Instigator / Con
34
1605
rating
17
debates
70.59%
won
Topic

Honor demands that Trump pay Warren 1 million dollars

Status
Finished

All stages have been completed. The voting points distribution and the result are presented below.

Arguments points
15
3
Sources points
10
2
Spelling and grammar points
5
5
Conduct points
4
1

With 5 votes and 23 points ahead, the winner is ...

Death23
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Publication date
Last update date
Category
Politics
Time for argument
Three days
Voting system
Open voting
Voting period
One month
Point system
Four points
Rating mode
Rated
Characters per argument
10,000
Contender / Pro
11
1500
rating
16
debates
40.63%
won
Description
~ 279 / 5,000

Background - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-warren-million-offer-dna/ ----- Full resolution - Honor demands that Trump pay 1 million to Warren's favorite charity upon demand by Warren ----- Rules:- Round 1: Opening cases only (no rebuttals)----- Round 2: Rebuttals only

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--> @David

I understand. The vote was wrong so it should have been deleted.

(It also didn't help me that Pro and Con seemed to have revered roles for this debate. The guy who is usually Conservative was arguing the liberal position and vice versa, which made it hard to keep track of who was on which side.)

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--> @Raltar

Ah I gotcha. I'm sorry. But since you voted for the other person, I still had to delete the vote.

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--> @David

What happened was that I got Pro and Con confused, because this was one of the very first debates I voted on after joining this site.

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--> @Raltar

I'm sorry. But pro didn't cite anything so how could you even give him that point?

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--> @David

I did read the debate and nothing is "obvious" based on my vote. If you want to delete my vote because it violates the rules, fine. I would appreciate you not hurling unsubstantiated false claims.

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--> @Alec

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>Reported Vote: Alec // Mod action: Removed
>Points Awarded: 5 points to con for sources, conduct, and arguments.
>Reason for decision:

Convincing arguments: I got convinced by Con.
Most reliable sources: Con cited. Pro did not.
Better conduct: I think Pro's account got hacked, because I don't think this is like Our Boat is Right. However, I still award Con conduct points. Pro called Con a racist in round 1 and forfeit round 2. I quote from Round 1 what Pro said: "My opponent is wrong, and is biased because doesn't like Warren or her Indian heritage.". What happened Boat Right?

>Reason for Mod Action: Failure to explain all points
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--> @Raltar

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>Reported Vote: Raltar // Mod action: Removed
>Points Awarded: 2 points to pro for sources
>Reason for decision: Pro provided valid sources and used them effectively to prove his point. It seems something went awry in regards to Con's response, and I personally think the larger issue was ignored here..
>Reason for Mod Action: The voter fails to properly explain this point.
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--> @Our_Boat_is_Right

Death23 knows that you didn't want to debate him on this position, and accordingly, your argument was half-assed. Despite this, he made a fairly complete reply. This is respectful because:

1. He's acknowledged your attempt to debate him on a topic despite your reluctance.
2. He's made a high-effort reply in response to a comparatively low-effort argument when he needn't of done so.

Do you have anymore misunderstandings about my original comment?

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Contender
--> @dustryder

yes, of course. How has he respected me? He has not done anything but be a complete deush about it.

Your original comment does not make any sense.

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--> @Our_Boat_is_Right

Honor demands that Trump pay Warren 1 million dollars <-- This is the issue with which you disagree on.

I disagree that Honor demands that Trump pay Warren 1 million dollars <-- This is the specific position that Death23 has given on the issue. You agree with Death23 on this position.

Do you understand the difference between where you have disagreed with the issue and agreed with the specific position?

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Contender
--> @dustryder

It's not an opinion where you disagree-

it's just a fact that I made a mistake misunderstanding his position.

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--> @Our_Boat_is_Right

If you read more carefully, the issue was the subject of the disagreement, not the position of your opponent.

ie "The issue that I disagreed with" vs "The issue that I disagreed with him on"

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Contender
--> @dustryder

I don't disagree, I agree with him. Read more carefully before you type a clever comment.

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--> @Our_Boat_is_Right

You should finish this debate, I will be voting on it...hey Death, I see you're up to your dishonest antics again. Finish the debate Our_boat, just finish it.

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--> @Our_Boat_is_Right

He's respected your attempt to debate on an issue that you disagree with. You could've either chosen to debate in earnest as a personal challenge or ignore it entirely as a protest, but you've decided to half-ass it and mock him for his reply. If you think this makes you look anything other than petty, think again.

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Contender
--> @Death23 @armoredcat

Wow he actually just wasted his time by writing a long rebuttal to something I agree with him on? That's hilarious!

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Contender
--> @Death23

How would you know he posted a comment if you didn't read any of this?

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Instigator

Didn't read. Didn't care.

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I would just let him cancel the debate, @Death23.

You'd save a lot more time for yourself by just moving and doing it again

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Contender
--> @Death23

You are proving it further. You don't care about anything but winning and your own agenda. You only argue feelings, not facts.

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Instigator

Didn't read. Didn't care.

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Contender
--> @Death23

You're literally proving my point..

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Contender
--> @McSloth

Only some liberals, mostly SJW's and Progressive's, but some people, like armoredcat and you, can put up reasoning into debates.

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Instigator

Keep whining.

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--> @Death23 @Our_Boat_is_Right

Come now Boat, I don't think you really believe that. I consider myself a Liberal, and we're not a monolith you know. But back to the problem at hand, any thoughts on possibly debating another issue? He might be down for it if you ask.