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Can America's White Domestic Terrorists Ever Clear Their Violent Image?

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After 3 votes and with 17 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
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As we all are aware of in 2019, the White-Domestic Terrorist is reaping havoc on society. White people, in general, seem to can't suppress their deviant mind-state and the Dark Age behavior has resurfaced at an all-time high. Today, a white supremacist's plan to blow up a synagogue was thwarted by the FBI. A few days ago, a White-Domestic terrorist threw acid in the face of an Hispanic man for no apparent reason.

To make matters worse, Politician Katie Hill of California (a White woman) has resigned for affairs with men/women, fornication with goats & white supremacy tattoo. To add insult to injury, a number of white-female teachers have continued their sexually deviant interactions with underage boys around the country...At this point in time, there is no hope for the White-Domestic Terrorist...Anyone who thinks otherwise can definitely take debate.

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@SirAnonymous

Of course, you found nothing because the (US Dept. of Defense) is not the (US Justice Dept).

Source? ugghhhh

All you have to do is use that "good ole" thing that's known as a search engine. You'll be amazed at what you can find by just typing a few words.

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@mairj23

You are correct; you did say the DoJ and not the DoD. Now, present your evidence that this actually happened.

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@PressF4Respect

Show me exactly where I supposedly said that the US Department of Defense labelled white Americans as terrorists?

I specifically said that the "US Justice Department" labelled white Americans as domestic terrorists...Did I Not??

action speaks louder than words

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@mairj23

I looked it up and found nothing saying that the DoD labeled whites as terrorists.
Also, you are the one presenting the claim. It is absolutely your responsibility to guide us to the source. That is the nature of debate. If and when you give us the source, then take it straight from the DoD itself, not from some conspiracy theorist's website. After all, if they really did what you claim, it should be easy to find.

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@mairj23

You were the one who stated that the US Department of Defense labelled White Americans as terrorists. The burden of proof is on you to prove this using a source, to show that you didn't just make that up.

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@PressF4Respect

You ask for sources? Why are you not using your (((search engine))) to fact check what I've said?

Do you want me to hold your hand and guide you to the source?

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@bmdrocks21

I can't disagree. You are correct about that.

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@mairj23

I agree, it should be administered by doctors. That is the only legal way of going about it. The problem is, people are illegally acquiring and then selling them.

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@mairj23

My questions, which ask about stuff that YOU said, aren’t supposed to be “refuted”, they’re supposed to be answered.

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@bmdrocks21

Exactly, fentanyl is an opioid. Abusing any kind of drug or natural herb can harm you which is why it should be administered by a doctor and not for sale by drug dealers. Even low-dose aspirin can wipe you out if it's abused.

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@PressF4Respect

Unlike your questions, my questions can't be refuted because they're factual.

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@mairj23

It is synthetic opioids like fentanyl that are killing people. Opium is made directly from the poppy plant's latex. The alkaloids in this mixture can kill you through cardiac and respiratory suppression.
https://adf.org.au/drug-facts/opium/

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@mairj23

Answer my questions, and I’ll answer yours

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@bmdrocks21

The point is that you said "people created the painkillers" and I said that people created the chemicals that are in the painkillers.

You're right that the chemicals are a creation of people but those chemicals are causing the mass amount of deaths...not the poppy plant.

Heroin is an illegal opioid drug and it's also made from the poppy plant if you didn't already know. It has also been used for pain relief.

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@PressF4Respect

Stop Da Madness...I specifically said (white-Domestic terrorism).

Who's shooting up schools on a consistent basis? Who's shooting up festivals? Who's shooting random people that are unarmed? Who's walking into random stores & shooting up people? Who's plotting to blow up synagogues?

How is that stereotyping when one group of people is committing the same terroristic crimes over and over and over?

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@mairj23

"You would have to speak to the US Justice Dept. because they've labelled white Americans as Domestic Terrorists."
Can you show me any sources pertaining to this?

"As the "good book" says,"
What is this "good book" you are talking about? Please clarify.

"people are judged as a nation, not individually."
This is what is known as national stereotyping, and it leads to gross oversimplifications of large groups of people. What country someone lives in is not at all representative of their character, nor should it ever be taken into account when finding out what someone is like as a person. Also, America doesn't contain only white people, so by using a stereotype of Americans, you are putting Caucasians, African-Americans, Latinos, Asians, etc. into the same group.

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@mairj23

That depends. Humans can create compounds by mixing elements. So, we created those and then created the medication. What exactly is your point? Just because one part of the product comes from a plant doesn't mean the whole thing isn't its own creation.

The chemicals are a creation. The poppy plant isn't. When you mix certain quantities of each, you get a new creation. I would argue that heroin is a different product than a pain killer. Wouldn't you? Why is that? Because they created something new by adding to it.

Tea is a different beverage than water. Cheez-its are different than cheese-flavored Pringles.

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@bmdrocks21

Thank You!!!...So did the chemicals naturally create themselves by sprouting from the earth or did humans create the chemicals?

As you just stated verbatim, "the chemicals that (((alter))) the opiates." Lol. You just proved my point without even knowing it.

I'll ask again & hopefully you'll catch your mistake. Is altering a creation or an...….enhancement?? Case Closed

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@PressF4Respect

You would have to speak to the US Justice Dept. because they've labelled white Americans as Domestic Terrorists.

As the "good book" says, people are judged as a nation, not individually.

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@mairj23

I was aware that you cannot patent anything naturally occurring. I never said we invented the plant. I said we created the medication. It is a creation whose purpose is to enhance the natural compounds.

What would be left you ask? The chemicals that alter the opiates. You know, the ones you mentioned earlier in your post.... But I'm sure you already knew that.

That is why these drugs are patented.... because they aren't just the herb.....

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@mairj23

May I ask what percentage of Caucasians are “White Terorists”?

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@bmdrocks21

Altering is an enhancement not a creation. The poppy seeds are altered with (chemicals) to produce opiates because the pharmaceutical industry can't patent a natural herb...…..but I'm sure you already knew this.

Now that we understand the difference between altering & creating, the question below is going to destroy your nonsense.

If the poppy seeds are removed from the opiate's formula then what ingredients do you have left?.....I'll gladly wait.

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@mairj23

According to our patent system, yes, creating and improving(altering) are considered the same thing. They are then considered your intellectual property.

How many lives have been improved from this altering/improving? Someone with terminal illness and broken bones should just walk it off, eh?

You are claiming that these are facts, but that doesn't mean they are facts. Claim: all black people are murdering thugs. Now, since it is just a fact, I don't have to prove it, right? I claimed it is a fact, therefore it must be.

I'lL wAiT.!.!.!

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@bmdrocks21

Lol. Trying to move the goal posts isn't helping your case. Is altering & creating the same thing? And how many hundreds if not thousands of white people have died from "your" altering/improving?...I'll wait

Only claims need statistics, which is why I present facts that are based on evidence that can't be debunked.

By the way, "That hole you're digging is turning into a ditch."

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@mairj23

Altering the opiates to make them more effective and more easily absorbed. I don't see what point you are trying to make here. Improving a natural product into something more useful is creating something. But, I bet you'll double down and spew out more nonsense.

Could you perhaps provide some statistics for you claims? Can I just claim anything I want and tell you that I will wait?

I'll wait.

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@bmdrocks21

Nope, you manufacture opiates & sell them for profit. The main ingredients in opiates come from (opioid poppy seeds) which has been used to treat pain for centuries...So, what have you created?...I'll wait

#1 Meth dealers/addicts: White
#1 Cocaine dealers/addicts: White
#1. Heroin dealers/addicts: White
#1 Drug traffickers: White/Hispanic……...As I said before, Class Dismissed.

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@mairj23

I know that opioids are painkillers. I said we make them, then apologized for the creation of painkillers. Learn to read, please. I simply rephrased it to explain why opioids are a good thing.

So again, not denying that black people are the main drug dealers. I'm a little disappointed, but I am also proud that you accept facts over your feelings now.

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@bmdrocks21

Lol...Hey Einstein, Opioids are actually painkillers but I'm sure you already knew this, am I correct?????????

I singled out meth because the high death rates in Ohio comes from meth/opioid overdoses...Class Dismissed!

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@mairj23

Yes, white people make opioids. I'm sorry we made pain killers.......????

I'm not even sure that your claim about most meth dealers being white is correct due to your lack of sources. I would like to point out that you single out meth. Probably because black people sell more of all the other drugs(and perhaps meth as well, unless you prove otherwise).

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@bmdrocks21

Most meth addicts manufacture their own dope which is a crime & most meth dealers are white which is another crime.

Opioids are manufactured/funded by the pharmaceutical companies & the government.

Now step your game up when you speak to me.

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@mairj23

So, you don't deny that black people commit the over half of all murders now?

Also, I wonder who sold them those drugs ;)

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@bmdrocks21

Well, look at all the crimes from the opioid & meth thugs in the state of Ohio. So many dead bodies to where there is no more freezers to store the bodies.
That's a hell of a utopia if you ask me.

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@mairj23

Yes, the murderous thugs that disproportionately commit crime aren't the real domestic terrorists. Detroit is just a utopia since whitey left, isn't it?

yes when they come to god and the universe and give up on hate

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@Dr.Franklin

Already making irrelevant excuses? Hmmm

"To make matters worse, Politician Katie Hill of California (a White woman) has resigned for affairs with men/women, fornication with goats & white supremacy tattoo. To add insult to injury, a number of white-female teachers have continued their sexually deviant interactions with underage boys around the country...At this point in time, there is no hope for the White-Domestic Terrorist...Anyone who thinks otherwise can definitely take debate."

black divorce rates are much higher.

hes back