the same circumference as the sum of all four sides of it’s Square base, the circle is then interpolated as its Height, which is 4/Pi (1.27324…)
Amongst so many others the Great Pyramid repeats the all important number 27.3, a kingly number amongst the most noblest of numbers. Too many ancient sites to mention encode the number 27.3 through their dimensions. They are catalogued throughout my series, An Ancient Legacy:
3) Pi-Pyramid is constructed using a Circle with the same circumference as the sum of all four sides of it’s Square base, the circle is then interpolated as its Height, which is 4/Pi (1.27324…)
is 27.3 percent, and the orbit of the Moon takes 27.3 days. Sidereal rotation period 27.321582 d (synchronous). 27.3 days is also the average rotation period of a sunspot. Great Pyramid has Base to Height ratio 440/280 = 11/7 = 1.5714285 which is almost perfect approximation of 1/2 Pi: 3.142857.
Amongst so many others the Great Pyramid repeats the all important number 27.3, a kingly number amongst the most noblest of numbers. Too many ancient sites to mention encode the number 27.3 through their dimensions. They are catalogued throughout my series, An Ancient Legacy:
Asteroid belt to sun is 273AU
mercury to venus is 273 AU
Then Venus to earth is 273 AU
- For clarity, let's note that PRO is not citing the good information found in the EarthSky website which refutes PRO's argument fairly effectively. PRO is citing a comment posted to the bottom of the article 7 years ago by username "Moonatic" who claims that the moon is inhabited and actively observing us. Moonatic's evidence is personal telepathic reconnaissance. [2]
- Moonatic and PRO seem not to have read the article that Moonatic is commenting about because that article soundly notes:
No one knows the odds, because no one knows how many planets and moons there are in space. Astronomers have discovered 893 planets in distant solar systems so far (as of June 21, 2013), and we don’t know much about their moons.By the way, although it’s fascinating that they are so similar, the sun and moon aren’t always the same size as seen from Earth. In fact, the moon and sun are rarely exactly the same size. The moon’s distance from Earth varies slightly over the course of a single month. So the moon’s apparent size in our sky is always changing.
The ratio of Earth’s diameter to Moon’s diameter is 0.273.
(The moon is 27.3 % the size of the Earth).
"What about surface area? The surface area of the Moon is 37.9 million square kilometers. That sounds like a lot, but it’s actually smaller than the continent of Asia, which is only 44.4 million square km. The surface ares of the whole Earth is 510 million square km, so the area of the Moon compared to Earth is only 7.4%.How about volume? The volume of the Moon is 21.9 billion cubic km. Again, that sounds like a huge number, but the volume of the Earth is more like 1 trillion cubic kilometers. So the volume of the Moon is only 2% compared to the volume of the Earth.Finally, let’s take a look at mass. The mass of the Moon is 7.347 x 1022 kg. But the Earth is much more massive. The mass of the Earth is 5.97x 1024 kg. This means that the mass of the Moon is only 1.2% of the mass of the Earth. You would need 81 objects with the mass of the Moon to match the mass of the Earth.The average diameter of the reference spheroid is 12,742 kilometres? [4]
Inscribe a circle inside a square. The four corners make up 27.32% of the total area. This is reached through the formula: (4 – pi) / pi = 0.2732
- We can be certain PRO's formula is wrong because it contains no variable
- The diameter of this circle will be equal to the side of the square. So, area of this circle: Ratio of the square to the circle inscribed in it: x(squared): = 4:
- so if the side of square which is also the diameter of the circle is 5, the area of the square is 25 and the area of the circle is 19.625. 25 - 19.625= 5.375
- 5.375 is 21.5% of 25
- 4 - [pi] = .86. .86/4=0.215 21.5% again. The area of a square minus the area of the circle circumscribed by that square is 21.5% of the square's total area, not 27.32% as asserted by PRO.
- Here's another example: https://sciencing.com/area-part-square-circle-middle-8166634.html
- PRO's formula and assertion are false.
The relationship of the Great Pyramid’s height to half its base is 1.273:1 (or 4:π) and thus ‘squares the circle’
- Pyramid of Giza's height=138.8 m
- Pyramid of Giza's base = 230.34/2 =115.17 [6]
- height to base is 138.8/115.17= 1.205:1 (or 3.78:π)
- what circle is Giza squaring?en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyramid_of_Giza
-273.2 degrees Celsius is the temperature of Absolute Zero27.32 is the freezing point of water on Kelvin scale (K)Absolute zero of water is 273.2% colder than the temperature it takes to boil.The triple point of water is defined to take place at 273.16 K.1/273.2 per C is the expansion/reduction of gas (Gasses expand by 1/273 of their volume with every degree on the Celsius/centigrade scale).Water changes phase at 273°K.
- PRO is rounding up but this is one number that you can't round. -273.15 Celsius is the temperature at which all the particles of a molecule of ideal gas cease movement. At -273.2- the molecule is still vibrating and by definition, not Absolute Zero. [7] So, PRO's second stat is both inaccurately rounded but also suffers from a misplaced decimal point. The last four data points are just different ways of expressing the same fact in scale (Kelvin).
273 days = average length of pregnancy (10 sidereal months).
- This is inaccurate. Wikipedia advises:
27.3 days = human menstrual cycle.
- There are no decimal points in the menstrual cycle:
The menstrual cycle, which is counted from the first day of one period to the first day of the next, isn't the same for every woman. Menstrual flow might occur every 21 to 35 days and last two to seven days. [9]
"The typical length of time between the first day of one period and the first day of the next is 21 to 45 days in young women and 21 to 35 days in adults (an average of 28 days." [10]
Sunspots revolve about the Sun’s surface in 27.3 days.
The Sun rotates faster at its equator than at its poles. This differential rotation is caused by convective motion due to heat transport and the Coriolis force due to the Sun's rotation. In a frame of reference defined by the stars, the rotational period is approximately 25.6 days at the equator and 33.5 days at the poles. Viewed from Earth as it orbits the Sun, the apparent rotational period of the Sun at its equator is about 28 days. [11]
273 days from the summer solstice to the vernal equinox.
2,730,000 is the circumference of the Sun in miles.
- No intelligent designer would employ British Imperial units which were historically inexact and variable. The English mile is derived from the distance a team of oxen could plow without resting. Let us assume that any intelligent would measure in meters, derived from the invariable measure of the speed of light.
The Cosmic Background Radiation is 2.73 K.
- PRO is again preferentially rounding numbers that are rendered woefully inaccurate by that rounding.
"The CMB has a thermal black body spectrum at a temperature of 2.72548±0.00057 K."
- PRO's rounded number falls outside of the range of measurement.
The Earth and Moon orbital periods are reciprocals. 1/27.32 = 0.0366 (366 days in a sidereal year) (1/366 =.002732) 27.32 days in one ‘moonth’.
- PRO is defining a day on Earth and calling it a coincidence.
- A Julian year is 86400 seconds or 365.242 days. A sidereal year is 87624 seconds or 365.256 days. Neither should be rounded to 366 which renders PRO's claim of reciprocity less accurate.
273 m/s2 = acceleration of the Sun.
Great Pyramid has Base to Height ratio 440/280 = 11/7 = 1.5714285 which is almost perfect approximation of 1/2 Pi: 3.142857.
- see base, height, ratio assertions all refuted above.
- an almost perfect approximation is a self-cancelling, meaningless descriptor. The number 1 is an almost perfect approximation of the number 2.
Asteroid belt to sun is 273AU
mercury to venus is 273 AUThen Venus to earth is 273 AU
I believe in Pizza-gate.
“Avogadro’s Number” and was expressed as 2.73 x 10^26 molecules per pound, but is now more commonly known as “Avogadro’s Constant” and is expressed as 6.02 x 10^23 molecules per gram.
Universe Today. Space and astronomy news. Tag: The Big Bang. ... These anomalies are regions in the CMB that fall beneath the average background temperature of 2.73 degrees above absolute zero ...
-273.2 degrees Celsius is the temperature of Absolute Zero. 27.32 is the freezing point of water on Kelvin scale (K). Absolute zero of water is 273.2% colder than the temperature it takes to boil. The Cosmic Background Radiation is 2.73 K.
(The moon is 27.3 % the size of the Earth).
- False. PRO needs to define size.
We can be certain PRO's formula is wrong because it contains no variable
1) Phi-Pyramid has a Mid-Base-Side to Apex length of the ‘golden ratio’ of Phi, and a Height equal to the square root of Phi (1.27202…)
2) 14/11-Pyramid has a Height of 14/11 (1.27273…)
3) Pi-Pyramid is constructed using a Circle with the same circumference as the sum of all four sides of it’s Square base, the circle is then interpolated as its Height, which is 4/Pi (1.27324…
The last four data points are just different ways of expressing the same fact in scale (Kelvin).
he major public buildings, cathedrals, mosques as well as Hindu and Buddhist temples keep repeating the ancient temple proportions that include dimensions of 27.3 in key ancient units of measurement. The so called modern foot being an ancient unit of measure, no less but more likely much older than 2500 years old.
Too many ancient sites to mention encode the number 27.3 through their dimensions.
273 days = average length of pregnancy (10 sidereal months).
- This is inaccurate. Wikipedia advises:
The length of the sidereal month is 27.321 days or 27 days
There are no decimal points in the menstrual cycle:
He says the article debunks moonatic but it is the other way around
P1: PRO states human menstrual cycle = 27.3 daysC1: Con counters that human menstrual cycles are notoriously variable but average 28 days.• since menstrual cycles are counted by days with any flow, decimal is not meaningfulP2: PRO argues that the .3 indicates minutes.C2: CON requires evidence from PRO that women typically note the minute their period has ended.
PRO states that the avg human pregnancy lasts 273 daysC1: CON cites wikipedia showing the avg human pregnancy lasts 280 daysP2: PRO explains that he is multiplying lunar cycles by ten and seems unconcerned with the actual length of gestation.C2: CON extends C1
Global Lightning Parameterization from CMIP5 Climate Model Output ... sonal cycle in global lightning activity with a minimum in ... 4 IPSL-CM5A-LR 1.88 3.75 2.73 1 ...
signals waxed and waned on a 27-day cycle
if quantities of a substance are measured in pound-mole (lb-mol), then the Avogadro constant NA is 2.73159734(12)×1026
The mole is the base unit of amount of substance in the International System of Units or System International, defined as containing exactly particles, e.g., atoms, molecules, ions or electrons
- This is because PRO's cited ratio is only true under carefully cherry-picked diameters and not true for most Earth-Moon diameter comparisons.
"The three pyramids of giza were angled with 3 different different prevent angles.One was 27.3"
- PRO tries hide in a cloud of ambiguity by now claiming that one of the three pyramids is referenced but no longer specified.
- PRO needs to define the meaning of "prevent angle," no relevant definition can be found by CON.
- CON extends C1.
- PRO claims 21 examples of 273. In R2, PRO showed that once removed the inaccurate data and duplicate data we have two numbers that are not 273 but do contain those numbers in that sequence: the Moon orbits the Earth every 27.321 and molecules stop moving at -273.16 degrees celsius.
- CON has worked as a Senior Systems Analyst @ Sun Microsystems, HP, and Oracle so I am computer people. I have no idea what PRO means.
- 2.73 whats?
- I suspect PRO means degaussing but that process is essentially magnetic, not software.
- CON has not explained the claim sufficiently to warrant further refutation.
- FIRST SOURCE: So- at one of 17 sites monitored, average 2.73 mm/day precipitation. PRO's number does not even measure a lightning cycle much less give us some clues about what a lightning cycle is. CON is confident that if we measured avg. precipitation at many sites some of those sites would average 2.73 mm/day precipitation- far more sites than would average 2.73 then say 4.20 mm/day. PRO is claiming as proof of God that there's a place that averages 2.73 mm/day rain.
- SECOND SOURCE: Is 27 day cycle, which
- refutes PRO's first source claim and also
- is not 273, is it?
- PRO is apparently unaware of the older senses of cereal:
- A type of grass (such as wheat, rice or oats) cultivated for its edible grains.
- The grains of such a grass.
- Breakfast cereal.
- That is, Queen Elizabeth called 700 grains of wheat one pound.
- That's why Avogadro's Number is anachronistic, irrelevant. Why would God be reflected in an inaccurate measurement?
- PRO forgot about the "7 thing"
- CON begs PRO not to bother..
- no
The diameter of the Earth is 12,742 km, so the Moon's diameter is about 1/4 that of the Earth (27.3% to be exact). Need another comparison? ... This makes it about 1.5 times larger than the Moon ...
Like most objects in the Solar System, the Moon spins on its axis, completing a day in 27.3 Earth days
The ratio of Earth’s diameter to Moon’s diameter is 0.273.
Depends on where you take the measurement.
The diameter of the Moon is 3,474 km. (Diameter of the Moon in miles: 2,159 miles)Need to put this in context? The diameter of the Earth is 12,742 km, so the Moon’s diameter is about 1/4 that of the Earth (27.3% to be exact) From universlatoday
273 days = average length of pregnancy (10 sidereal months).
- This is inaccurate. Wikipedia advises:
The length of the sidereal month is 27.321 days or 27 days
The mole is the base unit of amount of substance in the International System of Units or System International, defined as containing exactly particles, e.g., atoms, molecules, ions or electrons
- This is because PRO's cited ratio is only true under carefully cherry-picked diameters and not true for most Earth-Moon diameter comparisons.
- degaussing
- hardware or
- software.
- PRO claims 21 examples of 273. In R2, PRO showed that once removed the inaccurate data and duplicate data we have two numbers that are not 273 but do contain those numbers in that sequence: the Moon orbits the Earth every 27.321 and molecules stop moving at -273.16 degrees celsius.
- In 1811 the US standard pound and the UK pound were identical by weight.
- CON's argument that the number is anachronistic and inaccurate and therefore ineligible as evidence of intelligent design is not countered by PRO's claim.
For example the ratio of Earth to Moon's equatorial diameter is only .272
The diameter of the Earth is 12,742 km, so the Moon's diameter is about 1/4 that of the Earth (27.3% to be exact). Need another comparison? ... This makes it about 1.5 times larger than the Moon ...
Like most objects in the Solar System, the Moon spins on its axis, completing a day in 27.3 Earth days
- In 1811 the US standard pound and the UK pound were identical by weight.
- CON's
argument that the number is anachronistic and inaccurate and therefore
ineligible as evidence of intelligent design is not countered by PRO's
claim.
erse 1. - Seven women shall take hold of one man. This verse has been well called a "companion picture to Isaiah 3:6, 7."As there, in the evil time of God's judgment, the
"Pro prove that there are 2.73 numbers and that god did it.Con there are no 2.73 numbers. Or there are 2.73 numbers but it has nothing to do with God.Your choice.Proof of god would be intelligent design. This debate is not weather the intelligent design is aliens or something."
-273.2 degrees Celsius is the temperature of Absolute Zero27.32 is the freezing point of water on Kelvin scale (K)Absolute zero of water is 273.2% colder than the temperature it takes to boil.The triple point of water is defined to take place at 273.16 K.1/273.2 per C is the expansion/reduction of gas (Gasses expand by 1/273 of their volume with every degree on the Celsius/centigrade scale).Water changes phase at 273°K.
- the distance from Asteroid belt => Sun = 273AU (actually between 2.2 and 3.2 AU),
- the distance from Mercury => Venus = 273AU (closest at .32AU)
- the distance from Venus => Earth (closest at .28 AU)
The title is not the resolution, that is rather taken from context of what this is a follow up to. As pro agrees in R2 "Pro prove that there are 2.73 numbers and that god did it." Without even getting into what's wrong with this (counting integers up to three on keyboard...), I can't find the evidence that this is GOD. Pro even outright chooses to give equal support to Con's counter case of evil machines or wizards, rather than trying to prove God.
This is skimmed heavily, as the previous fifty or whatever they've had, make me look at the headings for what might be new, and when there's not an obvious God connection I treat it as a foregone conclusion.
For the love of both Baby Jesus and Baby Yoda, please learn how to make testable hypotheses!
Here's a primer for you:
http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=scientific_method
I'm not sure about the debate, but I found this topic quite interesting. These are quite fantastic stats, I think we can all agree on that. Now what this means is a much harder to answer question, perhaps indicating something or another.
Hard to say though,
Regardless I thank both debaters for their time in this,
To Truth!
-logicae
The Earth's equatorial diameter is 12,756 km. [2]
The Moon's equatorial diameter is 3,474 km. [3]
you got these numbers from universal today.
https://www.universetoday.com/15055/diameter-of-earth/
https://www.universetoday.com/19677/diameter-of-the-moon/
Universal today says the moon is 27.3 compared to the size of the earth.It even says 2.73 is an exact number.You accuse me of dropping a bunch of points but you keep ignoring this.It is our job to find your math numbers not mine. I gave everything for my claim
The diameter of the Earth is 12,742 km, so the Moon's diameter is about 1/4 that of the Earth (27.3% to be exact). Need another comparison? ... This makes it about 1.5 times larger than the Moon ...
Like most objects in the Solar System, the Moon spins on its axis, completing a day in 27.3 Earth days
https://www.universetoday.com/19677/diameter-of-the-moon/
God measured
don't you want to go back and fix the 20 or so errors in R1 arguments before producing new erroneous statements?
https://youtu.be/UL1jmJaUkaQ?t=342
“Avogadro’s Number” and was expressed as 2.73 x 10^26 molecules per pound, but is now more commonly known as “Avogadro’s Constant” and is expressed as 6.02 x 10^23 molecules per gram.
http://www.hackingtheuniverse.com/science/history-of-science-and-technology/era-first-industrial/1776-avogadro-bio
[1]]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
[2]https://www.universetoday.com/15055/diameter-of-earth/
[3]https://www.universetoday.com/19677/diameter-of-the-moon/
[4]https://www.universetoday.com/20489/moon-compared-to-earth/
[5]https://sciencing.com/area-part-square-circle-middle-8166634.html
[6]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyramid_of_Giza
[7]https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/absolute_zero.htm
[8]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy
[9]https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/womens-health/in-depth/menstrual-cycle/art-20047186
[10]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cycle
[11]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun
[12]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_gravity
[13]https://theplanets.org/asteroid-belt/
[14]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_unit
https://youtu.be/ERvDMwuwfaU?t=651