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The evidence clearly points to that god put medicine in plants for all diseases.But since we have not discovered all the medical properties in plants. I have to change the burden of proof a bit.Let start the new year right. My burden of proof is my believe that god put medicine in plants for every disease is likely to be true.

80 percent of the world uses plants as medicine
http://www.medicinehunter.com/about-plant-medicines

70 percent of the new pharmaceuticals made come from plants
https://news.mongabay.com/2007/03/70-of-new-drugs-come-from-mother-nature/

70 percent of modern medicine is the bootlegged version of what god created

Medicine in plants is referenced in our media

in Shrek 1 Fiona ask donkey to find a flower that is blue with red thorns to heal Shrek who has been shot by an arrow. In monster hunter the game.You use plants to heal yourself.In Pokemon you can buy an revival herb to revive your Pokemon from fainted.In Pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of sky. You can use ginseng to power up your Pokemon power.

Though there are some disease we have no cure for.I believe there is a cure for it in plants. we just have not discovered it yet.

For example in the plant chaya is being called gods miracle plant because it is curing people of diseases in foreign lands. We have disease but a plant ends up being a cure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knIZhHdsVik

Round 1
Pro
Thanks for taking. The vastness of medicine found in plants has led me to believe that there are medicine in plants for every single disease that exist.


Disclaimer
I do not want to get sued.This is just for information purposes.There are high levels of lead and mercury with herbs grown today.Grocery store fruits and vegetables do not have this problem and they say 50 percent of  disease Americans die from are preventable  simply by eat your vegetables.This is because of medical properties in vegetables.That is why 50 percent of American  disease are preventable by eating veggies.I do not think herbs can cure limb loss. But if the limb is attached i believe that there is a most likely a herb that can fix the signals from brain to  limb and make the limb mobile again.


A long-term condition affects half of US citizens, yet much of this disease is preventable, according to a report in The Lancet, especially with nationwide and community support.


Preventable disease
We always here about how nearly all our disease that we get in the 21  century are preventable. Heart disease is a preventable death.Diabetes is a preventable death.
The reason why These deaths are considered preventable.Is because if you simply eat your fruits and vegetables you will most likely not get these disease.Because they are medical properties in veggies.

Why we Suffer from  preventable Disease and die in our 40  in the 21st century
The goverment poisons our food with chemicals and pesticides. Average barbie is born with over 200 man made chemicals. 1 out of 59 children our born with autism.

Why they say nearly all disease that we get today are preventable
Most people today will tell you if you stop eating the American diet and eat your vegetables and fruit. YOU Will Most likely not get any disease.
They say nearly half of all cancer is preventable by simply eating your vegetables.The reason why this is the case is because There are medical properties in vegetables and fruit and consuming them helps to stop getting all the disease.That is why they are called preventable disease because you most likely will not get them if you eat your fruits and vegetables

Up to 40 percent of annual deaths from each of five leading US causes are preventable
The reason why they are preventable is by simply eating fruits and vegetables and getting the medical properties that are in your veggies..IT could stop 40 percent of the deaths in the USA.By simply eating your vegetables and getting the medical properties that are in your vegetables.


Broccoli


Has ezemes that seek out and destroy colon cancer


Has Medical properties that help with inflammation

Has amazing heart medical properties and 12 other thing



A long-term condition affects half of US citizens, yet much of this disease is preventable, according to a report in The Lancet, especially with nationwide and community support.

The reason why these disease Is preventable.Is because you can avoid it by simply eating your veggies and enjoying in the veggies  medical properties


BTW
During the first 8 months of ww2. Is called the phoney war.It was where the military  microwaved the other person army with radio waves doing unreparable damage to there bodies.The same thing is being done on the population today with 5g internet. turn that thing off.IT is shredding your DNA.I felt that as important to say.

I will list the vastness of medical properties. in plants



Ferns help with weak blood and toxic blood






Marshmallow roots help with sore throat respiratory problems and kidney problems and 15 different other things.


Kiwi fruits can repair 5 genes
in video 2 they added 4 different berry's with the kiwi it repaired 25 genes when all berrys were consumed together.DNA repair foods



olive oil kills cancer cells but not normal cells
Compare this to chemotherapy which kills both good cells and cancer cells Because it is not intelligent and can not tell the difference between good and bad.Olive oil has artificial intelligence and can tell the difference between good cells and bad cells


myrrh oil
Inhibits Microbial Growth

myrrh oil strengthens the gums and muscles, intestines, and other internal organs, and smoothens the skin. It also strengthens the grip of hair roots, thereby preventing hair loss.
Relieves Cough

Stimulates the Nervous System
Fights Fungal Infections
By myrrh oil being an astringent, it can tighten the gums, intestines, and muscles as well as other internal organs. It stops bleeding by causing the walls of the blood vessels to tighten


Turmeric can reverse brain damage done by schizophrenic medication


Additionally, turmeric’s antioxidants have been found to reverse the effects of damage caused by pharmaceuticals, particularly in the treatment of schizophrenia. Commonly-prescribed antipsychotics often cause involuntary muscle movements and severe behavioral changes. One study found that when treated with curcumin, the effects of the motor disorder tardive dyskinesia were reversed

Turmeric was worth more  then gold in the days of Jesus
note it was the antioxidant in turmeric that was worth so much.That antioxidant curcumin can reverse damage done by schizophrenic medication.How did they know?DId god tell them?

The mayo clinic says that turmeric help with type 2 diabetes obesity cancer bowel disease

My theory is if you randomly eat herbs you will eventually come across a herb that heals the disease that you have.Because there is medical plant for everything



Ginseng
The first recorded use of ginseng is over two thousand years old in Chinese Medicine. Ginseng was recommended for enlightening the mind and increasing wisdom by the famous Chinese Emperor Shen Nung.
Ginseng repairs broken mind and helps with memory

Ginseng can cure problems with sexual problems.

Pharmacognosy (study of medicines from national sources) says: ‘For centuries, people in China have used Ginseng to cure problems with sexual function because it acts on both the reproductive as well as the nervous system to increase libido.
I found this when researching
I've seen the great importance of natural herbs and the wonderful work they have done in people's lives. i read people's testimonies online on how they were cured of herpes, hiv, diabetics etc by Dr. Ogba Kosu herbal medicine, so i decided to contact the doctor because i know nature has the power to heal anything.


So this person was reading how people randomly testimony on how they cured diseases and he contacted the doctor that cured them because he knew plants can cure anything.God put medicine for all disease in plants.If we randomly shove herbs down our throats we would eventually find the cure for whatever disease you may have.
So the basis is the reason why there are herbs for almost any disease we see is because god put medicine in plants for all disease. And if we randomly shove herbs down our throats we would eventually find a herb that would cure us of a disease.
I don't know if i have shared my theory on wild flower honey.
Wildflower honey is honey that comes from wild bee's. Wildflower honey health benefits changes depending on where the bee's get there honey. So if the bee gets nectar from a plant that heals the kidney. The honey that that bee  produces would heal the kidney. If the bee collects honey from a plant that helps with the heart.The honey that bee's produces would help with the heart.So my theory was if you eat enough wildflower honey you would eventually get come across honey that has the health benefits that cure the disease you have.



80 percent of the world uses plants as medicine
70 percent of the new pharmaceuticals made come from plants
70 percent of modern medicine is the bootlegged version of what god created







Though there are some disease we have no cure for.I believe there is a cure for it in plants. we just have not discovered it yet.
For example in the plant chaya is being called gods miracle plant because it is curing people of diseases in foreign lands. We have disease but a plant ends up being a cure

If we have plants that help brain  and kidney.Then it would be logical to assume that  there are plants that help with other parts of the body.If we have plants that help with hay fever.Then it is logical we have plants that help with our other disease.

Con
Thanks crossed, for the interesting topic!

The resolution is as follows: "God put medicine in plants for every single disease that exists."

Couple of things,

1. Since this resolution states that every disease has a plant allocated to it specifically, this resolution implies that we are NOT talking about mere symptom-mitigation (like painkilling herbs). I will thus define "medicine" as a cure for a disease.

2. I do not have to respond to Pro's Gish Galloping in the first round to win. Since the definition of medicine is "cure," and my opponent states in the description that "My burden of proof is my believe that god put medicine in plants for every disease is likely to be true," all I have to do to win is to be able to point out any single disease that would not likely be curable with plants alone.

I will do that, but maybe not in the way you would suspect.

Firstly, let's see how many diseases there are. In the UN's ICD-10, about 72,000 disease codes exist to date. This can serve as a rough estimate of what diseases we have discovered thus far.

Next, let's compare the amount of medical plants we have discovered. In a paper from Royal Botanic Gardens in 2016, they state:
"For this report, we compared plant species across 11 databases and can reveal that over 30,000 plant species have at least one documented use..." an estimated 17,810 plants are used as medicine.

Let's do some math. To have 17,810 plants cure 72,000 diseases, each plant would have to cure over 4 diseases. This is obviously impossibly high. 

But let's be generous and assume that the ratio of plants to medical cures stays constant at 59.36%, and also assume that the generous 374,000 total plant species estimate is accurate.

We would have 222,006 potential medicinal plants. Cool, right? Wrong.

This calculation ignores the number of undiscovered diseases. According to Wired in 2016, 
"After completing one of the most exhaustive microbial studies to date, scientists have revealed that Earth is home to one trillion microbial species, and only one-thousandth of one per cent of them have so far been identified."
Let us assume that the current disease rate in microbes stays at the current 1% rate. You then have about 10 billion undiscovered diseases.

In order for those 222k plants to cure that many diseases, each plant would need to treat about 45,000 diseases each.

Thus, It is a statistical impossibility for there to be a plant cure to every single disease, known or unknown.

Thank you to the voters who have read this far. Onto you, crossed!


Round 2
Pro
Thanks for responding
Scientist believe there is only  300000 plants in the entire world and they have only checked 15 percent of this 300 thousand number.

"it is estimated that of the 300,000 plant species that exist in the
world, only 15% have been evaluated to determine their pharmacological
potential"
15 percent of 300 thousand is over 20 thousand plants.You said there was only 17810 documented medical plants.Which means That almost 100 percent of the plants checked had medical properties.Out of 20k worth of plants.17k had medical properties. If this kind of record of success continue almost all the plants in the world would have medical properties.


Lots  of germs
Cons last argument.There are trillions of germs thus there are trillions of disease.If every single germ was able to produce a disease like the black plaque.Life would not be possible.Not to mention there are good germs to. Right now trillions of germs.With trillions of germs and only 78 thousands disease have popped up with the supposed billions of years of our existence or thousands upon thousands of documented history. The rate of return must be 1 disease for a couple  billions  or even trillions  germs.With the trillions of germs that exist only 78 thousands disease have existed thus far.


We have existed with those trillions of microbes and only 78 thousand disease have popped up.in all of human history.almost all human death is documented. How many billion germs results in a single disease



A Sure fire way to know if there is medical properties in plants
A drug interaction is when a prescription Drug medicine interacts with the medicine in a herb.
How could the herb interact with the prescription drug if there is no medical properties in the herb????
The mere fact the the herb interacts with the prescription drug proves there is medicine in the plant.




I will spend the rest of this space listing off herbs medicine.





  • Sweetflag can cure stuttering and stammering by repairing the brain.it is also good for amnesia



Basil can cure fevers.

and can dissolve kidney stones.So you do not pee rocks but instead dirt.Does this not cure kidney stones if the stones get dissolved???????



Science has proved that this plant can cure a fever, prevent diabetes, fights against cardiovascular diseases, dissolves kidney stones, gets rid of stress, gives a natural glow to your skin and hair, helps in preventing cancer – A single plant that provides solid protection!

Aleo vero aka the plant of immortality

"the plant of immortality” by the Ancient Egyptians, and treasured by  numerous subsequent cultures, aloe vera it still known today for its  many health benefits. For millennia it has been used to treat more than  50 medical conditions, from obesity to burns, dermatitis, ulcers,  asthma, diabetes, acne, and even leprosy."



The plant of immortality health benefits has been proven true thanks to modern science.It treats over 50 medical conditions.


This plant can cure you of gum disease

Dental and gum diseases can also be cured by aloe vera. You can try out this natural remedy at home; put some aloe vera powder on your toothbrush, then brush normally. This will soothe your gums and cure any kind of infection or bruises. Aloe vera juice can also help in keeping the gums healthy



THis plant can repair your body if you have had radio theropy

Heals Side Effects of Radiotherapy
During cancer treatment, radiotherapy is inevitable in most cases. Cancer patients often experience side effects due to radiotherapy.

In the time of Alexander the Great, aloe was also being used as a medicinal treatment. It has been documented that Alexander used aloe juice to heal the wounds of his warriors on the battlefield. He even went as far as having transportable carts of the plant in order to have fresh supplies at the ready during his battle campaigns. It is said that Aristotle convinced Alexander to capture the Island Socotra specifically to gain possession of the aloe groves therein.



17 Proven Benefits & Uses of Aloe Vera{aka the plant of immortality}
  1. Improves Digestion
  2. Boosts Immunity
  3. Inhibits Cancerous Growth
  4. Heals Side Effects of Radiotherapy
  5. Skin Care
  6. Hair Care
  7. Reduces Arthritis Pain
  8. Heals Wounds
  9. Relieves Menstrual Discomfort
  10. Reduces Blood Sugar Level
  11. Prevents Oxidative Stress
  12. Soothes Acid Reflux
  13. Lowers Cholesterol
  14. Improves Cardiovascular Function
  15. Fight Gum Diseases
  16. Preserves Food
  17. Boosts Blood Oxygenation

on this youtube video by a verified youtube account with 686 thousand subscriber.So it is credible. it has 686 thousand subscribers. It is about a herb grower who talks about ten plant that can cure 27 common disease

Here is the ten plants


  • Tulsi 2.
  • Bael 3.
  • Night Jasmine (Ganga Siuli)
  • . Brahmi
  •  Aloe Vera
  • . Kal Megh (Bhui Neem)
  • . Ashoka Tree
  • . Bhringraj .
  • Hadjod
  • . Neem


here are the 27 disease that the ten plant can cure

  1. Cold 
  2. Cough
  3. . Asthma
  4.   Fever .
  5. Immunity Booster 
  6. Gastric Related Disorders
  7. . Diabetes
  8. . Blood Pressure .
  9. IVS
  10. . Constipation
  11. . Preventive against Malaria
  12. . Nerve Related Disorders
  13. . Memory Booster
  14. . Epilepsy
  15. . Blood Purification
  16. . Insomnia
  17. . Anorexia
  18. . Hyper Tension
  19. . Skin Related Disease
  20. . Burns
  21. . Hair Loss 
  22. Intestinal Worms 
  23. Boosts Women Immunity
  24. . Preventive Against Sun Stroke
  25. . Jaundice
  26. . Treating Fracture
  27. . Osteoporosis


haw thorn berries can help heal you if you are having heart failure


Heart failure, which exists in two forms — diastolic and systolic — routinely results in injury or death. Diastolic is when the heart can't fill with blood correctly; systolic is when the heart can't pump blood efficiently

Heart failure is when your heart can not pump blood correctly.Hawthorn berries fix's this so your heart can pump blood correctly



Parsley can cure diabetes


This simple herb used extensively in the dishes has high power to cure diseases. It can cure diabetes, prevents lung diseases and disorders. It controls the high blood pressure and also fights against bone related diseases like Arthritis and Osteoporosis.



Monk fruit

I bought some monk fruit from the health ranger store.
It is a sugar substitute it.It looks like sugar taste like sugar.But it has 0 grams of sugar in it.I bought it out of interest of what medical properties in it.
Apparently this herb can stop insulin Resistance.It seems designed for people with diabetes.So if we find more fruit like this maybe we can cure diabetes.

It seems designed for healing broken insulin receptors

The refined products of monk fruit are 200 to 300 times sweeter than traditional table sugar.1 Although research is ongoing, early in vitro and animal testing indicate that serum glucose levels are actually lowered by consuming this supplement, most likely due to its stimulation of pancreatic insulin secretion.
Bench research studying diabetic mice compared blood glucose levels of untreated animals with those exposed to four weeks of S. grosvenorii supplementation.4 Corresponding reductions in total cholesterol were found as well as an increase in HDL.
A similar but longer trial measured serum glucose levels as was hepatic function, and the antioxidative effect on lipid peroxidation resulted in similar findings.5 While still hypothetical, there is also an assumed simultaneous reduction in cellular insulin resistance.





A similar but longer trial measured serum glucose levels as was hepatic function, and the antioxidative effect on lipid peroxidation resulted in similar findings.5 While still hypothetical, there is also an assumed simultaneous reduction in cellular insulin resistance




Cancer is just a large group of cancer cells.
Cancer is when are cells grow to fast and or does not die when it is suppose to and they form into a tumor..Cancer is a bunch of cancer cells mashed together into s tumor.

apple peels kill cancer cells but not normal cells

Tumeric kills cancer cells but not normal cells
olive oil kills cancer cells but not normal cells.

All cancer is.Is just a bunch of cancer cells bunched together.SO just eat stuff that kills cancer cells till the cancer/tumor dissolves into nothing?Does this not cure cancer?




Here are 33 foods that starve cancer

.Cancer feeds off the body.Many fruits and vegetables can stop  the cancer from feeding off of you.Just eat them till cancer starves to death.to cure yourself
I heard lemons do this on doctor ozz but can not find the episode




Horny goat weed can cure erectile dysfunction.

It regulates a gene which is responsible for releasing an important acid and ya it fix's stuff in that department.



Horny Goat Weed has the benefit, of which sildenafil does not, is the up-regulation of the genes that produce nitric oxide!

if you’re thinking that horny goat weed has a strange name, then you’re on to something. The story behind the name is that it originated when farmers noticed that goats and sheep who ate epimedium herbs became more excited around animals of the opposite sex

Con
Thanks crossed!

I will not respond to the Gish Gallop of examples of herbs given near the end, instead, I will defend my claim that there aren't enough plants to cure every disease.

Response:

15 percent of 300 thousand is over 20 thousand plants.You said there was only 17810 documented medical plants.Which means That almost 100 percent of the plants checked had medical properties.Out of 20k worth of plants.17k had medical properties. If this kind of record of success continue almost all the plants in the world would have medical properties.
Couple of things:

1. The link you gave is broken, unfortunately. Voters: consider that we can not verify Pro's evidence. 

2. Your math is faulty.

15% of 300k is NOT 20 thousand:

300,000 x 0.15 = 45000.

In other words, even if we accepted your numbers as fact, we would still have about 45,000 plants being evaluated. 

17,810/45,000 = 39.5777777778%. 

This means that with your numbers, the percent success rate is even lower than the generous 59.36% rate I gave at a measly 39.58% This places the total number of medical plants at an even lower 118,740 if we use your 300k total. 

Voters: consider that, no matter whose numbers you use, the rate of medical plants in the world is either the rate I gave or lower. 

Cons last argument.There are trillions of germs thus there are trillions of disease.If every single germ was able to produce a disease like the black plaque.Life would not be possible.Not to mention there are good germs to. Right now trillions of germs.With trillions of germs and only 78 thousands disease have popped up with the supposed billions of years of our existence or thousands upon thousands of documented history. The rate of return must be 1 disease for a couple  billions  or even trillions  germs.With the trillions of germs that exist only 78 thousands disease have existed thus far.


We have existed with those trillions of microbes and only 78 thousand disease have popped up.in all of human history.almost all human death is documented. How many billion germs results in a single disease
Objections:

1. Not all diseases need to be as powerful or widespread as the Bubonic Plague was. A new disease may lurk in a single microorganism under a leaf in Ontario. Lack of human contact is a big factor as to why we only have 78k documented so far. This is why deforestation is actually one of the biggest drivers of new disease outbreaks.
In a 2015 study, researchers at Ecohealth Alliance, a New York-based non-profit that tracks infectious diseases globally, and others found that “nearly one in three outbreaks of new and emerging disease[s] are linked to land-use change like deforestation,”
It is very plausible to have about 10 billion undiscovered diseases when you consider how tiny the microbiome is compared to the vast Earth, and how much of the Earth we do not regularly contact.

2. Some diseases may not manifest in people because of modern sanitation and strong immune systems. That does not mean they do not exist, and that does not mean that plants have cures for them. 

3. Even if we made the rate of disease 0.0001% percent instead of the actual 1%, we would get 1,000,000 different diseases. This means Con's rate of 118,740 plants would need to cure about 8.42 diseases each.

Thank you. 



Round 3
Pro
99 percent of all species on earth have gone extinct according to scientist. This is true with biblical flood to.

So in truth, when we say that 99.9999% of species that have ever existed went extinct we really mean two things. Firstly, most 'types' of organism (animal, plant, fungi, whatever) only last a few million years at most before their way of life becomes outmoded as environments shift or competitors appear.


The article post 2 numbers  99 percent and 99.999 percent


300'000 times 99 = 29700000  twenty nine million plus
374'000 times 99 =  37026000 37 million plus
you said
and also assume that the generous 374,000 total plant species estimate is accurate.
300'000 times 99.9999 = 29,999,970

374'000 times 99.9999 = 37,399,962.6

There is no real number's. your first number was


"For this report, we compared plant species across 11 databases and can reveal that over 30,000 plant species have at least one documented use..." an estimated 17,810 plants are used as medicine.

30 thousand plant species and 17810 of them were  medical properties.and according to your post.I made 2 mistake

45000 is 15000 times bigger then 30 thousand.

17810  with 30 thousand plants

17810 divided by 30000 = 0.59366666667

Thus with 45000 there should be

45000 times 0.59366666667  2671 plants

So out of 45000 plants 2671 of them were for medical properties.

out of 30000 plants  17810 of  them had medicine

Apology for bad math




Lots of germs

Just because we have not discovered germs yet.Does not mean that they did not commit to the 78 thousand number.just because we have not discovered the trillions of germs does not mean that they do not contribute to to the 78 thousand germs


Higher the number the worst off you are.

Lets say there is 1 trillion undiscovered germs that means with 1 trillion germs only 78 thousand disease popped up.


Lets say there is 5 trillion germs undiscovered germs out there.With 5 trillion germs only 78 thousand disease have popped up.


Lets say there is ten trillion germs undiscovered out there,With ten trillion germs only 78 thousand germs have popped up.


The numbers get worse for you the higher they are.Not to mention disease created on plumb island.
God is Omnipotent he would create cure for man made disease.
Sanitation has only existed in the last couple decades.If the disease is mild and makes you a little sick.Then it can easily be cured by something like sage.If there are undiscovered disease that are so insignificant that they have not popped up in the last thousand years of documented history.They can easily be cured by something like sage.The more germs he worst off you are.


one percent of the plant species in tropical rainforests have been screened for potential medicinal use.
We may never find out what is in them because they are getting deforest.These medical properties may be lost forever
We have only checked one one percent of the medical properties in the deforest areas and we may never be able to because most of the species are going extinct and we have only checked 1 percent of them.
We have been in contact with 80 percent of the land on this planet. So we have almost all the land on the  surface.Only 78 thousand have popped up.


sage

sage is super effective against dead foetus and candidiasis difficult meneses

sage is highly effective against  adhd.  and amnesia Alzheimer's disease

sage is most effective against sore throats night sweats and typoid

sage is effective against age spots allergy and loin pain



Conclusion
After reading a couple hundred study on plants.
turmeric can reverse damage done by schizophrenic medication.
monk fruit can stop insulin resistant
sweet-flag can cure stuttering and  amnesia
basil can dissolve kidney stone.After reading hundreds of articles like this. I am thoroughly convinced god put medicine in plants for all disease that exist you can not shake my believe in that.



Over to con
Thanks for the good debate
Con
Thanks, crossed!

Final response:

99 percent of all species on earth have gone extinct according to scientist. This is true with biblical flood to.

So in truth, when we say that 99.9999% of species that have ever existed went extinct we really mean two things. Firstly, most 'types' of organism (animal, plant, fungi, whatever) only last a few million years at most before their way of life becomes outmoded as environments shift or competitors appear.


The article post 2 numbers  99 percent and 99.999 percent


300'000 times 99 = 29700000  twenty nine million plus
374'000 times 99 =  37026000 37 million plus

Several objections:

1. I struggle to see the relevance of this information. 

2. It is possible crossed means that at one point there WAS a cure to every disease in plants, but it was just millions of years ago.

There are several problems with this.

Firstly, for every plant species that existed in the past but is now extinct, we likely have billions more species of microorganisms that have come in and out of existence. This means that at whatever point in history you go, the problem of disease still remains.

Secondly, there was never a point in time where all plant species to ever exist existed and they have just been going extinct from there. Plants have been going in and out of existence at different times.

 Voters: What crossed needs to prove is that, right now, there is a plant with a cure for every current disease. 

3. Once again, your math is faulty. The 99 percent number is ALL species on Earth, not just plants. 

There is no real number's. your first number was


"For this report, we compared plant species across 11 databases and can reveal that over 30,000 plant species have at least one documented use..." an estimated 17,810 plants are used as medicine.

30 thousand plant species and 17810 of them were  medical properties.and according to your post.I made 2 mistake

45000 is 15000 times bigger then 30 thousand.

17810  with 30 thousand plants

17810 divided by 30000 = 0.59366666667

Thus with 45000 there should be

45000 times 0.59366666667  2671 plants

So out of 45000 plants 2671 of them were for medical properties.

out of 30000 plants  17810 of  them had medicine

Apology for bad math
I'm having my top deciphering squad try to figure out what you mean. I genuinely am not sure of the relevance of this, and I don't know what you are trying to prove with those calculations. 

Voters: my opponent is unclear, and I have established last round that no matter whose numbers we use, I still win. 

Just because we have not discovered germs yet.Does not mean that they did not commit to the 78 thousand number.just because we have not discovered the trillions of germs does not mean that they do not contribute to to the 78 thousand germs


Higher the number the worst off you are.

Lets say there is 1 trillion undiscovered germs that means with 1 trillion germs only 78 thousand disease popped up.


Lets say there is 5 trillion germs undiscovered germs out there.With 5 trillion germs only 78 thousand disease have popped up.


Lets say there is ten trillion germs undiscovered out there,With ten trillion germs only 78 thousand germs have popped up.

This argument doesn't work for several, previously established reasons:

1. Lack of human contact. A new disease could be hiding under your bed in a SINGLE microorganism.

2. Sanitation keeps many from manifesting. Lack of manifestation does NOT equal a cure.

God is Omnipotent he would create cure for man made disease.
Sanitation has only existed in the last couple decades.If the disease is mild and makes you a little sick.Then it can easily be cured by something like sage.If there are undiscovered disease that are so insignificant that they have not popped up in the last thousand years of documented history.They can easily be cured by something like sage.The more germs he worst off you are.
Objections:

1. Pro cannot assume God exists, nor can he assume there is a cure for everything.

2. Sanitation is well-established. Even if it weren't, it would STILL mean that despite increasing human contact, many diseases can't find entry into human hosts. 

3. Plants being able to moderately alleviate symptoms does not equal a cure.

4. Once again, there are too many diseases for so few plants to handle. Remember: Con's rate of 118,740 plants would need to cure about 8.42 diseases each
  
one percent of the plant species in tropical rainforests have been screened for potential medicinal use.
We may never find out what is in them because they are getting deforest.These medical properties may be lost forever
We have only checked one one percent of the medical properties in the deforest areas and we may never be able to because most of the species are going extinct and we have only checked 1 percent of them.
I have already accounted for these plants in the 374,000 plant estimate. You likely accounted for them in your 300k plant estimate. Either number you choose means there aren't enough plants.

We have been in contact with 80 percent of the land on this planet. So we have almost all the land on the  surface.Only 78 thousand have popped up.
Interesting point, but here's some objections:

1. Your source is Patrick Rannou, whose expertise is "Computer Programming."

2. Your source is a guesstimate. Here is the excerpt:
Say we define “explored” as “every piece of ground within the circle made by maximum line of sight of anybody at any time”. So yeah, merely flying on a plane, you “cover” tons of ground area. According to that definition, I’d expect most of the Earth is explored. easily over 80%.
3. Patrick does make a good point, our definition of "human contact" needs some refining. Seeing something or flying over it does not equal human contact in the sense I am speaking of. By human contact, I mean a human touching a new disease. Considering a new disease is likely present in a single organism somewhere in the jungles of the Amazon, the likelihood of human contact is extremely low. This does not mean that we have a cure for it. 

4. Furthermore, just as many diseases are transmitted through our water as on land. We have only explored 5 percent of our bodies of water.

Thank you.