THBT: TRUMP is NOT a RELIABLE SOURCE of INFORMATION
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RESOLVED: TRUMP is NOT a RELIABLE SOURCE of INFORMATION
TRUMP is the ex-game show host who is current President of the United States.
RELIABLE is "suitable or fit to be relied on; worthy of dependence or reliance; trustworthy"
SOURCE is "the person, place or thing from which (information) comes or is acquired"
INFORMATION is "that which resolves uncertainty; things that are or can be known about a given topic; communicable knowledge of something"
BURDEN of PROOF
Burden of Proof is shared.
PRO will argue that Trump is not to be trusted as a source of information.
CON will argue that Trump is a trustworthy source of information.
PRO is requesting sincere and friendly engagement on this topic.
No trolls or kritiks, please.
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1. Forfeit=auto loss
2. Sources may be merely linked in debate as long as citations are listed in comments
3. No new args in R3
4. For all relevant terms, individuals should use commonplace understandings that fit within the rational context of this resolution and debate
"I opened up an Apple computer plant.”
"Commentators and fact-checkers have described the rate of his falsehoods as unprecedented in American politics, and they have become a distinctive part of both his business and his political identity. He has a pattern of making controversial statements and subsequently denying having done so. By June 2019 many news organizations had started describing some of Trump's falsehoods as lies, and that he has repeated some falsehoods so many times that he has effectively engaged in disinformation."
- Richard Nixon does not require a special Wikipedia category regarding his lies, in spite of picking up nicknames like "Tricky Dick" for the frequency of his falsehoods. Vladimir Putin, KGB Uber-Oligarch and puppeteer of potentates does not rate a "Veracity of " subheading.
"[A] recent study of the lies 1,000 U. S. adults told in the previous 24 hours found that people told an average of 1.65 lies per day; the authors noted that 60 percent of the participants said they told no lies at all, while the top 5 percent of liars told nearly half of all the falsehoods in the study. The most prolific liar among the students told an average of 6.6 lies a day. The biggest liar in the community sample told 4.3 lies in an average day."
"One category of lies was so small that when we reported the results, we just tucked them into a footnote. Those were cruel lies, told to hurt or disparage others. Just 0.8 percent of the lies told by the college students and 2.4 percent of the lies told by the community members were mean-spirited....The most stunning way Trump's lies differed from our participants', though, was in their cruelty. An astonishing 50 percent of Trump's lies were hurtful or disparaging. "
"Such a phony hurricane report by lightweight reporter
I will build a great, great wall
I build buildings that are 94 stories tall
My hands – are they small?
I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks
I remained strong for Tiger Woods during his difficult period
Oprah, I love Oprah. Oprah would always be my first choice
Kanye West – I love him
I think Eminem is fantastic, and most people think I wouldn’t like Eminem
And did you know my name is in more black songs than any other name in hip-hop?
You are the racist, not I
Tom Brady loves me
The people of New York, they love me
Upstate New York, I’m like the most popular person that’s ever lived
The bikers love me
You know who loves me? The Tea Party, the evangelicals
My children could not love me more if I spent fifteen times more time with them
The vets love me
The African Americans love me
The Asians love me
Many Hispanics love me
Society loves me
You are going to love me
Or I will spill the beans on your wife!
I’m very proud of my new crystal collection
I have a Gucci store that’s worth more than Romney
I order thousands of televisions a year
Six people do nothing but sort my mail
Sorry haters and losers!
He who has the gold makes the rules
I buy a slightly smaller than large glove
The five fingers represent the five key factors every
entrepreneur dreaming of success must master
Where are the women?
Why is this reporter touching me as I leave news conference?
What is in her hand?
I don’t know which microphones to hold
My hair – should I change it?
I’m sort of like, what am I doing?
I don’t want to be President. I’m 100% sure
so every president wants to be impeached
Dr.Franklin is quite false in such assertion. Most presidents’ (since polling started in 1950s) impeachment polls grow slowly over time. By 2014, Obama had seen roughly 8 serious calls for impeachment and GOP support for impeachment By July 2014 GOP support for Obama’s impeachment was at 68%
you see, Impeachment polls only increase when a republican president is swore in
The poll states 39% of all Americans- including GOP. So, in 2007, Democrats controlled the House and Senate and enough popular support to credibly begin impeachment proceedings and yet the Democrats refrained. Certainly, Bush merited impeachment for manufacturing evidence to justify the re-invasion of Iraq, for falsely reporting that Iraq was responsible for 9/11, for failing to ask Congress to declare war, for falsifying US budget by leaving out trillions in war expenditures, for authorizing the kidnap and torture of many individuals without benefit of trial or even habeus corpus, for authorizing spying on US citizens phone lines and emails without getting a warrant, etc., etc.
According to FiveThirtyEight, popular support for Trump's impeachment stood at 39.9%, the day Trump withheld $400 million in Congressionally approved spending until Ukraine manufactured false accusations against Trump's leading opponent in the 2020 election. Trump's own public account of the the July 25 phone call is certainly sufficiently damning to convict Trump of bribery, misuse of taxpayer funds, collusion with foreign nationals to corrupt the 2020 US Election, illegal use of security clearances to conceal evidence of a crime, etc.
Personally, I think Trump merited impeachment more than any other president once it became clear that Trump knew that Mike Flynn was a secret agent on Russian and Turkish payrolls before Trump gave Flynn the job of top US spy and covered up for that Russian spy by firing the acting Atty Gen Sally Yates- 3 to 4 weeks into his administration. I still can't understand why any American prioritizing US interests would not remove any executive for having so profoundly compromised National Security and have concluded that Trump supporters do not consider the preservation of the US a worthwhile endeavor.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/top_stories/39_favor_impeaching_bush `-`-`--`and that's just from 1000
Most people wanted impeachment of Trump before ukrainegate, which is still BS
The claim is that the Democratic Party has tried to impeach every GOP president since Eisenhower. The claim is 100% false. The only time before Trump that the Democratic Party supported impeachment was Nixon but since the GOP also supported impeachment would not be fair to represent that as Democratic Party only. Dr.Franklin mistakes some Democratic congresspeople for the Democratic Party and by that mistake arrives at another false conclusion.
I never claimed that it was the absolute truth but shit like this is ridiculous
If it was 5 out of the 6, then it should be mostly true
Dr.Franklin: WashPo,NYPost complete liars, International Creation Ministries absolute truth.
complete joke, these fact checks are complete liars, every one of these claims are true,bloating, or satire
I think he was joking.
Personal attacks need not be singular. By conflating liberal with retard you are essentially calling each and every liberal a retard. Rather then attacking their veliefs, you are personally attacking a large group of people, and thus commiting an ad hominem.
Its also dismissive of people not based on arguments, thus intellectually dishonest and an example of some pathetic conduct.
ORO's Sandcastle Status:
“‘LIBTARD’ is a portmanteau of liberal and retard, conflating liberal ideology with developmental disability. Of course, dropping ad homs while advocating rational discourse is fairly obvious contradiction. PressF injects emotion into his claim in a clause dependent on the very sentence where he pretends to reason. I call PressF's claim self-disproved.”
Ad Homs refer to attacks made on a particular person’s character. As I have not made attacks against any particular person, by definition, it does not qualify as an ad hom.
Take a seat
Listen to the beat and
"Make it one week and I’ll be down"
Done. Down indeed.
"I make my arguments based on IMPERATIVE FACTS and not LIBTARDED FEELINGS.
"LIBTARD" is a portmanteau of liberal and retard, conflating liberal ideology with developmental disability. Of course, dropping ad homs while advocating rational discourse is fairly obvious contradiction. PressF injects emotion into his claim in a clause dependent on the very sentence where he pretends to reason. I call PressF's claim self-disproved.
Make it one week and I’ll be down
Well I’M not MOST DEBATERS.
I make my arguments based on IMPERATIVE FACTS and not LIBTARDED FEELINGS.
I imagine most debaters have well formulated opinions on this topic & need little time for research.
Two days for argument?
-mah bootiful poem
No debate in school. I learned "house" language on DDO.
Where'd you learn what TH means?
Did you used to debate at school?