Taoism vs Confucianism
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I will be arguing for Taoism, and my opponent will be arguing for Confucianism. Both will be arguing which school of thought is more beneficial to humanity in general.
user2006 wrote1. Taoism focuses more on individuals rather than the whole of humanity, in which no one HAS to serve good to humanity. I know Confucianism encourages it and doesn't force, but Taoism doesn't force at all, it is your choice to do it or not, while Confucianism is like "Do good to humanity, do good to yourself!" Confucianism at some point just sounds like propaganda at its strange parts.
Confucianism, also known as Ruism, is a system of thought and behavior originating in ancient China. Variously described as tradition, a philosophy, a religion, a humanistic or rationalistic religion, a way of governing, or simply a way of life
The Zuo Zhuan generally translated The Zuo Tradition or The Commentary of Zuo, is an ancient Chinese narrative history that is traditionally regarded as a commentary on the ancient Chinese chronicle Spring and Autumn Annals (Chunqiu 春秋). It comprises 30 chapters covering a period from 722 to 468 BC, and focuses mainly on political, diplomatic, and military affairs from that era. The Zuo zhuan is famous for its "relentlessly realistic" style, and recounts many tense and dramatic episodes, such as battles and fights, royal assassinations and murder of concubines, deception and intrigue, excesses, citizens' oppression and insurgences, and appearances of ghosts and cosmic portents
user2006 wrote....2. Taoism inspired Confucianism and even Buddhism.
user2006 wrote...3. Taoism holds general positions on life, while Confucianism holds traditional views that will be outdated, such as that women are inferior, and that children are to obey adults even it means they will be submissive to whatever their parents need.
People who follow this religion believe that doing something with words, thoughts, symbolic actions, etc. can make things in the real world change. That idea is hard to understand. Here is an example: There is an old story that says China was once covered by a flood. The world was saved from the flood by 禹 Yǔ, who had only one leg that worked. Yǔ went to different parts of China in a special order, and he dug ditches to let the flood water go into the ocean. When something very bad happens in the world, a Daoist priest can go to the Daoist temple and act out what Yǔ did, and just doing that will make the world get fixed.
The Great Flood of Gun-Yu was a major flood event in ancient China that allegedly continued for at least two generations, which resulted in great population displacements among other disasters, such as storms and famine. People left their homes to live on the high hills and mounts, or nest on the trees.
According to mythological and historical sources, it is traditionally dated to the third millennium BCE, or about 2300-2200 BC, during the reign of Emperor Yao.
The story of the Great Flood plays a dramatic role in Chinese mythology, and its various versions present a number of examples of the flood myth motif around the world. Flood narratives in Chinese mythology share certain common features, despite being somewhat lacking in internal consistency as well as incorporating various magical transformations and divine or semi-divine interventions like Nüwa.
For example, the flood usually results from natural causes rather than "universal punishment for human sin".
During the course of fighting, surviving, and eventually getting the inundation problems under control, much progress was also made in terms of land management, beast control, and agricultural techniques. These and other developments are integral to the narrative, and exemplify a wider approach to human health and societal well being than emergency management of the flood and its immediate effects.
Wheresoever you go, go with all your heart.It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop.Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated.I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life.Never do to others what you would not like them to do to you.Death and life have their determined appointments; riches and honors depend upon heaven.Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it.Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall.Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.
Confucius 551–479 BC)
Hongmen members worldwide continue to observe certain common traditions: they all stress their patriotic origin; they all revere Guan Yu, a historic Chinese figure who embodies righteousness, patriotism, and loyalty; and they all share certain rituals and traditions such as the concept of brotherhood and a secret handshake.
He was very interested in the ancient history book Zuo zhuan and could fluently recite lines from it.
The philosophy of Confucius, also known as Confucianism, emphasized personal and governmental morality, correctness of social relationships, justice, kindness, and sincerity. His followers competed successfully with many other schools during the Hundred Schools of Thought era only to be suppressed in favor of the Legalists during the Qin dynasty.
He championed strong family loyalty, ancestor veneration, and respect of elders by their children
He espoused the well-known principle "Do not do unto others what you do not want done to yourself", the Golden Rule.